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O.P. « 2007-Jun-13, 07:33 PM »
Royal Ascot 2007

Time to focus on all things Royal Ascot. I've been previewing the fields for a few months now and am chomping on the bit waiting for the gates to open. The Aussies are here in force and William Hill is prepared to take them on.

William Hill: 10-11 An Australian-trained horse to win one of either the King's Stand/Golden Jubilee

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« 2007-Jun-13, 10:19 PM Reply #1 »
Hi Hillbilly
Am looking forward to all the winners and news, go for it son.

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« 2007-Jun-13, 10:26 PM Reply #2 »
Founded in 1711, Royal Ascot is worlds most famous horse race meeting and attracts thousands of people each year from all over the world. Royal Ascot is internationally known as a magnificent sporting and social occasion, where tradition, pageantry and style all meet in a glorious setting.

In 2003, the most exciting horse race event of the year, attracted more than 300,000 attendants to the racecourse. The Royal Ascot week is a five-day meeting, held in June at Royal Ascot Meadow Village.

In addition, Royal Ascot is one of the most prestigious and famous horseracing events, where top class racing is combined with tradition, pageantry and style, giving the visitors a unique experience they will never forget.
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« 2007-Jun-13, 10:46 PM Reply #3 »
All set Westie. Let's begin by taking a look at the opposition to the Aussies in the King's Stand. Amadeus Wolf bypasses the race for the Golden Jubilee.



Benbaun - Takeover Target saw him off last year. They think he has improved and he did look a little stronger than ever before when first up this season.

Dandy Man - Needs it firm and loses a length or three on soft ground. A real hope with a good draw on fast ground. Should have won the race last year.

Desert Lord - Speed machine who made it to Gr1 level last year but I fancy others in a tough uphill finish.

Les Arcs - Stable is in horrible form with a virus.

Moss Vale - Always finds it tough in large fields.

Tax Free - Has had things go his way of late. Looks outclassed when the big guns are firing.

Enticing - Very speedy 3yo filly who will find things much tougher here. Trainer thought enough of her to take on the older horses at two.

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« 2007-Jun-14, 05:12 AM Reply #4 »
Is william hill a bookie ?
 
Do you like the chances of the Aussies Hilly, and will you be going ?

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« 2007-Jun-14, 06:18 PM Reply #5 »
Yes mate William Hill is one of the biggest bookie firms on the planet. http://www.willhill.com/iibs/EN/sportsbook.asp
 
The barrier draw will be important as will the weather. Quite heavy rain overnight but clearing again now. I think Miss Andretti has an outstanding chance in the King's Stand and the others will be very hard to beat in the Golden Jubilee.
 
I wont be there - too much of a social outing - I get more info and significantly better trading from my office.

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« 2007-Jun-17, 12:16 AM Reply #6 »
Some very heavy showers here in the UK over the last 48 hrs or so. Which one of the Aussie quartet would be most favoured on a bog track folks? Who would it hurt?

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« 2007-Jun-17, 07:55 PM Reply #7 »
Not sure hilly, but i know Takeover doesn't mid the sting out of the ground , but , not sure about heavy.

I will go do a quick check of their form at www.expertform.com.au

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Bentley Biscuit 1 from 1 on a heavy
Takeover Target 1 go on slow for 3rd beaten 4.1l
miss andretti 2 wins on a slow, and 6th beaten 5.4l in the same race T.T ran 3rd on a heavy
Magnus 1 go 1 win on a slow , werribe maiden, but beat california dane
 
So i am still none the wiser
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« 2007-Jun-17, 10:45 PM Reply #8 »
Not much more rain yet. May only have avoided any watering. Wait and see at this stage.

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« 2007-Jun-19, 04:13 PM Reply #9 »


R2 E 300.000 G2 KING'S STAND 1000m 16.05

The 1000 probably suits Miss Andretti better than most & she has to be the top pick of the Oz Quartet.
Takeover Targets been here before & that will count for a lot.Bentley Biscuit cannot be ruled out but will be even better suited by the Golden Jubilee.Magnus is the sleeper,a real up & coming sprinter in good hands wouldn`t be surprised if he upset his more fancied antipodians.


1   BENBAUN* 59 P.J.Smullen 5
2   BENTLEY BISCUIT 59 Nash Rawiller 3
3   DANDY MAN 59 P.Shanahan 1
4   DESERT LORD* 59 N.Callan 20
5   GREEN MANALISHI 59 T.E.Durcan 21
6   KING ORCHISIOS 59 D.O'donohoe 6
7   MAGNUS* 59 D.M.Oliver 17
8   MATSUNOSUKE 59 J.Murtagh 8
9   MOORHOUSE LAD 59 T.Eaves 18
10 MOSS VALE 59 L.Dettori 11
11 PIVOTAL POINT 59 S.Sanders 4
12 TAKEOVER TARGET 59 J.Ford 14
13 TAX FREE 59 A.Nicholls 7
14 THE TATLING 59 D.Holland 15
15 MANZILA 57˝ O.Peslier 2
16 MISS ANDRETTI 57˝ C.Newitt 19
17 CONQUEST* 56 J.H.Bowman 9
18 DAZED AND AMAZED 56 R.Hughes 16
19 HAMOODY 56 J.Fortune 13
20 BEAUTY IS TRUTH* 55 T.Thulliez 10
21 ENTICING 55 J.P.Spencer 12
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« 2007-Jun-19, 05:55 PM Reply #10 »
Looking forward to this meeting tonight.
 
Can George Washington make a successful return in the Queen Anne ?
 
I think TT can do it again too .....

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« 2007-Jun-19, 06:20 PM Reply #11 »
What time does the King Stand start ?

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« 2007-Jun-19, 06:24 PM Reply #12 »
12.05am

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« 2007-Jun-19, 07:00 PM Reply #13 »
Welcome to day one for Ascot 2007. A long week ahead and hopefully plenty of winners in store. A special mention to my old mate Acclamation who has nine entries in the 2yo races this week. Not bad for a first season sire. I see a long queue forming at the gates of Rathbary Stud.

Ok let's get on with the show.
Coventry Stakes
A good little race and probably the one contest this week that I've spent most time on. Tracey Collins will be looking to pull off an early double with Pencil Hill and Dandy Man. She has a very good chance of achieving her aim too. Pencil Hill has been most impressive and able to overcome difficulties at his first two outings. A real little pro who should go on with the job here. Yem Kinn was bred by Frankie Dettori and looked pretty good first time out. The form around his has received a few boosts since as well. An outside chance for Aussie Hugh Bowman. Luck Money is the other local who looked very impressive on debut. The time was ok and the form is looking fair. Henrythenavigator was clearly superior to his rivals in Ireland. That form has been franked but the concern surrounds the seven furlong trip of that Maiden victory. He had everything covered a long way out that day though. Declaration Of War has the runs on the board. He remains sound enough to face the starter here and is clearly hard to beat on the formbook. Should have improved again from his latest outing ( carted wide and settled towards the rear ) and looks very hard to beat today. The quicker the pace probably the better. First starter Ernie Owl creates a little interest. Not a stable known for killing their 2yo's. One look at the owners papers probably tells the story. He likes a day out. I have a very narrow margin between the top three rated Pencil Hill, Henrythenavigator and Declaration Of War. The draw may well prove to favour the latter.
King's Stand
Rumours aboud regarding the wellbeing of Miss Andretti. Newmarket watchers have been most impressed with Bentley Biscuit. Of the locals Enticing is too short for mine and has barely proven any advantage over fellow 3yo Beauty Is Truth let alone the older horses. The younger brigade should struggle for mine and the French filly may prove best of them. The leading three year old spinter in the UK is not engaged. Dandy Man may be ok on the ground but no doubt he'd have liked it a little firmer. He had others covered at three when in receipt of the weight allowance. That advantage has not been proven so far this season now that the playing field has levelled out. I really liked the Tracey Collins trained colt last year and he was drawn the wrong side that day. Should get a clear run from gate one this afternoon. He's a much better chance than Enticing for mine. Tax Free has looked fair in lesser races but has come up short in big contests often enough to bypass here. Desert Lord is a speed machine but his high draw and the stiff Ascot finish are not in his favour. Pivotal Point raced keenly first up and may need one more to get him right. He went close last year and is far from hopeless. The local that really looks to have stepped up is Benbaun. Has improved since his narrow defeat last year and will be the hardest England based runner to beat. Of the Aussies there's no doubt that the draw will be tricky for Miss Andretti ( and Magnus ). Connections are bound to be in a few minds as to which direction they should chose. With speedster Desert Lord drawn next to them the decision is easy for mine - follow the lead horse. Over the years low draws have a significant advantage. That benefit was even greater last year. The course was new then though and has raced fairly evenly since. Bentley Biscuit and Takeover Target look best suited by the draw. A thrilling contest awaits.
St James's Palace Stakes
Cockney Rebel at a short quote here and at first glance probably deserves to go off an odds on chance. Has proven his superiority to this bunch and looks to have them covered again. The only problem today though looks to be a leader. There is no certain pacemaker and therefore no likely early speed in the contest. No surprise to see the favourite odds against under those circumstances. The pair probably most favoured under the circumstances are Creachadoir ( who may dictate ) and Excellent Art ( sprinters turn of foot ). I suspect that Dutch Art may pull hard if the pace is poor early putting paid to his chances as per the race at Newbury early in the season. If he can settle a slow pace may suit him too. Racing fiercly is more likely for mine. There's no doubt that Excellent Art should have gone very close in the French Guineas. A spastic ride by Jamie Spencer that day and he surprisingly gets a chance to redeem himself. The same connections sold both Dutch Art and Excellent Art as 2yo's. Cockney Rebel should beat the pair again though.
Queen Anne Stakes
A really good little field here with the return of George Washington the obvious highlight. The likelihood of him playing up makes George a difficult betting proposition. His case may be helped by the fact that Red Evie has just come out of season. The miler star of 2006 wouldn't want to be too far off his best this afternoon. He has to be a risky prospect. My immediate reaction is that the two French raiders are not good enough. Extensive review didn't convinvce me otherwise. Racinger will kill himself if taking Ramonti on in front. Turtle Bowl needs a strong gallop and leader suicide to figure. Cesare may be better under those circumstances ( strong gallop ). There's no doubt that Cesare fires up at Ascot and peaks at a mile there. His trainer has a remarkable record in mile races during the Royal meeting. I think the horse was flattered by a blistering leader pace last time and this is significantly more difficult. Red Evie was workmanlike rather than spectacular at Newbury. She had the run of the race compared to Ramonti that day. I expect the colt to turn the tables this afternoon. The soft ground at Newbury would have been little help to the cause of Ramonti either. I think his biggest problem that day was the negative ride from Dettori. Restrained out in the middle of the track on his own, the horse looked to resent the brakes being on. This time Dettori is flying high after a string of big race wins and Ramonti has the perfect draw. Should be able to dictate from the front with the help of his stablemate and give George Washington plenty to chase.
Ascot Stakes
High draws are usually a bonus here but the field size has been restricted by a safety limit of twenty runners. A very open race again with many jumps trainers coming to the fore. No surprise that Midlands handler Mark Johnston figures prominently among past results for races like this. I expect his pair to be safely held this afternoon though. Leg Spinner is back on the flat for the first time since winning this race two years ago at York. I liked him a lot last time but am prepared to look elsewhere today. Grafton Street is an obvious selection and was well supported for a distance handicap before a late withdrawl recently. He looks weighted up for mine though. The two that have jumped out at me are Raslan and Raucous. The latter meets Grafton Street very well at the weights considering they have a similar profile. The 7lbs gap should make all the difference. The leading jumps stable of David Pipe have saddled winners for races like this with Ryan Moore up in the past. The pair have a very real chance this afternoon and he also seems very well weighted against Grafton Street.
Windsor Castle Stakes
Usually a tough little race and this is no exception. Achilles Of Troy looks the obvious one but I think he's also the most exposed. An improver looks more likely to take the contest for mine and I'm drawn to Hatta Fort. He was obviously underdone when stepping out first time and looked a lot sharper with the experience under his belt. Drawnfromthepast is in a similar mould having been given a very easy time on debut. Really improved to belt a quality Sir Mark Prescott runner at his second appearance. Both are drawn up the middle and the earlier sprint races should provide an excellent guide.

That's all for day one folks. Best of luck to those having a nibble at Betfair or the Tote.

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« 2007-Jun-19, 07:13 PM Reply #14 »
Great review Hilly , helps us Aussie's get a bit of an understanding of the Europeon horse's, but i am still going with Takeover , from Bently Buscuit

Our sprinters have a great record over there

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« 2007-Jun-19, 09:11 PM Reply #15 »
Couple of quick updates for this afternoon.
 
Major Eazy given a big chance by connections in the last today. He needs firm ground, cover and a fast pace. Looked pretty handy behind some good sorts at his first two runs. Forget his last start on the soft at Sandown. The stable has been out of form with health problems for a while but looks to be emerging from the fog with a number of winners over the last week. Dettori up and he was very keen to take the mount.
 
A further note to punters looking to have a go in the first. The O'Brien stable invariably runs a quality animal in this race but they have a habit of getting beaten. Those on the past loser list include Rock Of Gibraltar, Holy Roman Emperor and Oratorio - all high class Gr1 horses.
 

Quad on TABCORP
 
2/2,6/6,7,13,20/4,5,10,14,19
 
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« 2007-Jun-19, 09:31 PM Reply #16 »
Interestingly Jamie Spencer has named Excellent Art as his best ride of the day. We all saw what happened in France and Spencer is keen to make amends. Pretty much adheres to my preview as the biggest danger to Cockney Rebel.

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« 2007-Jun-19, 09:45 PM Reply #17 »
While many quality types from the Ballydoyle camp have been beaten in the Coventry the stable has been able to salute with a few second and third stringers at nice prices. South Dakota looks best of the pair behind Henrythenavigator.

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« 2007-Jun-20, 05:23 AM Reply #18 »
Miss Andretti 1st in track record time 2.25 secs quicker then previous record
Dandy Man 2nd , ran second to TT last year and finds another Aussie to good
Magnus 3rd
Takeover target a gallant 4th

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« 2007-Jun-20, 08:30 AM Reply #19 »
Miss Andretti wins at Royal Ascot

20 June 2007
By Mike Hedge   aapracing

Brilliant filly Miss Andretti has continued Australia's domination of the King's Stand Stakes at Royal Ascot with a record-breaking win in the Group Two event on Tuesday.
Miss Andretti, the 3-1 favourite, smashed the Ascot 1000m record with her 1-3/4 length victory over Irish sprinter Dandy Man with another Australian runner Magnus, in third place.
Yet another Aussie, Takeover Target, who won the race last year, finished fourth while the Gai Waterhouse-trained Bentley Biscuit finished last of the 20 runners.

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« 2007-Jun-20, 09:55 AM Reply #20 »
RaceNews  UK
 
Placings: King's Stand 
 
1 MISS ANDRETTI (AUS) (P Buckley, D Mueller, G Guenzi) Lee Freedman AUS 6-9-01 Craig Newitt [19] 3/1 f

2 DANDY MAN (IRE) (Princess Haya of Jordan) Tracey Collins IRE 4-9-04 Pat Shanahan [1] 15/2

3 MAGNUS (AUS) (R Crabtree) Peter Moody AUS 5-9-04b Damien Oliver [17] 14/1

4 TAKEOVER TARGET (AUS) (Joe & Ben Janiak) Joe Janiak AUS 8-9-04 Jay Ford [14] 11/2

5 ENTICING (IRE) (Lael Stables) William Haggas 3-8-09 Jamie Spencer [12]

6 DESERT LORD (Bull & Bell Partnership) Kevin Ryan 7-9-04b Neil Callan [20]

7 BEAUTY IS TRUTH (IRE) (Richard Strauss) Robert Collet FR 3-8-09 Thierry Thulliez [10]

8 THE TATLING (IRE) (Dab Hand Racing) Milton Bradley 10-9-04 Darryll Holland [15]

9 GREEN MANALISHI (T Fawcett, S McCarthy, J Brennan & J Smith) Kevin Ryan 6-9-04 Ted Durcan [21]

10 MOORHOUSE LAD (Ron Hull) Bryan Smart 4-9-04 Tom Eaves [18]

11 TAX FREE (IRE) (Ian Hewitson) David Nicholls 5-9-04 Adrian Nicholls [7]

12 BENBAUN (IRE) (Ransley, Birks, Hillen) Mark Wallace 6-9-04v Pat Smullen [5]

13 PIVOTAL POINT (Exors of Late R Bernard & John Perry) Peter Makin 7-9-04 Seb Sanders [4]

14 MOSS VALE (IRE) (Lady O’Reilly) David Nicholls 6-9-04 Frankie Dettori [11]

15 CONQUEST (IRE) (Highclere Thoroughbred Racing XXX VIII) William Haggas 3-8-12b Hugh Bowman [9]

16 MANZILA (FR) (M Guerriche) Freddie Head FR 4-9-01 Olivier Peslier [2]

17 KING ORCHISIOS (IRE) (Mr & Mrs Julian & Rosie Richer) Kevin Ryan 4-9-04p Daragh O'Donohoe [6]

18 MATSUNOSUKE (Scobie Coogan) Scobie Coogan 5-9-04 Johnny Murtagh [8]

19 DAZED AND AMAZED (R Ablett) Richard Hannon 3-8-12 Richard Hughes [16]

20 BENTLEY BISCUIT (AUS) (Gai Waterhouse) Gai Waterhouse AUS 6-9-04 Nash Rawiller [3]

20 ran

Non-runner: 19 Hamoody (Ground)

Distances: 1 3/4, nk, 1/2, 1 1/2, 1 3/4, hd, 1/2, 1/2, 1 1/4, hd, sh, 1/2, hd, sh, 1, 1, nk, 5, 1/2

Time: 57.44s (course record - previous course record 59.79s)

Breeding: b m Ihtiram (IRE) - Peggie’s Bid (AUS) (Marooned)

Breeder: Mr & Mrs K & Mrs P Beauglehole

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« 2007-Jun-20, 05:45 PM Reply #21 »
Welcome to day two of Royal Ascot 2007. Some heavy rain again overnight across the UK but a crystal clear morning greeted me through the office window. A few good results on day one so let's keep the ball rolling.

Jersey Stakes

US Ranger jumps out of the formbook and grabs you by the wallet. Nothing between him and Major Cadeaux in the Guineas with the latter coming down the favoured side of the course that day. The 3lb advantage to US Ranger this afternoon makes him a clear top pick over Major Cadeaux with the rest fighing it out for minor prizemoney. Hard to say what Strategic Prince will do after an idiotic attempt at the Derby. I'd say the owners wanted the start there a lot more than trainer Paul Cole.

Windsor Forest Stakes

The big question here seems to be "Is the ground firm enough for Nanina?" If it is she wins, it's that simple for mine. A very good return on an unsuitable surface last time out. Nanina should be peaking this afternoon. Interesting that Sir Michael Stoute starts two here. Not sure either can win but Echelon is a confirmed top selection of the pair. Wasseema is covered by her stablemate and Rae Guest runner Bahia Breeze. Mind you Bahia Breeze always seems to find one better as well. Gwenseb looks interesting and hasn't been far off the colts in fairly good company. That form looks ok too through yesterday's Queen Anne. Slightly better ground today also looks to be in her favour. Satwa Queen would be a real live chance on softer ground. She should find one or two slicker under the prevailing conditions though. Nanina or Gwenseb to take this prize.

Prince Of Wales's Stakes

Absolutely no pacemaker engaged here so the early speed looks more than tricky. Two fairly even bunches engaged for mine with Sir Percy, Pressing and Kandidate against the rest. Not sure the overnight rain did Dylan Thomas any favours. Outsprinted by Notnowcato last time in similar conditions. There is very little in this between the leading four candidates so tactics will play the key role. I think Manduro and Notnowcato have the best tactical speed of the quartet and they are therefore at a slight advantage. Dylan Thomas beat walkers in his first two runs this campaign and looks vulnerable again.

Royal Hunt Cup

The horse racing version of the chook raffle with anyone a chance to win it. Well, almost anyone. I keep coming back to two horses here Supaseus and Royal Oath. Not a great deal of value around that pair though. My extended list includes Minority Report, My Paris, Trafalgar Square, Montpelier and Prince Of Light. After extensive review though I'm going to take a nudge at Pentecost. Not a lot of luck in this off a higher mark last year. Gets extra weight relief here through promising conditional William Buick and that may be just enough. Plenty of value in this race so don't let me put you off anything.

Queen Mary Stakes

I really fancy two here Sweepstake and Starlit Sands. I'll be fairly surprised if anything can beat the pair. Polar Circle may be the other one with the time of her first start being affected by a strong head wind. That form hasn't been franked in any meaningful way though. I think that Sweepstake has shown a little more scope than Starlit Sands and have her on top. Was really impressed with the way she bullocked out and found the line last time when not getting a lot of room. Looks to be more to come from the daughter of Acclamation.

Sandringham Handicap

I wont be trading at all on this race and wish you all luck in finding the winner. Cliche and Italian Girl should be hard to beat. The handicapper may have Costume's measure and the stable think Cliche is slightly over weighted.

Best of luck to those having a nibble on today's meeting.


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« 2007-Jun-20, 07:26 PM Reply #22 »
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Another excellent report. I am keen on Notnowcato in the POW.

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« 2007-Jun-20, 07:33 PM Reply #23 »
Miss Andretti favourite for Ascot double

20 June 2007
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Miss Andretti has rocketed into $2.20 favouritism for Saturday's Group One Golden Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot following her brilliant King's Stand Stakes victory.

The mare's price for the second leg of the sprint double was more than halved by TAB Sportsbet which offered as much as $4.60 prior to her victory in Wednesday morning's (AEST) King's Stand Stakes.

The Group Two event proved popular with Australian TAB punters who wagered more than $1.4 million across the country.

TAB spokesman Glenn Munsie said another win by the Lee Freedman-trained five-year-old in the Golden Jubilee Stakes (1200m) would be a "wipeout" result as they also offered $9 about her claiming the Royal Ascot double and punters snapped it up.

Takeover Target, who finished a creditable fourth in the King's Stand and is expected to be better suited by the step up in distance from 1000m, is on the second line of betting at $5 ahead of local hope Amadeus Wolf at $8.50.

The Joe Janiak-trained Takeover Target won the opening leg 12 months ago before finishing third to Les Arcs in the Golden Jubilee.

Magnus, a fighting third in the King's Stand, is rated an $11 chance while Bentley Biscuit is at $17 although he is a doubtful starter after jarring up on the hard track when he failed to beat a runner home at his international debut.

King's Stand Stakes runner-up Dandy Man is at $26 but is unlikely to back-up on Saturday.

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« 2007-Jun-20, 08:41 PM Reply #24 »
Who has put in the bid for Miss Andretti.  Maybe Coomore ?.  Apparently the deal has to go through by Friday if it is to proceed.


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