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O.P. « 2007-Aug-25, 02:18 PM »
Chris Munces family are having a (give us money night)
we will not be going, as he can sell one of his many properties to pay his way out of Hong Kong
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« 2007-Aug-25, 04:01 PM Reply #1 »
I believe it is invitation only LS - lets wait by the mail box lol

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« 2007-Sep-28, 06:27 PM Reply #2 »
I wonder if he will be decent enough to give the same amount they raised to keep his family in the lifestyle they enjoy to charity when he is back riding..if they let him get a license back. ::)

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« 2007-Dec-14, 12:35 AM Reply #3 »
I heard Murrihy being interviewed on RadioTAB (4TAB) on Wednesday about the Fallon trial and then the talk switched to Chris Munce.

Apparently he shares a cell with 24 and there are no beds, pillows or blankets. Murrihy was asked what would happen on his release (from an Aussie jail). Murrihy said he would most likely have to front the HKJC as a result of the court findings. He said he could face suspension although time served in jail may count as part of suspension.

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« 2008-Oct-22, 04:56 PM Reply #4 »
The HKJC released a statement yesterday advising they were reconvening their inquiry into Chris Munce's ICAC 'conspiracy for an agent to accept advantages' charges on 3 November.

Munce will be released next week on 31 October from Silverwater prison.  It is not known if Munce will have to travel to HK to attend the inquiry.
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« 2008-Oct-22, 04:58 PM Reply #5 »
Thought I heard that he won't have to go back to HK but can do what is needed by video link

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« 2008-Oct-28, 10:36 AM Reply #7 »
If they give him time ..... would be ok if they use the time already spent not riding as his suspension, makes sense to me that he has already done his time

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« 2008-Oct-28, 11:13 AM Reply #8 »
I admit I'm not sure about all the ins and outs with ths story but I do feel sorry for him and more so his family.

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« 2008-Nov-05, 07:41 PM Reply #10 »
Chris Munce charged with 36 breaches of Hong Kong Jockey Club rules

Hong Kong Jockey Club
 
The Racing Stewards of The Hong Kong Jockey Club, on 3 November 2008, reconvened their inquiry which was opened on 5 July 2006 into allegations Christopher Munce had been involved in a "tips-for-bets bribery scam". Further evidence was taken from Christopher Munce and additional documents were formally tendered into evidence.

The Racing Stewards have resolved that Christopher Munce be formally charged with thirty-six (36) breaches of The Hong Kong Jockey Club Rules of Racing. The following charges have been preferred against Mr Munce:-

(i) Three (3) breaches of Rule of Racing 155(17) which states:- "No person shall improperly obtain information about a trial, or about any horse in training from any owner, trainer, jockey or anybody else employed in a racing or training stable or in the services of the owner or trainer of such horse; and no person shall improperly make such information available."

These charges relate to the following races conducted under the Rules of Racing of The Hong Kong Jockey Club during the 2005/2006 Racing Season:-

Race 10 (Cameron Handicap - Race 225) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 3 December 2005 (EASY GAME)
Race 9 (London Handicap - Race 241) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 11 December 2005 (SIROCCO)
Race 9 (Melbourne Racing Club Handicap - Race 588) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 7 May 2006 (CHATER SILK)
(ii) Thirty-two (32) breaches of Rule of Racing 59(3) which states:- "No jockey shall bet or have any interest in a bet on any race."

These charges relate to the following races conducted under the Rules of Racing of The Hong Kong Jockey Club during the 2005/2006 Racing Season:-

Race 7 (The Chinese General Chamber Of Commerce Cup - Race 248) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 14 December 2005 (EASY GAME)
Race 8 (Guizhou Handicap - Race 249) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 14 December 2005 (DON RICARDO)
Race 8 (Chek Keng Handicap - Race 267) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 21 December 2005 (GOOD NATURE)
Race 6 (Heilongjiang Handicap - Race 283) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 1 January 2006 (RELY ON ME)
Race 10 (Huang He Handicap - Race 287) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 1 January 2006 (DREAM HORSE)
Race 8 (Causeway Handicap - Race 295) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 4 January 2006 (GOOD NATURE)
Race 1 (University Road Handicap - Race 314) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 15 January 2006 (TOP STITCH)
Race 9 (Fairy King Prawn Handicap - Race 340) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 22 January 2006 (CLEAN SWEEP)
Race 9 (Kung Hei Handicap - Race 358) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 31 January 2006 (DON FELIPE)
Race 10 (Daffodil Handicap - Race 359) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 31 January 2006 (GOOD NATURE)
Race 1 (Crooked Island Handicap - Race 360) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 5 February 2006 (CALCANDO)
Race 5 (Ninepin Group Handicap - Race 364) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 5 February 2006 (NATURAL NINE)
Race 2 (Canal Handicap - Race 389) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 15 February 2006 (RED STORM RISING)
Race 4 (Sports Handicap - Race 391) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 15 February 2006 (BUDDIES SPIRIT)
Race 8 (Wong Nai Chung Handicap - Race 395) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 15 February 2006 (CAPE PRINCE)
Race 5 (Attlee Handicap - Race 540) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 19 April 2006 (FUJIAN PRINCE)
Race 8 (Eden Handicap - Race 543) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 19 April 2006 (SUPER HONEY)
Race 1 (D'Aguilar Handicap - Race 554) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 26 April 2006 (SOUTHERN LIGHT)
Race 8 (Arbuthnot Handicap - Race 561) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 26 April 2006 (VISIONNAIRE)
Race 2 (Tung Tau Handicap - Race 573) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 3 May 2006 (KIWI DASH)
Race 1 (Tsang Tai Uk Plate - Race 615) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 21 May 2006 (UNIQUE SPEED)
Race 10 (Lion Rock Handicap - Race 624) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 21 May 2006 (DAY OR NIGHT)
Race 1 (Palmerston North Handicap - Race 625) conducted at Happy Valley Racecourse on 24 May 2006 (KIWI DASH)
Race 6 (Housemaster Handicap - Race 638) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 28 May 2006 (VITALITY CHAMP)
Race 10 (Super Win Handicap - Race 642) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 28 May 2006 (WINNING SUCCESS)
Race 5 (University Hall Alumni Handicap - Race 665) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 10 June 2006 (BOREAS)
Race 9 (Faculty Of Business And Economics Alumni Handicap - Race 669) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 10 June 2006 (CRYSTAL)
Race 5 (Health Handicap - Race 685) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 25 June 2006 (WINDICATOR)
Race 10 (Education & Training Handicap - Race 690) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 25 June 2006 (CRYSTAL)
Race 5 (Schnitzer Handicap - Race 703) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 2 July 2006 (DOUBLE FANTASY)
Race 9 (Golden Years Handicap - Race 707) conducted at Sha Tin Racecourse on 2 July 2006 (DOWN TOWN) (2 charges)
(iii) One (1) breach of Rules of Racing 150 and 151(9).
Rule 150 states:- "Any person found guilty of a corrupt, fraudulent or improper act or practice whether or not his conduct constitutes a breach of any other of these Rules may be declared a disqualified person or be otherwise penalised by the Stewards of the Jockey Club or the Stewards in accordance with their powers."

Rule 151(9) states:- "Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing Rule, a person shall be guilty of a corrupt, fraudulent or improper practice if he is guilty of or conspires with any other person for the commission of or connives at any other person being guilty of any corrupt or fraudulent practice in relation to racing in any other country or is convicted of any criminal offence in relation to racing in The Hong Kong SAR or any other territory."

This charge is particularized as follows:-

Christopher James Munce, on the 1st day of March 2007, being the holder of a jockey's licence issued by The Hong Kong Jockey Club for the 2005/2006 Racing Season, was found guilty of a criminal offence in that he was convicted by His Honour Judge Browne in the District Court of The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (Criminal Case No. 839 of 2006) of the offence of Conspiracy to Accept Advantages contrary to Section 9(1)(a) of the Prevention of Bribery Ordinance Cap. 201 and Sections 159A and 159C of the Crimes Ordinance Cap. 200, which offence related to horse racing in The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region.

The inquiry will be continued, via video link, on 17 November 2008 at 10:00 am Hong Kong Time, which is 1:00 pm Eastern Australian Summer Time. At that time the Racing Stewards will hear and determine the charges which have been brought against Christopher Munce.


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« 2008-Nov-05, 07:42 PM Reply #11 »
Wonder what will happen now.

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« 2008-Nov-05, 08:47 PM Reply #12 »
He'll be given another years suspension .... whoopy doooooo ....

He should be banned for life imo ....

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« 2008-Nov-11, 07:42 PM Reply #13 »
Chris Munce was yesterday given a conditional jockey’s licence to recommence race riding, subject to additional conditions:

a. that Munce make himself available to the Hong Kong Jockey Club with respect to the Steward’s inquiry that commenced on Monday, 3rd November 2008, and comply with any commitment given by him in respect to such inquiry or investigation;

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b. that Munce comply with any and all conditions or directions issued by or that may be issued by the NSW Corrective Services Department or other relevant disciplinary authority that form part of his custodial sentence for involvement in a “tips-for-bets” arrangement when licensed as a Jockey and riding in Hong Kong in 2006.

Munce intends to commence riding trackwork on Tuesday, November 11 at Randwick to regain his fitness.

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« 2008-Nov-15, 08:51 PM Reply #14 »
Hong Kong Jockey Club
 
Hong Kong Jockey Club stewards have acceded to a request made on behalf of Christopher Munce for the inquiry involving himself which was opened on 5 July 2006 and continued on 3 November 2008 and which was scheduled to reconvene on Monday, 17 November 2008 to be delayed.

As a date to reconvene the inquiry is yet to be finalized, the inquiry stands adjourned.
 

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« 2008-Nov-17, 07:54 PM Reply #15 »
He'll be given another years suspension .... whoopy doooooo ....

He should be banned for life imo ....

Woody, are just winding us up or do you really think that he deserves a life ban?

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« 2008-Nov-18, 05:01 PM Reply #16 »
IMO he should be banned for life from riding racehorses in organised races ....

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« 2008-Dec-01, 04:12 PM Reply #17 »
Munce stood down from track work.

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« 2008-Dec-01, 05:20 PM Reply #18 »
Surprise, surprise ......... another year ..... whoooopppiiii dooooooooo !!

Rub him out for life and that way NO MONEY will be wasted keeping an eye on him. He doesn't deserve to return to professional horse riding .......

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« 2008-Dec-01, 05:59 PM Reply #19 »
I thought it it had been suggested on 927 that it might be 30 months, subject to appeal.

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« 2008-Dec-01, 07:15 PM Reply #20 »
30 months which ends in September 2009 ......

Racing doesn't need him and racing's image will suffer even more with him involved with it ....

This offence was serious enough for him to be jailed for quite sometime .....

Yes I believe he has done his time but that is no reason to give him the same toys to play with again ....... he can go play with other toys ... like a broom..or shovel ..

and yes, every jockey in Australia would have passed on "tips" at some stage and probably had a bet but not every jockey in Australia gets an OFFER to ride in HK where the RULES are VERY, VERY CLEAR and if those rules are broken the consequences will be devastating ...

Find another job Munce ....... racing is far better off without the likes of a greedy little bastard like yourself ..... and anyone who supports his return to riding is a supporter of corruption imo ....

p.s. how many did you NOT get caught for ? 
« Last Edit: 2008-Dec-01, 07:18 PM by woodywob »

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« 2008-Dec-02, 06:08 AM Reply #21 »
and anyone who supports his return to riding is a supporter of corruption imo ....

Yes I want him back riding. We need some decent riders in Sydney.

Tell me anyone better there at the moment.

Of course I support corruption. That is what makes the world go around. :beer:
« Last Edit: 2008-Dec-02, 08:17 AM by gratlog »

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« 2008-Dec-02, 04:36 PM Reply #22 »
So if there was a lack of childcare workers you would support a convicted pedophile returning to childcare just because he's good with children ? Give him the same "toys" to play with .... oh but it will be ok, we'll pay someone $100k a year just to keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't reoffend ??

Get real .......... no where else bar the horse racing industry would a person be supported to return to the place and do the same work he so dishonestly did beforehend .....

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« 2008-Dec-02, 05:15 PM Reply #23 »
Come on . That is a silly comparison.

Should Jim Cassidy still be riding.  He didn't serve on day behind bars , did he?

I could be wrong here, as I cannot remember, but what was Craig Newitt guilty of.

Should Lee Freedman ever have been allowed back? (of course he should have, but what he was guilty of didn't help the racing game much.)

You could name heaps if you wanted to I reckon.

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« 2008-Dec-02, 08:14 PM Reply #24 »
You keep missing the point mate .....



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