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Offline ACER

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« 2016-Oct-14, 09:07 PM Reply #225 »
Peter I don't think I have ever seen you agree with any penalties handed out by stewards. It was hardly a shoulder charge. If you don't think he deserved a lengthy spell on the sidelines you are dreaming. He was just lucky there weren't more horses surrounding him and they werent turning for home otherwise it could have been disastrous.

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« 2016-Oct-15, 06:54 AM Reply #226 »
Hmmm,

On one's rght to appeal....

I'd like to appeal Olivers time spent banned for betting on another horse in his race.

Out for life was the only term possible if stewrads actually are serious about credibility and integrity.And no I am not pulling your leg as just that has caused such a ban in the past and in my view is far less serious.

Fours

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« 2016-Oct-15, 10:45 AM Reply #227 »
Peter I don't think I have ever seen you agree with any penalties handed out by stewards. It was hardly a shoulder charge. If you don't think he deserved a lengthy spell on the sidelines you are dreaming. He was just lucky there weren't more horses surrounding him and they weren't turning for home otherwise it could have been disastrous.

Hi Acer,

I also get totally confused with PM's rants.

In one earlier post PM is pushing for the race outcome to have been a disqualification for Flying Artie and relegated back to last as per the USA rules but now Oliver's ride wasn't all that bad.

I feel we have to come to the conclusion that PM isn't playing with the full deck or he is one of the best "wind ups" ever.

Have a good weekend.

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« 2016-Oct-15, 12:43 PM Reply #228 »
He could be saying, If the interference and riding actions were worthy of 20 meeting then the race should have been taken off the horse and connections.

I tend to agree, There is not enough of a motivation for jockeys not to ride dangerously. Take the race off them than it will not be worth their while causing interference unless of course Oliver uses one of the bookies who pays first across the line.


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« 2016-Oct-16, 07:41 AM Reply #229 »

DO has had so much trauma from race falls to suggest he would not be deliberately reckless.

Watching the video there  is an explanation for what happened.

That said I am in favour of disqualification decisions because it removes the incentive for careless and not-careful riding -- and there is no joy for the connections.

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« 2016-Oct-16, 09:44 AM Reply #230 »
I take it you mean "no explanation"

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« 2016-Oct-20, 06:48 PM Reply #231 »
Rate Olly as one of Melb best jockeys, but Danish Twist ride very poor effort.
 

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« 2016-Oct-24, 07:39 PM Reply #232 »
Ollie guilty as charged that's what learned VCAT Judge Pamela Jenkins concluded but she has taken the night to sleep on it .....whether the penalty is appropriate ........it may be reduced or then again it may be increased....... :o most unlikely.

Giddy Up :beer:
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« 2016-Oct-26, 05:04 PM Reply #233 »
https://www.racing.com/news/2016-10-25/olivers-20-meeting-ban-stands-at-vcat

No sympathy for Ollie from the good lady judge the words attributed to her make me wonder why she didn't increase the penalty.

The Video of the race shows included in the above link no light at all on the incident...the head on view did reveal a shoulder charge but it didn't appear to have  caused any catastrophe as the term of suspension suggests.

Giddy Up :beer:

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2016-Oct-26, 08:12 PM Reply #234 »


Tommy Berry rubbed out today for riding at a mid-week meeting -- why do they ride in rubbish races?

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« 2016-Oct-26, 10:03 PM Reply #235 »
Because they love what they do . .

Because they love the game . .

Because they realise that 'rubbish racing' is important to those participants who are unlucky lucky enough not to live in metropolitan areas

 :bleh: :bleh:

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« 2016-Oct-27, 08:16 AM Reply #236 »


There is an element of common sense in the question.

The best jockeys owe it to their sponsors and the racing public to ensure that they are able to ride in the most important races.

The best jockeys do not go to midweek meetings intending to get suspended -- rather they are put in situations where inflated fields and low grade horses are a recipe for problems for which jockeys are blamed instead of administrators.

What, ever at this time of the year, our best jockeys are well advised to avoid unnecessary risks.

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« 2017-Oct-28, 06:06 PM Reply #237 »
Copped 20 meetings for rough house tactics in the Cox Plate.


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« 2017-Oct-28, 07:43 PM Reply #238 »
What was he thinking in  :wacko:  :o

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2017-Oct-29, 04:35 AM Reply #239 »


DO can be hard to fathom in terms of aggression

 -- the ride on Bonneval, as favourite, a couple of weeks back probably erred on the side of being a bit passive, other times he gets pinged for trying too hard, riding too competitively, -- sometimes on runners not really up to the race.

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« 2017-Oct-29, 05:22 AM Reply #240 »
Hmmm,

Oliver trying to keep Yendal mid week and non metro?

Not the first time he's gone after him.

Fours

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« 2017-Oct-30, 12:54 PM Reply #241 »
Deserved to be outed for a lot longer.

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« 2017-Oct-30, 05:30 PM Reply #242 »


Perhaps the appeal panel could explore with DO his different inclinations to be 'active' or 'passive'.

Asking for comment on replays of a couple of recent races may be the go  -- the punters would like an explanation of why one horse with not much chance was crowding another and, in another race,  why a favourite was 'out the back'.

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« 2017-Oct-30, 05:53 PM Reply #243 »
Appeal dismissed.

Frankie riding Almandin in the cup.

Online wily ole dog

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« 2017-Oct-31, 06:39 AM Reply #244 »


Frankie riding Almandin in the cup.


Bloody hell, I can tear up my tickets with that cowboy on it :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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« 2017-Oct-31, 04:56 PM Reply #245 »
At least you'll be wide and out of trouble Wily   :lol:

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« 2017-Oct-31, 07:17 PM Reply #246 »
No surprise that the RAD board found no merit in allowing any part of Oliver's appeal penalty to stand.
 

https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/files/rad-board/rad-board-appeal-result-and-reasons---d-oliver-2017-10-30.pdf?la=en


Giddy Up :beer:


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