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Offline sobig

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« 2016-May-22, 01:13 PM Reply #100 »
I don't give him any chance of beating Nyquist in the Preakness

That was a good one.


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« 2016-May-22, 06:33 PM Reply #101 »
It was an interesting race.

As fast as they went for the first quarter they must have dropped anchor in the 2nd and 3rd splits cause Exaggerate went from a long way off them to sitting on their hammer for most of the race.

It will be interesting to read how the experts analyse the race.

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« 2016-Jun-19, 12:41 PM Reply #102 »
Songbird resumed this morning in the Summertime Oaks at Santa Anita.

Track gallop.


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« 2016-Nov-06, 05:22 AM Reply #103 »
Songbird has failed in her attempt to remain undefeated and gone down by a nose to Beholder, a 6yo mare with an impressive record herself (30 starts for 20 wins and 7 placings and more prizemoney than Songbird).

Songbird is on the rails.


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« 2016-Nov-06, 05:27 AM Reply #104 »
California Chrome is the $1.75 favourite for the Breeders Cup Classic this morning at 11.35 a.m. AEDT. Arrogate, who won by 13.5 lengths last start, is the prominent second favourite.

The TABs do not seem to be covering the race  :what:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/sports/horse-racing/breeders-cup-2016-california-chrome.html?_r=0

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« 2016-Nov-06, 05:56 AM Reply #105 »
The Bob Baffert trained Arrogate winning the Grade 1 Travers Stks at Satatoga in track record time


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« 2016-Nov-06, 07:42 AM Reply #106 »
They are covering them PP7

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« 2016-Nov-06, 07:55 AM Reply #107 »
But there's no form available on the app or skyracing

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« 2016-Nov-06, 08:02 AM Reply #108 »
Oh I do not think they are encouraging you to bet on them they are just showing the races for our own viewing pleasure   emthup

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« 2016-Nov-06, 11:36 AM Reply #109 »
They are covering them PP7

Yeah they weren't up early this morning Auth.

What a race! Champ looked home for all money but the young up and coming grey got up in the last 50m to signal a handover of the baton given Chromies imminent retirement.

6 starts for 5 wins and a second for Arrogate now and Juddmonte has said he will continue as a 4yo.

Replay is on the tab.com.au web site - well worth a look.   emthup

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« 2018-Jan-29, 03:06 AM Reply #113 »
From Racenet

Gun Runner goes out with a bang

Gun Runner was pressed at the top of the stretch but his class shone through as he made it five consecutive Grade I wins in the second running of the US$16m Pegasus World Cup Invitational (1m 1/8f) at Gulfstream Park on Saturday.

The recently crowned North American Horse Of The Year started the even-money favourite and was challenged strongly by West Coast off the final turn but pulled away to score by 2 1/2-lengths. The third home Gunnevera trailed a further 10 3/4-lengths behind the winner.

Trainer Steve Asmussentold ESPN it was an emotional victory.

"It's very emotional being his last race after everything he's done for us - it's the cherry on the top this one," Asmussen said.

"For him to come through everything like he did today, we're just so proud of the horse.

"What a dream come true he is, he's improved with every opportunity that he got, even when he didn't have success he moved forward.

“He's just a special individual and we're so blessed to be in his presence. This memory will be with us forever. What a special horse."

Jockey Florent Geroux said he felt the horse had a point to prove.

“This feeling is hard to describe, it's a dream come true,” Geroux said. “We wanted the horse to prove that the Breeder's Cup and all of last year was not a fluke and the horse was there, in only one word, the horse was unbeatable.”

The five-year-old Gun Runner now retires to stud with earnings of US$15,988,500 having won 12 of his 19 starts.


https://www.racenet.com.au/news/gun-runner-goes-out-with-a-bang-20180128

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« 2020-Jun-23, 04:28 PM Reply #114 »
A quick flick through the ICSC Blue Book for 2020 reveals only 4 grade 1 races in North America programmed for this year at 12 furlongs (none any further).

3 of the 4 are on turf.  Canada has 2 turf races the Northern Dancer and the Canadian International. In the USA the Belmont Stakes (dirt) was run last weekend at 9 furlongs instead of the usual 12 furlongs.  The only other race over 12 furlongs is the Breeders Cup Turf (mainly for foreign visitors these days).   

I once read somewhere the USA was the last country to run 4 mile races.  I think we can safely say the American stayer is dead and buried if there are no grade 1 staying races on dirt. 

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« 2020-Jul-07, 01:31 PM Reply #115 »
From: https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/attorney-for-baffert-claims-human-back-pain-patch-caused-drug-positives-for-gamine-charlatan/

Attorney For Baffert Claims Human Back Pain Patch Caused Drug Positives For Gamine, Charlatan

Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert claims that two horses in his barn were “unknowingly and innocently exposed” to a banned substance that wound up in their post-race test samples from May 2 at Oaklawn Park in Hot Springs, Ark.

Information leaked from initial testing by the Arkansas Racing Commission's contracted laboratory in late May indicated that Gamine and Charlatan both tested positive for the Class 2 drug lidocaine, according to the New York Times. Gamine won a May 2 allowance race by a neck. She subsequently won the Grade 1 Acorn Stakes at Belmont Park on June 20 by 18 ¾ lengths. Charlatan won a division of the Grade 1 Arkansas Derby and shortly thereafter suffered a minor ankle injury that will have him sidelined until after the Sept. 5 Kentucky Derby. Both horses are unbeaten in three starts.
Split samples, sent at Baffert's request to the Equine Analytical Testing Laboratory at the University of California-Davis, confirmed the findings, as first reported in the New York Times.

Lidocaine is used by veterinarians during lameness examinations to “block” or numb a horse's limbs. It is also commonly found in ointments and analgesic treatments and patches to alleviate pain in humans.

A statement from Baffert's attorney, Craig Robertson, said both Gamine and Charlatan were exposed to the lidocaine from a patch worn by a member of the trainer's staff suffering back pain while tending to the horses at Oaklawn.

“Even though lidocaine is a lawful, widely available therapeutic medication, it was never intentionally administered to either Gamine or Charlatan,” the statement reads. “When test results indicated that trace amounts of lidocaine were found in both horses after their respective races on May 2, Bob Baffert and his team were shocked. Leading up to May 2, both horses were healthy and worked hard to earn their victories that day.

“After investigation,” the statement continues, “it is our belief that both Gamine and Charlatanwere unknowingly and innocently exposed to lidocaine by one of Bob's employees. The employee previously broke  his pelvis and had been suffering from back pain over the two days leading up to May 2. As a result, he wore a Salonpas patch on his back that he personally applied. That brand of patch contains small amounts of lidocaine. It is believed that lidocaine from that patch was innocently transferred from the employee's hands to the horses through the application of tongue ties by the employee that was handling both horses leading up to May 2.

“What I want to make clear are the following three points: 1) This is a case of innocent exposure and not intentional administration; 2) the levels of Lidocaine found in both Gamine and Charlatan that day were extremely small – 185 picograms for Gamine (in race 7), and 46 picograms for Charlatan (in race 11). A picogram is a trillionth of a gram. 3) It is our understanding that the trace amounts of Lidocaine found in both Gamine and Charlatan would not have had any effect on either horse – much less a performance enhancing one. The extreme sensitivity of modern-day testing can now pick up trace levels of innocent contaminants that have no effect on a horse. This is an issue that regulators of horse racing need to account for and address.
“Based on these facts, we intend on defending the cases involving Gamine and Chalatan before the Arkansas Racing Commission.”

Jimmy Barnes, assistant trainer for Baffert, saddled the horses at Oaklawn in the trainer's absence. He suffered a fractured pelvis in September 2017.
Recommended penalty for a Class 2/Category B penalty drug like lidocaine is a minimum 15-day suspension and $500 fine for a first offense under Association of Racing Commissioners International Model Rules. A second offense has a 30-day penalty and $1,000 fine. Some racing commissions consider simultaneous violations of the same drug as a mitigating factor and do not increase penalties for a second offense.

The Model Rule also calls for disqualification, meaning the owners would lose the purse money from the races (Gamine earned $36,600 and Charlatan $300,000). In the case of Charlatan,  the 100 qualifying points earned for the Kentucky Derby would be transferred to Basin, the second-place finisher (if the case is resolved before Sept. 5).  Currently sidelined Gouverneur Morris finished third, Winning Impression fourth and Anneau d'Or fifth. Points for the Arkansas Derby division are awarded on the basis of 100-40-20-10 to the top four finishers.

Gamine is owned by Michael Lund Petersen. Charlatan is owned by the partnership of SF Racing LLC, Starlight Racing, Madaket Stables LLC, Stonestreet Stables LLC, Frederick Hertrich III, John D. Fielding and Golconda Stables.

An even bigger financial stake for the owners of Charlatan may be in the sale of breeding rights to Hill 'n' Dale Farm announced several days after the  Arkansas Derby. Depending on the language and when the contract between the parties was signed, the sale price may have hinged on Charlatan being a Grade 1 winner. If the Speightstown colt is disqualified from the Arkansas Derby – his stakes debut – the sale price could be reduced by millions of dollars unless and until he officially becomes a Grade 1 winner in the future.


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