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UK Expert Calls For Artificial Insemination Professor Twink Allen, the former director of Britain's Thoroughbred Breeders Association Equine Fertility Unit in Newmarket, "has stepped up his campaign for the abolition of the rule banning artificial insemination by hitting out at the big stallion owners" & "claiming they are deliberately standing in the way of what he regards as progress", reported racingpost.com. Allen told the International Breeders Seminar at Somerset West near Cape Town in South Africa: "The stallion owners are frightened of change & a few financially powerful ones simply refuse to discuss AI - and it's the numerically larger but financially smaller mare owners who suffer. A handful of wealthy stallion owners are afraid of it & frightened by a change in the status quo. In their minds, they see their stud farms would diminish or disappear." Allen called the AI ban "antiquated" & declared: "We have gone on too long with this attitude of we are not going to talk about it, go away. We must discuss it. AI reduces the risk of venereal disease, mating injuries & uterine infections. It also cuts down on the amount of labour required. People say that it will lead to the most popular stallions inseminating huge numbers of mares, but that's not going to happen. In the American Standard-bred (trotting) world, where they do use AI, the numbers of mares-per-stallion have actually come down, because breeders don't want to flood the market with too many yearlings by the same sire. The same would happen in the thoroughbred world." (Sep 2)
Allen To Address US Breeders On AI Debate Professor Twink Allen "intends spreading" his campaign against the AI-ban "around the globe" noted racingpost.com. "In January he will address a large group of American breeders in Kentucky". Allen "is also in touch with Bruce McHugh, the former Sydney Turf Club chairman who is taking the Australian Stud Book to court"; McHugh maintains the anti-AI rule "is a restraint of trade & therefore illegal". Allen summed up: "It is now high time the existing ban on the use of AI & ET in thoroughbred breeding be reviewed in light of the very obvious potential health, welfare & economic benefits." (Sep 2)
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 2010-Jan-19, 12:56 PM
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the immediate reinforcement of natural service is permitted provided certain stipulations are adhered to.
Meaning ? 
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 2010-Jan-19, 12:58 PM
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Meaning ?  Rape
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 2010-Jan-19, 12:59 PM
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Immediate re-inforcement suggests AI is already a reality.
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 2010-Jan-19, 01:04 PM
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Exactly right, If they were fair dinkum they would stick their stallion in a paddock with the mare they want served by him and hope they like each other.
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 2010-Jan-19, 01:09 PM
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Explains why some stallions are covering many more than was the max. a few years ago.
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 2010-Jan-19, 02:03 PM
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Exactly right, If they were fair dinkum they would stick their stallion in a paddock with the mare they want served by him and hope they like each other.
but wouldn't the bottle of wine, and box of the very best Belgium chocolates, be regarded as re-inforcement?
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 2010-Jan-19, 05:15 PM
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Thats an interesting read about the standardbreds.
I'm against AI for many of the reasons stated in the article
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 2010-Jan-19, 05:26 PM
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I wonder how long it will take Alan Jones to get on the anti-AI bandwagon? I tip he'll wait until just before the McHugh hearing is due to start.
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I would imagine the fact most, if not all of his horse dealings are throguh Arrowfield, he would be heavily influenced by John Messarra and that would be fair enough wouldn't it ?
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 2010-Jan-19, 06:40 PM
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I haven't heard one sustainable argument AGAINST artificial insemination for thoroughbreds.
I can see stallions sticking there hooves in the air on this one 
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 2010-Jan-29, 11:26 AM
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This is from an article at virtual formguide, comments made by Gerry Harvey about AI during the EI drama in 2007.
"If there was AI, this wouldn't be a problem in the breeding business and we wouldn't even have it because these stallions wouldn't have even come into the country,"
"This is a case of the law being a damned nuisance, because if you had a breeding society that said you could only serve 100 or 150 or 200 mares then it would never become a problem."
"You use AI and you save all this stupid business about putting stallions on planes and carting them all around the world."
"I've got no doubt it's only a matter of time before AI becomes the preferred and only way to do it."
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 2010-Jan-29, 11:32 AM
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"I've got no doubt it's only a matter of time before AI becomes the preferred and only way to do it."
Obviously he has taken no notice of the Stallion Unions thoughts on this.
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 2010-Jan-29, 11:52 AM
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 It'll give them a chance to pursue a monogamous relationship for the first time on their life. I'm sure they'll find it more fulfilling
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 2010-Jan-29, 06:31 PM
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Fastnet Rock certainly covered a lot of mares, 271 in 2009 season Now he's off to GB, wonder how many mares he can handle up there? Now there's a horse who might find AI a bit easier on the body  Unreal how many mares some of these stallions cover in a season
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