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« 2014-Aug-24, 07:13 PM Reply #50 »
The Adelaide form copped a bit of a dent but Mr Speaker was going from turf to dirt so it can be forgiven.


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« 2014-Aug-25, 07:13 PM Reply #51 »
Potentially the best horse on the planet.

Shared Belief

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« 2014-Aug-25, 07:18 PM Reply #52 »
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« 2014-Aug-26, 07:48 AM Reply #53 »

I've been laughing at these sort of dividends for a while now.
For the life of me I can't fathom what the tab is getting out of this....is there a bigger picture I can't see?
There's as much interest in this as there is in watching paint dry.



Saves the desperate and dateless from going to the Casino to play Keno at 4am. It's been a godsend for me.  I can put my $1 bet on the mobile without even getting out of bed.

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« 2014-Sep-28, 10:54 AM Reply #54 »
Shared Belief was amazing this morning.

WOW!!!

He is incredible.

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« 2014-Sep-28, 10:57 AM Reply #55 »

Stuck wide every step of the way, odds-on choice Shared Belief stayed unbeaten in seven starts with a neck victory over a game Fed Biz in the $300,000 Awesome Again Stakes (gr. I) Sept. 27 at Santa Anita Park (VIDEO).

Shared Belief gave up much ground while ridden to a gutty victory by Mike Smith, who came back from a spill in the preceding race to guide the smallish 3-year-old Candy Ride   gelding. After surviving this dogfight, Shared Belief could very well be the horse to beat in the $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) Nov. 1 at Santa Anita.

Trainer Jerry Hollendorfer is a part owner of Shared Belief in partnership with Jim and Janet Rome's Jungle Racing, Jason Litt, Alex Solis II, George Todaro, and Kevin and Kim Nish's KMN Racing. 

It was the closest finish in the career of Shared Belief, a smashing 2 3/4-length winner of the $1 million Pacific Classic (gr. I) Aug. 24.

"He didn't seem to be getting hold of the track that well," Hollendorfer said. "We're very happy to get the win. Hopefully, this race will set him up well for the next one."

Making his career debut at Santa Anita, Shared Belief was timed in 1:48.58 for the 1 1/8-mile distance. Fed Biz was second, with 34-1 outsider Footbridge third.

Shared Belief appeared to be the focus of a bit of gamesmanship early as he was fanned wide through the stretch the first time and into the clubhouse turn by outsider Sky Kingdom, stablemate to the Bob Baffert-trained Fed Biz ridden by Victor Espinoza. Shared Belief remained five wide up the backstretch as Smith gave the 1-5 favorite a breather into the far turn, and remained on the extreme outside rounding the bend as Smith put last year's male juvenile champion to the drive.

"They tried to use some tactics on me which made the win today even sweeter," Smith said. "They just kept taking me wide, taking me wide, and I believe if you want to press the pace or take me out a little bit, OK. But doing it at all costs just to get me beat isn't the way it should be done. It was to the extreme, I thought it was ridiculous. You just don't do that."

Shared Belief gained a head advantage at the furlong marker over the speedy Fed Biz and prevailed in an all-out battle under strong urging from Smith.

Asked if he thought he was "double-teamed" by the Baffert horses, Hollendorfer responded: "We're all big boys…It's no big deal for me. Mike will have to settle up with Victor."

Fed Biz, who broke from the rail for Martin Garcia, battled another outsider, Mystery Train, for the lead through quarter mile fractions of :22.84, :46.52, and 1:10.59 before getting a slight advantage in the stretch. Fed Biz battled back valiantly when confronted by Shared Belief and the two dueled all the way to the wire in a terrific finish.

"It looked like we had him. Shared Belief, he's just a really good horse," Baffert said. "Everything was going well for (Fed Biz), but Mystery Train, he has a way of messing up the pace, like he did for the second time (in the Pacific Classic with Game On Dude). It's a shame, because (Fed Biz) did all the hard work. But you have to give credit to Shared Belief. It looked like we had him. Fed Biz dug in and tried to beat him. We got beat and it was a great race."

The victory was Shared Belief's second over a dirt track following the Los Alamitos Derby (gr. II) at Los Alamitos Race Course July 5. His other wins are over synthetic surfaces. The concern in the Shared Belief camp has to be how much the race took out of Shared Belief with just five weeks remaining before the biggest test of his career in the BC Classic.

"It's not the worst thing in the world to have a tough race and be double-fit for the Breeders' Cup," Hollendorfer said. "That race will be tougher so we'll need to be tougher, too."

The dark bay gelding was purchased by Hollendorfer privately from owners/breeders Pam and Marty Wygod after he debuted at Golden Gate Fields last Oct. 19, taking a six-furlong maiden special weight by seven lengths. After missing the Triple Crown campaign with a foot injury that was slow to heal, Shared Belief has now won all four of his starts this year. 

The winning share of $180,000 boosted Shared Beleif's career bankroll to $1,552,200.

Under 121 pounds, Shared Belief paid $2.40, $2.20, and $2.10 across the board. He topped a chalky $8.20 exacta with second choice Fed Biz, who was coming out of a runner-up effort in the Pat O'Brien Stakes (gr. II) and returned $3.60 and $3.20. Footbridge, sent off at 34-1 odds, was 2 1/4 lengths back in third and paid $5.80.

Majestic Harbor ran fourth, followed by Imperative, Mystery Train, and Sky Kingdom.

Read more on BloodHorse.com:http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/87641/shared-belief-goes-overland-in-awesome-again#ixzz3EZFnF91C


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« 2014-Oct-09, 10:30 AM Reply #56 »
Cigar-360 - 27 mar 1996: jerry bailey on cigar (#8, nearest fence) edges out soul of the matter to win the $4 million dubai world cup race in the united arab emirates by a half-length. horse of the year cigar claimed the $2.4 million first prize with its

Cigar under Jerry Bailey winning the Dubai World Cup

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US racing legend Cigar dies at 24

US racing legend Cigar, who won 16 consecutive races during 1995 and 1996 before retiring as the leading all-time money earner with $9,999,813, has died aged 24.

The Hall of Famer died on Tuesday at Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital in Lexington, Kentucky,  from complications following surgery for severe osteoarthritis in his neck.

"Cigar had been experiencing arthritis-related health issues over the past six months and was in outstanding physical and mental condition other than the osteoarthritis he was suffering from in several of his cervical vertebrae," Kathy Hopkins, director of equine operations for the Kentucky Horse Park, told bloodhorse.com. 

"Medical therapies had failed to relieve the pressure that the arthritis was causing on his spine, which had resulted in instability in his hind legs."

Cigar carved himself out places in both US and international racing history with his wins including the inaugural Dubai World Cup at Nad Al Sheba in 1996, while he became the first horse since Triple Crown winner Citation in 1950 to win 16 races on the spin in North America, a record that has subsequently been passed by the great Zenyatta.

Trained to begin with by Alex Hassinger for owner Allen Paulson, Cigar found fame when switched to Bill Mott as a four-year-old and in 1995 he reeled off a string of top class wins including the Hollywood Gold Cup, Jockey Cup Gold Cup, Donn Handicap, Woodward Handicap and Breeders' Cup Classic, in which commentator Tom Durkin famously called him "the unconquerable, invincible, unbeatable Cigar".

Cigar was defeated in the 1996 Pacific Classic at Del Mar when attempting to pass Citation's record of wins and retired at the end of the year. He stood briefly at Ashford Stud in Kentucky but proved infertile as a stallion and spent the remainder of his life at the Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington.


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« 2014-Oct-09, 07:28 PM Reply #57 »
Cigar was a lot better horse than Durkin a caller.   :yes:

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« 2014-Oct-10, 01:31 AM Reply #58 »
I know it is not USA racing but we don't have a South American racing thread......

For those who like a punt in the morning you can get on a venue what is called "South America" - this race paid out at 0826 hrs




The polls are a bit light on. The race was called the Valparaiso Hcp so I'm guessing it was in Chile.

Are these pools co-mingled with the Chilean peasant's TAB?





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« 2014-Oct-10, 02:09 PM Reply #59 »
playground for rebate hunters and pool manipulators.

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« 2014-Oct-10, 03:09 PM Reply #60 »
playground for rebate hunters and pool manipulators.

What do the TAB shareholders get out of it ?

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« 2014-Nov-02, 10:40 AM Reply #61 »
Breeders Cup Classic soon to run. Tonalist from California Chrome for me.

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« 2014-Nov-03, 11:59 AM Reply #62 »
I wonder if they have swabbed Main Sequence it's last 3.
Obviously racing on Lasix at the very least.

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« 2014-Nov-03, 07:28 PM Reply #63 »
They all race on Lasix.  Very good masking agent. 

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« 2015-Jan-12, 06:46 PM Reply #64 »
Atlantic City racetrack set for closure in a few days time story has some interesting comments from patrons...other tracks Aquaduct also in trouble. :o

http://www.drf.com/news/atlantic-city-race-course-close-permanently

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« 2015-Jul-04, 12:45 PM Reply #66 »
What's your tip, Author?

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« 2015-Jul-04, 12:50 PM Reply #67 »

The form comments are not real complimentary

This isn´t a great race and Canndal and Postulation, nothing out of the ordinary in Europe, have been well placed to have a live shot at a huge prize. However, most appealing is STARTUP NATION. While he´s yet to go on from last year´s Grade 2 win, he looks to have been teed up nicely for this by his expert turf trainer. The selection shaped encouragingly behind a couple of these on his return from a seven-month break. That should bring him and the extra furlong is in his favour, so he´s fancied to improve past his old rivals and prove best of all.

Takeover Target: All three starts here, won first two at minor level then just held by Divisidero

Bolo: 3-4 on firm in California but all wins gained at minor level, including latest; big ask

Canndal: Won Longchamp conditions race in April; held since but not dismissed for respected trainer

Closing Bell: Narrowly won 8.5f maiden at Belmont latest; this a huge jump up

Divisidero: Has won three of four starts, inc G2 penultimate start & valuable race here latest claims

Force The Pass: 3-5 at up to 1m on firm turf, latest G3, but questionable whether he´ll stay 1m2f

Granny´s Kitten: Won first two starts and most recently promising third to Force The Pass; has potential

Postulation: Triple winner, significant improvement taking Curragh Listed (1m2f, good) latest; claims

Startup Nation: Encouraging third to Divisidero and Takeover Target off seven-month break latest; claims


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« 2015-Jul-04, 01:01 PM Reply #68 »
Are they the Racing Post comments ?

Divisidero is my tip. He is a potential superstar.

I would back him over a mile in Europe against most opposition.


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« 2015-Jul-04, 01:03 PM Reply #69 »
I think this is the race Pornichet was beaten 20 lengths in last year.

I wonder if there are any potential Toowoomba Cup winners in it this year?????


Quite like Granny's Kitten.

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« 2015-Jul-05, 12:20 PM Reply #71 »
Divisidoro disappointing.


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« 2015-Jul-05, 01:19 PM Reply #72 »
Divisidoro disappointing.




He is only a Group 2 horse.
Certainly not the best turf horse in America.    :wacko:

I would still back him over a mile in Europe against most opposition though.    :lol:

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« 2015-Jul-05, 01:27 PM Reply #73 »
Who is the best turf horse in America ?

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« 2015-Jul-05, 01:28 PM Reply #74 »
I would like to see the winner go to the Arc as he will get 12 furlongs easily and there is not a lot to write home about in Europe right now.
Very strong crop of 3 year olds in the USA.


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