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Offline Crimson

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O.P. « 2012-Feb-22, 08:32 PM »
Great to see today Jockey Michelle Payne win the 2012 Lady of Racing Award.
Well done to her, a lovely young Lady and Im sure makes her family proud !!  8-)

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« 2012-Apr-01, 05:17 PM Reply #1 »
 :beer: great riding today....back in town  :no1:

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« 2012-Apr-03, 09:04 AM Reply #2 »
Great to see today Jockey Michelle Payne win the 2012 Lady of Racing Award.
Well done to her, a lovely young Lady and Im sure makes her family proud !!  8-)


here here  8-)

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« 2012-Apr-27, 09:00 PM Reply #3 »
 :beer: great display on Rebel Truce at Flemington...u know its a good ride when it should have run second.... :yes:

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« 2012-May-13, 08:06 PM Reply #4 »
Had a bad looking fall today.

She has tweeted that she has cracked stable vertebrae, ribs and collar bone but
is "not as bad as it sounds"

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« 2012-May-13, 08:42 PM Reply #5 »
  Damn she was flying too !! Hope she gets all clear and can combine a rest and holiday before her next group one !!

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« 2012-May-13, 08:45 PM Reply #6 »
Had a bad looking fall today.

She has tweeted that she has cracked stable vertebrae, ribs and collar bone but
is "not as bad as it sounds"

The only way that "not as bad as it sounds" could be right was if they weren't cracked.

Maybe those wussy soccer players should have a chat to her.


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« 2014-Oct-26, 09:23 AM Reply #7 »
Prince Of Penzance (NZ) - connections advised would be ridden closer today due to the anticipated lack of speed; settled last.
Michelle Payne was found guilty of a charge of careless riding under the provisions of AR137(a), the careless riding being that passing the 400m she permitted her mount to improve into a position between Precedence (NZ) and Black Tycoon where there was insufficient racing room, resulting in her mount making contact with the hindquarters of Precedence (NZ) which shifted out resulting in Albonetti being placed in restricted room inside of Epingle and clipping the heels of Precedence (NZ) or Epingle and its rider Chad Schofield being dislodged near the 300m. Michelle Payne had her licence to ride in races suspended for a period to commence at midnight October 25th and to expire at midnight November 12th, a total of twenty race meetings and is to be served concurrently with the suspension incurred in Race 6. Stewards deemed this incident to be in the high range.

Race 6 - SCHWEPPES CRYSTAL MILE (Group 2) - 1600 metres:
Trust In A Gust - late withdrawal on veterinary advice at 7.42am.
Atlante - underwent a veterinary examination after kicking out in the stabling area and was passed suitable to race. Began awkwardly. Checked at the 350m to avoid the heels of Akavoroun.
Michelle Payne was found guilty of a charge of careless riding under the provisions of AR137(a), the careless riding being near the 350m she allowed her mount to shift out whilst riding it along with the whip, when insufficiently clear of Atlante resulting in Atlante being checked. Michelle Payne had her licence to ride in races suspended for a period to commence at midnight October 25th and to expire at midnight November 3rd, a total of ten race meetings (three metropolitan and seven provincial). In assessing penalty Stewards took into account the incident was in the mid-range and made concessions for the meetings she will miss.

Suspended twice on the one day may not augur well for her appeal prospects ......the Prince of Penzance incident  could have had serious consequences for the fallen horse and jockey ...luckily they both survived.....watching the race it seemed to me there was a run to be taken and there was some tightening from the outside whether Michelle was fully "blameworthy' will no doubt be the focus of her appeal ......the second incident should not have a negative influence on the outcome... although predicting appeal outcomes  depends on who is facing the music ...the records show some do better than others. :o Giddy Up



Payne banned for 20 meetings after Schofield fall

Brad Waters - 25/10/2014

Michelle Payne will appeal a 20-meeting suspension earned after stewards deemed her actions caused Chad Schofield to fall from Albonetti in Saturday’s Group II Moonee Valley Gold Cup.

Schofield and Albonetti escaped serious injury in the incident rounding the home turn but stewards charged Payne with careless riding at the 400m of the $250,000 contest.

Payne sent her mount Prince of Penzance into a gap between Precedence and Tommy Berry’s mount Le Roi, which forced Precedence out in front of Albonetti, which clipped heels and fell.

Stewards told Payne she should not have pushed Prince Of Penzance into the gap but the angry rider told chief steward Terry Bailey Dwayne Dunn’s mount Epingle contributed to the incident when the Mick Kent-trained mare shifted in.

"Dwayne Dunn shifts in and he’s not even asked about that,” Payne said. "I believe I’m being unfairly treated.

"I had to get in there (into the gap) because I would have been the one on the deck.”

Bailey told Payne Schofield’s fall meant the incident fell into the high range of severity before suspending her from midnight on Sunday until November 14.

Stewards also suspended Payne for careless riding on Akavoroun in the Group II Crystal Mile.

Payne reserved her plea to the charge of allowing Akavoroun to shift in when insufficiently clear of Desert Jeuney.

However, stewards handed Payne a 10-meeting ban for that offence.

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« 2014-Oct-27, 06:17 PM Reply #8 »
I've seen the overhead view a number of times and for the life of me I can't see what Michelle did wrong. If anything Schofield rolls in and clips Precedences heels. I can't see where Michelle comes into contact with Chad :chin:

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« 2014-Oct-27, 06:27 PM Reply #9 »
I've seen the overhead view a number of times and for the life of me I can't see what Michelle did wrong. If anything Schofield rolls in and clips Precedences heels. I can't see where Michelle comes into contact with Chad :chin:

I doubt there was a run there but I am not sure she should cop all the blame.

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« 2014-Oct-27, 06:35 PM Reply #10 »
Wasn't Schofield due some time on the deck anyway?

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« 2014-Oct-27, 08:21 PM Reply #11 »
We'll have to await the musings of the learned appeal panel RAD to find out if in their opinion she is guilty as charged or if as she submitted  there were other factors they may consider she should be given the benefit of the doubt and not be held "blameworthy". Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2014-Oct-27, 09:19 PM Reply #12 »
The gap wasn't big enough & she tried to push thru it, which she needed to, to go on & win. If she misses that run, she wouldn't have won. Think she was definitely at fault there. 
The other race Akavoroun was shifting under pressure, hard to control a horse 100% doing that. 

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« 2014-Oct-28, 08:40 AM Reply #13 »
We are all armchair experts mate......everyone has an opinion ......careless riding in this case is easier to prove.

I don't know what her record is like.....and a clean record was one of the factors influencing Bowman's reduction in the improper riding charge to be able to ride in the Cup. Giddy Up. :beer:

Craig Williams who I consider to be an ornament to the game missed out on a Cup winner due to RAD not allowing any reduction. :thumbsd:

The Racing Appeals & Disciplinary Board will hear an appeal by jockey Michelle Payne at 11.00am on Tuesday, 28 October 2014.

Ms Payne has appealed against the decision of the stewards and severity of the penalty imposed when she was found guilty of a charge of careless riding on her mount Prince of Penzance (NZ) in Race 5 the Racing.com Moonee Valley Gold Cup (Group 2, 2500m) at Moonee Valley on Saturday, 25 October 2014.

Ms Payne had her licence to ride in races suspended for a period to commence at midnight on Saturday, 25 October 2014 and to expire at midnight on Wednesday, 12 November 2014 – a total of 20 race meetings, to be served concurrently with a suspension incurred in Race 6.

A stay of proceedings was not requested.
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« 2014-Oct-28, 11:05 AM Reply #14 »
The gap wasn't big enough & she tried to push thru it, which she needed to, to go on & win. If she misses that run, she wouldn't have won. Think she was definitely at fault there. 
The other race Akavoroun was shifting under pressure, hard to control a horse 100% doing that. 



EZ, It was a tight gap but on the overhead footage, she was entitled to take that gap.

I may be wrong but for the life of me I can not see where her horse interferes with the fallen horse

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« 2014-Oct-28, 11:32 AM Reply #15 »

EZ, It was a tight gap but on the overhead footage, she was entitled to take that gap.

I may be wrong but for the life of me I can not see where her horse interferes with the fallen horse
I have not seen the video so can't offer a personal opinion.
However, on what I read she wasn't accused of interfering directly with the fallen horse.
My understanding was that she forced another horse to shift ground.
As a result Schofield's mount clipped that horses heels in the backwash and fell.

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« 2014-Oct-28, 03:52 PM Reply #16 »
Appeal was unsuccessful.

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« 2014-Oct-28, 05:14 PM Reply #17 »
Reasons for the decision in dismissing the appeal take a day or two to be published .....what we get in due course  is the transcript.

John Didham appeared for Ms Payne who claimed to have been disappointed in advancing her own defence to the stewards as she was rattled after Glenn Boss had a go at her ...... who she said she doesn't have the best relationship with. Giddy Up

 RAD board reasons for decisions.....

CHAIRMAN: This is an appeal by Ms Michelle Payne against a decision by
the Stewards that she was guilty of careless riding. After a lengthy hearing
involving a spirited defence by Mr John Didham who appears for the
Appellant, the Board finds that there was in fact no run for the Appellant. The
Board rejects her argument that she was in the run. Rather, she knew that there
was insufficient room for her to take the run, but nevertheless rode on, taking
the chance that she would get away with what was a perilous manoeuvre. As it
turned out, she caused Boss's mount to shift out with the result that Schofield's
mount clipped heels and he fell.
The Board finds that there was no material contribution from any other rider.
Accordingly, the appeal against conviction is dismissed. The Board affirms the
decision relating to penalty.
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Short and sweet not so sweet for Ms Payne......very brief reasons appear to be standard in Victoria.....not so in Qld where reasons are generally very detailed as they ought to be so that armchair defectives can see everything that was submitted and considered. :thumbsup: Giddy Up
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« 2015-Nov-03, 05:58 PM Reply #18 »
What a story.


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« 2015-Nov-03, 05:59 PM Reply #19 »
Cleaned up on Yosei a few times and never been afraid to back Michelle ever since. With her winning it took away a lot of pain. Go girl :clap2:

Oh and Scarlet Billows :no1:

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This piece on Michelle Payne and her family was first published by Fairfax Media on October 17, 2009.

Passion and Payne

Peter Hanlon 
Published: November 3, 2015 - 5:25PM

When Michelle Payne finally got back to her car and switched on her mobile phone last Saturday, 45 messages and 11 missed calls awaited her. The first one she attended to was her father, Paddy, whose reaction to her breakthrough success a couple of hours earlier was as measured as ever.

"He always says to me if I have a bad day, 'At least you get to pack your bags and go home'," Michelle says, smiling at the silliness of a game played out a thousand times over.

"That was the first thing he said on Saturday too, and I said, 'Yes dad, I got to pack my bags'. And then he said, 'And you got a group 1 winner to go with it'."

Payne reads the play well enough to know dad was inwardly dancing a jig over his baby girl's maiden group 1 win (on Bart Cummings' roughie Allez Wonder in the Toorak Handicap), even if he was rock steady on the surface. Like the nine siblings who came before her, she knows the score. "He'll put you down if you're going really well, or he'll boost you up if you're going badly," she says. "He always keeps you pretty level."

Like when she was four, and Paddy threw her on the back of a grumpy Shetland pony, who immediately dumped her in the dirt. "Get back on or you never will," she was told, and so she did.

Fast forward more than a decade, and no sooner had 15-year-old Michelle ridden a winner in her very first race - on her father's horse Reigning, in front of her cheering schoolmates and on home turf at Ballarat - than dad was telling her she should chuck in this jockey caper and go back to school. "For the first six months dad was saying, 'You just don't seem to have it. All the other kids showed a little bit of potential . . .'

"I remembered him telling the other kids that they weren't any good either, telling Maree she could only sit one leg either side and move her little fingers, that was all she could do. I knew it wasn't just me, but it made me so angry. It made me more determined to try harder and prove him wrong."

The bluff can only get Paddy Payne so far, and the children of this remarkable family that has been rattled by grief, but glued together ever stronger in its wake, have always known it. Embedded deeper in Michelle's memory than any paternal advice is her father telling her, day after day, how much he loved her mother.

"My dad always talked about her to me, always told me what a beautiful lady she was. It was probably hard for the older kids who remembered her to talk about her. They had their memories they kept to themselves. Dad used to tell me every day how lucky he was. I think it was good for him to get it out, but it was good for me too."

Michelle was just six months old when Mary Payne was killed in a car crash near their Miner's Rest home, north of Ballarat. As a community rallied around a widower and his 10 children, Paddy Payne made a decision that would define them. In his 1996 book, The Paynes: The Struggle, The Pain, The Glory, Tony Kneebone writes of Paddy gathering his family around him the day after Mary's death, as neighbourly offerings rained down upon them. "It's better for us to get going on our own," he told his children.

Eleven-year-old Bernadette was given the job of looking after bub. "She used to get up in the middle of the night and feed me, then fall asleep in school," Michelle says. As she grew, and Bernadette moved overseas on an exchange, Therese took over.

"She was the motherly figure, and sort of still is to a point. I used to buy her Mother's Day gifts at school when everyone would take $2 and buy something for their mum. She was always cooking tea for us. I'm really close to a lot of my sisters, but probably especially Therese."

The second-youngest Payne, Stephen, is Down's Syndrome, a challenge that was met with a well-practised, country Australian zeal. "Stevie was just treated as normal," Michelle says. "Me and Stevie were just called the little kids. We were always together, and if anyone was looking for us they'd just say, 'Where are the little kids'? If they found one they'd find the other one.

"When we were little, he cottoned on pretty quickly that he was Down's Syndrome and he could get out of it. We'd be getting in trouble and he'd say, 'I didn't know - I'm Down's Syndrome'."

Now 27, Stephen lives with his dad and works as a stablehand for local trainer Darren Weir. Back then, big brothers Patrick and Andrew ensured he and Michelle had a solid grounding in hard graft.

"They used to make Stephen and I be targets for them - we'd have to run and they'd shoot at us with the slug gun. We didn't want to play, but if we didn't play we'd be closer and it would hurt more."

When Paddy put a stop to this, "the little kids" were transformed into horses for crawling races around the rockery - one lap for a sprint, two or three for a staying race with a sprint finish to the tree. "We'd be the horses, crawling along, and they'd be running beside us holding onto our tops, and they'd have whips. I'd be Let's Elope and Stephen would be Canny Lad. They loved it, and Stephen and I hated it. We'd be going to school with holes in our pants. You toughened up pretty quickly."

Michelle's toughness is not at issue. In 2004, aged 18, she fell headfirst from her mount at Sandown, fracturing her skull and bruising her brain. Sidelined for months and "in a pretty bad way", she cried herself to sleep at night, fearful she would never be well enough to ride again.

Her father feared that she would, and again questioned whether this was the life for her. She pressed on, albeit with a dash of her old man's verbal trickery when her riding licence was reinstated.

"The doctor said to me if you have another fall, your brain's not as strong and you'll be worse off," she recalls, admitting she never asked whether the threat would abate over time. "Dad asked me what he said, and I told him the doctor said my brain was strong again and it was OK for me to ride."

She soon fell again and broke a wrist, but was by now hardened and cowed by no one. When Damien Oliver cut her off coming in to the home turn at Caulfield, the apprentice let the champion know she wasn't there to be trampled on.

"We had a big argument coming back to scale and watching the replay. He just shaved me, cut me fine when he wasn't clear, and I was annoyed that he took that risk. He said, 'What do you expect, that we'll put the red carpet out for you'?

"He was getting mad and I was getting mad. He said, 'If you had any idea you would have been going then anyway'. I said, 'If I had any idea? You went too early and I ran you down! I ran second and you were third'!"

She didn't take the fight into the stewards' room and Oliver was spared sanction. They shook hands and moved on, but not before Oliver let her know he expected more respect from one so young. Payne responded that was all she was asking for - respect.

Of Paddy and Mary's 10 children, only Margaret and Stephen did not become jockeys. Therese, Maree and Cathy were trailblazers, while Patrick was the star, his 18 group 1 wins, including Northerly's second Cox Plate in 2002, before he outgrew the saddle and followed Andrew into training.

Michelle idolised her big brother, and even as a five-year-old her stomach churned when she watched him ride. Now, she has booted home more than 400 winners, and earned the respect of hard-nosed punters who no longer mark her down for the "Ms" that precedes her name on the formguide. She is more than just a pretty face, as Cummings noted in vintage fashion last weekend.

Payne laughs at the recall of their mounting-yard banter before the Toorak, when the master trainer greeted her by noting that she is "getting prettier every week".

 When she brought him back on track with a request for riding instructions on Allez Wonder, he told her simply to sit midfield, bring her to the outside "and see if she can run home".

Returning triumphant and a group 1 winner at last, all Cummings said was: "Can you ride 50 [kilograms] in the Caulfield Cup?"

Her week has been so full that the mere thought of it could trigger weight loss, but she knows the vagaries of form, and the need to capitalise. On Tuesday she was up at 3.30am to ride trackwork at Caulfield, then drove to Echuca and booted home a double. Wednesday was Caulfield again, Thursday Cranbourne, and a late favour for dad took her to Mornington yesterday. "It's such a big week, you do it on adrenaline."

She laughs at what her neighbours must think, of this elusive little girl next door who keeps such strange hours and always has a new car in the drive. Home is her refuge; Therese is around the corner, but Michelle has lived alone for three years. "It's nice to come home and not have to talk to anybody."

The grind got to her two years ago, and she escaped for a working holiday in England, staying with Cathy and husband Kerrin McEvoy (Therese - Jason Patton, and Maree - Brett Prebble, also married jockeys). She came back reinvigorated, so went again this winter.

The Paynes are renowned for their work ethic; like her siblings before her, Michelle is a track walker, does all she can to tip the odds in her favour. The working holidays have boosted her CV, which includes experience with Luca Cumani and Jane Chapple-Hyam, Georges Delouze in France and Aidan O'Brien in Ireland.

She is in demand. The "Spring Spruiker", a Racing Victoria Limited competition winner, was badgering her this week to be in a photo planting a kiss on her cheek in return for enlisting members to the Michelle Payne fan club - known as "The Payne Train". She wasn't looking forward to running it by boyfriend Mark Zahra first.

At 24, coming up nine years in the saddle, Payne knows she has put more laps of the rockery behind her than lie ahead. "I don't want to be old and punching them around, day after day. It's a hard lifestyle. I've always wanted to get to my best by now, 24, 25, then ride at my best for a few years and be content that I've given it my best shot and I can feel good about retiring."

Whatever she does, she will always be her father's little girl. They speak two or three times a day, and there was something of a sibling cyclone recently when Paddy gave Michelle two plates that served as the trophy for a race won by his horse, Miner's Man, the year she was born.

"My sisters found out and said, 'You can't have them, they're a family heirloom'. I said, 'I can so, Dad gave them to me'.

"I think I am a little bit spoilt, but the baby always is a bit special."

Paddy knew this early; in the last line of The Paynes, he cautions that the book was penned prematurely, "because the little one is likely to end up better than the lot of them".

The family was rocked again early in 2007 by the sudden death of Brigid, the eldest, to aneurisms and a heart attack. Bernadette now lives in Queensland and Maree in Hong Kong, but the familial bond prevails. It has given Michelle something else to aspire to. "I think we're very lucky," she says. "I would like to have a lot of kids so they could have the same sort of life that we've had. We're very lucky to have each other."

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/passion-and-payne-20151103-gkpszn.html


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« 2015-Nov-03, 07:54 PM Reply #22 »
She gave the boys a lesson today .

Congratulations to her and may her success continue. :no1:

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« 2015-Nov-03, 08:10 PM Reply #23 »
Feisty young gal- woohoo

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« 2015-Nov-03, 09:06 PM Reply #24 »
Congratulations to Michelle, a HUGE achievement   emthup

I find it kind of interesting that her first G1 winner and first(only other?) Melbourne Cup ride was trained by the late JB Cummings, he obviously thought highly of her.

Perhaps JBC was pulling some strings?


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