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« 2016-Nov-18, 05:24 PM Reply #25 »
It appears your mail is not correct Bubba.

Gardiner has been warned off by racing NSW for refusing to front the stewards.

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« 2016-Nov-18, 07:25 PM Reply #26 »
It appears your mail is not correct Bubba.

Gardiner has been warned off by racing NSW for refusing to front the stewards.


https://www.g1x.com.au/news/racing/anthony-gardiner-warned-off

He refused to attend the inquiry .......any similarity with Neville Clements' case?

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« 2016-Nov-18, 09:05 PM Reply #27 »
Punter Anthony Gardiner warned off Australian racecourses after failing to front Racing NSW stewards in Astern bet probe

November 18, 20167:25pm

Brad Davidson,The Daily Telegraph

ANTHONY Gardiner, the Sydney punter caught up in the James McDonald betting investigation, has been warned off all Australian racecourses and can’t place a bet until he attends Racing NSW headquarters to be interviewed.

Racing NSW chief executive Mr Peter V’landys made the interim decision on Friday as Gardiner’s refusal to provide the information required is hindering stewards’ investigations into potential serious breaches of the rules of racing.

“No individual’s interest should outweigh the confidence of the public, and particularly punters, in the integrity of the industry,” V’landys said.

“Racing NSW has zero tolerance for those that obstruct and hinder the maintenance of the integrity of thoroughbred racing in New South Wales.”

The consequences of being warned off include not being permitted to enter any Australian racecourse or training facility, not being able to have an interest in any thoroughbred racehorse and not being able to place a bet on thoroughbred races with a wagering operator.

It comes as jockey McDonald was earlier this week charged by stewards under rule AR 83 (d) for allegedly having an interest in a bet on Astern, the horse he rode, to win at Randwick on December 5 last year. Astern, who was making his debut, firmed from $4.60 to $3.50 before saluting.

Stewards are not suggesting McDonald, 24, personally placed the bet but believe he had an interest in a wager that was placed.

Stewards were informed of his association with Gardiner at a regular meeting with law enforcement agencies recently.

There is no suggestion Gardiner will be charged or committed any wrongdoing.
James McDonald celebrates after riding Astern to victory on debut last year. Pictu Simon BullardSource:News Corp Australia

Meanwhile, the potential two-year ban McDonald faces if the charge is upheld is not set in stone and could be reduced.

McDonald, Sydney’s champion rider last season, faces a two-year ban under the Australian rules of racing if found guilty but Racing NSW chief steward Marc Van Gestal on Friday confirmed the minimum penalty for rule AR 83 (d) “applies unless stewards establish special circumstances”.

“(Special circumstances) can be a guilty plea, assisting stewards at an early stage of the investigation and there are a few other conditions there- for instance impaired mental functioning or persons under duress,” he said.

“Generally they are the provisions in which we could reduce a mandatory minimum.”

Van Gestel stressed he was speaking in general terms and not specifically about this case.

Australian racing rules around jockeys betting on races were strengthened in March, 2013 in response to the 10-month ban hoop Damien Oliver received in 2012 after admitting to placing a $10,000 bet via a third party on a rival horse.

The updated rules carry a mandatory two-year ban for any jockey who has a bet or interest in a bet on their mount in a race, or any race for that matter even if they aren’t riding in that event.


The mandatory ban increases to three years if the bet relates to a horse the jockey is competing directly against, such as the Oliver scenario in 2012.

Stewards are yet to reveal whether any other jockeys are involved with the McDonald investigation.

“Unless someone is charged with an offence, we won’t be releasing persons names that are being interviewed,” Van Gestel said.

Stewards have not spoken to McDonald since Tuesday when he stood himself down from riding after being issued with the charge.

McDonald faces an uncertain future as the Australian stable rider for Godolphin with a guilty finding likely to see him being replaced in that position.


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« 2016-Nov-18, 09:29 PM Reply #28 »


This is too silly for words -- inconsequential banter of no material consequence, at best, is no invitation for the throwing the book at one of the friends.

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« 2016-Nov-18, 10:00 PM Reply #29 »
Punter Anthony Gardiner warned off Australian racecourses after failing to front Racing NSW stewards in Astern bet probe

November 18, 20167:25pm

Brad Davidson,The Daily Telegraph

ANTHONY Gardiner, the Sydney punter caught up in the James McDonald betting investigation, has been warned off all Australian racecourses and can’t place a bet until he attends Racing NSW headquarters to be interviewed.

Racing NSW chief executive Mr Peter V’landys made the interim decision on Friday as Gardiner’s refusal to provide the information required is hindering stewards’ investigations into potential serious breaches of the rules of racing.

“No individual’s interest should outweigh the confidence of the public, and particularly punters, in the integrity of the industry,” V’landys said.

“Racing NSW has zero tolerance for those that obstruct and hinder the maintenance of the integrity of thoroughbred racing in New South Wales.”

The consequences of being warned off include not being permitted to enter any Australian racecourse or training facility, not being able to have an interest in any thoroughbred racehorse and not being able to place a bet on thoroughbred races with a wagering operator.


What a crock

With easy bet terminals everywhere now days how can they stop him from betting

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« 2016-Nov-19, 06:29 AM Reply #30 »
They stopped Fletcher   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2016-Nov-19, 07:48 AM Reply #31 »
They stopped Fletcher   :lol:   :lol:

Don't start him up Arthur   :lol:

I thought this was an interesting line in the Tele report:

"Stewards were informed of his association with Gardiner at a regular meeting with law enforcement agencies recently."

Then assuming that Gardiner has been advised by his lawyer to refuse to attend  :chin:

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« 2016-Nov-20, 07:28 PM Reply #32 »

We’ve circulated his details"

BY Matt Kelly - @matty_kel

1 day ago Horse Racing

Racing NSW has put security measures in place to ensure Anthony Gardiner, the punter allegedly involved in the James McDonald betting scandal, doesn’t bet nor present himself at a racecourse.

“We’ve circulated his details, particularly for today (at Rosehill) to Australian Turf Club security,” chief steward Marc Van Gestel told G1X.com.au.

“And we’ve advised all betting agencies in respect to his prohibition to bet on races.”

Racing NSW CEO Peter V'Landys enforced the ban on Gardiner on Friday, after he failed to attend a stewards hearing.

Gardiner has been allegedly linked to McDonald who voluntarily stood himself down from riding on Tuesday.

McDonald has been charged by Racing NSW stewards of having an "interest" in a bet placed on Astern when it won at Randwick on December 5, 2015.

Van Gestel told G1X the inquiry can still be completed without Gardiner’s evidence.

“It certainly can, we have a number of forensic material and other communication records, so it would be ideal to have Gardiner there, but if he refuses to attend, it’s not going to impact significantly on the inquiry,” he said.

“But it’d certainly be more beneficial to the inquiry for him to be there.”

“He was issued with a direction to attend initially on Thursday, that was delayed until Friday upon application, and then when he failed to show on Friday, that’s when the warning off was issued.”

The inquiry was opened after stewards received information from law enforcement agencies that triggered their interest in McDonald and Gardiner.

Jockeys in Australia are not allowed to bet or have an interest in a bet on horse racing. Recently Racing Australia introduced tough laws that carry with it a mandatory two year disqualification on any jockey who breaches this rule.

Van Gestel said that while stewards will again attempt contact, the ball is now in Gardiner’s court.

“We’ll continue to endeavour to have him come and appear, but the ball is in his court to make contact and advise the stewards that he’s willing to be prepared to be interviewed.”

Van Gestel added that the ban will run “indefinitely,” until such time Gardiner attends, and that stewards will “consider as to whether his actions to not turning up this week should be subject to a sanction as well.”

There is no timeline as to when stewards may conclude their investigations. McDonald will not be allowed to ride until the stewards complete investigation.

Anthony Gardiner warned off

Interview of Mark Van Gestel shown today on Thoroughbred Central with Nic Ashman in which  MVG suggests if there are mitigating factors the two year mandatory penalty could be avoided......factors such as co-operation......a plea.....Van Gestel wouldn't comment on the other persons who have been interviewed.....indicating there's a forensic examination of certain phone records......McDonald is back home in NZ his dream is to own a dairy farm.

Racing.Com report has another angle to the affair.

NSW stewards hit snag with McDonald probe
 
Andrew Eddy@fastisheddy
4:15pm


James McDonald’s immediate riding future could hinge on whether the current NSW stewards’ investigation unearths any more information of the jockey taking part in betting on horse racing.

McDonald stood himself down last week when it was announced stewards were investigating allegations he took part in a bet on his own mount Astern when that colt made its debut at Randwick nearly a year ago.

By standing himself down and helping stewards in their investigation, McDonald could plead ‘special circumstances’ if found guilty of the serious betting charge and therefore be granted concessions to the minimum two-year ban, which is the national sanction for a jockey found to have taken part in betting.
Central to that plea, if he is charged, would be that the retained rider for racing giant Godolphin has only bet on one occasion - when Astern won on debut.
The investigation continues this week but no date has been set for the official inquiry to resume as stewards attempt to get to the bottom of the sensational allegation against NSW’s leading rider.

The Racing NSW stewards’ probe has already hit a snag, with a crucial figure in the investigation refusing to be interviewed. In retaliation for his silence on the matter, Racing NSW has ordered that a punter Anthony Gardiner be warned off indefinitely.

Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys said: ‘’Racing NSW view his refusal as obstructing and hindering the stewards in investigating serious breaches of the Rules of Racing.’’


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« 2016-Nov-20, 07:50 PM Reply #33 »
Racing authorities  haven't  had a lot of luck in roping in unlicensed persons under the Rules of Racing .......there's the case of Fletcher in Qld involved with Bobby El-Issa  Fletcher beat  beat the ban at QCAT while Bobby did time out and Neville Clements who refused to hand over his telephone to RVL stewards and was warned off ......but succeeded in overturning the ban at VCAT.......there doesn't appear to be any appeal by RVL in the Appeal Court.....so Gardiner might have grounds to take his case to appeal.

 http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2010/1144.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=neville%20Clements


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« 2016-Nov-20, 07:51 PM Reply #34 »
I suppose this genius like that Oliver chap in Melbourne will contend that it was his first and only interest. Please !!!. They know the rules of Racing under which they are licensed. Just rub them out for a lengthy stretch.

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« 2016-Nov-20, 07:58 PM Reply #35 »
If he wants to buy a dairy farm . .

He could use insanity as a defence :chin:
« Last Edit: 2016-Nov-21, 06:56 AM by arthur »

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« 2016-Nov-21, 07:01 PM Reply #36 »
Gardiner's warning off was done by V'Landys under a designated authority ...which implies that Racing NSW has given him an open brief to exercise this power which under the rules lies with the principal racing authority itself or the stewards...so that's a departure from normal....which may or may not be legally enforceable.

The decision to warn off Mr Gardiner was made by Racing NSW Chief Executive Mr Peter V’landys AM under his delegated authority.

The second thing which is of crucial importance is the question whether Gardiner is subject to the rules of racing......the introduction to the ARB rules states inter alia and is confirmed by AR R2

Any person who takes part in any matter coming within the Rules in this book
contained thereby agrees with Racing NSW to be bound by them.

AR R2 states
APPLICATION OF THESE RULES
AR 2. Any person who takes part in any matter coming within these Rules thereby agrees with
the Australian Racing Board and each and every Principal Racing Authority to be bound by
them. [amended 1.8.03]


“Warned off.” “Warning off.” A person warned off a racecourse is one who is not permitted to
enter a racecourse under the control of the Club or body warning him off.


So the question is did Gardner consent to be bound by the rules if not he'll be in the same situation as RV found in Neville Clements' case..

The most recent penalty imposed by Racing NSW on Brent Zerafa an unlicensed person was only enforced as he was a part owner of a racehorse that suggests if you're just a punter without any license or ownership you're not subject to the rules ...personally I think that's not how it should be.....but the rule hasn't been amended since 2003.

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« 2016-Nov-24, 08:09 AM Reply #37 »

Courier Mail report today

Racing NSW stewards call on warned-off punter Anthony Gardiner to front up over James McDonald scandal

Brad Davidson, The Daily Telegraph

November 23, 2016 6:32pm
 
STEWARDS haven’t lost hope of interviewing the big punter embroiled in the James McDonald betting investigation despite no signs he will front up for questioning.

Anthony Gardiner, or “The Tennis Player” as he calls himself at the track, was scheduled to attend Racing NSW headquarters last Friday to answer questions about his alleged association with McDonald but was a no-show.

Racing NSW chief steward Marc Van Gestel is still hopeful Gardiner will agree to be interviewed.

“It has been well documented that Gardiner hasn’t fronted and at this point we haven’t had any indication that he intends to,” he said. “But we haven’t given up hope and we are liaising with his legal representative and hopefully he sees the importance of the matter and agrees to come.”

It comes as stewards last week charged McDonald under rule AR 83 (d) for allegedly having an interest in a bet on Astern, the horse he rode, to win at Randwick on December 5 last year. Astern firmed from $4.60 to $3.50 before saluting.

Stewards are not suggesting the 24-year-old Sydney jockey personally placed the bet but believe he had an interest in a wager that was placed. Stewards were informed of his association with Gardiner at a regular meeting with law enforcement agencies recently. There is no suggestion Gardiner will be charged or committed any wrongdoing.

James McDonald has stood down from riding until stewards complete their investigations. Pictu Simon Bullard

Stewards have completed interviews in regards to the investigation minus Gardiner and will spend the coming days examining forensic material, including financial communication and betting records.

“(Gardiner’s refusal to be interviewed) hasn’t put us back in respect to our investigation and we have all the material we are after and I hope to get the last of that delivered to Racing NSW (Wednesday),” Van Gestel said.

“Once we get that, we have put a team in place to start going through the material. It’s not going to be months and it will be weeks hopefully (until) we have the matter moving forward.”

Gardiner is renowned as a big punter but can’t place a bet on thoroughbred races after being warned off by Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys last week.

The ban, which will remain in place until a time he co-operates with stewards, means he is also unable to enter any Australian racecourse or training facility or have an interest in any thoroughbred racehorse.

Attempts to contact Gardiner on Wednesday were unsuccessful.

Originally published as Stewards still waiting for punter to play ball :whistle:

Gardner has been warned off and in theory is prevented from betting on horse racing the rule reads ....    (k) open a betting account, operate an existing betting account, transact a bet or have a bet transacted on his/her behalf, have any interest in or share in any bet, receive a benefit from any bet placed with a licensed wagering operator in connection with any thoroughbred race meeting held in Australia;
     
Mr Gardiner  is not a participant as defined by the ARB rules and therefor outside the contractual  obligations imposed on those who are ...the rule is deficient and should have been amended following the VCAT ruling on Neville Clements....
“Participant in racing” includes:
(a) a trainer
(b) any person employed by a trainer in connection with the training or care of
horses
(c) a nominator
(d) a rider
(e) a riders agent
(f) any person who provides a service or services connected with the keeping,
training or racing of a horse. [added 19.10.06

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« 2016-Nov-24, 10:02 AM Reply #38 »
The more I read the media articles on the James McDonald reported betting drama the more I ask, did James McDonald actually place a bet on Astern or did the named punter place a "sling bet" on Astern for McDonald?

What is the difference between a punter placing a "sling bet" on a horse with the intention of slinging a jockey for a winning ride compared to the traditional "Owners Sling" when their horse wins a race?

Depending on the race prizemoney and our punting level we would sling between $500 to $10,000 back in the 70's and 80's.

My view is if they ping James McDonald the authorities should also stop the traditional "Owners Sling".

Totally different viewpoint in regards to jockeys having a financial interest on other horses that they are not riding, that's not on.

Oliver was lucky to get such a short disqualification in my opinion.
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« 2016-Nov-26, 06:22 PM Reply #39 »
In the Tele ATT. Seems presumptious

Is Magic Man on the move?

WILL the James McDonald betting investigation lead to Joao Moreira moving permanently to Australia to ride for Godolphin?

There’s a lot of water to go under the bridge and McDonald could yet be cleared of any wrongdoing and continue as Godolphin’s contracted rider in Australia.

But rumours have been rife Godolphin could next year target Moreira, who told The Sunday Telegraph he wants to move to Australia.

“I will end up in Australia one day but when I can’t say,” he said.

Godolphin is perhaps the stable that can afford to attract the Hong Kong-based star Down Under with McDonald earning an estimated $1 million plus alone last season.

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« 2016-Dec-04, 10:30 AM Reply #40 »
NSW chief steward Mark van Gestel interviewed by Nic Ashman on the progress of the Jmac investigation revealed today on TV that another approach has been made to the punter Anthony Gardiner through his solicitors to front up and answer the questions the stewards wish to put to him...so far they haven't responded...lot of forensic material which they have had in their possession for some time should be sufficient to form an opinion one way or another...Nic didn't ask if there's any other jockey/jockeys or punters in the stewards sights.

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« 2016-Dec-15, 09:15 PM Reply #41 »
No news from Racing NSW yet on what conclusions ...if any...reached after a further interview with James McDonald today ...according to media reports other parties so far un named (jockeys)are being interviewed in connection it is assumed of being contacts of the warned off punter Anthony Gardiner who it is alleged gave McDonald an interest in a winning bet on Astern......As G1X reported :-

"James McDonald will appear before Racing NSW stewards on Thursday as the investigation continues into the jockey’s alleged role in having an “interest” in a bet at Randwick 12 months ago.

McDonald, who voluntarily stood down from riding on November 15, was advised by Racing NSW stewards that he again needs to appear before stewards.

The 34-time G1 winner has retained Melbourne-based lawyer Matthew Stirling to appear for him. A legal representative can attend an interview their client has with stewards, but they are not allowed to actively engage during the interview process.

Racing NSW chairman of stewards Marc Van Gestel said following a forensic review of bank statements, mobile phone records and betting transactions, McDonald and “a number of parties” have been directed to attend further interviews relative to those records.

Van Gestel added that a further request had been made for Anthony Gardiner, who is not a licensed person, to attend an interview before stewards to assist the inquiry.

Gardiner, who is known to socialise with a number of jockeys, failed to attend an inquiry last month. Racing NSW has also sent notice to the legal representatives of Gardiner, but that has not been responded to.

Van Gestel said at the conclusion of the interviews, a date for an inquiry will be set where McDonald will answer a charge under Rule 83 (d), which states a jockey may be penalised: “If he bet, or has any interest in a bet on any race, or contingency relating to thoroughbred racing involving a race in which he is riding.”

Racing Australia introduced a set of tougher penalties relating to what they view as serious breaches of the rules about three years ago.

If a person is found guilty of a breach of AR83 (d) it carries a mandatory two-year disqualification unless special circumstances can be proved.

Racing NSW stewards allege that McDonald had an “interest” in a bet on Godolphin’s Astern when the horse won on debut at Randwick on December 5, 2015. Astern was backed from $4.60 to $3.50.

Van Gestel said information was gleaned from a memorandum of understanding that exists between Racing NSW and law enforcement agencies.

While McDonald wasn’t required to enter a plea when stewards interviewed him on November 15 and subsequently stood himself down, Racing NSW stewards were considering exercising their power under Rule 8(z), which allows them to suspend a licence on the basis that a person’s ongoing participation would pose an unacceptable risk to, prejudice or undermine the image, interests or integrity of racing.

McDonald has spent time in New Zealand during his time away from the racetrack."

Media reports have made it plain there is no suggestion that Gardiner has done anything wrong.......if that's the case why isn't the same conclusion applicable to McDonald........Oh I forgot there's R 83(d). :o


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« 2016-Dec-17, 08:47 AM Reply #42 »
There are a few questions to be asked regarding this state of affairs which I don't think the media wants to ask.

If JMac has voluntarily stepped down, can he now make himself available again if he has not been charged similar to Oliver?

Obviously as it is non G1 carnival time so if he is found guilty will this period of non riding count as it was a voluntary standing down?

Is there a behind the scenes deal being done? After Oliver was allowed to ride during a spring carnival prior to his suspension commencing, will there be a repeat of this?

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« 2016-Dec-17, 09:33 AM Reply #43 »
All we have to go on are what the racing media tells us.......Macca has been charged with a breach of R 83(d) but has not been required to answer the charge pending further inquiries by stewards which it appears are yet to be finalised .....  as previously reported McDonald wasn’t required to enter a plea when stewards interviewed him on November 15.....  he subsequently stood hisself down.......apparently  Racing NSW stewards were considering exercising their power under Rule 8(z), which allows them to suspend a licence on the basis that a person’s ongoing participation would pose an unacceptable risk to, prejudice or undermine the image, interests or integrity of racing....standing hisself down kept his record clear.......and he maintains the presumption of innocence.

This case has some similarities to Brent Zerafa's case where his conversation with the other party was stumbled on by stewards.....in this case Gardiner's phone conversation  apparently was the target of "law enforcement" .........Gardiner unlike Zerafa who was a part owner of a racehorse  is not "a participant" as described by the rules hence his reluctance to agree to appear before the inquiry....you would think he has grounds to challenge V'Landys' exercising a reported delegated authority to warn him off ...if he has it hasn't made the news and he is keeping mum which is most likely a sensibly judicious decision.

That Macca allegedly got a benefit from a professional punter is hardly the crime of the century.

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« 2016-Dec-17, 10:29 AM Reply #44 »
I would have thought that being in the pocket of a professional punter went to the absolute heart of integrity in this game !  Also what is this nonsense of calling him "Macca ?

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« 2016-Dec-17, 11:13 AM Reply #45 »
It may not be worthy of crime of the century status but if proven is deserving of a very long stint on the sidelines.

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« 2016-Dec-17, 11:49 AM Reply #46 »
He backed the horse he rode, other than being a breach of the rules of racing what the hell's wrong with that?

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« 2016-Dec-17, 12:07 PM Reply #47 »
TRUST

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« 2016-Dec-17, 12:15 PM Reply #48 »
TRUST

Exactly. He makes enough money riding. I can understand a struggling bush jockey having a few dollars on (don't necessarily agree with it) but J Mac gets paid plenty.

And if you let them start betting then that info will flow to other jockeys in the race who might be inclined to do a mate a favour not to mention have something on the good thing themselves.

Jockeys allowed to bet? Definite NO imo.

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« 2016-Dec-17, 12:36 PM Reply #49 »
Rest assured that James McDonald will not be found to be "in the pocket" of a professional punter.

James McDonald had been guided and polished by highly respected NZ er's, long before he arrived on these shores. 
At 23 he has associated himself with someone he could have probably done without.

I'm sure most of us  have been there.


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