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Vic Owners Slam Move To Change Spring 2YO Races
The Victorian Thoroughbred Racing Owners' Association "has slammed Victoria Racing Club plans to remove 2YO racing from the pre-New Year racing calendar," reported racenet.com.au. The VRC "has advised Racing Victoria of its desire to push back the Maribyrnong Trial & Maribyrnong Plate from their prime spring carnival slots because of a decline in average starters". (Average runners in 2YO races run between October-December has dropped from 9.5 in 2004 to 7.8 in 2008 "prompting a decrease from 22 races run to 19 races run between August 1-January 1 each year.) Victorian Owners Association chairman David Moodie said the VRC plan would not come into force in this season, but would "cause problems for owners & breeders if it was introduced next season", declaring: "We are certainly opposed to any reduction in 2YO races, no matter what time of the year they are held. We see them as an appropriate part of the spring carnival & believe the status quo needs to be maintained. Owners & breeders would miss out on early black-type for their horses & it would have a detrimental effect on the autumn yearling sales & buyers there." Moodie noted any reschedule of the Maribyrnong Trial & Plate would also "affect the chances of Victorian horses getting a run in the Gr1 Golden Slipper, because of the need to earn early prize-money".
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2009-Aug-07, 10:47 AM
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Great move.  |
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2009-Aug-07, 01:52 PM
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Surely this is no surprise. The lack of horses in 2yo races in town before Xmas is startling. They provide poor betting mediums as many of the horses are completely unexposed, and many of the races are no more than glorified maidens. 2yo's should be coming through the provincials before coming to town, which would filter out some of the dross before they race in town, giving us punters a better betting medium, and a larger pool of horses, as we don't seem to breed early 2yo's the way we once did.
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2009-Aug-07, 01:57 PM
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They should not not have 2yo racing at that time of year, but there should be NO black type 2yo racing anywhere in Australia until well into the season, ie Christmas.  the punters, of course there should metropolitan 2yo racing during the spring just not black type. |
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2009-Aug-07, 01:59 PM
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Owners racing 2year olds would be happy to come through the provincials provided they can earn city class prizemoney.
I don't like the early starts as 2 year olds but if your paying for 1 of them it's nice to have some return during their 2 year old days.
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2009-Aug-07, 02:04 PM
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Owners racing 2year olds would be happy to come through the provincials provided they can earn city class prizemoney.
I don't like the early starts as 2 year olds but if your paying for 1 of them it's nice to have some return during their 2 year old days.
Why do you not like the early season starts for 2yos ? Is there some sort of scientific basis for this comment ? The only breeding country on the planet that does not have early season 2yo racing is Germany. |
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2009-Aug-07, 02:13 PM
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Why do you not like the early season starts for 2yos ? Because they are immature and some don't race on as 3 year olds
Is there some sort of scientific basis for this comment ? Probably but can't say for sure
The only breeding country on the planet that does not have early season 2yo racing is Germany.
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2009-Aug-07, 02:14 PM
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They are not all immature, SOME are bred to go at 2. That is up to connections to decide if they are ready to race, NOT LEGISLATION.
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2009-Aug-07, 02:22 PM
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As an owner I have never had one start as a 2 year old ...yet
In saying that all of mine have raced on well into their years and I put a lot of that into the fact they never raced as 2 year olds.....Fact or fiction...I don't know.
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2009-Aug-07, 02:29 PM
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As an owner I have never had one start as a 2 year old ...yet
In saying that all of mine have raced on well into their years and I put a lot of that into the fact they never raced as 2 year olds.....Fact or fiction...I don't know.
If you have never had a 2yo starter you can not really say for sure why they have trained on. Sea Buiscuit - Flavour come to mind. |
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2009-Aug-07, 02:35 PM
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If you have never had a 2yo starter you can not really say for sure why they have trained on.
Sea Buiscuit - Flavour come to mind.
The main reason for not having a starter as a 2 year old was the FACT they all went shinny at various times during their preps. From what I gather in the UK the majority of 2 year olds are trained on the straight ...they don't rail like greyhounds and for that reason don't seem to suffer the same shin soreness problems of Aussie trained horses. |
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2009-Aug-07, 02:41 PM
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The main reason for not having a starter as a 2 year old was the FACT they all went shinny at various times during their preps.
From what I gather in the UK the majority of 2 year olds are trained on the straight ...they don't rail like greyhounds and for that reason don't seem to suffer the same shin soreness problems of Aussie trained horses.
This is a very very good point. Ok all your horses have gone shine sore, but there are plenty who up and ready to race by September of their 2yo year and they should not be denied the opportunity to do so. From a punting perspective I think they are brilliant betting races. |
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2009-Aug-07, 02:46 PM
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Don't get me wrong..if I have one that is ready to race as a 2 year old then it will race.
Hopefully i will have one this year.
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2009-Aug-07, 02:50 PM
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I love the 2yo Spring races  |
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2009-Aug-07, 02:52 PM
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I love the 2yo Spring races I love them too, but they should not be black type. The only consistent highclass form race is the Breeders Plate, and I fail to see how a race full of first starters can have black type, no matter what its record for future good horses. |
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