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O.P. « 2017-Mar-21, 10:04 AM »
Japanese runners going around this weekend.

(Horse - Trainer - Jockey)
World Cup
Awardee - Matsunaga - Take
Lani - Matsugana - Moore
Apollo Kentucky - Yamauchi - Lemaire
Gold Dream - Hirata - Moreira

Turf
Vivos - Tomomichi - Moreira
Real Steel - Yahagi - Moore

Sheema Classic
Sounds of Earth - Fujioka - Lemaire

Godolphin Mile
Kafuji Take - Yukubo -  :censored: unaga

UAE Derby
Epicharis - Hagiwara - Lemaire
Adirato - Sugai - Take

Golden Shaheen
Dios Corrida - Takahashi - Foley

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« 2017-Mar-21, 07:55 PM Reply #1 »
Japanese runners going around this weekend.

(Horse - Trainer - Jockey)
World Cup
Awardee - Matsunaga - Take
Lani - Matsugana - Moore
Apollo Kentucky - Yamauchi - Lemaire
Gold Dream - Hirata - Moreira

Turf
Vivos - Tomomichi - Moreira
Real Steel - Yahagi - Moore

Sheema Classic
Sounds of Earth - Fujioka - Lemaire

Godolphin Mile
Kafuji Take - Yukubo -  :censored: unaga

UAE Derby
Epicharis - Hagiwara - Lemaire
Adirato - Sugai - Take

Golden Shaheen
Dios Corrida - Takahashi - Foley

Thoughts?

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« 2017-Mar-21, 10:56 PM Reply #2 »
Thoughts?
Need to talk to my on the ground contact but atm only 3 place bets. Gold Dream  Real Steel and Sounds of Earth.

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« 2017-Mar-22, 03:13 AM Reply #3 »
Betfair have posted some Timeform tips.

https://betting.betfair.com/horse-racing/horseracing-tips/timeform-dubai-smartplays-saturday-march-26-250316-143.html

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Duramente - Meydan 16:20

Duramente won two legs of the Japanese Triple Crown last year, and though injury curtailed a potential Arc bid, he returned to win a very competitive Group 2 in his native country last month. That victory came over nine furlongs, but Duramente has already proven himself over this twelve-furlong trip when winning the Japanese Derby last May. He can give Japan a second Dubai Sheema Classic in three years following Gentildonna's win in 2014. Last year's King George winner Postponed was very impressive in the trial and could prove Duramente's main threat, ahead of Highland Reel.

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« 2017-Mar-22, 07:54 AM Reply #4 »
Betfair have posted some Timeform tips.

https://betting.betfair.com/horse-racing/horseracing-tips/timeform-dubai-smartplays-saturday-march-26-250316-143.html

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Duramente - Meydan 16:20

Duramente won two legs of the Japanese Triple Crown last year, and though injury curtailed a potential Arc bid, he returned to win a very competitive Group 2 in his native country last month. That victory came over nine furlongs, but Duramente has already proven himself over this twelve-furlong trip when winning the Japanese Derby last May. He can give Japan a second Dubai Sheema Classic in three years following Gentildonna's win in 2014. Last year's King George winner Postponed was very impressive in the trial and could prove Duramente's main threat, ahead of Highland Reel.
This article is 2016.

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« 2017-Mar-22, 07:56 AM Reply #5 »
Real Steel wont run. Nose bleed.
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« 2017-Mar-22, 11:42 AM Reply #6 »
Real Steel wont run. Nose bleed.
So Epicharis would be my next best.

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« 2017-Mar-22, 07:28 PM Reply #7 »
It seems all in Dubai with the contingent feel Lani looks better than he has ever looked but his pattern getting back even with Moore on board does not appeal to me.
I will stick with my 3 in an allup place bet but will take a small all up on the win with them as well.
Epicharis, Sounds of Earth and Gold Dream.

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« 2017-Mar-22, 11:51 PM Reply #8 »

Superstar Arrogate ready to strike it rich again on Cup night

Arrogate is looking at securing another huge payday on Saturday when he will be red-hot favourite for the second richest race in the world, the Dubai World Cup.

The world champion has a whopping 16lb in hand on RPRs for the Meydan feature, so if everything runs to form he should be looking at a winning margin of around eight lengths.

At 2-5 heís not much of a price, but itís hard to envisage any of his rivals having the ammunition to get anywhere near the 136-rated superstar in a clean race and punters are effectively betting on whether the favourite runs his race or not.

As the next best on RPRs, Gun Runner (120) could be the one for the forecast, although Mubtaahij (118) has proven form at the track having produced his best three performances at Meydan. Those include a win in the UAE Derby and a second place in last yearís World Cup.

Postponed (126) is another big name in action on World Cup night when he bids to follow up last yearís win in the Dubai Sheema Classic.

He could finish only second behind Prize Money (117) on his return at Meydan last month, although he met trouble in running and it was being used a prep for the big day, so he should step forward.

Highland Reel (124) is next best behind Postponed on the figures. He finished fourth in last yearís Sheema Classic and was behind Postponed in the Juddmonte International, but he did finish ahead of Roger Varianís star in the Prix de líArc de Triomphe later in the campaign.

The Irish globetrotter is a solid 120s performer and should give his running, although Aidan OíBrienís horses arenít known for hitting their peak this early in the year.

Jack Hobbs (122) and Seventh Heaven (121) are also potential winners on the figures, but neither have run since last year, so at the prices it could pay to side with Prize Money each-way. Heís tough, fit and raring to go.

There is more European interest in the Dubai Turf, in which Richard Faheyís Ribchester (124) tops the ratings.

The four-year-old enjoyed a fantastic run of form last year, finishing a tight third in the Sussex Stakes behind The Gurkha and Galileo Gold before winning the Prix Jacques le Marois and then staying on for second behind Minding in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes.

Zarak, trained by Alain de Royer-Dupre, is currently favourite after landing a Group 3 at Meydan last month with a career-best RPR of 118, but he will need to improve again to match the ten-year average for winners of the Dubai Turf, which stands at 124.1.

Ribchester hasnít had the benefit of a prep run but might just hold a class edge.

The Al Quoz Sprint features a fascinating clash between Dubai speedball Ertijaal (123) and European champion sprinter Limato (126).

Limato appears best at 7f, whereas Ertijaal is a 5f specialist, so a meeting between the two over 6f should make things interesting.

As with the Sheema Classic, the result could come down to course form and match fitness, which would give Ertijaal the edge provided he can stretch his speed out over the extra furlong.

American trainers have a terrific record in the big sprint on the dirt on World Cup night, the Golden Shaheen, and Mind Your Biscuits (120) leads another strong challenge.


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« 2017-Mar-23, 10:21 AM Reply #9 »
Ribchester's my banker for the evening.

He can go fiercely early, which is perhaps a concern fresh up over the 9f, but I'm rather hoping he might get to the next level this season, and be the top miler/mile and a quarter horse in Europe.

Plus whatever specialweek tips.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 07:13 PM Reply #10 »
Been raining since yesterday.

Japanese horse info.

Kafuji Take OK wet, Sounds of Earth no wet track history, Vivlos No wet track history, Adirato OK, Epicharis No wet form, Awardee OK, Apollo Kentucky OK, Gold Dream OK, Lani made up ground in muddy in US, Dios Corrida rain affected OK.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 07:28 PM Reply #11 »
Racing Post tipster's put Vivlos on top as his nap.

Is he on to something or has he lost his marbles?

Epicharis should be okay, as they've sealed the dirt track, which will just make it faster.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 07:40 PM Reply #12 »
Vivlos is a G1 winner but against her own sex. Not sure she is up to mixed company Int g1. Not getting my money and unknown on wet ground.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 07:49 PM Reply #13 »
This wet ground has really thrown a spanner in my works.

Highland Reel doesn't like it and they usually scratch Limato if the ground's rain affected. Not sure if, having travelled all the way to Dubai, they might be inclined to take their chances.

I suspect I've done my dough with them before the gates open.

Postponed was my big lay of the day, but he will really be helped by the ease in the ground. Unlike a number of his opponents, he likes the wet and has had a prep run, so will have a fitness edge.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 08:28 PM Reply #14 »
Adirato in the Derby is good ew bet now.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 08:41 PM Reply #15 »
Adirato in the Derby is good ew bet now.

Merci beaucoup.

Missed the 60/1, and have had to make do with 40/1 each way.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 09:24 PM Reply #16 »
My on track contact spoke to trainer about Sounds of Earth on wet ground and he is confident as he is bred to run on it. ya never know.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 09:29 PM Reply #17 »
This wet ground has really thrown a spanner in my works.

Highland Reel doesn't like it and they usually scratch Limato if the ground's rain affected. Not sure if, having travelled all the way to Dubai, they might be inclined to take their chances.

I suspect I've done my dough with them before the gates open.

Postponed was my big lay of the day, but he will really be helped by the ease in the ground. Unlike a number of his opponents, he likes the wet and has had a prep run, so will have a fitness edge.

I take it that the races where the track condition is listed as "muddy" are on dirt and those on a "yielding" track are on turf?

http://www.dubaiworldcup.com/race/racing-info/racecards?id=

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« 2017-Mar-25, 09:34 PM Reply #18 »
I take it that the races where the track condition is listed as "muddy" are on dirt and those on a "yielding" track are on turf?

http://www.dubaiworldcup.com/race/racing-info/racecards?id=

Correct.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 09:50 PM Reply #19 »
As I've observed often watching international racing, it highlights how good our own jockeys are.

Do those guys in the first have no concept of pace?

The two favourites were extremely poorly ridden.

Doesn't matter what the track conditions are if your jockey is a cowboy he is a cowboy.

Yeeeha  :whip:

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« 2017-Mar-25, 09:52 PM Reply #20 »
I take it that the races where the track condition is listed as "muddy" are on dirt and those on a "yielding" track are on turf?

http://www.dubaiworldcup.com/race/racing-info/racecards?id=

PP are you not opening each race to show what surface each race is on? Yes is  the answer.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 09:54 PM Reply #21 »
Looking at that interview with Jorge Navarro (trainer of Sharp Azteca), he is a very big bloke and he wants to rip the throat out of his jockey. If I were Mr Zayas I would be taking the first boat out of there   :lol:

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« 2017-Mar-25, 09:56 PM Reply #22 »
PP are you not opening each race to show what surface each race is on? Yes is  the answer.

Yes mate I was opening it but was missing the info....

Godolphin Mile Sponsored By Meydan Sobha

15:45 TB - Group 2 1600M(a8F) - Dirt USD 1,000,000
Weather:Rainy Track Condition:Muddy Rail Position:True


Not as sharp as I was once  :shy:

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« 2017-Mar-25, 11:23 PM Reply #23 »
Painful watch so far, with long time leaders Sharp Azteca and Beautiful Romance being run down late.

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« 2017-Mar-25, 11:34 PM Reply #24 »
Epicharis run down in the last stride.

And the hits just keep on comin'.


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