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« 2021-Sep-13, 04:34 PM Reply #25 »
Jamie Kah pleads ‘not guilty’ to allegedly lying




Jockey Jamie Kah faces extra penalty for allegedly misleading Stewards. Pictu Alex Coppel
Jockey Jamie Kah faces extra penalty for allegedly misleading Stewards. Pictu Alex Coppel
By Gilbert Gardiner
01:54pm • 13 September 2021
The Victorian Racing Tribunal will deliver its decision on Wednesday whether Jamie Kah allegedly gave false and/or misleading evidence to Stewards during the Mornington Airbnb party probe.

It followed a two-hour contested hearing on Monday in which barrister Raelene Sharp, acting for Racing Victoria, in submissions said Kah elected not to “disclose” Mark Zahra attended the gathering.

Kah, who is suspended until late November for attending the party, pleaded not guilty to the charge.

The Tribunal heard Stewards asked Kah multiple times in separate interviews on August 26-27 and 30 about who attended the house party.

It was not until Stewards, on August 30, asked Kah about Zahra specifically she confirmed his attendance.

When asked why she “didn't identify” Zahra earlier Kah claimed to understand the Stewards’ question of “who ended up there” as relating to when Victoria Police attended the house following a noise complaint.

“Well, look, you never actually asked me if Mark was there and I, from your question, when you said ‘who ended up being there’,” Kah told Stewards on August 30.

“I just thought you meant ‘who ended up there’, meaning, you know, the cops who came … it was late into the night and there were the people that were there.

“They were the reason why the cops came why there was the noise complaint.”

Kah’s barrister Damian Sheales on Monday based the defence on the Stewards’ generic questioning and validity of the “misguided” charge of giving false or misleading evidence when “the stewards didn’t ask”.

“The main argument is you cannot seek to prove a false statement by omission. Full stop,” Sheales said.

Sharp said it is “implausible” for Kah to suggest the question ‘who was present’ related solely to when police arrived.

“It was clear she was asked who was present,” Sharp said.

“She said there were five but that was false.”

The Tribunal heard suspended apprentice jockey Celine Gaudray was responsible for inviting fellow riders to Kah’s rental.

Kah, in the first of three interviews with Stewards from August 26-30, said she asked Gaudray “to come over” as she needed “someone to talk to”.

Initial questions of Kah by Stewards related to the Airbnb address and arrival and departure times.

Kah would then be asked whether she invited the other jockeys implicated into the Covid breach – Ben Melham, Ethan Brown and Gaudray.

Stewards at this time were unaware of Zahra’s attendance and nor was it volunteered by Kah.

According to a “portion” of Kah’s interview on August 26, as relayed by Sharp to the Tribunal, the exchange between the top jockey and chairman of stewards Robert Cram included:

Chairman: Did you invite the other people to attend?

Kah: No, that was not my intention. I did message Celine, we’re quite good friends and I just thought I needed someone to talk to, at the moment.

Kah: I wasn’t really planning on her staying but I just asked her to come over and the rest of them came over too.

Chairman: Who are the rest of them?

Kah identified Brown and Melham “and their friend”, one of two unlicensed (non-racing) people at the gathering.

Chairman: Was there another female there?

Kah: Yeah, there was another girl (not known to Kah) later on.

The Tribunal heard Kah left the house at about 10am on August 26.

Gaudray last Friday was found guilty of giving false and/or misleading evidence and subsequently handed an eight-week ban, of which six weeks would be suspended for two years.

The Tribunal will return on Wednesday to announce the Kah decision.

Judge John Bowman on Monday said a decision in the Zahra case would be delivered on Tuesday.

Melham and Brown will front the Tribunal later in the week.

ENDS

Toss of the coin job ..... maybe a slight leaning to RV argument ..that's my toss.

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« 2021-Sep-13, 08:18 PM Reply #26 »
So with your mind set anyone who has been charged with a COVID breach should be suspended from their employment for a period of time?  :chin:

Yep GroupThink certainly has taken over Gin. Heaven help anyone who thinks for themselves and posts a slightly different opinion on social media that doesn't fit in with GroupThink. Out come the trolls.

Kah is a kid. Like all those other kids who decided enough is enough and went to Bondi Beach yesterday.

Wonder if they will all be fined and then suspended from their jobs for three months.

I have a problem with woke Health Dept officials insisting that our kids go last on the vaccine list. That sets a great example that does  :wacko:

What a gross over-reaction.

Zahra should have known better.

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« 2021-Sep-13, 08:36 PM Reply #27 »
Yep GroupThink certainly has taken over Gin. Heaven help anyone who thinks for themselves and posts a slightly different opinion on social media that doesn't fit in with GroupThink. Out come the trolls.

Kah is a kid. Like all those other kids who decided enough is enough and went to Bondi Beach yesterday.

Wonder if they will all be fined and then suspended from their jobs for three months.

I have a problem with woke Health Dept officials insisting that our kids go last on the vaccine list. That sets a great example that does  :wacko:

What a gross over-reaction.

Zahra should have known better.

She is 25 and hardly a kid , she knew what she was doing and saying.

Simple , don't tell lies

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« 2021-Sep-13, 08:41 PM Reply #28 »
The trouble with intellectual vacuums like PP is that they are not capable of discerning obvious differences which are apparent to others with a greater intellect. The Racing Industry ; thankfully, has enjoyed far greater freedoms than many other Industries /Activities etc through this entire Covid period. With that ; comes some responsibilities to allow the whole Industry to continue , proceed and prosper. Sadly these donkeys at Mornington were not able to realize the implications of their actions. And even worse they lacked the intestinal fortitude to own up to them when challenged. I certainly would rather the Industry to continue to operate rather than waste time dwelling on individuals who selfishly disregarded the continued employment of thousands of others for the sake of their own night of pleasure.

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« 2021-Sep-13, 08:53 PM Reply #29 »
She is 25 and hardly a kid , she knew what she was doing and saying.

Simple , don't tell lies

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My 26 yo son said to us yesterday that a lot of kids his age are pissed off that "the adults" used up all the Pfizer vaccine while they had to wait. And I think he had a good point. There was plenty of AZ but selfish parents went first. I've always thought that you look after your kids first then yourself afterwards - excluding aged people from this argument as they should have gone first and did.

The big crowds of kids at Bondi and Cronulla yesterday were a collective "f. off" to all the adults IMO.   :lol:

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« 2021-Sep-13, 09:01 PM Reply #30 »
The trouble with intellectual vacuums like PP is that they are not capable of discerning obvious differences which are apparent to others with a greater intellect.

Thank you fours  :sleep:

The Racing Industry ; thankfully, has enjoyed far greater freedoms than many other Industries /Activities etc through this entire Covid period. With that ; comes some responsibilities to allow the whole Industry to continue , proceed and prosper. Sadly these donkeys at Mornington were not able to realize the implications of their actions. And even worse they lacked the intestinal fortitude to own up to them when challenged. I certainly would rather the Industry to continue to operate rather than waste time dwelling on individuals who selfishly disregarded the continued employment of thousands of others for the sake of their own night of pleasure.

You should listen to yourself.

Most of them were kids. They made a mistake. They said sorry.

It doesn't need a Spanish Inquisition.

Methinks the "rule book readers" like to comment to hear their own voices rather than any genuine concern about a poker night.


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« 2021-Sep-13, 10:24 PM Reply #31 »
For some time I thought Mair was the dumbest  correspondent on this forum . A thousand apologies to him ; PP laps him . Zahra, Melham, Kah are kids in his  eyes. Dead set no one in residence with that bloke.

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« 2021-Sep-13, 10:40 PM Reply #32 »

Jamie Kah gets a free kick

                   -- if others appealing get a reduction, so does she.

This is a muskateers job-lot.

It now looks like a mouseketeers job lot.

......... no one involved realized this was a breach of the rules ........ among 'club members'.

[I am pleased that 'gunner' has seen the light.]




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« 2021-Sep-13, 10:50 PM Reply #33 »
At the end, Kah did the crime and is paying the penalty as well as Zahra, Melham etc. Yes, it is an expensive exercise but they all know racing has been granted special status.

The rugby league players who have been busted doing the same have lost contracts or paid proportionate to their salaries. AFL did the same so it is not like the jockeys had no idea they were going to be punished if caught.

Now on a more interesting side note, would anyone complaining about the severity about Kah’s penalty be equally indignant about Loy’s punishment for allegedly calling the Premier of NSW names?

Loy was exercising his freedom of speech criticising the laws while Kah broke the law. Penalties are the same so you could argue if Loy deserves 3 months as per NSW stewards, Kah deserves longer.

The interesting situation is Carmody and Thompson are facing sanctions for alleged breaches in NSW. It will be interesting to see how the NSW stewards rate this compared to Kah and Loy.

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« 2021-Sep-13, 10:54 PM Reply #34 »

Loy will be found to be 'not guilty'

                                                   ................... if not, it is others who are

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« 2021-Sep-13, 11:04 PM Reply #35 »
Jamie Kah gets a free kick

                   -- if others appealing get a reduction, so does she.

This is a muskateers job-lot.

It now looks like a mouseketeers job lot.

......... no one involved realized this was a breach of the rules ........ among 'club members'.

[I am pleased that 'gunner' has seen the light.]

Yes you and him are "brothers in thought" now Pete. I won't need to read his posts any more as I know you speak for him....so I can put him on Ignore.

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« 2021-Sep-13, 11:08 PM Reply #36 »

Loy was exercising his freedom of speech criticising the laws while Kah broke the law. Penalties are the same so you could argue if Loy deserves 3 months as per NSW stewards, Kah deserves longer.


No the really interesting thing is that you are supporting Israel Folau now I assume.

Or perhaps we can come up with a reason why Izzy's freedom of speech is different to Brodie Loy's  :chin:

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« 2021-Sep-14, 09:37 AM Reply #37 »
No the really interesting thing is that you are supporting Israel Folau now I assume.

Or perhaps we can come up with a reason why Izzy's freedom of speech is different to Brodie Loy's  :chin:

No difference between Folau and Loy or the country trainer who criticised V’landys.

The issue with Folau was that he may have signed a non social media agreement but the fact that he finished the winner with a nice settlement implies  that contractually he is in the right.

Now anyone who has an opinion in the public has to face people who extol opposing views especially if you are criticising people of certain persuasion. That’s Folau’s issue as people will campaign against views which is also the right of the people to do so.

Free speech works both ways. But unfortunately people who criticise don’t want to be criticised back or have their products be boycotted. That is freedom of choice too. 

In the case of Loy and the country trainer who criticised V’landys, it seems that Racing NSW stewards have the same control like the ARU. Thus anyone backing Folau should back Loy and the country trainer. So if they are clamping down on Loy, will they clamp down on anyone who has anti vax views too as that is against NSW Government policy.

The stewards case against Carmody and Thompson will be an interesting precedent too.


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« 2021-Sep-14, 02:45 PM Reply #38 »
In spite of what some will think, I have never, ever had a problem with people criticizing V'Landys.

The problem arises because some people hate him with a real passion. Wily has started calling this V'Landys Derangement Syndrome because the behaviour is very much like Trump Derangement Syndrome.

With Trump, anyone who was seen to support him (important word that seen) would get both barrels from TDS sufferers.

However, as with Trump, some people like myself point out the exaggerations in these hate posts and then we too become the targets of TDS (or VDS) sufferers.

You want to criticize V'Landys? Go knock yourself out.

But don't "go off" if people like me pick you up on anything that is exaggerated.

The projection that V'Landy's is personally responsible for cruelty of horses in NSW is an exaggeration.


Back on thread, I think people should leave Jamie Kah alone. She is in her twenties, living away from home and she snuck out for a night.

Then she gets a suspension that is more than Tommy Berry got for causing the death of a horse and put Brenton Avdulla in hospital with a broken neck.

Fair dinkum some people cannot see the forest because of the trees.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 03:01 PM Reply #39 »
Fancy getting a lecture like this from you.

Did you ever in your life think that someone might know someone who knows the ABC reporter on the end of your accusations on the "Final Race" thread.
I would think unless you can fully  support your claims about her on here...well you have a bit to think about!

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« 2021-Sep-14, 03:35 PM Reply #40 »
In spite of what some will think, I have never, ever had a problem with people criticizing V'Landys.

The problem arises because some people hate him with a real passion. Wily has started calling this V'Landys Derangement Syndrome because the behaviour is very much like Trump Derangement Syndrome.

With Trump, anyone who was seen to support him (important word that seen) would get both barrels from TDS sufferers.

However, as with Trump, some people like myself point out the exaggerations in these hate posts and then we too become the targets of TDS (or VDS) sufferers.

You want to criticize V'Landys? Go knock yourself out.

But don't "go off" if people like me pick you up on anything that is exaggerated.

The projection that V'Landy's is personally responsible for cruelty of horses in NSW is an exaggeration.


Back on thread, I think people should leave Jamie Kah alone. She is in her twenties, living away from home and she snuck out for a night.

Then she gets a suspension that is more than Tommy Berry got for causing the death of a horse and put Brenton Avdulla in hospital with a broken neck.

Fair dinkum some people cannot see the forest because of the trees.

PP, the only reason V’landys was mentioned is that Racing NSW Stewards have form for anyone who criticises authority on social media and Loy was part of the argument. 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about V’landys. I personally think he has done a good job on most regards especially in last few years and NRL. But people are entitled to opinion and like Folau, it is free speech. Calling it a derangement syndrome for anyone who criticises him is pointless and against free speech. Free speech means anyone’s opinions  can be heard without resorting to names based on political beliefs. However let’s not pollute this thread.

Loy should be given a warning and move on.

Back on Kah, the sentence could be too severe. A month would have sufficed as she had no form and it seems a one off mistake. Rubbing her out for the lucrative months is almost like a 6-8 month suspension.

Compare this to Ollie and how he was allowed to ride before given a suspension after the spring carnival and expire just in time for the spring carnival.

The NSW trainers being investigated are a lot more interesting in my view if the allegations are true and there maybe regular breaches too. It also came out that some people changed addresses in Sydney to show they were outside the LGA. I wonder if the stewards will check out the living arrangements etc or have the power to do so .


https://www.racenet.com.au/news/thompson-carmody-to-front-stewards-inquiry-later-this-week-20210911


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« 2021-Sep-14, 07:12 PM Reply #41 »
Calling it a derangement syndrome for anyone who criticises him is pointless and against free speech.

But that is not factually true is it.

We are not calling anyone who criticises him as having VDS. We are not against free speech.

Unlike those who tried to gag Izzy over his religious beliefs.

So I will continue to use the terminology "Derangement Syndrome", and it is not pointless and it is not against free speech.

Those that obsess over V'Landys and exaggerate - I won't be silenced. So watch out  :bop:

Same as Jamie Kah.

It is like I am sharing a forum with a bunch of old women sometimes.

At what point in our history did we start moralizing over a 25yo girl going out at night?

Here's something to moralize about. Jamie's generation is going to have to pay for all this largesse by current politicians who will be entitled to a generous taxpayer funded pension until they die.

What is more outrageous? Jamie sneaking out one night. Or the Qld premier letting footballer's WAGs into Qld whilst causing a Lismore based newborn to die because she banned access to Qld medical health by Northern NSW people.

Why don't we all click our tongues and proselytize about that!!

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« 2021-Sep-14, 07:39 PM Reply #42 »
"It is like I am sharing a forum with a bunch of old women sometimes "

The ultimate sexist as well as all the other baggage this goose carries around. A Trump fan to boot.

EDIT: Abusive part removed. Watch it gunbower.
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« 2021-Sep-14, 07:47 PM Reply #43 »
PP, I don’t know what the obsession with V’landys is but put it on that thread.

Back on Kah, what should her punishment be? Should the NRL and AFL have cracked down on Covid breaches too with heavy fines?

If Kah broke the rules should she be exonerated because of her age. I can guarantee that there are many parties happening in many lockdown states and no one will get caught. Does it make it right, absolutely not but it is life.

In regards to pollies, don’t get me started on the hypocrisy on both parties and that is why I will vote independent. Ana and Dan have dubious standards with who can break quarantine standards etc while Gladys allowed the rich IPL players in front of people who were waiting months, not forgetting Houston and his suite demand. Scotty becoming a Labor pollie by spending billions that he will never pay for or disclose jobkeeper rorters etc.

But again back on Kah, what is a fair penalty for her? What is a fair penalty for Loy? What is a fair penalty for Carmody and Thompson if found guilty?

It is easy to criticise and we do that but what is fair in covid days as it is not normal days?


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« 2021-Sep-15, 08:46 AM Reply #44 »
I can answer two of the under mentioned hypotheticals only because the stewards reported both Thompson and Carmody fined $18,750.

Loy will be represented by Damian Sheals in his appeal to the RNSW Appeals Panel he will get a fair hearing no idea what penalty he will get.
There may be precedents which will influence the panel in deciding what penalty if any h=is appropriate.

Kah's case will be decided today the VRT reserved its decision on Monday .....I'm leaning towards the RV stewards position..my guess is she'll probably get two months one of which will be suspended ......in company with Zahra's penalty .

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« 2021-Sep-15, 08:56 AM Reply #45 »

But again back on Kah, what is a fair penalty for her? What is a fair penalty for Loy? What is a fair penalty for Carmody and Thompson if found guilty?


A (hypothetical) kick up the backside and told don't do it again.

Also tell them "you do it again you will get 3 months".

That'll work and is the way responsible adults should deal with it - and have dealt with it in the past.

Empowerment has gone to woke people who have NFI. They rise to these positions of power and when they are required to think about something they decline and make decisions based on "what the media will say".

You give ,them 3 months then don't expect them to respect you.

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« 2021-Sep-15, 05:15 PM Reply #46 »
Kah’s barrister reveals $1m spring hit in penalty plea
Jamie Kah pleaded not guilty to giving false and or misleading evidence to stewards.
By Gilbert Gardiner
12:02pm • 15 September 2021

Jamie Kah’s barrister has launched an impassioned plea for the Victorian Racing Tribunal to wholly suspend its penalty for the star jockey misleading stewards during the Mornington Airbnb probe.

Barrister Damian Sheales said Kah, who has been through “enough” humiliation, faces the potential of a “world record” penalty for the Covid-19 breach, having lost fancied Cups and Cox Plate rides alone.

Kah is serving a three-month ban for her part in an illegal gathering on August 25, along with Ben Melham, Ethan Brown, Mark Zahra and apprentice jockey Celine Gaudray.

Prior to penalty submissions being heard, the tribunal was unanimous in finding Kah guilty of giving false and/or misleading evidence to stewards during last month‘s the party probe.

The charge stemmed from Kah not being forthcoming about Mark Zahra’s attendance at the short-stay rental.


Barrister Raelene Sharp, acting for Racing Victoria, asked the tribunal to impose a further eight-week ban to be served after the three-month suspension ends in late November.

But during a colourful nine-minute submission, Sheales said the positive effect Kah has had on racing in Victoria, which he likened to Irish stayer Vintage Crop, should be considered.

Vintage Crop in 1993 became the first northern hemisphere galloper to win the Melbourne Cup.

He also asked the tribunal to take into account the “spectacular” cost of Kah sitting out the spring carnival as it is, along with the “public humiliation”.

“She took it (penalty) on the chin,” Sheales said.

“She made a public statement, she has been nothing but dignified in silence since.

“This is a massive penalty, if I may say with respect, it is not hyperbole … this is a world record penalty (for a Covid-19 breach) that she has taken on the chin.

“She’s already missed out on the rides of the winners of the only two Group 1 races this season because she was booked to ride them both (Behemoth and Incentivise).

“They were both $1m races (Memsie and Makybe Diva Stakes) and without slings her percentage is $100,000 so that’s a $100,000 penalty she’s already paid.”

Suspended jockey Jamie Kah could potentially miss out on $1m in prizemoney this spring, according to her barrister.

Kah had been booked to ride Incentivise, firm favourite in Melbourne and Caulfield Cup markets, and was on standby to partner Zaaki, the short-priced Cox Plate elect.

“If those horses win … just on those three races alone and the two races already run and won, it’s a $1m penalty and she doesn’t complain,” Sheales said.

“The penalty she’s paid is just spectacular, surely there comes a time where … enough is enough.”

Kah rewrote Victorian racing history last season, claiming the Melbourne premiership with a record 105 winners.

Her feat culminated in the 25-year-old last Sunday becoming the first woman to be crowned Scobie Breasley medallist and Victorian Jockeys’ Association Most Valuable Jockey.

Judge John Bowman said Kah’s interpretation of a stewards’ question “who ended up there“ as relating to when police arrived is “totally unbelievable”.

Only when asked directly about Zahra in a third interview did Kah confirm Zahra’s attendance.

In the contested hearing last Monday, Sheales said Kah thought stewards meant who was at the house when police arrived late on August 25 following a noise complaint.

Judge Bowman rejected the claim on Wednesday.

“This explanation is far from convincing,” Judge Bowman said.

“Apart from anything else, the point you would’ve told the stewards about Mr Zahra’s presence had you been specifically asked is scarcely inadequate or illogical.”

The tribunal will publish a penalty for Kah at 9am on Friday.

Zahra got eight weeks last Tuesday, including four weeks suspended for two years.

Gaudray last Friday was handed the same penalty with six weeks suspended due to her early guilty plea, age and inexperience.

Melham and Brown will have their cases heard this week.

ENDS

Friday is D Day......looks like Judge Bowman isn't applying the rubber stamp to RV's penalty submission there are other options.

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« 2021-Sep-16, 08:37 PM Reply #47 »
Incentivise owners dispute Jamie Kah’s claims

By Ben Dorries
09:59am • 16 September 2021
Connections of Melbourne and Caulfield Cup favourite Incentivise have flatly rejected claims that Jamie Kah had been booked to ride Peter Moody’s star Group 1 winner.

Kah’s barrister Damian Sheales told the Victorian Racing Tribunal on Wednesday that Kah’s ban for the infamous Airbnb party had already seen her miss out on riding Victoria’s two Group 1 winners this season – Behemoth and Incentivise.

It came as Sheales argued that Kah’s original three month penalty had already been spectacular and any penalty for her guilty finding for misleading stewards during the Airbnb probe should be wholly suspended.

“She’s already missed out on the rides of the winners of the only two Group 1 races this season because she was booked to ride them both (Behemoth and Incentivise),” Sheales argued.

“They were both $1m races (Memsie and Makybe Diva Stakes) and without slings her percentage is $100,000 so that’s a $100,000 penalty she’s already paid.”

However the Incentivise camp insists Kah was never booked for Incentivise in the Makybe Diva or any spring carnival race.

Glen Boss was originally booked for Incentivise but when he was not allowed to enter Victoria via Darwin, connections had been deliberating between Brett Prebble and Kah.

Kah was ruled out when the stewards opened an inquiry into the conduct of Kah and other jockeys at the Airbnb gathering.


The entire Incentivise camp disputes Kah’s claim she was booked to ride the horse which has taken Australian racing by storm.

It is a fascinating development given that was one of the key planks of submissions by Kah’s legal team.

“She was never, ever booked (for Incentivise) – as simple as that, it’s a fact,” part-owner Brae Sokolski told News Corp Australia.

“We were deciding between Brett Prebble and Jamie.

“It is a 100 per cent fact that no decision was made prior to the (stewards) news surfacing about Jamie.

“At the end of the day the decision was made for us, it went from a field of two to a field of one.”


Brae Sokolski says Jamie Kah was never booked to ride Incentivise.

Prebble made the most of his opportunity to ride Incentivise, the exciting former Queensland stayer, claiming an exhilarating win in last Saturday’s Makybe Diva Stakes at Flemington.

Incentivise is the $4.50 favourite for the Caulfield Cup and $8 favourite for the Melbourne Cup, weighted with 55.5kg in both Cups.

Kah has already been suspended for three months and will soon learn whether she faces a further sanction.

The Victorian Racing Tribunal will publish a penalty for Kah’s charge of providing false and/or misleading evidence to Racing Victoria stewards at 9am on Friday.

ENDS

Thought it wasn't so ...............surprising that Damian Sheales was told she had been engaged ..he would have received instructions that was the case ..puts  a big dent in the foregone earnings capacity ...interesting to see if the VRT makes reference to it in their decision tomorrow.

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« 2021-Sep-17, 11:44 AM Reply #48 »
Kah ban extended in latest twist to AirBnB saga
Jamie Kah has been suspended for lying to stewards.
By Gilbert Gardiner
09:28am • 17 September 2021
Jamie Kah has been suspended for two months for giving false and/or misleading evidence to stewards during an inquiry into the Mornington Airbnb gathering.

The Victorian Racing Tribunal delivered the unanimous decision on Friday morning.

Unlike previous cases involving fellow Airbnb attendees Mark Zahra and Celine Gaudray, Kah, who pleaded not guilty to lying to stewards, has been afforded no discount to the new suspension.

It means Kah, who copped a three-month ban for the Covid-19 breach, will be unable to ride in races until the end of January.

Judge John Bowman confirmed the suspension must be served cumulatively.

The charge stemmed from Kah not naming Mark Zahra as an attendee of the gathering on August 25 when asked “who ended up there”.

In a separate interview on August 30 Kah confirmed Zahra attended when asked directly about the jockey.

Kah’s defence is based on the fact she misinterpreted the generic question “who ended up there” as relating to when Victoria Police broke up the gatheringon August 25 following a noise complaint.

It is accepted Zahra only spent a short time at the Tallis Dr address where he had “a couple of drinks” and was not there when local police arrived late at night.

Jamie Kah has now been rubbed out for five months.

In handing down the decision Judge John Bowman said: “When telling stewards who was present you willfully omitted the name of Mr Zahra.

“You did not give his name until directly confronted by stewards (August 30).

“Your evidence was that, while you knew he had been at the premises, you thought the stewards were inquiring about who had been present at a later time.

“We made it clear this is an excuse which we simply do not accept.”

Judge Bowman said the giving of false or misleading evidence, which led to Zahra not being a known participant until August 28, “could have been a calamity” in the event of a Covid-19 outbreak.

The tribunal took into account the “massive potential losses” Kah’s current three-month ban for the Covid breach has financial and for her career generally.

But as they are separate matters – Covid breach and lying – it played no part in the new two-month ban.

Kah, who pleaded not guilty to lying, must serve the eight weeks, as opposed to part suspended.

“You are fully entitled to plead not guilty and it would be wrong to impose a penalty for your doing so, however, no discounting factor in the type related to pleading guilty shall apply,” Judge Bowman said.

The tribunal heard on Wednesday Kah offered to plead guilty to misleading stewards but not the giving of false evidence, based on her interpretation of “who ended up there” being a point in time.

ENDS

Out for five months 3 for Covid +2 for false and misleading  evidence .

Giddy Up :beer:



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« 2021-Sep-17, 03:15 PM Reply #49 »
Who officiates down there.

Judge Roy Bean  :what:



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