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Offline j.r.b.

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O.P. « 2018-Sep-02, 04:44 AM »
This fellow is now fav for next year's classics after spreadeagling his field in this afternoon's G3 Solario Stakes at Sandown. That followed a 7 length debut win at the same course a few weeks back.

He bested a ptretty decent lot today, with previously unbeaten Royal Ascot winner, Arthur Kitt, his closest pursuer.

He's got a stellar pedigree and impeccable connections. Owned and bred by the Lloyd Webbers, he is trained by J H M Gosden and ridden by L Dettori.

He's by Dubawi ex the super racemare and broodmare, Dar Re Mi. I had a good look at him in the paddock beforehand. He's a neat type, but typical of his sire's stock, he doesn't seem to have a huge amount of scope.

I can't argue with his credentials, but I won't be jumping in to the ante prices on him.

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« 2018-Sep-02, 04:57 AM Reply #1 »
Ten Sovereigns looked pretty good in the G3 Round Tower at The Curragh as well. He beat the second horse Bruce Wayne (love that name!)  by a space.

The commentators suggested that these two could meet at Newmarket.

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« 2018-Sep-02, 10:27 AM Reply #2 »
I think Ten Sovereigns will be a sprinter.



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« 2018-Sep-04, 12:08 AM Reply #4 »

TOO DARN HOT (GB)
Bay colt 2016 
Dubawi
Bay 2002
Dubai Millennium
Bay 1996
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Con Game
Bay or brown 1974
Buckpasser
Broadway
1963
1959
1-s
5-c
Colorado Dancer
Bay or brown 1986
Shareef Dancer
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Sweet Alliance
1961
1974
2-d
4-r
Fall Aspen
Chestnut 1976
Pretense
Change Water
1963
1969
3-i
4-m
Zomaradah
Bay 1995
Deploy
Bay 1987
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Slightly Dangerous
Bay 1979
Roberto
Where You Lead
1969
1970
12-c
14-f
Jawaher
Bay 1989
Dancing Brave
Bay 1983
Lyphard
Navajo Princess
1969
1974
17-b
3-d
High Tern
Grey 1982
High Line
Sunbittern
1966
1970
5-e
9-e
Dar Re Mi
Bay 2005
Singspiel
Bay 1992
In the Wings
Bay 1986
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
High Hawk
Bay 1980
Shirley Heights
Sunbittern
1975
1970
1-l
9-e
Glorious Song
Bay 1976
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Cosmah
1958
1953
4-n
2-d
Ballade
Bay or brown 1972
Herbager
Miss Swapsco
1956
1965
16-c
12-c
Darara
Bay 1983
Top Ville
Bay 1976
High Top
Brown 1969
Derring-Do
Camenae
1961
1961
21-a
11-a
Sega Ville
Bay 1968
Charlottesville
La Sega
1957
1959
14-a
8-i
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Bay or brown 1959
Arbar
Pretty Lady
1944
1942
9-e
1-e
Kelty
Bay 1965
Venture
Marilla
1957
1957
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13-c
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m Shirley Heights4m x 5f Sunbittern5f x 5f

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« 2018-Sep-04, 03:15 PM Reply #5 »
http://newspaper.racingpost.com/html5/reader/get_clipping.aspx?edid=fc0c74c1-ca52-4d30-bff5-a1199ef96f13&pnum=15&timestamp=20180904061217770

http://newspaper.racingpost.com/html5/reader/get_clipping.aspx?edid=fc0c74c1-ca52-4d30-bff5-a1199ef96f13&pnum=15&timestamp=20180904061217770



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« 2018-Sep-14, 10:32 AM Reply #6 »
Interesting clash in tomorrow's G2 Champagne Stakes at Doncaster between this very nice colt and Godolphin's recent big money purchase, the unbeaten Dark Vision.

TDH smashed his opposition, which included some pretty handy neddies, a fortnight back at Sandown.

Dark Vision came from what looked an impossible position to win at Goodwood.

TDH currently trading at 1/2 fav. Dark Vision 4/1.

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« 2018-Sep-15, 11:56 PM Reply #7 »
5 minutes out from the jump, and itís all one way traffic in the betting.

2/5 fav Too Darn Hot.

5/1 Dark Vision.

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« 2018-Sep-16, 12:05 AM Reply #8 »
Market was spot on.

He's a missile, Too Darn Hot.

I hope Godolphin didn't pay too much for the hitherto unbeaten Dark Vision. He ran a bad last at his first run for the blue jackets.

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« 2018-Sep-16, 11:14 AM Reply #9 »
Market was spot on.

He's a missile, Too Darn Hot.

I hope Godolphin didn't pay too much for the hitherto unbeaten Dark Vision. He ran a bad last at his first run for the blue jackets.

Mark Johnston, he is a head scratcher.


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« 2018-Oct-09, 08:26 AM Reply #10 »
Too Darn Hot's gone odds on prior to acceptances for this weekend's Dewhurst at Newmarket.

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« 2018-Oct-09, 08:38 AM Reply #11 »
Coincidentally, his yearling full brother goes through the ring at Tattersalls this week.

http://www.tattersalls.com/cat/october/2018/325.pdf

Obviously a few updates since the catalogue was printed. Not only Too Dart Hot himself, but older sister Lah Ti Dar has since won a listed race by 10 lengths and run 2nd in the G1 St Leger.

Apparently a good type, so there should be plenty of fireworks.

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« 2018-Oct-11, 01:16 PM Reply #12 »
Coincidentally, his yearling full brother goes through the ring at Tattersalls this week.

http://www.tattersalls.com/cat/october/2018/325.pdf

Obviously a few updates since the catalogue was printed. Not only Too Dart Hot himself, but older sister Lah Ti Dar has since won a listed race by 10 lengths and run 2nd in the G1 St Leger.

Apparently a good type, so there should be plenty of fireworks.

Topped the sale (and indeed all yearling sales in the world this year), making 3.5m guineas - around AUD$6,875,000 and change.

Bought by Sheikh Fahad Al Thani from Qatar (of Dunaden fame; also owns this year's champion, Roaring Lion).

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« 2018-Oct-14, 12:08 AM Reply #13 »
Well, they bet even money, and some a little better, at the jump, but it's unlikely we'll see black odds about Too Darn Hot for a while.

He made some very nice 2yos look pretty plain when thrashing them in the Dewhurst.

No doubt will be a very short quote for next year's 2000 Guineas.

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« 2018-Oct-14, 01:03 AM Reply #14 »
A clear 2nd best 2yo behind Calyx. A superb win.

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« 2018-Oct-14, 09:41 AM Reply #15 »
TDH now a crazy 5/4 for the 2000 Guineas.

You can have 7/1 Calyx.

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« 2018-Oct-14, 10:04 AM Reply #16 »
I doubt Calyx will go there. Commonwealth Cup which will not be easy against Ten Sovereigns will more than likely be his target.


I actually think 5/4 is OK for Too Darn Hot. Provided he gets through the winter in one piece he will be long odds on on the day.

It really is a super crop of 2yos and Gosden has the bulk of them.

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« 2018-Nov-20, 11:01 AM Reply #17 »
Named Cartier 2yo colt of the year.
« Last Edit: 2018-Nov-20, 11:03 AM by j.r.b. »

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« 2018-Nov-20, 08:47 PM Reply #18 »
Do not like Mr Gosden harping on about him being too fast to be a Derby horse.

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« 2018-Nov-21, 09:30 AM Reply #19 »
Deal done for him to stand at Darley's Dalham Hall Stud when his racing days are over.

No surprise that Sheikh Mo is looking for as many top class sons of Dubawi as he can lay his hands on.

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« 2018-Nov-21, 09:30 AM Reply #20 »
Do not like Mr Gosden harping on about him being too fast to be a Derby horse.

He didn't look to have the shape of a Derby horse when I saw him at Sandown.


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