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Offline tontonan

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« 2015-Jun-21, 01:40 AM Reply #100 »
Correction : An empty bottle of beer and half a fruit cake.

Craig walked the track and picked his line.  He's gone very close to winning.  He's one of the best in the business at reading a track.  No excuses.

Undrafted looked an absolute peach behind the gates.  I only had eyes for Brazen Beau but I wasn't the least bit surprised that Undrafted was the one to tip us out.

The thing I can't shake is the feeling that Chautauqua would have won that race in much the same fashion as Undrafted did.

Oh well, at least we were spared a total Waller meltdown.


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« 2015-Jun-21, 01:43 AM Reply #101 »
Craig Williams.

Very strange.

Dammit. Fell asleep.

Did he acquit himself well?

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« 2015-Jun-21, 01:53 AM Reply #102 »
Very well.  Williams kept Brazen Beau to the stand side and ran his own race apart from the rest. Dettori pulled Undrafted  behind the pack and worked home on the far side.  There was very little in it in the finish.

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« 2015-Jun-21, 02:02 AM Reply #103 »
Very well.  Williams kept Brazen Beau to the stand side and ran his own race apart from the rest. Dettori pulled Undrafted  behind the pack and worked home on the far side.  There was very little in it in the finish.

Cheers tonto.

Will have to catch a replay.

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« 2015-Jun-21, 02:04 AM Reply #104 »
Craig walked the track and picked his line.  He's gone very close to winning.  He's one of the best in the business at reading a track.  No excuses.

How many horses win up a straight course racing by themselves?

Choisir in the Lightning.

And...?

No other jockey has raced solo this week.  

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« 2015-Jun-21, 02:15 AM Reply #105 »
And about three dozen horses have finished in a worse place than a half length second this week.  There were 13 others well beaten behind him that gained no great advantage running with the pack.

It just doesn't necessarily follow that if the horse was ridden differently it would have won.


4:20 - Diamond Jubilee Stakes (Group 1)
6f, Class 1, 297,727.50

1 Undrafted 14/1
2 Brazen Beau 7/2f
3 Astaire 25/1

15 ran Distances: l, 1l, 1l
TIME 1m 12.69s (slow by 0.09s)

Jockey: Frankie Dettori
Trainer: Wesley A Ward

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« 2015-Jun-21, 09:14 AM Reply #107 »
PP....I was like you and fell asleep after the win by Snow Sky I thought that would keep my eyes open but I didn't really think he could win because of the usual hype but he went closer than I thought.

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« 2015-Jun-21, 11:12 AM Reply #108 »
Undrafted beaten by an Aussie bush horse at his previous start in America

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/CD/2015/5/1/9/twin-spires-turf-sprint-s-gr-iii


http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseAllForm.aspx?HorseCode=MzI1MzA1NjEyMA%3d%3d&src=horsesearch

I assume this on the horses Australian record means it bled in Australia.

Stewards Embargoes    Current - 28-Mar-2014, Bleeders (Unruly)

That's some turn around.


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« 2015-Jun-21, 11:17 AM Reply #109 »
Very well.  Williams kept Brazen Beau to the stand side and ran his own race apart from the rest. Dettori pulled Undrafted  behind the pack and worked home on the far side.  There was very little in it in the finish.

What on earth was Williams thinking?

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« 2015-Jun-21, 02:34 PM Reply #110 »
Brazen Beau had every chance, he had adequate fractions to win that race.

I tend to think that Waller got the race selection wrong and should have gone for the King's Stand.

WFA 1200 metres first up looked a tad far.

The horse would have won the King's Stand easily with that type of performance.

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« 2015-Jun-21, 03:00 PM Reply #111 »
Both Starspangledbanner and Choisir made all the running to win this race in faster time against better fields so I think it's fair to say that Brazen Beau didn't get the 1200 metres at WFA.

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« 2015-Jun-21, 03:02 PM Reply #112 »
Starspangled was a champion :clap2:

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« 2015-Jun-21, 04:01 PM Reply #113 »
Very well.  Williams kept Brazen Beau to the stand side and ran his own race apart from the rest. Dettori pulled Undrafted  behind the pack and worked home on the far side.  There was very little in it in the finish.

Even Williams himself admitted in the post race interview that deciding to go it alone made it harder for the horse... so when the jock admits that you can hardly say that the horse was ridden very well. Williams made a mistake by going solo, though jackal is also right about the distance query with Williams also admitting that the horse didn't give any 'punch' when asked when he saw Undrafted out in the corner of his eye.
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« 2015-Jun-22, 09:04 PM Reply #114 »
I think I backed every one of Wesley Wards horses all week: bar the 2 that won.  :what:

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