Racehorse TALK

Who LOOKS the better horse ?

To my eye Typhoon Tracy is infinitely superior.

Based on mares races 

Formlines say MM is superior 

"infinitely" You could get a gig with the IPCC with exaggerations like that.

Scenic Bullet - out.

Typhoon Pharlap in

MM has form around All American, WBGY, Apache Cat, Danleigh and All Silent. All open grp 1 winners

TT couldnt beat WBGY and has form around mares 

According to the track manager on radio this mornign Caulfield has missed almost all of the rain so much so he is putting a little irrigation on this afternoon.

He expects a dead4 to be upgraded early in the day

So Danleigh is a cert up in Sydney tomorrow then?

By Mark Ryan
MELBOURNE, Feb 5 AAP - Typhoon Tracy is an even more dominant favourite for Saturday's CF Orr Stakes at Caulfield following the scratching of Sniper's Bullet due to an infection.
Mudgee trainer Tracey Bartley said the triple Group One winner had an elevated white blood cell count and he decided to withdraw the six-year-old gelding.
"It looks like he has an infection of some sort. It's not worth running the risk, I don't want to risk flattening him first-up," Bartley said.
"He's very well the horse, but something is not quite right so we've scratched him."
With Sniper's Bullet out of the Group One 1400m weight-for-age feature, trainer Peter Moody said Typhoon Tracy ($1.55 fav) was now looking to take a sit behind Danzylum ($21).
"I think Danzylum is one-dimensional in the fact that he races forward," Moody said.
"He's rock-hard fit and in form and his general pattern is to lead and we've got no great desire to want to have to lead so we're inclined to think he'll lead and we'll sit just behind him.
"In her last win at Flemington (in the the Group One Myer Classic), she was happy to sit off a pretty solid pace and put six lengths on them in the space of 50 yards.
"But in saying that she is a very brilliant horse and horses have to go fast to head her just with her natural gate speed and her ability to travel at such a high speed."
Typhoon Tracy has drawn barrier one in the nine-horse field with Danzylum in gate two.
Mick Price is after his second Orr success with Heart Of Dreams ($4.60) following the success of Shinzig in 2008.
Heart Of Dreams was scratched from what was to be his first-up assignment in the Group Two Australia Stakes won by Black Caviar at Moonee Valley two weeks ago due to an elevated white cell blood count.
But Price said he was still right on target for a crack at the $1 million Australian Cup (2000m) at Flemington on March 6.
Craig Newitt, who landed his first Group One win in the 2006 Orr aboard Perfect Promise, will again ride Heart Of Dreams.
Master trainer Bart Cummings is happy with his star stayer Viewed ($18), who hasn't raced since finishing seventh in the 2009 Melbourne Cup, and Sirmione ($51) who hasn't started for nearly a year after going amiss.
"They are starting off and I don't think seven furlongs (1400m) suits," he said.
"Sirmione is going good but has never won first-up in his life.
"I'm happy with Viewed, maybe a little each-way on him."
Viewed has won twice first-up and finished second and fourth twice from six tries.
The Mark Kavanagh-trained Shocking ($23), who hasn't won first-up, will be attempting to become the sixth Melbourne Cup winner to take out the Orr in the same season.
Saintly in 1997, Jeune (1995), Let's Elope (1992), At Talaq (1987) and Comic Court in 1951 are the Melbourne Cup winners to complete the double.
Kavanagh and jockey Michael Rodd are going for back-to-back Orr victories with Shocking having combined to win the race last year with 2008 Cox Plate victor Maldivian.

  fresh - mic mac would win - and prob start fav
seems to race best fresh

can't see TT getting beat here though - nothing in the field to do it - anyone think caufield is back to the leader biased track of old - i certainly do - through spring bar Ccup day and also this year- because of that i'm standing out TT and taking danzylum to run 2nd , 3rd or 4th in exacta ,tri and f4 respectively with the field

I know Typhoon Tracy looks the winner.However, since the ban on administering hydroxyprogesterone to horses in Australia, a couple of years ago, once again it has become a lot harder for the mares in Australia to be able beat male horses.

Reading that article and looking at the quality of horse that has won the MC-Orr double I would say Shocking is buckley's chance today.

Damn I am shitting bricks, I'll cry if she loses - have her going for plenty with my Denman - TT double, and also Chuggers and I put on an all upper today (3 legs home, one to go - TT).