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Offline Arsenal

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O.P. « 2016-Apr-10, 05:45 PM »
SM carries a great story today  My Day Of Greatness an excerpt from Michelle Payne's book about her thoughts and feelings in riding Prince Of Penzance to win Australia's greatest race......too bad it's not reproduced .....the best I can do is the  sub story on the tragic death of her mother.

The tragedy that shook our family and made us closer than ever





THE FAMILY: Paddy Payne holds Michelle, while mum Mary holds Stevie.

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MY ROCK: Michelle with dad Paddy after her Melbourne Cup win. Pictu Tim Carrafa


MUM had a delightful sense of humour, which she no doubt needed to get through each day, and put up with the way Dad loved to tease her.

He told me she never swore, but he tested her sometimes.

He used to say he found it very hard not to smile when she was telling him off, and if he smiled it made her even angrier.

As we grew older we would all help around the stables and the house, getting up in the dark to get the jobs done before school.

We said Dad had a lot of kids so he didn’t have to pay staff! But not all of them were happy with that approach.

“Another one?” the older ones lamented, when Mum was pregnant with me. “Why do you keep having more children?”

They were also concerned that, because she was older, there might be complications. Stevie, the youngest at the time, was two and had Down’s syndrome.

From the outset Mum and Dad lived their belief that all children are precious, and that proved true. What a blessing Stevie has been for our family. My parents also knew the grief of losing a child. Michael was born between Margie and Andrew and died just three days later. He suffered a hole in his heart, which would be treatable today with the advances in medicine. By coincidence, I was born on the same date as Michael, September 29, and so I was named Michelle in his memory. Michelle means ‘‘Gift from God’’. My middle name is Jacinta, after Saint Jacinta, who was born near Fatima in Portugal in 1910.

One Tuesday morning, not long after Easter when I was six months old, all the jobs were done and the younger kids were getting ready for school. Brigid and my mother were arguing.

While everyone usually spoke their minds in our family, this argument must have become heated. Brig was sixteen and having one of those typical teenage arguments with a parent and she left for work with the issue unresolved.

Saddened by what had happened, my mum wrote her a note saying sorry and put it under her pillow.

It said, simply, ‘‘I still love you.’’

With time getting away from them, Bernadette, Patrick and Margie climbed into the Ford station wagon.

Maree didn’t go with them as she’d been able to convince Dad to let her go to the races with him. There was a local Ballarat meeting on that day, which Therese was preparing to ride at.

The plan was for my dad to do the school run, but he got stuck on the phone on an important call and signalled to my mum that she would have to take them.

Mum drove off along Kennedys Road. At the same time, a local mum was taking her kids to school, and collided with Mum’s car at the Gillies St corner, crashing into the driver’s door.

The car rolled on to its side. The kids, who had minor injuries, were able to scramble out of the car but Mum lay motionless, her body hanging out of the driver’s window.

Petrol spilled out everywhere. “Everyone run, it’s gonna blow!” Patrick yelled.

I think about my mother a lot. I feel she is always with me. But when I think about that specific moment, when she was taken, which I do from time to time, I don’t think so much about an accident I was too young to remember, or of a mother I didn’t know for long. I think of my dad and my brothers and sisters. I try to imagine what Dad was feeling. I can’t imagine what it must be like to have someone you had made a life with, your best friend, your everything, gone – just gone. Then having to tell your children.

If I feel like I’m doing it tough, I think about that and wonder how he got through it, while always retaining his positive attitude and his faith in life.

It gives me so much strength, and perspective.
 
 The tragedy that shook our family and made us closer than ever

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2016-Apr-10, 06:24 PM Reply #1 »
I think it was Rachael Griffiths who commented that Michelle Payne's story is a movie waiting to happen.  I agree. 


 

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« 2016-Apr-10, 08:51 PM Reply #2 »
Yes maybe that is true. But maybe the story is Paddy Payne .A man who was left to raise all these children. And when you listen to these children you realize what a bloody great job he did. Michelle is front and centre at present and deservedly so but don't forget the rest. Her brother Patrick despite weight problems was certainly in the upper echelon of riders in the last forty years. Obviously a wonderful family and I have no doubt the ultimate accolade for their successes belong with their father and no doubt their late mother.

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« 2016-Apr-10, 09:44 PM Reply #3 »
Per chance I happened upon the Sunday Night program on Channel 7 and it seems Rachael Griffiths is going to make a movie about Michelle. 

What makes Michelle such a great subject for a movie is everything Gunbower says.  It's not just about Michelle, its everybody that has made Michelle Michelle : Mum, Dad, Stevie, all her brothers and sisters.   It's a tremendous story.

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« 2016-Apr-11, 09:30 PM Reply #4 »
.............. Her brother Patrick despite weight problems was certainly in the upper echelon of riders in the last forty years......................
Won a Doncaster in the early 90's on Solo Square around 16 or 17 yro.

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« 2016-Apr-11, 10:00 PM Reply #5 »
Yes and the well repeated story was that the air hostess thought he was just an 11 or 12 year old kid on the flight up from Melbourne to Sydney and therefore offered him colouring in  books . True story.

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« 2016-Aug-11, 09:58 AM Reply #6 »
No more Prince Of Penzance for Michelle owners decided she doesn't have race fitness following her major injury and she's not happy either venting anger on social media which she eventually deleted but only after it had been picked up and spread along the twitter verse by those who devote their lives to this medium......doubtful that she is likely to miss anything much winning the Melbourne Cup is hers to keep and PoP isn't likely IMO to repeat the feat two years running.

Giddy Up :beer:


https://www.g1x.com.au/news/racing/has-michelle-payne-lost-her-prince-for-good
Bruce Clark G1X

Has Australia’s racing queen Michelle Payne, lost her Prince (of Penzance)? Now and forever?

Well, she has for the Group 1 Memsie Stakes at Caulfield on August 27, only the second time they will be separated in a (then) 26-start affair that started with a Stawell maiden in March, 2012, and culminated in the grail that is last year’s Melbourne Cup and international stardom.

But what started with a subsequently deleted fiery tweet from Payne in the morning learning that connections had said (quite rightly) she wasn’t fit enough to ride the horse in the Memsie, descended into a seeming public spat – if you can have one without people talking too much publically.

So, part owner John Richards informed Payne after Camperdown trials for trainer Darren Weir on Monday she wasn’t riding Prince Of Penzance in the Memsie. This was her response.



Michelle Payne's tweet. (Pic: Twitter)

This was later deleted – a flurry of phone calls ensured, without much enlightenment.

A flustered Richards, not used too much encroachment, decided to issue a public statement to divert the attention.

“The owners feel it is important for the horse that the jockey chosen to ride him be fully fit and riding at the elite level. It is also important for the horse that there is consistency, and the owner’s preference will be to use stable jockeys. The owners have made no decision on the rest of the spring campaign,” the statement read.

This was put to Payne, but as per her confidentiality contract with her media management group, I won’t mention her response, however, it is fair to say she disagrees with the sentiment in the statement in a typically Australian colloquial way.

Sandy McGregor is the other majority owner of Prince Of Penzance, with a slightly differing view and this is simply why.

“I’m not on social media, I didn’t know anything about it, and to be honest if I had a list of six or seven things required to win the Melbourne Cup, the jockey wouldn’t be high on my list,” he said.

McGregor and Richards tossed a coin over which colours their $50,000 horse would wear, Sandy won that, with the other (Richards) to choose the jockey.

“I reckon Sandy is happy he won that toss right now, I’ve not been involved in something like this before,” Richards told G1X.com.au.

Weir is sitting back knowing he is training the horse and letting others decide the jockey. He wants none of the argy bargy but knows if he speaks up owners will listen.

The stayer will resume in the Memsie, just as he did for Payne last year when again she was under siege to keep the Cup ride on the eventual 100-1 winner.

Weir has backed Harry Coffey to ride former Melbourne Cup fourth Signoff this spring towards the Cup. In the Memsie he will have Mahuta (Brad Rawiller) and Palentino (Mark Zahra).

He suggested to G1X.com.au that John Allen would be his preferred choice for Prince Of Penzance. “I’d put him on anything Johnny, but it’s an owners call,” he said, deferring out of the spat.

McGregor was right in wanting to know when Payne resumes race riding after her fall and recovery from injuries. He is a fan and supporter.

G1X.com.au can confirm she was cleared this Monday to resume trials, which means races; it is up to her to confirm her fitness and ability to compete and get “race-fit”.

“I’d reckon if she was riding and riding winners, John would be fine to consider her back for the ride, I think a lot of people have got a long way ahead of themselves today,” McGregor said of Payne, who has ridden the son of Pentire in 24 of his 25 starts, winning on him seven times.

Payne has applied for a trainer’s licence to compliment her jockey’s badge and this should be ratified by the end of the month. But, right now it’s about getting back in the saddle again against all detractors. She says the fire is in the belly. Now it’s time for action.

So, basically it is as simple as Payne getting back to the track as a jockey. She has been working extra hard to bolster her fitness levels for that, but now needs to convince those with the expected scrutiny that comes from her new-found fame that she is right to go.

And then she can go public and tell all to “get stuffed” again, including the owners of Prince Of Penzance.

Or, let the fairytale continue.
« Last Edit: 2016-Aug-11, 10:04 AM by Arsenal »

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« 2016-Aug-11, 11:50 AM Reply #7 »
Prince Of Penzance will be using the first 3 or 4 runs getting fit before he gets to distances that he will be competitive in. There is really no reason Payne could not be on board doing the same. Unless of course she is not cleared to ride at all

I doubt really that he will be competitive at all this spring.

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« 2016-Aug-11, 03:42 PM Reply #8 »
I don't think there was a true racing follower that didn't have a tear in their eye or a lump in their throat when Michelle and POP won the Melbourne Cup last year.

What should have followed was one of the greatest celebrations ever seen at Flemington. The emotion of Michelle being the first female jockey to win the Melbourne Cup, the story behind her brother Stevie and history of the Payne family in general.

So when Michelle should have been taking it all in and living the moment she chose to let fly at the male mafia in racing and her famous statement, 'they can all get stuffed'.

The latest emotional charged rant by Michelle proves she has learned very little from some advice given to her by many in the racing industry.

"Engage your brain before putting your mouth into gear"

Michelle has now burnt too many bridges and it will be very interesting to see just how many rides she gets from prominent trainers over the next 6 months.

It's all very well for Michelle to state that she has been medically cleared to resume riding, but is she "match fit"?.

If Michelle had calmly discussed her feelings to the stable and the owners of POP she may well have kept the ride further into POP's preparation.

I wish her every success in the future but I just hope she realizes that sometimes it better to "think it", than to "say it" especially via social media.

I will be the first to applaud when Michelle rides her first winner back from her injuries.

I just hope that Michelle has learned a valuable lesson but I strongly feel she will have foot in mouth disease again.
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« 2016-Aug-11, 05:39 PM Reply #9 »
Why would any jockey need to be "match fit" to ride Prince Of Penzance ?

He is not going to play any serious role in any race this spring.

I doubt good class jockeys will be jumping out of tree's to ride him.


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« 2016-Aug-11, 06:34 PM Reply #10 »
What a stupid statement.

The trainer and the owners send the horse around to do the best it can do. They don't say, "can't win anyway. who cares who rides it"

If they think they can do better than someone who has won 3 of her last 115 then they have every right to do so.

If you want to pay the bills you can have a say.

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« 2016-Aug-11, 07:30 PM Reply #11 »
If these dingalings where doing their best by the horse they would not be running him over 1400m.

As i said though, the horse is basically irrelevant to the spring.


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« 2016-Aug-11, 08:19 PM Reply #12 »
Why would any jockey need to be "match fit" to ride Prince Of Penzance ?

He is not going to play any serious role in any race this spring.

I doubt good class jockeys will be jumping out of tree's to ride him.

Authorized, I like you, I suspect have never ridden in a race. However my best mate rode over 700 winners in NZ and later in Australia before retiring just over 9 years ago. He told me that when he would come back from an injury enforced layoff it would take at least 8 to 10 rides to be back at his top. I don't see Michelle having 8 to 10 race rides prior to POP's first up run.

That is what I was referring to as "match fit".

You are probably right that POP has had his day in the spotlight and most likely first up at 1400mts will be too short for him to show anything to much.

If for example he does race a bit keen fresh and pulls hard then I wouldn't want to see Michelle after the race as it wouldn't be a good sight.

Don't forget she had major surgery and it was only 4 weeks ago that she was saying she had doubts if she would ride again or not.

The owners have made the right decision but could they and Michelle handled it in a far more professional style, yes they could have.
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« 2016-Aug-12, 05:21 PM Reply #13 »
I'm surprised she'd be ready to ride so quickly after the bad fall & op. I'm guessing she's thinking once she loses the ride, that's it for her with the horse.
Maybe POP will have 3 or 4 runs & then they'll think about putting her on again. You'd think they'd owe her that.   
 

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« 2016-Aug-13, 11:37 AM Reply #14 »
I would argue she owes "them" more than they owe her.

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« 2016-Aug-13, 08:22 PM Reply #15 »
I would argue she owes "them" more than they owe her.

Her ride won them the big one whether people like it or not.

Whilst other jockeys where running their horses into dead-ends she gave Prince Of Penzance a peach of a ride and kept him full of momentum.

There is absolutely no doubt at least 6 or 7 other horses would have finished in front of Prince Of Penzance had their jockeys not got into trouble.


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« 2016-Aug-13, 09:08 PM Reply #16 »
Her ride won them the big one whether people like it or not.

Whilst other jockeys where running their horses into dead-ends she gave Prince Of Penzance a peach of a ride and kept him full of momentum.

There is absolutely no doubt at least 6 or 7 other horses would have finished in front of Prince Of Penzance had their jockeys not got into trouble.

which had nothing to do with her ride

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« 2016-Aug-13, 09:19 PM Reply #17 »
which had nothing to do with her ride

What ?


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« 2016-Aug-13, 10:45 PM Reply #18 »


Whilst other jockeys where running their horses into dead-ends

There is absolutely no doubt at least 6 or 7 other horses would have finished in front of Prince Of Penzance had their jockeys not got into trouble.

you answered your own question

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« 2016-Aug-14, 12:00 AM Reply #19 »
What

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« 2016-Aug-14, 02:38 AM Reply #20 »
Hmmm,

Not knocking her ride but withot the interference i have her 3rd at best.... but probably 4th or 5th.

Having said that some horses alaways cop it in that race but this time it was a lot more serious. The jockey resppsonsible should not merely get a time penalty when he's probably going on holidays anyway ( the MC stewrads never seem to take this into account so the offenders keep doing it..... )  but should cop Group 1 international bans in the events they normally ride in PLUS a multiple of their riding and winning %'s ie a disincenticve rather than a joke!

Fours

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« 2016-Aug-14, 07:48 AM Reply #21 »
Are you guys really telling me if you owned a horse that started 100/1 in any race (let alone the CUP where you won Millions of $) & it happened to win against all odds, you'd sack the jockey? Geez tough crowd. You have to remember POP had a line ruled through it by 99.9% of Racing Form Experts & most didn't think it was good enough to even be included in the race. Basically given 'no hope'.
It really was an incredible ride & feat by Michelle Payne to win the MELB CUP on that horse. Whether other jockeys butchered their rides has no bearing at all. 

I would think her being replaced on the horse is more to do with her terrible fall & whether Weir thinks she's fit enough to ride in a race. Remember she rode POP for most of its career starts, only missing a ride due to suspension.
Whether the horse comes back this prep & wins more races is another thing entirely. It might, it might not.   

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« 2016-Aug-14, 08:57 AM Reply #22 »
It's one thing for the connections replacing her on the horse: it's another telling her to retire.

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« 2016-Aug-14, 01:46 PM Reply #23 »
Owners of Azkadellia have indicated that if she is fit they will be offering her the ride in the Breeder's Cup.

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« 2016-Aug-14, 01:50 PM Reply #24 »
Firstly I couldn't disagree more if I tried with comments regarding luck paid a major part in Michelle Payne and POP winning the Melbourne Cup.

Luck plays a part in every race, even a Maiden at Dingo at a non tab meeting.

Michelle's ride was a gem, she had POP in the right position to take his chances as they presented.

This current saga is all about Michelle's fitness and being fully recovered both physically and mentally.

Both Michelle and the owners could have handled the situation so much better, but once again Michelle has let herself down with her social media rant. This is not the first time Michelle has had a dose of "foot in mouth disease".



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