Racehorse Talk

To correct my sectional analysis, B ran 102.45 /last 600 estimate of 33.6
P ran 102.97/33.98 herself for last 600 as she was leading.
He came home 2 or 3 lengths better in a race which was faster by 3 lengths overall.
Not knocking her, but all she did was face the breeze and she wasn't hassled.
He had to chase in a harder race, admittedly margins but thats what the game is about.
That'll do me.

Reminds me a lot of last year's edition - Rostova Real Saga.. Neither won

Think it might be a different story this year though

Leaning toward Ben though, Crystal Lily will give Psychologist a hard time, if not in fact lead her, and the two of em will set it up for Ben if he gets the runs.

ARROWFIELD STUD BLUE DIAMOND STAKES - 1200 METRES

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Of $1000000 and $15000 trophy.  1st $600000 and trophy of $15000, 2nd $180000, 3rd $90000, 4th $45000, 5th $25000, 6th $20000, 7th $20000, 8th $20000. For Two-Years-Old. Set Weights. (GROUP 1). This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses. No Allowances for apprentices.

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No	Horse	Trainer	Handicapper Rating
1	ANDROMACHE (NZ)	Lee Freedman
2	BARANGAROO	Mick Price
3	BEAU VALLON	Charlie Goggin
4	BEDHRAH	David Hayes
5	BEG	Peter Snowden
6	BELL TREES	Mick Price
7	BENETEAU	Paul Messara
8	BIT OF A DUDE	Stuart Gower
9	CRYSTAL LILY	Mathew Ellerton & Simon Zahra
10	DARKTONIAN	Ern Ewert (Jnr)
11	EBONY ROCK	David Hayes
12	ECHOES OF HEAVEN	Mick Price
13	ELLO ELLO	John McArdle
14	EVIDENTIA	David Hayes
15	EXCELLENCE	Anthony Cummings
16	EXTREMIS	Anthony Cummings
17	FOLLONICA	Lee Freedman
18	FORGIVEN	Anthony Cummings
19	GARVAN	Peter Snowden
20	GENERAL TRUCE	Ricky Maund
21	GIGSTAR	David Hayes
22	GOOD HUNTING	Anthony Cummings
23	I'M LOVELY	Anthony Cummings
24	INNOCENT GAMBLE	Mark Riley
25	LEGALISTIC	David Hayes
26	MARMAA	David Hayes
27	MCLOADED	John McArdle
28	MILESTONE	Lee Freedman
29	MISS FIONA	Mick Price
30	NEEDS FURTHER	Gai Waterhouse
31	NOT QUITE	Troy Corstens
32	PANIPIQUE	Peter G Moody
33	PELLIZOTTI	Lee Freedman
34	PSYCHOLOGIST	Tony Vasil
35	QUEEN'S FASHION	David Hayes
36	RASEED	David Hayes
37	ROULETTES	Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes
38	SALIVATE	David Hayes
39	SECESSION	Peter Snowden
40	SHAAHEQ	David Hayes
41	SHE'S GOT GEARS	Robbie Laing
42	SHEILA'S STAR	John Symons & Sheila Laxon
43	SIENNA GOLD	Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes
44	SPIRIT CENT	John Leek (Jnr)
45	STAR WITNESS	Danny O'Brien
46	SWEET CHEEKS	John McArdle
47	TIZONA	Peter Snowden
48	TRICKY TRICKY	Leon Corstens
49	WHOOPTANG	Wendy Kelly
50	WILLOW CREEK	Peter G Moody
51	YOUEFFOH	Lee Freedman

I'll still be on SHAAHEQ 

On Sydney radio today I think both Ron Dufficy and Dean Lester were refusing to right Secession off - saying it was ridden upside down and the market had overreacted (note that I was distracted by someone at work wanting to talk to me so can't be categorical that it was Secession they were talking about)

Thanks for that great information LH. 

I now can be categorical - listened to start of the podcast 

I was just going to type that myself

I agree with them

I doubt whether you'd type all that yourself if you didn't agree withm them.

It's no secret that Secession was killed by running up front.

But if Secession and Songspur punctured so badly why did General Truce keep going?

Beneteau had a wall of horses covering him up on the rail. Getting clear was the hard part, sprinting home for the win was gonna take all the class he had but it was easy with the setup. 

slick times, track must have been very good

Cant remember the last time I could say this about a BD, but I genuinely cant wait for this.


I reckon at this stage the only one of the top 5 or 6 favs I'd be prepared to work around would be Crystal Lily.  Barriers will play a HUGE part in this race.

Mark,

I'm on the same opinion as Wortel on Secession. Just was ridden up side down----gets cover--woshhhhh.

Your thoughts.

Yes Secession is better than that run I agree on that point, however I wouldnt have it in my top 3..

Was always unders at $7 before Saturday, I mean he beat Shaheq by 1.5l, this time in (Shaheq would be a better horse for it) Crystal Lily beat her by double what Secession did - I mean is that not fair enough?

FINAL FIELD -

1 GENERAL TRUCE Ricky Maund Andrew Mallyon 14 55.5  82
2 STAR WITNESS Danny O'Brien Nicholas Hall 15 55.5  82
3 BENETEAU Paul Messara Daniel Ganderton (a) 9 55.5  86
4 SECESSION Peter Snowden Kerrin McEvoy 5 55.5  78
5 BIT OF A DUDE Stuart Gower Michael Hoppo 8 55.5  68
6 SPIRIT CENT John Leek (Jnr) Michelle Payne 13 55.5  64
7 TRICKY TRICKY Leon Corstens Michael Rodd 1 55.5  66
8 LEGALISTIC David Hayes Brad Rawiller 12 55.5  65
9 SHE'S GOT GEARS Robbie Laing Craig Williams 2 53.5  78
10 SWEET CHEEKS John McArdle Damien Oliver 4 53.5  76
11 CRYSTAL LILY Mathew Ellerton & Simon Zahra Chris Symons 11 53.5  80
12 ROULETTES Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Steven King 3 53.5  74
13 PSYCHOLOGIST Tony Vasil Mark Zahra 16 53.5  86
14 SHAAHEQ David Hayes Danny Nikolic 6 53.5  70
15 EVIDENTIA David Hayes Brett Prebble 7 53.5  70
16 WILLOW CREEK Peter G Moody Luke Nolen 10 53.5  66

The two speedy fillies and General Truce have drawn wide and will be forced to go forward, I get the impression Tony Vasil wanted PSYCHOLOGIST ridden quietly but that might be hard from out there.

And the favorite Beneteau has been delt no favors from gate nine, he'll have to be every bit has good a s they think he is.

Star Witness was always likely to go back worse than midfield so gate 15 should not be a great obstacle.


Trick Tricky will improve with the one gate helping him out.

Loverly draw for SHAAHEQ 

If it wasn't already the usual raffle the draw has made it even more so. 

You don't know much about Caulfield. There's a long straight run to the turn. Barriers dont matter at 1200m there.

barrier 15 is the highest winning barrier since 2000 all races with 15%
barrier 16 is equal 3rd highest with 10%