Authorized
Steward
Group 1 user 18
Offline
Posts : 19693
|
|
|
Original Post 2009-May-20, 01:10 PM
|
Watch this performance this is honesty personified an awesome effort. He was fair dinkum 4 wide the entire trip, the jockey could not make up his mind to go forward or back and this bloke still kept coming and won clearly. Obviously the opposition might be questionable but i am willing to say here and now that this is a classic hopeful next season. http://horseracing.bigpond.com/asx/windowsmedia.aspx?TagID=AR473106445618032867
| SO YOU THINK (NZ) |
Bay colt 2006 |
|
High Chaparral Bay 1999 |
Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 |
Northern Dancer Bay 1961 |
Nearctic Brown 1954 |
Nearco Lady Angela |
1935 1944 |
4-r 14-c |
Natalma Bay 1957 |
Native Dancer Almahmoud |
1950 1947 |
5-f 2-d |
Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 |
Bold Reason Bay 1968 |
Hail to Reason Lalun |
1958 1952 |
4-n 19-b |
Special Bay 1969 |
Forli Thong |
1963 1964 |
3-b 5-h |
Kasora Brown 1993 |
Darshaan Brown 1981 |
Shirley Heights Bay 1975 |
Mill Reef Hardiemma |
1968 1969 |
22-d 1-l |
Delsy Brown 1972 |
Abdos Kelty |
1959 1965 |
1-e 13-c |
Kozana Brown 1982 |
Kris Chestnut 1976 |
Sharpen Up Doubly Sure |
1969 1971 |
5-i 2-o |
Koblenza Brown 1966 |
Hugh Lupus Kalimara |
1952 1960 |
19> 1-n |
Triassic Bay 1990 |
Tights Bay 1981 |
Nijinsky Bay 1967 |
Northern Dancer Bay 1961 |
Nearctic Natalma |
1954 1957 |
14-c 2-d |
Flaming Page Bay 1959 |
Bull Page Flaring Top |
1947 1947 |
4-m 8-f |
Dancealot Bay 1971 |
Round Table Bay 1954 |
Princequillo Knight's Daughter |
1940 1941 |
1-b 2-f |
Music Please Chestnut 1963 |
To Market Santorin |
1948 1956 |
10-a 16-h |
Astral Row Brown 1979 |
Long Row Brown 1970 |
Linacre Brown 1960 |
Rockefella True Picture |
1941 1955 |
7-a 15-a |
Front Row Bay 1965 |
Epaulette Panaview |
1951 1960 |
15-a 42> |
Pak Bun Bay Bay 1970 |
Matinee Idol Bay 1956 |
Pinza Method |
1950 1951 |
3-i 13-e |
Philipolo Brown 1960 |
Marco Polo Philadelphia |
1946 1952 |
1-w 13-a |
|
Ancestor duplications: |
Northern Dancer |
3m x 4m |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: 2009-May-20, 02:10 PM by Authorized »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
| |
Gintara
VIP Club
Group 1 user 16
Online
Posts : 5888
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-19, 09:22 PM
|
I took from it that when he won he didn't beat much yet when he got beat it wasn't by much? Agree with Ed, thought it was fairly condescending 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Authorized
Steward
Group 1 user 18
Offline
Posts : 19693
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-19, 11:20 PM
|
"Shattered reputation"= even allowing for the exaggerated license that comes with headlines, this frankelly (boom boom) reeks of antiepodean condescension. Salvaging his reputation is something I dare say wont be written about Frankel should the great horse beat him at some point. If that were to happen, and everything is crossed that it does, I would expect some British excuse making of the like that Geoffrey Robertson would be proud.
SYT fans- dont let these European snobs, and some of the self appointed local racing cogniscenti who like rubbing shoulders with them, bring you down. This is a great horse who will make them eat humble pie.
Just like if Black Caviar is ever beaten in Australia we know something will have to have been wrong. Neither Black Caviar nor Frankel will ever be beaten unless there is an excuse. Neither will be beaten by better horses.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Ed
Listed user 1095
Offline
Alias: Edward
Posts : 346
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-19, 11:55 PM
|
Neither Black Caviar nor Frankel will ever be beaten unless there is an excuse. Neither will be beaten by better horses.
Re Frankel Authorised, notwithstanding he hasnt been beaten yet, is this not the exact stubborn attitude you've accused doe-eyed fans of SYT of in the past? That is. we are incapable, you've suggested perhaps because of an inferiority complex for example. of tipping our hats & saying "too good" if the horse is beaten on his merits? Please explain how you are not doing the same thing here with Frankel in saying he will never be beaten by a better horse?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Authorized
Steward
Group 1 user 18
Offline
Posts : 19693
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-20, 12:07 AM
|
Re Frankel Authorised, notwithstanding he hasnt been beaten yet, is this not the exact stubborn attitude you've accused doe-eyed fans of SYT of in the past? That is. we are incapable, you've suggested perhaps because of an inferiority complex for example. of tipping our hats & saying "too good" if the horse is beaten on his merits? Please explain how you are not doing the same thing here with Frankel in saying he will never be beaten by a better horse?
In all my time of following horse racing I have never seen two freaks of such racing class as these two. The chances that there would be horses capable of beating either is so remote as to be impossible. If and or when either is defeated I will evaluate the performances at the time. It is beyond my imagination to see either defeated.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: 2012-Jan-20, 12:10 AM by Authorized »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Ed
Listed user 1095
Offline
Alias: Edward
Posts : 346
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-20, 07:21 AM
|
Fair play- I guess its just a shame that the excuse either of them being beaten is so unlikely to be the other horse. Love to see a 1400/1500m clash down the straight. 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
firezuki
Group 2 user 259
Offline
Posts : 4484
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-20, 07:34 AM
|
I took from it that when he won he didn't beat much yet when he got beat it wasn't by much? Agree with Ed, thought it was fairly condescending  Absolutely. Love Frankel but I'd give anything to see SYT give him a whoopin'.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Steve M
Steward
Group 1 user 59
Offline
Posts : 5587
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-20, 09:55 AM
|
Connections of SYT would be too nervous to tackle SYT.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
winner
Group 2 user 415
Offline
Posts : 3529
|
|
|
 2012-Jan-20, 10:17 AM
|
Connections of SYT would be too nervous to tackle SYT.
I would pay to see that race.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Steve M
Steward
Group 1 user 59
Offline
Posts : 5587
|
|
|
 2012-Feb-24, 06:33 PM
|
Well there you go, he's coming back to stud it seems.
Not confirmed as Dubai runner but either Dubai or back to UK few runs - then back to stud in Australia.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
calgary
Group 1 user 61
Offline
Posts : 8536
|
|
|
 2012-Feb-25, 02:23 PM
|
He may not be able to beat UK donkey's according to that article but he would still flog anything we have running over championship distances here.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
manikato1
Group 2 user 195
Offline
Posts : 2171
|
|
|
 2012-Feb-25, 04:43 PM
|
Hmm,
The St George may have pinpointed the issues he has over there. Their horses, at longer than a mile, are just so much better than ours.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
The Jackal
Group 2 user 305
Offline
Posts : 1101
|
|
|
 2012-Feb-25, 05:08 PM
|
He won 4 of 7 in Europe ( 3 at Group 1 level ) 2nd at Group 1 level to Rewilding ( winner of Dubai Duty Free at previous start ) Beat Arc winner Workforce at Group 1 level and finished in front of it in the Arc. Finished in front of Snow Fairy 3 out of 4 attempts at Group 1 level 4th in the Arc in record time. .Upset 2nd at Group 1 level to Cirrus De Angel, but still in front of Snow Fairy and King George winner Nathaniel.
Only miss really was in USA on a dirt track.
Was anyone really expecting 8 out of 8 between the UK, Ireland and the USA?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Authorized
Steward
Group 1 user 18
Offline
Posts : 19693
|
|
|
 2012-Feb-25, 05:14 PM
|
Hmm,
The St George may have pinpointed the issues he has over there. Their horses, at longer than a mile, are just so much better than ours.
Are they that much better or are they better prepared as young horses ?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
firezuki
Group 2 user 259
Offline
Posts : 4484
|
|
|
 2012-Feb-25, 05:18 PM
|
Only miss really was in USA on a dirt track.
Even then he might have finished pretty close had he been on the outside where all the winners came from that day. The inside, where he made his run, was like soup.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Gintara
VIP Club
Group 1 user 16
Online
Posts : 5888
|
|
|
 2012-Feb-25, 05:20 PM
|
He won 4 of 7 in Europe ( 3 at Group 1 level ) 2nd at Group 1 level to Rewilding ( winner of Dubai Duty Free at previous start ) Beat Arc winner Workforce at Group 1 level and finished in front of it in the Arc. Finished in front of Snow Fairy 3 out of 4 attempts at Group 1 level 4th in the Arc in record time. .Upset 2nd at Group 1 level to Cirrus De Angel, but still in front of Snow Fairy and King George winner Nathaniel.
Only miss really was in USA on a dirt track.
Was anyone really expecting 8 out of 8 between the UK, Ireland and the USA?
It's interesting when you put it that way Jackal, not to mention he was slaughtered in the odd ride 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|