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Online JWesleyHarding

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O.P. « 2008-Dec-27, 03:01 PM »
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« 2008-Dec-27, 03:09 PM Reply #1 »
I haven't been a big fan of McEvoy since his move to Sydney but today's efforts deserve a bouquet.

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« 2008-Dec-27, 03:21 PM Reply #2 »
and if the split didn't come  ;).

Todays bouquets.

Amy Hermann at Gawler with a treble by race 5 including 2 at $20+ and two of the best rides you'll  see in the last two at mornington by Michelle Payne.

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« 2008-Dec-27, 04:46 PM Reply #3 »
and a $7 winner in the last to wrap up half the card fo Amy Hermann.  8-)

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« 2008-Dec-27, 06:38 PM Reply #4 »
if Mcevoy deserves one What about the PUMPERS EFFORT IN THE lAST

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« 2008-Dec-27, 06:56 PM Reply #5 »
Dean Holland.

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« 2008-Dec-29, 09:07 AM Reply #6 »
Management, a suggestion....

Call this thread RIDERS IN RETRO: Brickbats and Bouquets.

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« 2008-Dec-29, 10:37 AM Reply #7 »
Surely the initiator should be given the courtesy of being involved in the renaming of his/her thread.

I deliberatately named it as I did so that I (and maybe others) could quickly locate it.

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« 2008-Dec-29, 11:04 AM Reply #8 »
RIDERS IN RETRO:
I don't even know what that means, but then again I am a dumb :censored:

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« 2008-Dec-29, 11:07 AM Reply #9 »
Gratlog please see Posting images 1 2 3 (last)

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« 2008-Dec-29, 11:13 AM Reply #10 »
Mr Gratlog

"Retro" is short for "retrograde".

So this thread is now about Brickbats and Bouquets for jockeys in decline, those whose careers are coming to an end.

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« 2008-Dec-29, 11:31 AM Reply #11 »
As in Racing Retro....that's a show on Sky Channel.

Maybe it means "retrospect"  :noteworthy:

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« 2008-Dec-29, 11:36 AM Reply #12 »
What it all comes down to is, which jockeys were unlucky and which one were lucky.  :sweat:

It is impossible to judge jockeys on these tight turning tracks other than to judge their LUCK. Except their BALANCE.  :wacko:

Flemington is the only reasonably fair track we have in this country. To think otherwise is to be in denial.  8)

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« 2008-Dec-29, 11:40 AM Reply #13 »
I think it's a lot more than luck.  It's reasonable, IMO, to express a view about a jockey's good or bad rides.  No one's suggesting they be shot at dawn.  Well, I'm not. :unsu

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« 2008-Dec-29, 12:24 PM Reply #14 »
Sorry JWH, would you like me to change it back ?

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« 2008-Dec-29, 12:33 PM Reply #15 »
Should be called,

"Little :censored: that have just cost me money , and now I want to give them a blast"

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« 2008-Dec-29, 07:04 PM Reply #16 »
Yes, please.

It makes more sense to this simple soul.

I've already had it moved to the "Jockey's Room" without consultation. Which reminded me of my first day at paid work when I was given a clip under the ear by the tea lady for placing the the teaspoons in the tray that she had designated for dessert spoons.

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« 2008-Dec-29, 07:17 PM Reply #17 »
Mr Magic

That's not what was the original, but, hey, it ain't that important.


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« 2008-Dec-29, 08:35 PM Reply #18 »
No mate, it is ... I should have asked first, so Sorry

what was it again ?

 :shy:
« Last Edit: 2008-Dec-29, 08:38 PM by MagiC~* »

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« 2009-Jan-20, 08:28 PM Reply #19 »
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« Last Edit: 2009-Oct-31, 02:10 PM by JWesleyHarding »

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« 2009-Jan-21, 07:53 AM Reply #20 »
What it all comes down to is, which jockeys were unlucky and which one were lucky.  :sweat:


I reckon most punters get analysing jockeys performances wrong because they focus on what happens in the last 600  where a lot is left to luck.

Punters seem to overlook that many races are won and lost in the first 300m when a jockey quickly sums up the pace of the race and is able to position his horse in the right or wrong place.

Good jockeys do this better and more regularly than the rest. Some of it is courage(its the same blokes/girls who regularly get posted 3 and 4 wide) some of it is quick thinking, some of it is horsemanship but very little is luck. 

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« 2009-Jan-21, 08:40 AM Reply #21 »
certain jockeys seem to be able to jump horses out on the speed better than others, certain jockeys very rarely look for a gap they mostly circle the field when coming from the rear.
one of the secrets when doing form and trying to find the edge is knowing each riders habits.

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« 2009-Jan-21, 09:00 AM Reply #22 »
The way it is half the time with some jocks that are on ordinary horses & i mean really rough hopes in the race. they get out  there with no game plan. & they'll just be happy to settle where ever they end up in the run. &  hoping the horse can find another leg or two once heads turn for home with all horses spread out like browns cows which they do today. how many times do we see horses coming from the clouds from no where & getting up..& all of a sudden  you'll say to ya self i didn't even know that thing was even in the race  looking at your paper.  

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« 2009-Jan-21, 09:12 AM Reply #23 »
And the funny thing about it is to. after that horse as got up around that 40/1 or more odds.  they go for the jock change with the more high profile jock. starts alot shorter ridden alot differ . result being down the gurgler   :lol:

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« 2009-Jan-21, 10:47 AM Reply #24 »
thats what i like about backn the kids leon, they seem to ride
everything like it is a good chance hence the apps ridn plenty of winners
at juicy odds


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