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Online fours

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« 2016-Dec-18, 08:43 PM Reply #25 »
Spudda,

One with zero interest would not waste their time looking at the trhead,,,,,,,

How about you start a thread you are interested in.... rather than waste everyone's time, including your own, with negativity.

Perhaps the fact that my thread is showing win profits is what really bugs you - just like before.....

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« 2016-Dec-18, 09:00 PM Reply #26 »
jfc,

I said rather early in the peace the first four bets were only provided to give people something to think about.  I have also plainly stated that I do not recommend roving bets. If you and others, like Spudda, are too thick to follow this guidance than that is your problem. My proper first four bets on these selections well exceeds Mr Woods % profit on turnover. I do not pretend to try to operate as widely as Mr Woods - there is no need to.

I also pointed out that place returns may exceed win bet returns so you can't say i have not steered people where to look for themselves IF they chose to bet on someone elses tips.

So there are no excuses for me - unlike you - who can't do anything for credibility before a race. The only persons mathematical ability demonstrably found to be wanting here is yours... time to face the reality that your memory is going as demonstrated here.

I think we all have enough of your and Spudda's negativity on this thread. you are both welcome to post positively of course.

This is a thread showing win and place profits - some people may appreciate that and desire it to continue. It wont if the negativity continues and people will know who to blame if such occurs.

If I do fall into bad losses on win and place bets I will do the negative posting pointing this out myself - unlike others I don't hide behind feeble excuses.

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« 2016-Dec-18, 09:08 PM Reply #27 »
A prediction bullshit will prevail plentiful and often on this thread ( owned by kin if you ask him )

are you referring to your spectacularly unsuccessful not one but two $1000 starting anks thread which you begged moderators to delete?

PS how did you go in the Melb Cup group tipping comp?

Feel free to go about wasting everybody's time with your unrequested advice if of course your selections overcome the exotic bet used limitations as of course showing what is insufficient is more important than making a profit - stuff me what planet are you from? None of us that frequent these forums or punt are interested in making a profit in the end are we?

don't bother tipping on the horses take your comedy routine on the road


PPS don't bother trying to tell me what i can and can't post peacock no-one will give a stuff if you discontinue posting or not - you don't hide behind feeble excuses you have threads deleted

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« 2016-Dec-18, 09:25 PM Reply #28 »
Spudda,

The thread was deleted due to excessive trolling behaviour which when denied by the poster a moderator insisted in bold type that the poster was in fact trolling.

So enough rubbish from you on this point.

By the way possibly the dumbest thing ever said on this entire froum was your suggestion that i would use variance as an excuse. It is in fact the source of my profits.

Pegasyber pointed out a few times that good profits were being shown on the individual selections if one chose to do win or place bets. If you refuse to think for yourself about first four bet improvements to what i was prepared to show than thats simply tough luck for you. I dont spoon feed non thinkers or lazy types.

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« 2016-Dec-19, 08:01 AM Reply #29 »
Early on I asked you what you meant by variance.

You failed to give a sensible answer.

And off you went waffling about variance ad nauseam.

The fact is when you are scratching for a word in any number of different contexts you trot it out again.

It is complete bunkum.

You are so weak at maths that you can't spot the real mathematical reason explaining the phenomenon.

You spew out your malevolent crap because you think you can get away with it.

Just keep thinking that.



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« 2016-Dec-19, 09:45 AM Reply #30 »
jfc,

I use the term 'variance' in the fashion I do as it covers all contexts for punting in terms of what can alter a punters return. It includes psychological realities  in addition to mathematical realities. Sorry if this leaves you out of your depth.

Bookmakers price favourites in order to give punters some winning days while slowly but surely taking their money. They rely on both psychology and mathematics to stay in business. Variance does the job for them as most punters, no 98% plus of them,  are not on top of variance.

It is a new context which is why you struggle with it as you insist on sticking to narrow definitions used in other arena's. Your problem and not mine.

I don't want the moderators to have to put up with the negativity engendered by my threads so this is my last post here.

I am more than happy for this thread to stay as is BUt if an idiot like Ascot starts tipping their losing tips on this thread yes I will ask to have it removed to due to the abuse and not because of the thread itself and my posts. Spudda tries to recreate history when in fact my profits or losses were fully disclosed at all times, as they are now.There was no hiding at all.  It is Spudda trying to hide from the actual truth and why is his problem and not mine.

To those lurking I would say that developing exotics is a worhtwhile exercise. The very modest win and place bet profits on the selections here is dwarfed by that of properly constructed exotic bets. If you do a lazy job ( ie just box or do a single rover ( only one step up )) than expect to lose as shown here. BUT if time is put into it ( years by me ) than on the same races you were losing on profits way beyond conventionally thought possible are possible.

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« 2016-Dec-19, 11:11 AM Reply #31 »

I am in the process of revealing a superior algorithm to that of Alan Woods and his overrated professors.


Ok at last something of real value...

jfc I will take anything you have that improves on what Woods and Benter did.  Where and when for the reveal??

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« 2016-Dec-19, 01:45 PM Reply #32 »
Ok at last something of real value...

jfc I will take anything you have that improves on what Woods and Benter did.  Where and when for the reveal??

bascoe
It's on the original thread.

The problem is that you failed to demonstrate adequate maths skills.

It's not hard and will benefit you forever.

If there's some function you did not understand like HARMEAN go and learn it.

Revisit this when you've grasped the basics.

I'm not planning to go anywhere.

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« 2016-Dec-19, 02:03 PM Reply #33 »
Bascoe has given you enough wraps surely you can just answer his bloody questions.

   

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« 2016-Dec-19, 02:21 PM Reply #34 »
Bascoe has given you enough wraps surely you can just answer his bloody questions.

 
What about your vow to stay away!

I gave him the answer already.

But it's no use to him because the maths is currently beyond him.

Nor to you evidently.

So honour your oath.


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« 2016-Dec-19, 02:36 PM Reply #35 »
I've given no oath.

I said I had a good mind to................

Luckily for you I've relented.

It must be your day.

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« 2016-Dec-20, 05:22 AM Reply #36 »
FZ is going to a massive effort to sabotage the Soap Box. Placing great strain on his wanking arm.

And you are trying to sabotage the whole forum.

Your trademark output is rarely on topic and rarely funny.

Why would any quality contributor stay here or come here, when he can expect you to waste their time!


Someone is providing this free forum at considerable expense to himself.

But you are so up yourself that does not concern you.




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« 2016-Dec-20, 07:42 AM Reply #37 »
quality contributor


And who, might I ask, do you have in mind?


Online jfc

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« 2016-Dec-20, 07:47 AM Reply #38 »
People who have left or are deterred from joining.

Guess you just can't help yourself.

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« 2016-Dec-20, 09:21 AM Reply #39 »
Now let me get this straight:-

You believe a major reason for quality contributors leaving the forum and for other quality contributors not joining the forum is my contributions to various threads on the forum.




 

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« 2016-Dec-20, 09:36 AM Reply #40 »
jfc,

It's okay jfc.. I will hang around a while longer..... ;)

just no threads showig win and place profit tips from me anymore.

Fours

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« 2016-Dec-20, 03:08 PM Reply #41 »
Now let me get this straight:-

You believe a major reason for quality contributors leaving the forum and for other quality contributors not joining the forum is my contributions to various threads on the forum.
I certainly don't consider your twaddle contributions.

But, an emphatic yes!

How could you even think otherwise!

Along with many others.

But you predominate.

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« 2016-Dec-20, 07:19 PM Reply #42 »
and here I was thinking otherwise.

It just shows how one can delude oneself, doesn't it?


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« 2016-Dec-21, 07:19 AM Reply #43 »
Typical of your tedious modus operandi.

You barge in somewhere inappropriate and try to disrupt proceedings.

And when someone objects you drag this on and on and n.

When there's no way you can turn your resort to vague insults.

All because you think you can get away with it.

Now why would a quality contributor bother coming in to your parlour!

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« 2016-Dec-21, 07:43 AM Reply #44 »
Typical of your tedious modus operandi.

You barge in somewhere inappropriate and try to disrupt proceedings.

And when someone objects you drag this on and on and n.

When there's no way you can turn your resort to vague insults.

All because you think you can get away with it.

Now why would a quality contributor bother coming in to your parlour!

So I barge in and disrupt another's thread, eh?

Pots and kettles.

Try reading your own quality contribution to this thread initiated by fours.


 

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« 2016-Dec-21, 08:12 AM Reply #45 »
More of your tiresome diatribe.

Fours urged me to visit the thread.

My initial question was valid.

He could have replied in a civil manner.

That's hardly his style.

Your claims that I barged in and disrupted is an utter lie.

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« 2016-Dec-21, 08:33 AM Reply #46 »
jfc,

Infecting and troling my thread are we?

With rubbish as well I might add.

Stats from this weekend are yet to be added to the header - so try and get it right ... a challenge for you I know.

By the way jfc any idiot can claim after the race results.... THIS THREAD provides before the race tips. Something else a little too hard for you to do.

Accordingly jfc you are out of your depth here so go back to where you belong.

Fours

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« 2016-Dec-21, 01:31 PM Reply #47 »
As if your posts weren't deranged enough already.

Why actually quote fours' garbage!

I have already told you he invited me here.

And my question is valid.

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« 2016-Dec-21, 01:48 PM Reply #48 »
So he invited you to "troll my thread"?

Things are getting curiouser and curiouser. 

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« 2016-Dec-21, 02:35 PM Reply #49 »
So he invited you to "troll my thread"?

Things are getting curiouser and curiouser.
I didn't troll the thread.

Fours' repertoire is abundant with mendacity.




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