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Original Post 2009-Sep-02, 09:23 AM

UK Expert Calls For Artificial Insemination
Professor Twink Allen, the former director of Britain's Thoroughbred Breeders Association Equine Fertility Unit in Newmarket, "has stepped up his campaign for the abolition of the rule banning artificial insemination by hitting out at the big stallion owners" & "claiming they are deliberately standing in the way of what he regards as progress", reported racingpost.com. Allen told the International Breeders Seminar at Somerset West near Cape Town in South Africa: "The stallion owners are frightened of change & a few financially powerful ones simply refuse to discuss AI - and it's the numerically larger but financially smaller mare owners who suffer. A handful of wealthy stallion owners are afraid of it & frightened by a change in the status quo. In their minds, they see their stud farms would diminish or disappear." Allen called the AI ban "antiquated" & declared: "We have gone on too long with this attitude of we are not going to talk about it, go away. We must discuss it. AI reduces the risk of venereal disease, mating injuries & uterine infections. It also cuts down on the amount of labour required. People say that it will lead to the most popular stallions inseminating huge numbers of mares, but that's not going to happen. In the American Standard-bred (trotting) world, where they do use AI, the numbers of mares-per-stallion have actually come down, because breeders don't want to flood the market with too many yearlings by the same sire. The same would happen in the thoroughbred world." (Sep 2)

Allen To Address US Breeders On AI Debate
Professor Twink Allen "intends spreading" his campaign against the AI-ban "around the globe" noted racingpost.com. "In January he will address a large group of American breeders in Kentucky". Allen "is also in touch with Bruce McHugh, the former Sydney Turf Club chairman who is taking the Australian Stud Book to court"; McHugh maintains the anti-AI rule "is a restraint of trade & therefore illegal". Allen summed up: "It is now high time the existing ban on the use of AI & ET in thoroughbred breeding be reviewed in light of the very obvious potential health, welfare & economic benefits." (Sep 2)
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2009-Sep-02, 05:17 PM

There was lengthy discussion on this on the old Forum.

Definitely a common sense decision!! Thumb Up

Owners/breeders are copping a hefty surcharge for the shuttling of sires, moving of mares to the sire, etc etc.

I haven't heard one sustainable argument AGAINST artificial insemination for thoroughbreds.
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2009-Sep-02, 05:19 PM

I haven't heard one sustainable argument AGAINST artificial insemination for thoroughbreds.


Surely there'd be an argument from the male party if they could talk
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2009-Sep-02, 05:31 PM

Artificial Insemination. The answer is blowin' in the wind.
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2009-Sep-04, 03:39 PM

I am not sure, but I can't understand why it is disallowed  what

Wouldn't it inceease the gene pool.

Have access to a lot more bloodlins then just those available in Australia  Undecided

What is the argument against 
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2009-Sep-04, 03:45 PM

The only argument I have heard:

There'll be a million Redoute's Choice off-spring in one season - but that's a nonsense since the number of conceptions would be controlled through self-regulation.  There'd still be the requirement for the presence of an attending vet, blah, blah.

The huge reduction in cost to owners and breeders, and the virtual elimination of risk of injury in transport and either or both sire and dam far outweighs any negatives.
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2009-Sep-04, 03:47 PM

There'll be a million Redoute's Choice off-spring in one season


You still have to be able to afford Redoute's Choice first ... lol

Maybe some of the breeders are afraid of a little competition  Undecided
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2009-Sep-04, 05:15 PM

Was at a bbq recently when the  topic of conversation happened to be a sperm bank for geldings biggrin

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2009-Sep-08, 04:31 PM

The idea is not as silly as it sounds, governor.

With today's technology, there's not a reason in the world why an owner should not be able to collect semen from his/her horse prior to it being gelded (in order to enhance its racing career).

I don't think the world would collapse if we had horses sired by (now) geldings.  There might already be precedents for that.  Has there been a sire who's served mares, then been gelded and raced???? chin
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2009-Sep-08, 04:38 PM

Guineas ?
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2009-Sep-09, 08:07 PM

Ummmm...did he return to racing as a gelding?

But, yeah...could be one. chin
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2009-Sep-09, 08:42 PM

Wondering if Standard Bred Stallion fees reduced when it was introduced due to the wxtra competition?  what

Studs would lose a lot of agistment fees from mares who wouldn't have to visit anymore. Maybe they'd be lots of mix ups by using semen from wrong stallions?
 
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2009-Sep-09, 09:16 PM

Studs would lose a lot of agistment fees from mares who wouldn't have to visit anymore. Maybe they'd be lots of mix ups by using semen from wrong stallions?


Yes re fees, and in other words owners would save money.

As for 'mix-ups", basic quality assurance would deal with that, and all progeny are checked genetically to confirm they're who they're supposed to be.  I don't see that as an argument against AID in throughbreds.
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2009-Sep-10, 10:05 AM

from studbook

Only the produce of natural services are accepted by the Australian Stud Book. Foals produced by any artificial means are not permitted into the Australian Stud Book under international protocols. This specifically means artificial insemination, embryo transfer, cloning and genetic manipulation. However, as an aid to a mating, the immediate reinforcement of natural service is permitted provided certain stipulations are adhered to.
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2010-Jan-18, 11:36 PM

Research Condemns AI Benefits

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Saturday, 16 January 2010: The artificial insemination debate continues with evidence produced that that questions whether the introduction of AI would improve overall fertility in the thoroughbred population and result in a narrowing of the gene pool.

AI supporters claim it will improve fertility rates and that it does not narrow the gene pool but new research conducted by Arrowfield's pedigree analyst Peter Jenkins discounts those theories.

Using the Australian standardbred industry as a model Jenkins' research shows that overall fertility, as manifested in the live foal rate, diminished with the use of AI and that there has been a significant narrowing of the gene pool since its widespread introduction into the standardbred industry.

Jenkins claims the use of the Australian standardbred industry as a model to study the effects of AI carries strong credibility due to identical geographical and climatic conditions and a common pool of veterinary expertise.

His research revealed that n 1994 the live foal rate for thoroughbreds in Australia was 63.4%, trailing by 6.4% the standardbred rate of 69.8%.

By 2008 the thoroughbred live foal rate had risen to 67%, eclipsing the standardbred rate of 61.3% by 5.7%.

Imported frozen or chilled semen was used on more than 100 standardbred mares for the first time in 1998 and was the very year that the standardbred live foal rate fell below that of the thoroughbreds, a trend that has continued over the past decade.

Jenkins says the comparative study of the top 20 most popular stallions in the standardbred code, in both the pre-AI and current era, shows that stallion numbers have been reduced by more than half with the most popular stallions serving vastly more mares.

The top five standardbred sires averaged 341 mares served per season (including chilled semen services in NZ) and the top 20 sires covered 42% of the total broodmares bred in Australia and NZ combined.

This compares with 15.8% of mares bred being covered by the top 20 stallions in the pre-AI standardbred era.

Jenkins says it is apparent that a similar pattern would develop if AI were introduced in Australian thoroughbred breeding.

“In fact, if the Australian thoroughbred industry was overlaid with the standardbred model, we could see the top 20 thoroughbred stallions 'covering' over 550 mares annually on average” said Jenkins.

“This reduction of stallion numbers and the enlarged books served by the most popular sires would logically result in a significant genetic narrowing which, using sire lines as a marker, is confirmed by our research.”

Jenkins said the impact of AI on the thoroughbred code is liable to be dramatic in terms of genetic narrowing due to the high numbers and the very strong commercial impact imported mares have enjoyed in Australian breeding in recent years.

Arrowfield chairman John Messara said the findings from Jenkins research were a c9ndemnation of the campaign to introduce AI to Australian breeding.

“I believe the standardbred experience confirms that an AI regime in thoroughbreds would result in genetic narrowing, a likely significant reduction in stallion numbers together with a large increase in the number of mares being bred by popular stallions leading to a greater concentration of power among stallion owners, and added to this no fertility advantage for the general broodmare population”, Messara said.

'Not surprisingly, the reproduction vets are supportive of the introduction of AI because it can assist them with sub-fertile breeding stock - the bane of their lives.

“However, as can be seen in standardbreds, the application of AI would not improve the fertility figures industry wide.

“While the most established stallion operators, such as Arrowfield, would be the major financial beneficiaries from the introduction of AI, my belief is that A. would have serious negative impacts on racing and the thoroughbred industry as a whole.”

A court challenge has been launched by former Sydney Turf Club chairman and breeder Bruce McHugh seeking to overturn the AI ban maintained by International Stud Book and racing suthorities,



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