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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2018-Jun-24, 04:13 AM Reply #50 »
Great win by Merchant Navy, but what a fiasco the Diamond Jubilee was.

Fav Harry Angel went berserk in the stalls and his Monty Roberts blanket seem to get tangled up. Starter for some inexplicable reason still let them go, instead of having the horse backed out and vetted. Not surprisingly, Harry Angel missed the jumped hopelessly and then dipped on his first stride out of the barriers.

Amateur stuff.

Redkirk Warrior woeful. First horse beaten.

Great win by the former Victorian horse. A lot of great Australian bloodstock on the damside. Out of a Snippets mare.

Is he a stallion prospect?

Foxwedge, Hinchinbrook, Smart Missile and Your Song probably the best Fastnets at stud out here.

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« 2018-Jun-24, 09:54 AM Reply #51 »
It was a shock, do they have some rule over there where they just put them in and say go?

The start of the races over there would indicate no one at a UK track actually owns a watch so I don't see the extra delay being an issue.
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« 2018-Jun-24, 09:57 AM Reply #52 »
Maybe they could learn a thing or two from the colonials about how to conduct a race meeting. :chin:

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« 2018-Jun-24, 10:48 AM Reply #53 »
It was a shock, do they have some rule over there where they just put them in and say go?

The start of the races over there would indicate no one at a UK track actually owns a watch so I don't see the extra delay being an issue.

If they take them out of the gates they scratch them, which would have been the wise thing to do, They do not do vet checks at the gates once they are under orders.

Until recently if they went through the front of the gates they were an automatic scratching, That seems to have changed without much notice when a favourite the other day was led back around and reloaded.




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« 2018-Jun-24, 11:04 AM Reply #54 »
Well, the starter should have given him ten seconds to settle then pull him out.  It wasn't like he was just a little fractious.

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« 2018-Jun-24, 01:53 PM Reply #55 »
Well, the starter should have given him ten seconds to settle then pull him out.  It wasn't like he was just a little fractious.

There appears to be a different culture over there. Especially with the starts.

They have a hell of a lot of races with no barrier stalls in their staying races which I actually like.

But yes. The start last night was a shock to the Australian viewer. Wonder if it was the same for the English viewer? I suspect not.

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« 2018-Jun-24, 03:46 PM Reply #56 »
Stewards Report

An enquiry was held into the start of this race. The Starter and Adam Kirby, the rider of HARRY ANGEL (IRE) were interviewed. The Starter explained that HARRY ANGEL (IRE) was the penultimate horse to enter and had loaded with a stalls rug, but there had been a slight delay in loading the last horse, SIR DANCELOT (IRE), which was reluctant to enter. Consequently, HARRY ANGEL (IRE) had become fractious, kicking the rug off, and whilst he could see the rug moving from his position on the rostrum he was unable to see anything further. He added that Kirby had shouted at him to wait, which he had done, and when Kirby had indicated all was well he had effected the start. Kirby explained that HARRY ANGEL (IRE) had entered the stalls and had kicked out after the gates had been closed, causing him to lose an iron. He added that when he looked around, he could not see that the coltís leg was on the running board as it was covered by the stalls rug, and once he had regained his iron he was happy to indicate to the Starter that all was well for the race to start. Their explanations were noted.

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« 2018-Jun-24, 03:58 PM Reply #57 »
There appears to be a different culture over there. Especially with the starts.

They have a hell of a lot of races with no barrier stalls in their staying races which I actually like.

I know of only one flat race in which starting stalls are not used. That's the 4100m opening race on day 2 of Glorious Goodwood, which starts in the home straight heading anti clockwise and they come back running the other way.

They don't use gates in jumps races.

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« 2018-Jun-24, 04:49 PM Reply #58 »
I know of only one flat race in which starting stalls are not used. That's the 4100m opening race on day 2 of Glorious Goodwood, which starts in the home straight heading anti clockwise and they come back running the other way.

They don't use gates in jumps races.

They actually have no barriers flat races too at times but over a distance. However they are usually for hurdlers / chasers  and these are bumpers (?) as the English refer to.

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« 2018-Jun-24, 04:54 PM Reply #59 »
They actually have no barriers flat races too at times but over a distance. However they are usually for hurdlers / chasers  and these are bumpers (?) as the English refer to.

Bumpers are indeed jumpers' flats, used largely for educational purposes. They are run on jumping cards, not flat racing programmes.

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« 2018-Jun-24, 07:12 PM Reply #60 »
Bumpers are indeed jumpers' flats, used largely for educational purposes. They are run on jumping cards, not flat racing programmes.

Yes but they do not jump from stalls.

I could be wrong JRB, but I think one of the reasons why they use barriers is because of the heavy grounds they get there and the bog down factor.
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« 2018-Jun-24, 08:08 PM Reply #61 »
Did you see the farrier attempting to reshoe James Watt before the Windsor Castle ?

Admittedly we are spoiled by the quality of our Australian racetrack farriers but this bloke was pathetic.  For a start he was in a panic - never a good idea around a racehorse.  Secondly he had the horse up against the wall off the stall leaving the horse with nowhere to go and then he put the horses hoof between his knees and turned at right angles to the horse ! 

I couldn't believe it.  In the old days of World Championship Wrestling we used to call that the Step Over Toe Hold.  Horses legs aren't designed to move much laterally and it was no wonder the horse objected.

After several attempts to shoe the near hind the farrier sent the horse to the start on three plates !   

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« 2018-Jun-24, 09:24 PM Reply #62 »
Yes but they do not jump from stalls.

I could be wrong JRB, but I think one of the reasons why they use barriers is because of the heavy grounds they get there and the bog down factor.

They're National Hunt races.

National Hunt doesn't use barriers.


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