Author Topic: Hong Kong Racing Thread (Read 483116 times)

Gintara · « 2022-May-07, 03:41 PM **Reply #1725** »

Sha Tin today just to make it an interesting Saturday.

Race 3: Purton riding at 53.5kg is a sign and jumping off last start winner in Silver Express is good enough for me so going with #3 Ima Single Man who is best suited around the 1400m. $2.8

Race 6: #4 California Vanes did the donkey work to drag up the field to the leader last time and only just run over. $2.9

Race 9: #3 Erimo has the foot on the till, drawn to get a cheap run and JM on board. $2

Race 10: #1 Copartner Ambition went back of the wide draw last time, turned in last and when making a run ran out of room. Chance to sit closer and even luck will be in the finish. $4.2 save #2 Super Dynamite & #11 Oscar Glory

Good luck to those having a play.

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-09, 09:04 PM **Reply #1726** »

SEVER AUSTRALIAN CONNECTIONS WITH HONG KONG RACING?

It is a reasonable proposition to align the Australian racing industry with a national response rejecting the brutal takeover of Hong Kong.

Hong Kong's new Chief Executive John Lee seen as pro-Beijing enforcer of security law

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-09/who-is-new-hong-kong-chief-executive-john-lee/101048940

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-11, 05:30 PM **Reply #1727** »

Ghostlike: some 1000 additional 'views' on one day and not one additional posted response.

timw · « 2022-May-11, 06:06 PM **Reply #1728** »

I have no idea what Australia's official position on Hong Kong is. Do I hear the ghost of Martin Luther King talking and I was just old enough to remember his speech well. Well if I do then let me say this. In my entire lifetime I doubt a day has has passed where governments all political persuasions around the world have directly or indirectly oppressed not only their own but also those in distant lands and that includes our very own. I am not against people getting on their high horse about an issue after all this is a horse racing forum. And I am in no doubt if people didn't get on their high horse from time to time we would still be in serfdom. I suggest you write to the foreign minister and let her know your views.

Cheers

PS Martin Luther King's sentiments will still be falling on deaf ears long after I am dead.

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-11, 07:53 PM **Reply #1729** »

Leadership: a moral dilemma?

This is a matter, among others, for the Australian racing industry, among others, to deal with.

fours · « 2022-May-11, 09:28 PM **Reply #1730** »

Hmmm,

I see Chadwick is now getting Shinns previous mounts while Shinn continues to get Purtons old mounts.

The cycle continues.... as long as you keep track and pay attention...

Fours

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-11, 10:50 PM **Reply #1731** »

Strike me lucky

........ is some aside about 'jockeying for positions' a substitute for the serious issues that confront RacinQLD?

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-12, 08:09 PM **Reply #1732** »

Ill-feeling at the unhappy valley?

Gintara, offering no tips, may have had a premonition about last-night's HK racing being a 'no go' event.

https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2022-05-11/HAPPY-VALLEY/E/R/7/Win

Gintara · « 2022-May-12, 08:58 PM **Reply #1733** »

Sorry Pete, been away for the start of the week, walked in about 7pm last night and then discovered it was throwing it down so decided to keep the powder dry.

Gintara · « 2022-May-15, 10:53 AM **Reply #1734** »

Bit of rain around in HK today. Track as per a tweet from Tom Wood should be good to yielding.

Races 5 & 8 on the AW too.

nemisis · « 2022-May-15, 11:37 AM **Reply #1735** »

The pools on Happy Valley weren't co-mingled on Wed.
Is there something going on in that regard??...anybody know???

Above All (R4) was heavily backed in the last minute into $9 in HK but remained at $17 on the totes here.

Rain affected track today....I've taken $38 about Bell Of Victory in R7.
Son of El Roca who didn't show much early in HK but was ok last start .....not sure that he anywhere much to go.
Enough to like about his trial win as a 2yr old in NZ on a wet track.

sobig · « 2022-May-15, 12:12 PM **Reply #1736** »

Today's currently shows co-mingling so must have been a tech problem on Wednesday.

Gintara · « 2022-May-15, 12:54 PM **Reply #1737** »

One of those days to watch a bit and tread carefully.

IMHO best on the card is Race 7 #1 Fun N Glory, the step to 1400m is ideal and can bounce off the flat run after breaking maiden the previous. $4.40 is a good gamble.

For amusement & with Moreira suspended I've taken a Purton place multi, race 2, then 5 to 10. 7 legs all up is $195/1, also parlayed the trebles, quads, 5s and 6s

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-15, 07:29 PM **Reply #1738** »

Nothing special about HK racing -- HK is now 'special' to be avoided

'Do not tread' would be consistent with recent rough outcomes.

fours · « 2022-May-15, 07:32 PM **Reply #1739** »

Quote from: Peter Mair on 2022-May-15, 07:29 PM

Nothing special about HK racing -- HK is now 'special' to be avoided

'Do not tread' would be consistent with recent rough outcomes.

You speak only for yourself.

I am having a great night.

Fours

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-15, 07:58 PM **Reply #1740** »

.. call 'fore' before 'fours'

.................'having a great night', at HK tonight, defies reasonable credibility across the 10 races.

Gintara · « 2022-May-15, 08:01 PM **Reply #1741** »

Pete - I had 1 collect and came out in front.

I've advocated before but another example of B365 odds protector. I took $7.50 Toronado Phantom, totes ended up $8.5 (Qld $5

) and I got paid at $11 after the drift

Big difference to the bottom line.

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-15, 08:04 PM **Reply #1742** »

On the skids?

There is some reluctance to accept that HK racing is on a slippery slope

As usual in these matters, those with once-valuable stake in a game-over, will be looking to recoup their exposures on the way out.

HK racing has no future of any international relevance.

nemisis · « 2022-May-15, 08:10 PM **Reply #1743** »

Quote from: Peter Mair on 2022-May-15, 07:29 PM

Nothing special about HK racing -- HK is now 'special' to be avoided

'Do not tread' would be consistent with recent rough outcomes.

You should do yourself a favour Peter and put the time into HK racing.

There are rewards there for hard work.
Not a perfect place for a thoroughbred but punters have all the info. they will ever need.

Most frustrating thing I find is what odds to take....I took $20 and $5 for Prosperous Win....went $25 and $7.8....beaten narrowly.
Took tote odds for Secret Vision when $30 was available with the bookies.....backed in to $11 and $3.25.

How good is clean racing....it's a good night watching the live stream.
I wasn't a big winner by any stretch, but end of night and I'm withdrawing.....you've just got to get a piece of those exotics.

nemisis · « 2022-May-15, 08:20 PM **Reply #1744** »

Quote from: Gintara on 2022-May-15, 08:01 PM

Pete - I had 1 collect and came out in front.

I've advocated before but another example of B365 odds protector. I took $7.50 Toronado Phantom, totes ended up $8.5 (Qld $5 ) and I got paid at $11 after the drift

Big difference to the bottom line.

I followed the big market push in that race....Resolute went $60 odd into $26 in the last few minutes.
I got $41 and $10..
The son of Per Incanto was just caught....$145 quinella

Popular breed over there....like softer ground generally.

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-15, 08:24 PM **Reply #1745** »

The HK racing infatuation is over and out

China-HK is not HK-HK.

The rules have changed ......... the culture is now different ........... HK racing is dying, about dead.

This is a familiar warning of a rort -- 'Resolute went $60 odd into $26 in the last few minutes'.

Who knew what? ........... what did the HK stewards do and say?

Abandon HK ......... welcome their people.

Gintara · « 2022-May-15, 08:32 PM **Reply #1746** »

Quote from: nemisis on 2022-May-15, 08:20 PM

I followed the big market push in that race....Resolute went $60 odd into $26 in the last few minutes.
I got $41 and $10..
The son of Per Incanto was just caught....$145 quinella
Popular breed over there....like softer ground generally.

I try not to get swayed by markets, prefer my own thoughts, hence why I bet early there.

Only time you really get caught is if rains or there's an on pace bias (rare)

fours · « 2022-May-15, 08:32 PM **Reply #1747** »

Quote from: Peter Mair on 2022-May-15, 08:24 PM

The HK racing infatuation is over and out

China-HK is not HK-HK.

The rules have changed ......... the culture is now different ........... HK racing is dying, about dead.

This is a familiar warning of a rort -- 'Resolute went $60 odd into $26 in the last few minutes'.

Who knew what? ........... what did the HK stewards do and say?

Abandon HK ......... welcome their people.

Available to all who bothered to look was the high ranking of the horse by R&S......

Do some FU##ING work and this wont be a mystery to you....

Fours

nemisis · « 2022-May-15, 08:37 PM **Reply #1748** »

"who knew what"?....Peter.
If you watched the live stream and listened to the conversation around Resolute...you would find some answers there.
Jenny Chapman and co gave out plenty of reasons....sometimes we can all overlook things.

Take a look at Resolutes barrier draws recently.....came out of 2 tonight.
They don't hang around in races over there.
He's the right breed for that dirt track IMO.

$60 was just the wrong price.

Peter Mair · « 2022-May-15, 09:29 PM **Reply #1749** »

............... sometimes we can all overlook things

When all overlook 'something' it suggests there was nothing evident to be seen.

It may also suggest that, when a few 'see' something that no one else does, HK racing is now so corrupted that no one was able to see a 'smokey'.

Genuinely rough results are so rare that, when they do occur routinely, the explanation is mainly to do with inflated-field congestion or confusion conducive to smoking one in.

HK racing will not survive in a not-free culture.