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O.P. « 2018-Jun-10, 02:02 PM »

Unnamed  
Kingman (GB)
Bay 2011
Invincible Spirit
Bay 1997
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Rafha
Bay 1987
Kris
Chestnut 1976
Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure
1969
1971
5-i
2-o
Eljazzi
Bay 1981
Artaius
Border Bounty
1974
1965
14-c
7-a
Zenda
Bay 1999
Zamindar
Bay 1994
Gone West
Bay 1984
Mr Prospector
Secrettame
1970
1978
13-c
2-f
Zaizafon
Chestnut 1982
The Minstrel
Mofida
1974
1974
8-f
9-e
Hope
Bay 1991
Dancing Brave
Bay 1983
Lyphard
Navajo Princess
1969
1974
17-b
3-d
Bahamian
Chestnut 1985
Mill Reef
Sorbus
1968
1975
22-d
19>
Helleborine (GB)
Bay 2008
Observatory
Chestnut 1997
Distant View
Chestnut 1991
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Seven Springs
Chestnut 1982
Irish River
La Trinite
1976
1976
1-w
16-a
Stellaria
Chestnut 1986
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Bramalea
1958
1959
4-n
12-c
Victoria Star
Chestnut 1972
Northern Dancer
Solometeor
1961
1965
2-d
4-j
New Orchid
Bay 2000
Quest for Fame
Bay or brown 1987
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
I Will Follow
1974
1975
22-d
14-f
Aryenne
Bay 1977
Green Dancer
Americaine
1972
1968
16-c
4-i
Musicanti
Bay 1991
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Populi
Bay or brown 1975
Star Envoy
Sister Shannon
1968
1965
8-f
4-f
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5f,5m Mr Prospector5m x 4m



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« 2018-Jun-10, 07:37 PM Reply #1 »

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« 2018-Jun-10, 10:47 PM Reply #2 »
The estimable Professor Hindsight has given him a big historical tick.

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« 2018-Jun-18, 02:22 PM Reply #3 »
11/4 second fav in tomorrow night's 24 runner Coventry Stakes.

A O'Brien's very highly regarded Sergei Prokofiev is the marker leader.

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« 2018-Jun-18, 02:33 PM Reply #4 »
I am very concerned about Burj and Cosmic Law, I doubt the favourite will stay the 6 furlongs in a high pressure race.


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« 2018-Jun-21, 08:13 PM Reply #5 »
Geez he's an impressive type.


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« 2018-Aug-02, 09:45 AM Reply #7 »
Most unfortunate for connections and the racing public.

I was looking forward to seeing him at Deauville.

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« 2019-Apr-24, 04:39 PM Reply #8 »

Calyx team poised to make Guineas decision

Newmarket still a possible option for John Gosden-trained colt


A decision on Calyx’s participation in the Qipco 2000 Guineas is likely to be made at the end of this week.

Last seen when blitzing the field in the Coventry Stakes at Royal Ascot, trainer John Gosden had seemed cool on the idea of taking him straight to the Classic.

However, since Gosden ruled ante-post favourite Too Darn Hot out of the race, Calyx has come in for some strong support and is now as low as 6-1 in some places for the Guineas.

Teddy Grimthorpe, racing manager to owner Khalid Abdullah, said: “There’s been no change one way or the other – we’ve always been trying to get him there and whoever else runs or doesn’t won’t affect the decision.

“Obviously the concern is that he’s had a long lay-off and an injury. He hasn’t run since Royal Ascot, so we want to be happy that he is in great shape to do himself justice in the 2000 Guineas.

“From that point of view, there has never been any change. The horse himself is in good form and we’ll probably have to make a decision by the end of this week I would think.

“It’s never been a question of who goes or who doesn’t, we’ve always had tremendous faith in the horse, so it’s all about getting him to the race in the best possible form.

“It was frustrating last year given how the Coventry worked out, but we wouldn’t have swapped the Coventry. The way the race has panned out, it looked a strong renewal.”


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« 2019-Apr-26, 09:46 PM Reply #9 »
No 2000 Guineas for Calyx.

Goes to Ascot on Wednesday for a 6f G3 instead.

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« 2019-May-01, 07:59 PM Reply #10 »
Faces 6 opponents this evening. Currently 4/7.

No penalty kick, as Signora Cabello runs too. She won at Royal Ascot last year, and ran 2nd in the G1 Prix Morny at Deauville.

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« 2019-May-02, 01:01 AM Reply #11 »
FREAK

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« 2019-May-02, 09:14 AM Reply #12 »
That was impressive.

Now 6/4 for the Commonwealth Cup in 6 weeks' time.

Frankie says he's a sprinter, but I can't help thinking that that acceleration would win him most 2000 Guineas.

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« 2019-May-02, 10:23 AM Reply #13 »
FREAK

Yep, impressive and I appreciate you want to label it but surely that’s way over the top.   :biggrin:

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« 2019-May-02, 10:28 AM Reply #14 »
Auhiorized.

Over the top?

Gettouttahere.

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« 2019-May-02, 10:41 AM Reply #15 »
Especially over a 6 horse pommy 3yo field  :biggrin:

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« 2019-May-02, 01:34 PM Reply #16 »
That is down playing him.


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« 2019-May-02, 08:24 PM Reply #17 »

Sectional Spotlight

Sectional timing expert Simon Rowlands has run the rule over Calyx’s victory in the Commonwealth Cup Trial at Ascot and has a selection online for Newcastle on Friday.


As a wise man once observed, “the times they are a-changing”. Where once the speed shown by a horse within a race was something to be guessed at, now it is often a matter of fact, over which analysts can pore should they choose. 

Total Performance Data has led the way in Britain in recent years, with by-furlong sectionals for individual horses at an increasing number of tracks, extensive details of which may be found in the Results Section of this site.

Other bodies, and other courses, are showing an increased interest, some prompted by the BHA’s recent indication of its support for sectional timing more widely. Meanwhile, Ascot racecourse has quietly been getting on with the task of developing and deploying a Longines-backed system based on GPS technology. 

Not many of Ascot’s sectionals have been made public, other than live and on-screen for those at the course, but they shared with me some figures from their Royal Ascot Trials Day on Wednesday, when the understanding of many of the performances would benefit from precisely this kind of additional depth. 

Perhaps most interesting of all was the performance of CALYX  in winning the Merriebelle Stable Commonwealth Cup Trial. Visuals scream of how mightily impressive the unbeaten colt was, but can this be captured in numbers? 

First, however, a word on Calyx’s overall time for the straight 6f. There was, apparently, a malfunction of the official timing mechanism, meaning that some sources quoted a hand time. Hand times are usually about 0.3s too fast, due to the slowness of human reactions.

It is easy enough to validate all the overall times on the card from video analysis, a process which shows that Calyx ran 1m 12.55s, give or take a few hundredths of a second. Matching that with Ascot’s late sectionals gives the following horse-by-horse breakdown. 

Calyx trial sectionals

That 11.17s penultimate furlong from Calyx tore the field apart, and was between 0.27s (nearly 2 lengths) and 0.51s (approaching 4 lengths) faster than any other runner managed at that stage. He continued to pour it on in the final furlong, winning by a long 4 lengths, despite being eased near the line. 

Those finishing speed %s are the individual horses’ speed in the last quarter of a mile expressed as a % of their average speed for the race overall. Figures of 100% or more are faster-than-par for this course and distance and mean that an already smart time for Calyx gets upgraded to a genuinely high-class figure. 

Calyx is as short as 7/4 for the Commonwealth Cup itself, on 21 June, and that looks justified. His sectional rating of 122 would have won him the 2016 and 2018 editions (but not the 2015 and 2017 ones won by Muhaarar and Caravaggio). 

Calyx is more than a little reminiscent of his sire, Kingman, who won races at a mile with a blistering turn of foot but who came unstuck in the only such contest that was strongly-run and therefore a proper test (the 2000 Guineas at Newmarket). 

By way of comparison, Kingman completed his last two furlongs in the St James’s Palace Stakes at Ascot – the only time he ran at the course – in 10.90s then 11.07s according to video analysis on admittedly firmer ground but at the end of 8f rather than 6f.

Kingman was a fast strider and peaked at 2.50 strides/second in that remarkably quick penultimate furlong. Calyx has consistently peaked at either 2.47 or 2.48 (including this week), which is very similar. 

Connections chose to swerve the 2000 Guineas with Calyx, and look to have been right. He may end up trying a mile, like his sire, and may even get away with it in a steadily-run race on top-of-the-ground. But speed is his forte, and speed was evident in abundance on Wednesday. 

That is what the visuals said, and that is what the sectionals confirmed. 


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« 2019-May-26, 12:26 AM Reply #18 »
About to jump at 2/11 in a 4 runner G2 at Haydock.

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« 2019-May-26, 12:29 AM Reply #19 »
And slaughtered by a decent G2/3 horse in Hello Youmzain.

Won't be winning the Commonwealth Cup on that effort.

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« 2019-May-26, 12:48 AM Reply #20 »
If he runs he wins.

Gosden in questionable form.

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« 2019-May-26, 01:09 AM Reply #21 »
If he runs he wins.

Gosden in questionable form.

J H M Gosden says he could see the horse was uncomfortable on the ground.

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« 2019-Aug-01, 04:01 AM Reply #22 »
Retired to Coolmore.


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