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Offline louotter

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O.P. « 2017-Mar-06, 07:39 PM »
My mother and myself along with Margaret Benson saved the ashes of Tommy a few years ago.
Since then, I have been searching to no avail copies of the Trial of Tommy Woodcock  and This Is Your Life Ep of his.

I'm wondering if any of the members would have any ideas on how to get a copy? I contacted the stations and they dont have them.

Thanks!
P.S link to the article, announcing we'd stopped his ashes from being tossed, for anyone interested.
https://article.wn.com/view/2012/07/19/Tommy_Woodcock_ashes_saved_at_cemetery/

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« 2017-Mar-06, 10:29 PM Reply #1 »
My mother and myself along with Margaret Benson saved the ashes of Tommy a few years ago.
Since then, I have been searching to no avail copies of the Trial of Tommy Woodcock  and This Is Your Life Ep of his.

I'm wondering if any of the members would have any ideas on how to get a copy? I contacted the stations and they don't have them.

Thanks!
P.S link to the article, announcing we'd stopped his ashes from being tossed, for anyone interested.
https://article.wn.com/view/2012/07/19/Tommy_Woodcock_ashes_saved_at_cemetery/

Hi Louotta, Thank you so much for saving Tommy Woodcock's ashes. I had the pleasure of meeting Tommy the year that Reckless ran second to Gold and Black in the 1977 Melbourne Cup.

Have you thought about contacting the Victorian Museum to see if it's possible to have Tommy's ashes display in with Phar Lap at the museum?

It would be a great final resting place for Tommy.

I wish you well if you follow up with the Victorian Museum.

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« Last Edit: 2017-Mar-07, 12:24 AM by mortdale »

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« 2017-Mar-06, 11:13 PM Reply #2 »
That is a really excellent idea.   :thumbsup:

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« 2017-Mar-07, 08:02 PM Reply #3 »
Hi All,

Thanks for the reply.
It was such a shock to see they had expired and we could of been too late, but lucky we weren't. Sadly his beloved Emma, we were too late to save.
The ashes are in perpetuity where they are at the cemetery and due to some legalities which I cant get into they wont be going anywhere.
But they are safe now and forever.

That is great you met Tommy. I've never had the pleasure as I'm 26. Everyone does say though that, that day Reckless was the real winner, the peoples champ.  :no1:
What was he like? Wasn't Reckie one of the first horses to be flown?? ( might be wrong) .

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« 2017-Mar-07, 09:09 PM Reply #4 »
What was he like? Wasn't Reckie one of the first horses to be flown?? ( might be wrong) .

Flown ?  You mean in an aeroplane ?  No, you are off  by decades... but how many I am not quite sure.

Carbine was one of the first horses to be railroaded between the capitals in 1890 but who was the first horse to be flown between the capitals for a race ?

Darn good question.

Here are a couple of early press reports....

"AIR TRANSPORT FOR RACEHORSES.

A recent letter from the Sales Manager of the Bristol
Aeroplane Co. Ltd., England, accompanied by the photographs
which we illustrate, show how the crack Australian
racehorse Attley was carried from Melbourne to Brisbane to
compete m the 10,000 Doomben Stakes, in one of the
Company's freighter aircraft entitled the "Merchant Venturer,"
which was engaged in a demonstration tour.

 It appears that the long road and rail journey would have interrupted
the champion's training schedule, and therefore
the seven-hour aeroplane flight was substituted.

Although the transport of racehorses by air is not new, previously
there have been many difficulties, particularly the provision
of loading and unloading facilities at terminal points. This
has now been overcome by the new loading ramp developed
by Bristol, which, weighing only 250 lb., can be carried
in the plane."

- Construction magazine 21/1/1948


RACING IN NEW GUINEA WILDS
HORSES CARRIED BY AEROPLANE.


Aeroplanes are now being, used to
take racehorses from the coast of New
Guinea inland to Morobe goldfields, so
that regular race meetings may be hold
'there.

News from the mandated territory by,
the Montoro stated that in addition to
racehorses these planes carried heavy
machinery for milking cows, motor
cars, pianos and other heavy freight to
the otherwise inaccessible gold diggings.

At the last race meeting  on the Morobe goldfields,
which are in the heart of some of the wildest country in the
world, there were 15 horses, and all but
one were carried by 'plane.

- widely reported,  1/6/1934  Singleton Argus




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« 2017-Mar-07, 09:35 PM Reply #5 »
Hi All,

Thanks for the reply.
It was such a shock to see they had expired and we could of been too late, but lucky we weren't. Sadly his beloved Emma, we were too late to save.
The ashes are in perpetuity where they are at the cemetery and due to some legalities which I cant get into they wont be going anywhere.
But they are safe now and forever.

That is great you met Tommy. I've never had the pleasure as I'm 26. Everyone does say though that, that day Reckless was the real winner, the peoples champ.  :no1:
What was he like? Wasn't Reckie one of the first horses to be flown?? ( might be wrong) .

I had just turned 20 in 1977 and what stood out about Reckless during the year of 1977 was his endurance. He wasn't much to look at except to say he was your typical stayer with an incredibly strong constitution.

What stood out when I met Tommy was that he was leading Reckless around in the yard just outside the stalls after the Melbourne Cup when a Father with his daughter asked Tommy if his young daughter could pat Reckless. Tommy said pass her to me and he put this young girl on Reckless bareback and led her around for about 5 minutes. The young girl would have been about 8 or 9 and I guarantee that she still talks about it.

It wouldn't happen today with all the OH&S rules in place.

But that sums up the man that Tommy Woodcock was.

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« 2017-Mar-07, 10:05 PM Reply #6 »
I had just turned 20 in 1977 and what stood out about Reckless during the year of 1977 was his endurance. He wasn't much to look at except to say he was your typical stayer with an incredibly strong constitution.

What stood out when I met Tommy was that he was leading Reckless around in the yard just outside the stalls after the Melbourne Cup when a Father with his daughter asked Tommy if his young daughter could pat Reckless. Tommy said pass her to me and he put this young girl on Reckless bareback and led her around for about 5 minutes. The young girl would have been about 8 or 9 and I guarantee that she still talks about it.

It wouldn't happen today with all the OH&S rules in place.

But that sums up the man that Tommy Woodcock was.

 :clap2:

I think I have a copy of that pic!
Was she blonde with shoulder length hair? I think Bruno Cananelli took it.

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« 2017-Mar-07, 10:18 PM Reply #7 »
I think I have a copy of that pic!
Was she blonde with shoulder length hair? I think Bruno Cananelli took it.

Spot on. I didn't know anyone took a picture. Well as having the memory she has a picture, good stuff.

The only thing Tommy Woodcock was a little upset about after the Cup was that he told Pat Trotter not to go inside horses in the straight. If Reckless had been on the outside of Gold and Black, maybe, just maybe the result may have been different.

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« 2017-Mar-07, 10:20 PM Reply #8 »
Flown ?  You mean in an aeroplane ?  No, you are off  by decades... but how many I am not quite sure.

Carbine was one of the first horses to be railroaded between the capitals in 1890 but who was the first horse to be flown between the capitals for a race ?

Darn good question.

Here are a couple of early press reports....

"AIR TRANSPORT FOR RACEHORSES.

A recent letter from the Sales Manager of the Bristol
Aeroplane Co. Ltd., England, accompanied by the photographs
which we illustrate, show how the crack Australian
racehorse Attley was carried from Melbourne to Brisbane to
compete m the 10,000 Doomben Stakes, in one of the
Company's freighter aircraft entitled the "Merchant Venturer,"
which was engaged in a demonstration tour.

 It appears that the long road and rail journey would have interrupted
the champion's training schedule, and therefore
the seven-hour aeroplane flight was substituted.

Although the transport of racehorses by air is not new, previously
there have been many difficulties, particularly the provision
of loading and unloading facilities at terminal points. This
has now been overcome by the new loading ramp developed
by Bristol, which, weighing only 250 lb., can be carried
in the plane."

- Construction magazine 21/1/1948


RACING IN NEW GUINEA WILDS
HORSES CARRIED BY AEROPLANE.


Aeroplanes are now being, used to
take racehorses from the coast of New
Guinea inland to Morobe goldfields, so
that regular race meetings may be hold
'there.

News from the mandated territory by,
the Montoro stated that in addition to
racehorses these planes carried heavy
machinery for milking cows, motor
cars, pianos and other heavy freight to
the otherwise inaccessible gold diggings.

At the last race meeting  on the Morobe goldfields,
which are in the heart of some of the wildest country in the
world, there were 15 horses, and all but
one were carried by 'plane.

- widely reported,  1/6/1934  Singleton Argus

Hmm, Interesting. Thanks!
would of been a pretty bumpy ride back then.Attley was ridden by Athol Mulley wasn't he? Pretty sure that's who's in this photo I've got. Also have one of Carbines offspring Ravenswing .

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« 2017-Mar-07, 10:26 PM Reply #9 »
I think it had this girls name on it also, but I couldn't find her when looking. It was either Bruno or Clive McKinnon who took the photos.

I guess it would  of been different but fate intervened. I think it must of stayed a sore point for Bart with all the fanfare going to Reckless rather than the G & B.
Pat ended up doing alright for himself, like many of Tommy's former Apprentices.
I thought I knew where the picture was , but can't find it.

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« 2017-Mar-09, 10:57 AM Reply #10 »



Tommy and Reckless

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« 2017-Mar-09, 08:04 PM Reply #11 »
Shaun Cosgrove interviewed the lady who owned Reckless on the radio today. What a wonderful story


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