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Offline ratsack

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« 2016-Sep-17, 07:00 PM Reply #50 »
pike on fire AGAIN
so far 7 rides for 5 wins and a 2nd

no doubt someone will pan the 2nd and unplaced      :shrug:

get on the train      emthup

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« 2016-Sep-17, 07:37 PM Reply #51 »
  :noteworthy:

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« 2016-Sep-17, 08:08 PM Reply #52 »
just watched the beaten horses , no probs with any of the rides

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« 2016-Sep-17, 08:47 PM Reply #53 »
i see a peters horse ridden parked behind them at Caulfield today

rawiller up     :chin:

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« 2016-Sep-17, 11:56 PM Reply #54 »
and Wednesday???

We did not hear a peep from you guys on Wednesday where only 1 win from 6 rides and a 3rd placing.

Failed to place at all on the hotpots in two races of little or no depth..... ie races 2 and 3.

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« 2016-Sep-18, 12:23 AM Reply #55 »
Were they unplaced because of the jockey or just not good enough?
He has laps on all the other WA jocks.

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« 2016-Sep-18, 01:28 AM Reply #56 »
Acer,

Actually he does not.

One P Harvey has exactly the same number of placings in his last 350 rides as Pike .

Moreover while blindly backing Pike this season shows a loss doing the same for Harvey shows a 30.7% profit on win bets....

If we look at entire careers it only makes Harvey look the better rider. eg Pikes career win rate is 17%, showing a 22.2% loss on turnover...... compared to Harvey's win % of 23% and a loss of 8.3%.

Quite clearly backing Harvey is the smarter move from a profit perspective. The Pike hype is only causing losses whereas the 'forgotten by some; Harvey is making a remarkable profit meanwhile.

Fours


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« 2016-Sep-18, 09:52 AM Reply #57 »
I was quite intrigued with the 5th race yesterday. Before and after the race :bulb:

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« 2016-Sep-18, 09:57 AM Reply #58 »
I guess that's the case of lies, lies and damn statistics Fours  :whistle:

Might look good on paper but who in their right mind (other than the likes of Peter Mair) backs every mount  :no:

As you would know it's all about doing the form in every race.

I'm a massive Pike fan but it's also great when you find one to beat something he's riding. Case in point was Rebel King a few weeks back. A horse he's ridden in the past but elected to take another mount, it's dropped back in distance and BF kindly served up $11.50  :icecream: Alternatively I'd be well in front on Pike mounts also.

I guess what this proves as there is no right answer.  :shrug:


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« 2016-Sep-18, 07:14 PM Reply #59 »
Fours I never said anything about backing all his rides. As if that is ever going to leave you in front.
Although Wiley will disagree I rarely see him put in a stinker of a ride.
Yes Harvey is good but he would have a tenth of the rides Pike does.

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« 2016-Sep-22, 05:55 PM Reply #60 »
He is not the best jockey by a mile in WA.

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« 2016-Sep-22, 06:42 PM Reply #61 »
Stop it Pikey now you are taking the piss!

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« 2016-Sep-22, 07:09 PM Reply #62 »
And a lazy 6 for the day

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« 2016-Sep-22, 07:39 PM Reply #63 »
Just read this and it made me laugh.


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« 2016-Sep-24, 09:57 PM Reply #64 »
i see pike did ok again today

but no good for some   :chin:

7 rides , 3 wins 1 2nd and 2 3rds

lets bring out the win profits again      :lol:

if ya cant write a book on this guy give up the punt

 

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« 2016-Sep-24, 10:08 PM Reply #65 »
3 rides for ph today on horses in the market    :shrug:

hard to make a book today

will update

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« 2016-Sep-24, 10:40 PM Reply #66 »
Hmmmmm

Consider this... Peter Mair could make 30% profit on turnover by mindlessly, and lazily, backing EVERY PH mount this last year or so.

Doing the same for Pike he'd show a very bad loss.

Fours.

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2016-Sep-25, 10:01 AM Reply #67 »
He reminds me of Nash R.
Good luck to those who follow him solely

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« 2016-Sep-25, 10:33 AM Reply #68 »
Is there really people like that though  :what:

Surely not.

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« 2016-Sep-25, 10:33 AM Reply #69 »
Im certainly not one of them

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« 2016-Sep-25, 10:47 PM Reply #70 »
I don't care what his stats show he is the best jock in the west by a fair way. Let's see how Harvey's stats are if he had to ride in every race on horses that are unders. There are obviously those that got stung by a couple of shorties that Pike didn't salute on and no matter what he does from here on in they will continue to get stuck into him.

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« 2016-Sep-25, 10:51 PM Reply #71 »
Acer,

Pikes win strike rate and place strike rate are fine ones. However they dont match harveys career strike rate.

Now profit on turnover figures refelct on punter behaviour ........................................................................... rather than the jockeys.

Fours

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« 2016-Sep-26, 05:43 PM Reply #72 »
Strike rates/profit etc are not what we have been talking about

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« 2016-Oct-19, 08:25 PM Reply #73 »
On paper it looks like Pike could rack up one of those days on Saturday  :whistle:

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« 2016-Oct-20, 01:50 PM Reply #74 »
On paper perhaps but on Paper I see they are all owned by Williams so expect him to slaughter a few of them like he does for that stable week in week out.
Finding the ones that will overcome his cold rides and get the splits is the challenge
Good luck to us. I'll fall in again, no doubt


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