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Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2015-Nov-05, 04:55 PM Reply #50 »
Gin

Will you please stop upsetting the girls on the forum.


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« 2015-Nov-05, 06:21 PM Reply #51 »
I'm used to the tantrums & illogical discussions JWH, I'm the only male in the house, even the dog is female!

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« 2015-Nov-05, 06:53 PM Reply #52 »
No doubt she is a very attractive young woman .....very stylish dresser too.....one moment captured on TV today when she arrived in the jockeys room Craig Williams had just ridden a winner and as they passed she gave him a peck on the cheek. :heart:



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« 2015-Nov-05, 06:54 PM Reply #53 »

I'm the best looking bloke on the planet. :no1:




My wife tells me you only rank #2 :whistle:

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« 2015-Nov-05, 07:11 PM Reply #54 »
My wife tells me you only rank #2 :whistle:

Tell your wife I'm not surprised she remembers me. :embarrassed:

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« 2015-Nov-05, 07:17 PM Reply #55 »
Must have been the fish and chips at the Zetland takeaway  :lol:

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« 2015-Nov-25, 07:02 PM Reply #56 »
Michelle Payne's feet have hardly touched the ground since she made history by becoming the first woman to ride the winner of the Melbourne Cup.

And the groundbreaking jockey, who has picked up countless media plaudits since her historic triumph, pocketed another award on Monday when the state's racing journalists voted her their personality of the year.

The media voted her their larger-than-life figure, in the main due to her media-savvy shout-out after she returned to scale following her win on Prince Of Penzance, the 100-1 shot who stunned all rivals in Australia's greatest race.

The Age's racing writer Patrick Bartley,along with investigative writers Richard Baker and Nick McKenzie, won the VRC-sponsored award for the best news story.


Giddy Up :beer:



The trio were saluted for their hard-nosed account of the cobalt saga, which rocked Victorian racing to the core before, after and during the spring carnival.


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« 2015-Nov-26, 07:25 AM Reply #57 »
Last Saturday was wonderful seeing Michelle being treated like royalty arriving by Helicopter at Ballarat with security waiting to escort her and she certainly looked the part....well done Michelle you've worked hard for your place in this male dominated sport and succeeded.   emthup  

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« 2015-Dec-03, 09:19 PM Reply #58 »


If a nominated rider at Randwick were unable to fulfil his engagements tomorrow -- the ride should go to MP.

.... and someone -- Singo? -- should ensure that a jockey, booked for a likely also ran, is unable to fulfil his engagements.

While it is no slight on MP -- a self sustaining legend -- it is an embarrassment to the racing establishment in NSW already losing, but looking to rebuild, caste.

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« 2015-Dec-03, 09:28 PM Reply #59 »

If a nominated rider at Randwick were unable to fulfil his engagements tomorrow -- the ride should go to MP.

.... and someone -- Singo? -- should ensure that a jockey, booked for a likely also ran, is unable to fulfil his engagements.

While it is no slight on MP -- a self sustaining legend -- it is an embarrassment to the racing establishment in NSW already losing, but looking to rebuild, caste.

Now I know you're just taking the piss, surely?  :wacko:

In a top level sport where they derive their living, you expect people who have done all the work just to stand aside so a blow in can get a ride? FMD you say some silly stuff  :bulb:

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« 2015-Dec-04, 10:41 PM Reply #60 »


Perhaps 'gin' will make a book on whether this guy gets a ride in mid-January

I will have a slice at evens!


American Hall of Fame jockey Johnny Velazquez is set to ride at the Magic Millions race day at the Gold Coast.

 The 44-year-old, who leads the all-time prize money earnings in the United States, is coming to Australia with trainer Graham Motion to see Animal Kingdom's first foals go through the sale ring.

 
 Velazquez, who won last Saturday's Group One Cigar Mile on Tonalist in New York, will be available for rides at Australia's richest race meeting on January 9 worth $10 million.

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« 2015-Dec-04, 10:44 PM Reply #61 »



.......... and another thing

......this thread should be front and centre at 'racing talk' -- not relegated to some obscure J&T corner where it will be politely ignored.

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« 2015-Dec-05, 06:43 AM Reply #62 »


.......... and another thing

......this thread should be front and centre at 'racing talk' -- not relegated to some obscure J&T corner where it will be politely ignored.

When one uses the "All Boards" to access the forum there is no distinction between "racing talk" and J&T or any of the other racing boards.

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« 2015-Dec-05, 09:09 AM Reply #63 »

Perhaps 'gin' will make a book on whether this guy gets a ride in mid-January

I will have a slice at evens!


American Hall of Fame jockey Johnny Velazquez is set to ride at the Magic Millions race day at the Gold Coast.

 The 44-year-old, who leads the all-time prize money earnings in the United States, is coming to Australia with trainer Graham Motion to see Animal Kingdom's first foals go through the sale ring.

 
 Velazquez, who won last Saturday's Group One Cigar Mile on Tonalist in New York, will be available for rides at Australia's richest race meeting on January 9 worth $10 million.


..... and if does get a ride, what does it prove?  :rolleyes:

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« 2015-Dec-05, 09:20 AM Reply #64 »
When did it become known that Michele Payne would be in Sydney today ?

I find it staggering that Gai Waterhouse could not find a ride for her if given plenty of notice.

As for Velazquez the fact there is plenty of notice that he will be at the Gold Coast it would be crazy if he did not get at least one ride with this much notice.


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« 2015-Dec-05, 12:00 PM Reply #65 »
Pretty poor that the leading trainer Waller couldn't supply a horse for Michelle to ride as in my opinion it is him that has spoiled Sydney racing as since he came on the scene the fields have fallen away as he loads a race field with the amount of horses in his stable...even Godolphin with their amount of horses could have found her a ride surely.

With all the rules changing in Australian racing I think it's time they do like O/seas and when a trainer loads a race with runners they should all be bracketed in a bet.

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« 2015-Dec-05, 06:08 PM Reply #66 »
I can vividly remember saying to someone in 2005 how bad Sydney racing was courtesy of the domination of the  Waterhouse and Hawkes stables.

At that time I would suggest that Waller  was still in NZ or had just arrived in Australia.

Now instead of 2 stables there is only 1 stable that counts.

So no Waller didn't ruin Sydney racing but he sure isn't helping either.

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« 2015-Dec-05, 06:54 PM Reply #67 »
Pretty poor that the leading trainer Waller couldn't supply a horse for Michelle to ride as in my opinion it is him that has spoiled Sydney racing as since he came on the scene the fields have fallen away as he loads a race field with the amount of horses in his stable...even Godolphin with their amount of horses could have found her a ride surely.

With all the rules changing in Australian racing I think it's time they do like O/seas and when a trainer loads a race with runners they should all be bracketed in a bet.

Where does that happen KC?

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« 2015-Dec-05, 07:04 PM Reply #68 »
in America ?


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« 2015-Dec-05, 07:35 PM Reply #69 »
Believe it also happens in France.


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« 2015-Dec-06, 05:25 PM Reply #70 »
Snubbing of Michelle Payne for Randwick meeting is a disgrace
 
Date December 3, 2015 
Max Presnell

Racing writer for The Sydney Morning Herald

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     Payne can't get a ride at Randwick

Just when Sydney racing appeared to be embracing gender equality Michelle Payne was shunned for the Royal Randwick meeting.

Saviour of the Melbourne Cup this year, Payne has genuine class in the saddle as well as at ground level yet was unable to secure a mount for Saturday's nine-event program.

Class on and off the track: Michelle Payne after winning the Melbourne Cup.
Class on and off the track: Michelle Payne after winning the Melbourne Cup. Photo: Michael Dodge
 
Yes, it has been mentioned that small fields at this time of the year restricted options, but apart from a few major spring and autumn dates Sydney Saturdays rarely match the numbers of those in Melbourne and Brisbane.

The finger has been pointed in some quarters at the Australian Turf Club, the promoters of what should have been a major attraction.

However, at least two leading Sydney stables Chris Waller and Gai Waterhouse were approached for rides without a positive response. In fairness to Waterhouse she didn't have suitable opportunities.

Maybe Waller was in the same predicament, but he was only too happy to give world champions such as Ryan Moore and Joao Moreira prime Randwick mounts last autumn upon which they hardly shone.

Was Godolphin, with Henry Plumptre and John O'Shea always keen to advance the industry, approached on the subject?

Perhaps the ATC should have contacted Brett Thompson from Gulgong to give Payne the opportunity in the TAB Highway for bush horses that hugely boost the harbour city's Saturday numbers rather than class.

Alas, Sydney racing in general, and Randwick in particular, was very slow out of the barrier when it came to female involvement. Dinosaurs might recall the yellow or golden line in the member's section of the Randwick betting ring upon which no female was allowed to cross. It was policed by green coats, aged attendants with a keen eye and passion for keeping outsiders in their place.

A green coat came to the fore in the 1974 Doncaster at Randwick won by Tontonan. Two streakers stole the limelight gallivanting down the straight. Photographer Ron Bickley captured the scene and later gave a helping hand when they attempted to exit via the member's enclosure.

"You can't come in here, you haven't got a badge on!" the green coat stressed. Bickley assisted the woman over the fence.

Generally stables were off-limits for females and if they were interested in riding, the Royal Easter Show was recommended or women-only events, termed powder puff derbies, on the racecourse.

Linda Jones, a New Zealander, was the first in Australasia to show that the regarded fragile gender could match it with the men on the turf, being the first to ride against them at Randwick, Rosehill, Doomben, Morphettville, Ascot and Canberra and the first to win a feature event the Labor Day Cup at Doomben in 1979.

New Zealand was always more accepting of female jockeys than Sydney. Melbourne, too, favoured them due to the Payne women, led by Therese, an elder sister of Michelle.

In 1986 champion Roy Higgins said of Therese Payne, who at 25 had ridden 350 winners: "She has beautiful hands and great balance. So many seem to run better for her than male riders."

And Michelle has continued the trend. Sure, her style and dignity extend beyond being on horses and she is handling the controversy with aplomb.

But racing needs heroes, even more so in this era of cobalt and whip focus. Payne fits the category. She should be seen matching it with James McDonald and our best at headquarters instead of just photo opportunities. It does our racing a disservice she isn't.


http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/snubbing-of-michelle-payne-for-randwick-meeting-is-a-disgrace-20151203-glek9r.html


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« 2015-Dec-06, 09:14 PM Reply #71 »
Is it possible that some of the trainers and owners found Paynes chauvinist rant offensive?

I, for one did, and I would find it hard to believe that Gai for another would like someone making excuses, as Payne has  :bulb:

That aside, her winning the Cup has not changed her well exposed ability, which is average to  slightly above average

I rate her above many male jockeys, but I wouldn't give them a free metro ride either.

Presnell has clearly lost the plot comparing Payne to Moreira or Moore, who are at the top of their respective games.

Lets not let these suck up media fools infringe too far on reality  :bulb:


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« 2015-Dec-06, 09:20 PM Reply #72 »
At the end of the day Michelle and Stevie probably attracted 3 or 4000 additional patrons yesterday.

The opportunity to see them have photos etc was what they wanted and the fact she did not have a ride
during the day probably helped the promotion of the day.

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« 2015-Dec-06, 09:21 PM Reply #73 »
Is it possible that some of the trainers and owners found Paynes chauvinist rant offensive?

I, for one did, and I would find it hard to believe that Gai for another would like someone making excuses, as Payne has  :bulb:

That aside, her winning the Cup has not changed her well exposed ability, which is average to  slightly above average

I rate her above many male jockeys, but I wouldn't give them a free metro ride either.

Presnell has clearly lost the plot comparing Payne to Moreira or Moore, who are at the top of their respective games.

Lets not let these suck up media fools infringe too far on reality  :bulb:



well said    emthup

if i had a horse starting in Sydney   :rolleyes:  as if i would get someone to ride my horse to appease the Media

more PC  crap maybe Maxie feels threatened   :chin:

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« 2015-Dec-06, 09:26 PM Reply #74 »
At the end of the day Michelle and Stevie probably attracted 3 or 4000 additional patrons yesterday.

The opportunity to see them have photos etc was what they wanted and the fact she did not have a ride
during the day probably helped the promotion of the day.

And I think that is great!!

I kind of understand the fact the public want to meet and greet people like Michelle and Stevie, who are now deemed celebrities.

I am in no way trying to detract from what either of them have achieved ,in fact I applaud them both, but we need to keep things in perspective.

Racing is a business, not a charity



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