Peter Mair
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Original Post 2009-Jun-20, 06:47 AM
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NEW WHIP RULES: THE ECONOMICS OF CRIME
As reported in The Australian this morning,
Using Blake Shinn's ride in last year's Melbourne Cup on Viewed as an example, Bailey said a repeat of that level of whip use in the $5million race would certainly see the winning rider forfeit the riding fee, plus the maximum fine of $75,000 -- equating to half the 5 per cent commission of prizemoney.
Quite apart from the contradiction of last-year-good this-year-bad, it is a bit ambitious to think that the prospect of penalties (short of disqualification) will overwhelm a jockeys determination to win the Cup -- apart from anything else, the winning connections would be honor bound to cover the jockey's exes from the $3.5 million just trousered.
In short when $3.5 million overwhelms $225,000 by a factor of 15 -- the prospective penalties are an invitation to go for broke.
Loking back at some of the most memorable 'win at all costs' rides over the past 25 years, and attendant exemplary fines and suspensions, does anyone believe that the connections did not make good the situation for the jockey on a promise? In this vein, one of the most sensible and effective stewards decisions ever made was the relegation of Choisir in a Melbourne carnival race.
There is little point penalizing jockeys alone -- and no chance of a horse winning unfairly being disqualified.
Whatever else is done, it is past time for jockeys to subscribe to a code of practice -- including an annually signed undertaking to not use a whip excessively.
Any intention to apply the rule on a numbers basis will stand in ignorance of the difference betwen Des Lake and Peter Cook (but even PC went for broke in a Cup)
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 2009-Jun-20, 08:25 AM
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What is the point of the NEW rule, if the whips are padded
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governor
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 2009-Jun-20, 10:20 AM
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when an animal activist starts training a racehorse/s and wins a trainers premiership, i may take some notice, until then i wont ask them how to train or ride a horse and expect they wont ask me how to protect a green frog in a swamp.
but the ruling bodies keep acting on advice from people who are not experts in there field and we as an industry suffer. there is no other industry that works like that and nor would they.
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richo
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 2009-Jun-20, 12:41 PM
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animal activists are a bunch of  s after peta registered a complaint about President Obama killing a fly with a slap during an interview proves they have no credability and why the powers that be keep running scared amazes me.
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 2009-Jun-20, 01:02 PM
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animal activists are a bunch of  s after peta registered a complaint about President Obama killing a fly with a slap during an interview proves they have no credability and why the powers that be keep running scared amazes me. There is nothing wrong with campaigning for Animal rights, but i do wonder why the powers that be change policy because of any pressure from such groups. They would hardly be likely to turn an election. If Animal lobby groups have no influence at election time, why do politicians run scared of them ? Nobody can ever explain this without resorting to idiotic name calling.
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JWesleyHarding
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 2009-Aug-01, 08:03 AM
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Interesting to see who will be the first jockey pinged.
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 2009-Aug-01, 08:10 AM
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Put up a market for us Geof
Shane Scriven is riding up at Darwin today so he may be out of the limelight a bit.
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JWesleyHarding
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 2009-Aug-01, 01:10 PM
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Can excessive or incorrect whip use be used as grounds for a protest?
If not, why not?
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 2009-Aug-01, 01:36 PM
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thats a good point! i will have a look and find out
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 2009-Aug-01, 05:21 PM
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Corey Brown was reprimanded at Rosehill today for hitting a horse in 5 successive strides
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 2009-Aug-01, 05:21 PM
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Corey Brown was reprimanded at Rosehill today for hitting a horse in 5 successive strides
he was let off though,as he can't count
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 2009-Aug-01, 05:29 PM
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i saw heaps of riders whacking away down the straight like there was no tomorrow. one in particular in Adel' by a female jock' in winning would have done M Dittman proud. guess a bit of leway is in order till they get the jist of it. i don't understand if they are using padded whips now why the hitting restrictions. 
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 2009-Aug-01, 06:27 PM
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i saw heaps of riders whacking away down the straight like there was no tomorrow. one in particular in Adel' by a female jock' in winning would have done M Dittman proud. guess a bit of leway is in order till they get the jist of it. i don't understand if they are using padded whips now why the hitting restrictions.  Yes mate i seen that the bird on Street Singer in the 7th....was hitting the pr**k like there was no tomorrow...and it was already :censored:ing 5 in front when she pulled it out...
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 2009-Aug-01, 06:35 PM
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i don't understand if they are using padded whips now why the hitting restrictions. I with ya...i've got one of those whips...and used it the other nite on the Missus and she never flinched a muscle....im going back to the old whip... 
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 2009-Aug-01, 06:43 PM
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Yes mate i seen that the bird on Street Singer in the 7th....was hitting the pr**k like there was no tomorrow...and it was already :censored:ing 5 in front when she pulled it out...
I think he was referring to Hopwood in an earlier race. I don't think Neve hit Street Singer that often, if you watch it is motion more that hitting.
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