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Original Post 2009-Nov-08, 01:12 PM

To be run SATURDAY November 28, 2009


=============== NSW 2 ===============
 
ALL SILENT 6G BANK ROBBER 5G 
     
=============== VIC 7 ===============
 
ALL AMERICAN 4H NICCONI 4H VON COSTA DE HERO 4H
APACHE CAT 7G ORTENSIA 4M 
EAGLE FALLS 4G RED ELEMENT 5H 
     
=============== WA 22 ===============

     
BLACK IN TIME 5M HAY LIST 4G  OROYA GOLD 6G
DANNY BEAU 6G IDYLLIC PRINCE 7G  ROYAL LOTT 9G
DANTE'S VOLONTE 6G KENS DOUBLE 5G  SHEENASAIDGREY 4G
ELLIOTTO 5G KID CHOISIR 3C TARZI 7G
FLIGHT PATH 4M LET GO THOMMO 9G THREE AMIGOS 6G
FOLLOW THE ROAD 5G LONDON 5G  WARATAH'S SECRET 3G
FORMAL ATTIRE 7H  MA MA MACHINE 5G 
HADABECLORKA 8G NOBLE STEED 7G 


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2009-Nov-28, 08:46 PM

How Noonan has let Williams retain the rides on her after the sloughtering on Cup day I really dont know, but from the good gate Ortensia will go very close. The drop back in distance (although it suits) is the only concern for me.


A higlight in a pretty shitty day for me..
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2009-Nov-28, 10:27 PM

Are you the full quid or what mark...she had every chance on cup day ...but wasn't good enough ...got out at the right time but just didn't ping...and today who in the  censored you going to put on her over there today apart from P Harvey....hey marky you really don't know much about the game ...keep trying old son...you'll learn.... wink
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2009-Nov-28, 10:35 PM

Are you the full quid or what mark...she had every chance on cup day ...but wasn't good enough ...got out at the right time but just didn't ping...and today who in the  censored you going to put on her over there today apart from P Harvey....hey marky you really don't know much about the game ...keep trying old son...you'll learn.... wink


Sporty you've lost it. Saying Ortensia had every possible hope that day you've absolutely lost it mate, nobody who knows a thing about the game will tell you she had every hope that day, and I didnt even back her.  wink
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2009-Nov-28, 10:39 PM

And also, I'm sure there were plenty of other top Melb jocks who would have flown to ride her.

Anyhow Williams rode her a beauty today. 
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2009-Nov-28, 11:29 PM

Think i was pretty much right here, basiccily if the pace was on Ortensia would be very hard to beat.
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2009-Nov-28, 11:32 PM

Sporty you've lost it. Saying Ortensia had every possible hope that day you've absolutely lost it mate, nobody who knows a thing about the game will tell you she had every hope that day, and I didnt even back her. wink


She had every hope you idiot ...she got out and couldn't match it with Stawberry Field who yeh was in clear room down the outer....but she couldn't excellerate to go with her once she got out....Marky you haven't got a clue old mate....about the game...hey remember would you first joined this forum and blokes where upper you like anything because you asked where can i get the prices for tomorrow fields  and next and next day  lol   lol   lol ..and they said marky you must wait till there is a flood of money in the pools to get the prices.....but no you wouldn't have it     lol   lol as you said they must start straight away ......   lol   lol . what with ghost money ...you silly old fool....   lol ....you got alot to learn marky old boy...keep trying....you'll get there... wink   lol
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2009-Nov-28, 11:44 PM

And also, I'm sure there were plenty of other top Melb jocks who would have flown to ride her.

Anyhow Williams rode her a beauty today. 


lol   lol   lol ....your nothing but a couch rider and a mug punter  that knows nothing...marky you dagged Williams  ride Cup day...was you on .. lol   lol   lol  cause you was loser... lol   lol   lol
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2009-Nov-29, 08:05 AM

She had every hope you idiot ...she got out and couldn't match it with Stawberry Field who yeh was in clear room down the outer....but she couldn't excellerate to go with her once she got out....Marky you haven't got a clue old mate....about the game...hey remember would you first joined this forum and blokes where upper you like anything because you asked where can i get the prices for tomorrow fields  and next and next day  lol   lol   lol ..and they said marky you must wait till there is a flood of money in the pools to get the prices.....but no you wouldn't have it    lol       lol    as you said they must start straight away ......    lol       lol   . what with ghost money ...you silly old fool....    lol   ....you got alot to learn marky old boy...keep trying....you'll get there... wink    lol  


Watch the replay as I'm struggling to believe if you've actually seen the race or not. Look when she gets out and how long in the straight she's only cantering.. Of course the orse on the outside who's had all day to wind up is gonne win when she only has 50m to wind up. Even if you were to say she was seriously unlucky as some did rather than blame the ride it would make sense. Unbelievable.
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2009-Nov-29, 08:15 AM

The worst part I reckon Sporty is that you say she had 'every possible hope'... lol  lol  lol  lol

Or maybe that's just your definition of that from your riding days.  chin
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2009-Nov-29, 08:30 AM

Sporty is right she got out in plenty of time at Flemington.

The truth is she doesnt run 1400m strongly, there have been at least 3 occasions at 1400 where she has been very weak in the last 50m. Runing her in a mile race was a joke. 

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2009-Nov-29, 08:32 AM

Sporty is right she got out in plenty of time at Flemington.

The truth is she doesnt run 1400m strongly, there have been at least 3 occasions at 1400 where she has been very weak in the last 50m. Runing her in a mile race was a joke. 




Geez Anti this is some surprise.  rolleyes    Maybe she doesnt get 1400 but she still should have won there.

Clearly just trying to piss me off.  Thumbs Down
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2009-Nov-29, 09:43 AM

To be fair to Mark that defeat had a lot to do with Strawberry Field having unimpeded momentum. If Ortensia had an unimpeded run to the line her momentum would have carried her to victory that day, Strawberry Field would not have caught her.

I also agree she does not run 1400m in the best company but the Cup day company was hardly vintage.
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2009-Nov-29, 10:37 AM

Have no idea of what was chasing her, but Ortensia was very impressive, IMO.

Hope we see her back in Sunny (read hot, humid) Queensland next year. Thumb Up
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2009-Nov-29, 02:11 PM

To be fair to Mark that defeat had a lot to do with Strawberry Field having unimpeded momentum. If Ortensia had an unimpeded run to the line her momentum would have carried her to victory that day, Strawberry Field would not have caught her.

I also agree she does not run 1400m in the best company but the Cup day company was hardly vintage.


So someone here has got some balls to stand up for what they know is right cheers Matty.
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