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7 - 3.40PM - DAVID JONES AJC AUSTRALIAN DERBY - 2400 METRES
Of $1300000 and $14500 trophies. 1st $780000 and trophies of $13500 to owner $500 to trainer $500 to jockey, 2nd $260000, 3rd $130000, 4th $65000, 5th $26000, 6th $13000, 7th $13000, 8th $13000. For Three-Years-Old. Set Weights. ( GROUP 1). No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 18 + 4 EM
| No | Horse | Trainer | Jockey | Barrier | Weight | Penalty | Handicapper Rating |
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| 1 | MONACO CONSUL (NZ) | Michael Moroney | Damien Oliver | 4 | 56.5 | | 100 |
| 2 | ROCK CLASSIC | Bart Cummings | Michael Rodd | 7 | 56.5 | | 106 |
| 3 | SHOOT OUT | John Wallace | Stathi Katsidis | 9 | 56.5 | | 105 |
| 4 | EXTRA ZERO | David Hayes | Glen Boss | 5 | 56.5 | | 95 |
| 5 | ZABRASIVE (NZ) | John O'Shea | Hugh Bowman | 3 | 56.5 | | 107 |
| 6 | HANDSOME ZULU (NZ) | John Sargent | H W Lai | 11 | 56.5 | | 80 |
| 7 | COUNT ENCOSTA | John P Thompson | Brenton Avdulla (a) | 1 | 56.5 | | 90 |
| 8 | DESCARADO (NZ) | Gai Waterhouse | Nash Rawiller | 8 | 56.5 | | 88 |
| 9 | SAINT ENCOSTA | John P Thompson | Craig Williams | 14 | 56.5 | | 73 |
| 10 | SHERPA TENZING (NZ) | Jim Conlan | Mark Zahra | 13 | 56.5 | | 64 |
| 11 | LANDLOCKED (NZ) | Anthony Cummings | Jay Ford | 15 | 56.5 | | 64 |
| 12 | HOME ON A WING | Anthony Cummings | Tim Clark | 2 | 56.5 | | 60 |
| 13 | SUYAMA (NZ) | Bart Cummings | Michelle Payne | 12 | 56.5 | | 55 |
| 14 | CEDARBERG | Pat Carey | Glyn Schofield | 6 | 56.5 | | 63 |
| 15 | KEEP THE PEACE (NZ) | Shaune Ritchie | Jason Waddell | 10 | 54.5 | | 95 |
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Elvstroem
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 2010-Apr-02, 12:29 PM
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Zabrasive. Might be the next Maldivian.
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 2010-Apr-02, 12:35 PM
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Might be the next Dignity Dancer or Grand Zulu as well 
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 2010-Apr-04, 04:54 PM
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TAB Sportsbet Fixed Odds past 3 weeks
Sportsbet No. Runner Win 82108 ZABRASIVE 9.50 4.00 3.60 82087 ROCK CLASSIC 9.00 7.00 6.00 82095 SHOOT OUT 5.00 9.00 8.00 82064 HANKS 11.00 11.00 11.00 82054 DESCARADO NA NA 11.00 82080 MILITARY MOVE 13.00 15.00 15.00 82063 HANDSOME ZULU 13.00 15.00 15.00 82052 COUNT ENCOSTA NA NA 17.00 82041 AL DHAFRA 13.00 17.00 21.00 (Doubtful) 82082 MONACO CONSUL 17.00 21.00 21.00 82098 SPACECRAFT 17.00 17.00 26.00 82070 KIDNAPPED 13.00 13.00 26.00
Now over 25-1....
82060 EXTRA ZERO 15.00 17.00 35.00 82083 NOVEMBER RAIN 17.00 21.00 35.00 82062 GATHERING 26.00 35.00 41.00 82097 SIR HALLOWELL 26.00 35.00 51.00 82051 COSMOCRAT 17.00 21.00 51.00 82099 SPEEDY NATALIE 26.00 35.00 71.00
Off the list....
82061 FAINT PERFUME 8.00 7.00 NQ 82045 CAPTAIN SONADOR 13.00 17.00 NQ 82092 SET FOR FAME 13.00 17.00 NQ
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 2010-Apr-04, 09:47 PM
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Sherpa Tenzing looked good first up on the weekend - wonder if they'll head to Syd or Adel.
He walking up as we speak.
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Steve M
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 2010-Apr-04, 09:51 PM
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Could be carried by a Sherpa and still couldn't make the barrier in time. Principally because he wont be running.
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Steve M
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 2010-Apr-05, 03:50 PM
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Hang on. So he is Authorized - thanks for the info I actually think he's a stayer of promise - but probably too dour for this class. Could see him running on into 4th or 5th though - reminds me of Moatize at the sametime. SA/Qld Derbies could be his go. Ends up being quite an interesting race if the NZ Oaks winner and NZ Derby placegetter line up.
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 2010-Apr-05, 04:18 PM
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Sherpa $51 on NSW TAB Fixed odds atm.
Not even on the Betfair list (857%!)
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 2010-Apr-08, 06:51 PM
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Good early money for the NZ Oaks winner Keep the Peace. Looks like she gets back in her races and runs on.
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 2010-Apr-08, 07:13 PM
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well someone said on the Rosehill Guineas thread that Shoot Out needs a soft track...well i agree and he is certain to get it. i am sticking!
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 2010-Apr-08, 08:25 PM
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I think something raw might bob up for a placing, Landlocked ($15) the one I 'm looking at, looks like he will keep going and going. Another Zab too.
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 2010-Apr-09, 08:54 AM
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There will be worse bets than Bart's second stringer for the place.
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 2010-Apr-09, 09:10 AM
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Sherpa wouldn't be a bad place speculation I think.
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 2010-Apr-10, 10:21 AM
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I am a huge fan of Rock Classic as a race horse but he is a Fastnet Rock and was caught fair and square last time by a Zabeel. How will he turn the tides over an additional 400M? I've still taken him as a leg of the pick 6 and quaddie for no other reason than if anyone can make a sprinter run 2400 (or 3200) it is the King.
Fillies don't win Derbies and certainly not one from New Zealand. Keep the Pace won't beat home the good Colts but she may well run a place.
Shoot Out beat second rate runners home in the Guineas. The form race was the Guineas at Flemington as we saw the other week. Won't run a place and I doubt will even beat Keep the Pace home.
For mine, Zabrasive is the one to beat. That said, I wouldn't be discounting Count Encosta, nor Descarado and think the winner will certainly come from those three.
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 2010-Apr-10, 10:53 AM
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a high chaparral trifecta
count encosta also looks value
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 2010-Apr-10, 11:45 AM
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The more I look the more I think the race is devoid of too many chances. Rock Classic Shoot Out Zabrasive Count Encosta I think Zabrasive could be a risk, while he is an out and out stayer, Derby winners normally have a turn of foot, something this bloke doesn't seem to have  I'll save on him but going to play around with the other 3 for a result.
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