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Other Racing Talk => Jockey => Topic started by: westie on 2007-Jul-05, 03:48 PM
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Pike to Answer Stewards on Lord Tom Ride
5 July
www.westozracing.com
William Pike will front the RWWA stewards on Friday, after they adjourned an inquiry into his ride on favourite Lord Tom in the last race at Belmont yesterday.
Below is the extract from the stewards report:
An Inquiry was held into the reason for DJEDDAH STING (D. Staeck) being checked approaching the 200m. Evidence was taken from Jockeys D. Staeck, Jason Brown (ON THE RECORD), B. Parnham (OUR NAMATJIRA), W. Pike (LORD TOM), T. Turner (OROYA GOLD) and Apprentice J. Hill (ALPINE LAD) and her host trainer Mr A. Mathews.
Jockey W. Pike pleaded not guilty to a charge of careless riding under ARR.137(a) in that approaching the 200m he allowed his mount to shift inwards and crowd OUR NAMATJIRA inwards onto DJEDDAH STING with this being the major contributing factor to DJEDDAH STING being tightened for room and checking.
This Inquiry was adjourned to allow Jockey W. Pike to further question Jockey D. Staeck until Friday, 6 July 2007 at the offices of Perth Racing at a time to be fixed.
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Pike Suspended for 18 Days
7 July 2007
WestOz Racing (http://www.westozracing.com)
Stewards today concluded the Inquiry into the reason for DJEDDAH STING (D Staeck) checking approaching the 200m in Race 8 the Whiskers Handicap run over 1300m held at Belmont Racecourse on Wednesday, 4 July 2007.
Further evidence was taken from Jockey W. Pike the rider of LORD TOM and Jockey D. Staeck.
Jockey W. Pike was found guilty to a charge of careless riding under ARR.137(a) in that approaching the 200m he allowed his mount to shift inwards and crowd OUR NAMATJIRA (B.Parnham) inwards onto DJEDDAH STING with this being the major contributing factor to DJEDDAH STING being tightened for room and checking.
Jockey W. Pike had his license to ride in races suspended for a period of 18 days to take effect from midnight the 14 July 2007 and to expire midnight 1 August 2007.
Trainers and owners be aware that Pike has elected to take the 9 day rule which will allow his to ride at Belmont next Saturday
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Jockey William Pike
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Just keep following Harvey when Pike goes over....as it will be just like the good old days when he dominated there.... :noteworthy:
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WA jockey off to early Hong Kong start
Brad Waters
Monday, 15 June 2009
Young Perth rider William Pike will arrive in Hong Kong on Monday to begin his riding stint earlier than planned to help overcome a jockey shortage.
Pike was offered a six-month contract which was scheduled to begin in the new Hong Kong season in August but headed to Hong Kong on Sunday night.
The leading Perth rider left W A punters with a parting gift after riding a treble at Belmont on Saturday.
Pike will begin riding trackwork on Tuesday morning and will have his first race rides on Sunday.
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Cracker of a ride today from Pike to get Dreamaway home in the Derby emthup
Bloke would win on a camel at the moment :yes:
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Bloke would win on a camel at the moment :yes:
appropriate for a perth jockey, i'm sure he gets on plenty. :biggrin:
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Cracker of a ride today from Pike to get Dreamaway home in the Derby emthup
Bloke would win on a camel at the moment :yes:
Just about knocked one over and (while I am sure he does not mind now) got 14 days.
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It was just a friendly shoulder :whistle:
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willie rode 4 out of 5 today
he seems to be getting better and better
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Big fish. Small pond. Would be interesting to see him take on the big boys in the east full time.
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Pike is a gun. He has a good style too, still moves his feet which is few and far between these days.
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Rode 4 on Saturday too.
Although he hasn't ridden Kalgoorlie too well recently, with 2 close 2nds in the big races :tears:
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Big fish. Small pond. Would be interesting to see him take on the big boys in the east full time.
how did he go in honkers ?
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Rode 4 on Saturday too.
Although he hasn't ridden Kalgoorlie too well recently, with 2 close 2nds in the big races :tears:
Thought he slaughtered the $1.60 favourite in the 1st race on Saturday :shutup:
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Oh well, Pikey up to his usual tricks today.
It seems he's intent in parking every one of the Peter's horse back at the tail on the fence. Especially if they are short.
Sets an impossible task for them time and time again
Universal law the latest in a string of them.
He keeps this up and I will have to get a betfair account :lol:
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Hmmmmm,
Only makes sense if he is seekig to avoid a strong head wind for his mounts
Fours
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Hmmmmm,
Only makes sense if he is seekig to avoid a strong head wind for his mounts
Fours
The vast majority of the owners horses are ridden this way, maybe he's riding to instructions :bulb:
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He may well be mate, I'd love to find out as the ratio of losers ridden that way by him is massive
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Oh well, there's another one rattling home :lol:
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He may well be mate, I'd love to find out as the ratio of losers ridden that way by him is massive
Peters certainly does not want is horses ridden on the pace,
I actually heard him criticize a winning ride of Pike when he led one day,
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He may well be mate, I'd love to find out as the ratio of losers ridden that way by him is massive
Considering he rides more winners than anyone over there it can't be as bad as you expect.
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Salutes in the last, Horse was good enough to over come
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Peters certainly does not want is horses ridden on the pace,
I actually heard him criticize a winning ride of Pike when he led one day,
Thanks Sobig
I do find that rather strange given the nature of the Belmont & Ascot tracks but they are his horses :lol:
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Agreed wily
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Sat back smoking the pipe to then storm over the top of them on King River in the 4 :no1:
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No doubt it will work sometimes but setting too big a task evrry races sees them lose when perhaps they shouldn't
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That's what you get with Pike and Peters horses. He is obviously under instructions to let most of the horses find their feet and ride them cold and have one last shot at them.
I wouldn't be blaming Pike, blame the trainer. He keeps putting him on so he must be happy with him. You just have to make sure you do your speed maps properly. If there is going to be a lack of speed then steer clear. There are only a couple of good jocks in WA.
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No sure he does keep putting him on mate. I've noticed Tan and Clint J getting a lot more rides. And not just for the claims
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I think it's the owner ACER, not the trainer.
Heard Pike interviewed by Bensley on the radio and it seemed that he was the one who chose what to ride if there was multiple runners. Seems like he has a standing that he gets the rides unless they want to claim.
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Either way they are happy to keep putting him on. He is a good jockey and very strong. The problem is his horses are way underpriced because of this.
Do his stats hold up? I would have thought they did.
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Just looking at the overall Australian premiership.
Pike way out in front with 193.5 winners and a strike rate of 24.6%.
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Sobig,
Congrats to Pikey BUT for favourites I much prefer Lucy to be on them.
Fours
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From Sky Racing & AAP
Pike makes it 200 winners in WA season
PERTH Jun 29 2016
Boom West Australian jockey William Pike continues to shatter barriers, riding his 200th overall WA winner of the season at Belmont on Wednesday.
Having already bested Paul Harvey's metropolitan Perth mark of 116.5 wins, Pike took out the opening race at Belmont, the Schweppes Maiden Plate over 1000m aboard Sweet Ora.
Swooping down the outside, Pike took the Adam Durrant-trained two-year-old to the lead at the 150m mark and forged clear to win by a length from Carnelian.
The win took Pike's metropolitan tally to 119.5 wins for the season, while he is nearly 50 wins ahead of Dean Yendall (154 winners) in the national race.
"When I first started this is not something I ever thought would be possible and it's definitely a very good feeling," Pike told RSN of his metropolitan record, before reflecting on how he got started in racing.
"One day my uncle introduced me to a trainer named Jack Cockell and it started there.
"I thought I had the greatest apprenticeship ever. I did all the north-west dirt tracks. They are some of the roughest tracks I have ever seen.
"Truth be told I thought that was my calling. I thought I would be a bush rider.
"But somehow, with a lot of support I slowly edged my way into town and good things kept happening."
Having eclipsed Harvey's record, Pike, who rarely rides interstate because of family commitments and frequent books of good rides in Perth admits he'd like to take out a big win in the spring.
His best chance as he sees it right now is the Darren Weir-trained three-year-old Perfect Reflection.
Pike frequently rides for the filly's owners, the Peters family, in Perth and rode her to her five wins from her first five starts, including the Group One Kingston Town Stakes, where she beat Delicacy and Dark Musket, before heading to Melbourne and the Weir stable.
"I would like to focus a little more on getting a bit more recognition and riding a big one somewhere else," Pike said.
"My favourite horse is Perfect Reflection, she has gone over (to Melbourne) and with a good spell I'm sure she'll be over there doing good things"
As for the rest of the season Pike won't be resting on his laurels and hopes he can set a metropolitan record that will stand the test of time.
"They probably said when Paul (Harvey) broke the record that no one would catch it," he said.
"Somewhere near the 125 wins is my target and hopefully that stands for a while."
- AAP
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Bloody hell.
I've been reading what Wily thinks.
Didn't think Pike has ever ridden a winner.
Just shows.
You can't believe everything that you read.
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OH he rides plenty of winners my friend. It's always been about the way he loses on some very well favored and well credentialed runners :bulb:
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All hail King William in the last :noteworthy:
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i see KING pike rode 3 out of 5 today
terrible strike rate
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Rode...
Does that mean he fell off the other 2?
Fours
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Rode...
Does that mean he fell off the other 2?
Fours
talking to me again are we diddums
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i see KING pike rode 3 out of 5 today
terrible strike rate
After the 5 he rode yesterday :noteworthy: :clap2:
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After the 5 he rode yesterday :noteworthy: :clap2:
5 out of 6 Gin emthup
last three legs of the quaddie
1st leg apprentices race
only trouble now is getting a price on his mounts
any one care to work out his % , biggest trouble is his mounts are over bet :chin:
Peter Mair might be onto this as well :shrug:
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I'm a massive fan Rats but the key can be to find one you like against his mounts like Rebel King yesterday :beer:
Otherwise just get on the train!
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I'm a massive fan Rats but the key can be to find one you like against his mounts like Rebel King yesterday :beer:
Otherwise just get on the train!
indeed
i thought his best today was STANTON ABBEY got on at 8 bucks :sad:
apprentices off , same weight etc etc etc
im on the train 8-)
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Winning strike rate so far this season is 26%.
Last season it was 25.3% for the whole season
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Winning strike rate so far this season is 26%.
Last season it was 25.3% for the whole season
goodness me
very weak
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hey willy , is he riding the right winners at the moment ?
:beer:
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Oh well, Pikey up to his usual tricks today.
It seems he's intent in parking every one of the Peter's horse back at the tail on the fence. Especially if they are short.
Sets an impossible task for them time and time again
Universal law the latest in a string of them.
He keeps this up and I will have to get a betfair account :lol:
:chin:
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Rats
Never had an issue with Pike when he's not in a Williams (Peters) horse
How many of them won in the last 2 days 8-)
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not sure mate
i dont back them as a combo as the horses start to short
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pike on fire AGAIN
so far 7 rides for 5 wins and a 2nd
no doubt someone will pan the 2nd and unplaced :shrug:
get on the train emthup
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just watched the beaten horses , no probs with any of the rides
emthup
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i see a peters horse ridden parked behind them at Caulfield today
rawiller up :chin:
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and Wednesday???
We did not hear a peep from you guys on Wednesday where only 1 win from 6 rides and a 3rd placing.
Failed to place at all on the hotpots in two races of little or no depth..... ie races 2 and 3.
Fours
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Were they unplaced because of the jockey or just not good enough?
He has laps on all the other WA jocks.
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Acer,
Actually he does not.
One P Harvey has exactly the same number of placings in his last 350 rides as Pike .
Moreover while blindly backing Pike this season shows a loss doing the same for Harvey shows a 30.7% profit on win bets....
If we look at entire careers it only makes Harvey look the better rider. eg Pikes career win rate is 17%, showing a 22.2% loss on turnover...... compared to Harvey's win % of 23% and a loss of 8.3%.
Quite clearly backing Harvey is the smarter move from a profit perspective. The Pike hype is only causing losses whereas the 'forgotten by some; Harvey is making a remarkable profit meanwhile.
Fours
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I was quite intrigued with the 5th race yesterday. Before and after the race :bulb:
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I guess that's the case of lies, lies and damn statistics Fours :whistle:
Might look good on paper but who in their right mind (other than the likes of Peter Mair) backs every mount :no:
As you would know it's all about doing the form in every race.
I'm a massive Pike fan but it's also great when you find one to beat something he's riding. Case in point was Rebel King a few weeks back. A horse he's ridden in the past but elected to take another mount, it's dropped back in distance and BF kindly served up $11.50 :icecream: Alternatively I'd be well in front on Pike mounts also.
I guess what this proves as there is no right answer. :shrug:
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Fours I never said anything about backing all his rides. As if that is ever going to leave you in front.
Although Wiley will disagree I rarely see him put in a stinker of a ride.
Yes Harvey is good but he would have a tenth of the rides Pike does.
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He is not the best jockey by a mile in WA.
😆😆😆
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Stop it Pikey now you are taking the piss!
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And a lazy 6 for the day
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Just read this and it made me laugh.
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i see pike did ok again today
but no good for some :chin:
7 rides , 3 wins 1 2nd and 2 3rds
lets bring out the win profits again :lol:
if ya cant write a book on this guy give up the punt
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3 rides for ph today on horses in the market :shrug:
hard to make a book today
will update
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Hmmmmm
Consider this... Peter Mair could make 30% profit on turnover by mindlessly, and lazily, backing EVERY PH mount this last year or so.
Doing the same for Pike he'd show a very bad loss.
Fours.
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He reminds me of Nash R.
Good luck to those who follow him solely
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Is there really people like that though :what:
Surely not.
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Im certainly not one of them
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I don't care what his stats show he is the best jock in the west by a fair way. Let's see how Harvey's stats are if he had to ride in every race on horses that are unders. There are obviously those that got stung by a couple of shorties that Pike didn't salute on and no matter what he does from here on in they will continue to get stuck into him.
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Acer,
Pikes win strike rate and place strike rate are fine ones. However they dont match harveys career strike rate.
Now profit on turnover figures refelct on punter behaviour ........................................................................... rather than the jockeys.
Fours
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Strike rates/profit etc are not what we have been talking about
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On paper it looks like Pike could rack up one of those days on Saturday :whistle:
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On paper perhaps but on Paper I see they are all owned by Williams so expect him to slaughter a few of them like he does for that stable week in week out.
Finding the ones that will overcome his cold rides and get the splits is the challenge
Good luck to us. I'll fall in again, no doubt
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PR2 #3 Royal Supreme
PR3 #2 Charlestown
PR6 #6 King River
PR8 #5 Universal Law
Good luck with those Gin :beer:
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PR2 #3 Royal Supreme
PR3 #2 Charlestown
PR6 #6 King River
PR8 #5 Universal Law
Good luck with those Gin :beer:
:sweat:
I had a silly place parlay with all 7 of his mounts too :shy:
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Oh dear. He should patent those rides. :wacko:
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There he goes again. Every ride the same. Does he have toast every morning for brekky. fFS
Nothing ever changes with the bloke....arrrggghhh
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Groundhog Day. The blokes a myth
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Wily I suggest you stop backing him or back against him and your life will be a little more stress free.
Everyone knows he rides mostly for luck and I would think that is following instructions or else he would be getting the boot pretty quickly.
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Will take the mount on Real Love in the Cup if she starts :clap2:
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So she'll be ridden further back than Skybeau :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: or drift alarmingly in the betting and get blocked for a run on the rail.
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Rode 6 winners and a second from 8 rides at Narrogin today.
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Sobig,
Good indeed - and Harveys last 50 close to the worst he's ever done....
Fours
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I thinks it's time William made the move to VIC full time. Riding against some of these jocks in WA can't be stimulating.
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Four 2nds at Ascot yesterday.
Thought Wily would be all over that.
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:lol:
He slaughtered a few as well :whistle:
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https://www.punters.com.au/news/pike-would-love-to-ride-a-winner-in-melbourne_163571/
"Country bumpkin" William Pike would love to ride a winner in Melbourne
By Isaac Ling 8 hours ago
West Aussie wizard William Pike won’t be at Flemington on Melbourne Cup day but the self-described “country bumpkin” reckons he’d be silly not to have a crack if the right opportunity comes down the track.
The jockey who has ridden more winners than anybody in Australia this season will be in Perth doing what he does best on Tuesday - trying to ride as many winners as possible – but said a decent ride in a feature race could lure him to the spring carnival in the future.
“I haven’t really chased much over there [in Melbourne] because of my obligations here but I’m not closed to it,” Pike told Punters.com.au.
“What would it take? Probably something that’s a chance or half a chance. It’d be hard for me to go over for a 100-1 pop and hope because I’m in too good a position here.
“If I got offered a chance in a big race it’d be silly not to have a go.”
Pike has won nine Perth premierships and with a 22-win lead over his closest rivals already in 2017/18, is well and truly on track to make it 10 this season.
With the backing of prominent Perth owner Bob Peters, Pike appreciates that he’s well placed and for the most part he’s happy just to ride as many winners as he can.
But the 31-year-old, who grew up 558km east of Perth in the small town of Coolgardie, admits he does harbour ambitions to boot home a winner in Melbourne before he one day hangs up the saddle.
“Before my career is done I want to get over there [to Melbourne] and make sure I at least ride one metro winner,” Pike said.
“I’ve been over there a couple of times and haven’t really done that well.
“[But] I’m just happy riding as many winners as I can and enjoying the opportunities that I’m getting … I’m just enjoying being on top because I know it doesn’t last forever.”
If the day ever comes that Pike does ride a winner in Melbourne, it’s sure to be a popular one as his reputation for helping battling eastern-state punters “get out” at the end of a tough day has become widespread.
Pike was modest when quizzed about his popularity with punters but said he appreciates the support because it means he’s doing his job well.
“Just recently I’ve had so many people come from different states and say ‘we follow you all the time’,” he said.
“When you stop and think about it for a moment, that these people are showing an interest in me, it feels pretty good. It’s good to know because it must mean I’m doing something right.”
The social media age (#BackPikeDrinkWhatYouLike) has almost undoubtedly enhanced Pike’s reputation but the brilliant rider, who describes himself as “pretty much a country bumpkin”, won’t be joining his fans on Twitter anytime soon.
“I enjoy a bit more of a simple life. I’ve never been up with all of the Twitter and things like that,” Pike said.
“I don’t have any social media. I don’t even have Facebook. I suppose it’s another way of keeping the pressure off myself I guess.”
As a non-drinker, he won’t be joining them at the bar after they’ve backed him in the last either, instead preferring to rush home to his family at his property about an hour away from Ascot.
“I come home as fast as I can so I can see my kids before bed,” he said.
“I live on acreage, about an hour from Ascot and Belmont. I like it and I’ve got chickens and all that.
“If I’m celebrating I’ll have some chocolate basically. I don’t drink and I don’t smoke.”
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Quite day for the Peters/ Pike combo on saturday
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7 big hopes for him today.
All bar 2 have drawn well do he shouldn't stuff them up too much
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You beat me to it Wily. It could be a fat day for him although a couple, while having undeniable chances look a little skinny imho.
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Taken a parlay 3,4,5,6
:x:
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One outta one.
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Need him to kick this last one home
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Far out he's a turd :tears:
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Not sure the horse was good enough Wily - couldn't really see where he made a mistake there.
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I think the horse is good enough but sitting on the fence until they straighten then deciding to have a dig was never going to work.
All the momentum was with the others but then again, we know thats what he does :sad:
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Wily
I reckon sometimes you'd prefer to lose the bet over in Perth so you can point to Pike costing you dough. :whistle: :whistle:
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I suspect you're right :chin:
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Should be winning the first 7 races tomorrow. 5 at worst
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Should be winning the first 7 races tomorrow. 5 at worst
:lol: :lol:
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JWH
I'll tell you which ones I'm backing in my multi and then you can back the ones I'm not. Your bound to clean up :thumbsup:
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Okay, taken my parlay on races 2,3,6&7.
Clearly 1 of those will lose and races 1,4&5 will provide a winner for him. Given the draws race 4 may be his next best :thumbsup:
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I'm his biggest fan Wily but gee you're optimistic :chin:
1 is a first starter, 2 he's on he fav (I like 6), 3 should get home, 4, 5 & 6 aren't over the line, 7 should win and strangely not riding the Peters horse in the last :shrug: may only because they want to claim.
So really 3 & 7 look locks, the rest a chances in tough races.
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I'm his biggest fan Wily but gee you're optimistic :chin:
Wily's setting him up for a bagging. :biggrin:
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Nah Geoffrey, it will be my failure :sad:
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2 down 2 to go :clap2: :clap2:
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His ride in Race 5 was very poor - as was all the jockeys on the favoured runners.
The thought occurred to me that there were some not trying very hard to win that race :chin:
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3 down 1 to go :x:
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:tears: :tears: I thought I was home at the 200m
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Given the way the marbles have fallen can't see too much joy for pike at the big meeting on Saturday.
May snag a minor winner in race 2
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I reckon Warner is his love child :lol:
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Given the way the marbles have fallen can't see too much joy for pike at the big meeting on Saturday.
May snag a minor winner in race 2
and he rides a treble :lol:
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:shutup:
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Pikey's comment after the race was "Bad Ride".
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He was being kind. If Williams or Oliver or Cassidy did that the outcry would be deafening :lol:
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When have you heard Ollie or Cassidy admitting a bad ride?
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When have you heard Ollie or Cassidy admitting a bad ride?
Have you Cassidy's book?
He's a saint, just ask him :lol:
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I have not read his book and would not contribute to the little .....
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Adulation of him is lost on me. Probably should have been returned to the Shaky Isles when he was caught up to the nonsense he was involved with. Plenty I know have much greater respect for his younger brother.
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That is J Cassidy's problem.
He was so dodgy, over such a long period he is seen by many as just a crook.
He lost me forever with his losing ride on Century Kid in the 2002 Concorde Stakes.
It was so blatant and yet gets away with it.
I suppose when racing's "first lady" and Singo are the beneficiaries, nothing much is going to happen to you.
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Pikey wants to come east and ride in the big pond.
Best he stay over there after yesterday's Display.
Diabolically bad
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I have not read his book and would not contribute to the little .....
I borrowed it :biggrin:
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Pikey wants to come east and ride in the big pond.
Best he stay over there after yesterday's Display.
Diabolically bad
He's always said he's happy in the west, pottering around his farm with the kids :chin:
Outside of Royal Star, I can't see what else would even remotely qualify as 'diabolical'?
Sometimes I reckon you'd only be happy Wily when he rides 8/8 even if he only has 6 rides on the day! :lol:
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You're probably right gin :lol:
I thought his rides on Bold Success, Fairtrusive, Penalty Point & State Solicitor were his typical "formula" rides. He was insipid and showed no incentive to put the horses into the races when they needed to
In saying that, I think he lifted the River to a win, that's his strength in my mind, not his tactical nous
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He's always said he's happy in the west, pottering around his farm with the kids :chin:
I heard his say it a fair bit lately. Seems to be changing his mind
" the 31-year-old, who grew up 558km east of Perth in the small town of Coolgardie, admits he does harbour ambitions to boot home a winner in Melbourne before he one day hangs up the saddle.
“Before my career is done I want to get over there [to Melbourne] and make sure I at least ride one metro winner,” Pike said.
“I’ve been over there a couple of times and haven’t really done that well.
“[But] I’m just happy riding as many winners as I can and enjoying the opportunities that I’m getting … I’m just enjoying being on top because I know it doesn’t last forever.”
If the day ever comes that Pike does ride a winner in Melbourne, it’s sure to be a popular one as his reputation for helping battling eastern-state punters “get out” at the end of a tough day has become widespread.
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"If the day ever comes that Pike does ride a winner in Melbourne, it’s sure to be a popular one as his reputation for helping battling eastern-state punters “get out” at the end of a tough day has become widespread."
Well, that's a nice thing for you to say Wily. emthup :noteworthy:
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D Oliver & D Lane have both moved to Melbourne and achieved success, whereas C Parnham, who is second on the Perth premiership behind Pike with 44% of Pike's wins, tried and went back West with his tail between his legs. Pike is a much better rider than Parnham, but whether he is as good as the other two I am unsure, as both made the move East before being top dogs in the West.
Could be Pike is a big fish in a small pool.
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Put any other top 5 jock in Perth on the Peters horses and they would win more races.
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Put any other top 5 jock in Perth on the Peters horses and they would win more races.
:lol:
When he was out injured they certainly didn't.
You're probably right gin :lol:
I thought his rides on Bold Success, Fairtrusive, Penalty Point & State Solicitor were his typical "formula" rides. He was insipid and showed no incentive to put the horses into the races when they needed to
Widely reported it's how Peters likes his horses ridden. Plenty of times I don't agree with it but you pretty much know what you are going to get before backing them. Remember the bloke with the gold makes the rules.
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You won't have to worry about Pikey for a while wiley,
Suspended for 28 days (and fined $2000) for causing the interference to Black Heart Bart today.
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You won't have to worry about Pikey for a while wiley,
Suspended for 28 days (and fined $2000) for causing the interference to Black Heart Bart today.
i wonder if WOD is keeping the stats before and after of the Williams/Peters teams while the master , Pike is out ?
will be interested to see the stats 8-)
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I think he's been exposed already. Peters runners are batting at 100% win rate since Pikes slaughter jobs and suspension last week
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You need to get another maths teacher I think wily.
As far as I know 3 runners yesterday for 1 win is not 100%
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:biggrin:
Wily's a master of creative accounting.
I,'m pretty sure I read somewhere that he had Shane Watson'S Test avg at 164.56 :/
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You need to get another maths teacher I think wily.
As far as I know 3 runners yesterday for 1 win is not 100%
correct but I was taking the piss. :beer:
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Welcome back Pikey. Glad to see you've learnt from Parnham whilst you were on the sidelines. Sailing down the outside and no moronic "formula" rides
Mind you it's early days :lol:
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Welcome back Pikey. Glad to see you've learnt from Parnham whilst you were on the sidelines. Sailing down the outside and no moronic "formula" rides
Mind you it's early days :lol:
3 winners today thus far.
$1.50, $1.55 and $1.80 :biggrin:
He is on the last prepost favourite King Of Chaos.
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Another 3 or 4 live chances as well. As long as one isn't the 7th race. Im all over the toppy :lol:
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Oops. I meant the 2nd last race which is the 8th not 7th :shutup:
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He has a full book of rides today in the 9 races.
The prepost prices for his mounts a
R1: $2 (Fav)
R2: $1.70 (F)
R3: $2 (F)
R4: $4.80 (2nd Fav)
R5: $1.75 (F)
R6: $4.20 (2F)
R7: $3.10 (F)
R8: $1.65 (F)
R9: $3 (F)
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Im betting against him in the 7th and 8th so he'll win those 2 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Bit like me Wily, I can never catch this bloke.
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First three winners.
His mount in the 4th race is the $4.60 fixed price second favourite - $1.50 on the NSW TAB at the moment, $1.40 on Tatts :lol:
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I took a system 4 on the first 5 races. The big win eludes me given he just got rolled. Hope the 5th race salutes to give me some return :x:
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If it wasn't for his slaughter job on Regal Moon I'd be alive with 1,5 & 7 in the quaddy :mad:
Thankfully his ride on Press the Petal helped me win on Prying Tom :shutup:
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Gee you're a tough marker Wily, you even blame him for one getting beat when he isn't even riding it! :lol:
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:shy: :shy: :shy: Now that is ironic.
The good news is I'll forgive Maddy Brown for getting beat. She's very cute :love:
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Where is he?
On a holiday?
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Got 17 days for careless riding on the 10th Feb at Pinjarra
Back 28th
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emthup
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There, to my eye has been a vast difference in how many of the horses are being ridden. Kirby, Parnham & Porter are doing very well :thumbsup:
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4 out of the first 5 winners and the ride on the winner of the first leg of the quaddie was real heartbeat stuff but he got it home :)
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If I had to pick a jock to lift a horse in the last few strides, it’s Pike.
They do seem to lift for him
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Eh,
Recently failed to get a single placegetter when an unbackable price in the jockey challenge
Fours
lesson - more serious on Saturday!
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"You can roll out the red carpet, King William is going to reign supreme"
:clap2: :noteworthy:
#backpikedrinkwhatyoulike
:lol:
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6 winners from 8 races. Pike followers will be celebrating tonight.
I got the quaddie up. $20.40 in NSW :dry:
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I got the quaddy too, jumping for joy :lol:
Great effort and don’t forget the “training” effort as well
4 wins for Bob Peters
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6 winners from 8 races. Pike followers will be celebrating tonight.
I
7 rides in those 8 races
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in rare form
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I said to a mate on Wednesday he could nearly ride 7 when I looked through the fields :chin:
He's ended up with 5, 2 2nds beaten under 1/2 length and one failure.
not a bad days work :lol:
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Wonderful effort. God he almost got Big Caroline home and that’s saying something. :lol:
Riding exceptionally well
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Wonderful effort. God he almost got Big Caroline home and that’s saying something. :lol:
Riding exceptionally well
That must have hurt :chin: :lol: :p
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Not at all mate. Been backing him for since he came back from that break. He’s certainly made a clear decision to ride differently. The peters horses are not being ridden as they were.
I think I said here recently he’s the most effective whip rider in the country
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Classic example of each-way betting.
:biggrin:
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JWH
I highlighted his shortcoming and they don't appear to be there now. He's made adjustments and I'm big enough to change my mind about him. Nothing each way in that :thumbsup:
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Bloody hell. He can ride the card on Saturday.
Bob Peters has 6 races sewn up but which of his 10 runners will it be
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It's not beyond the realms that he could ride the card today :bulb:
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I’ve taken a system 4,5,6
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I’ve taken a system 4,5,6
I've multied the lot up on B365 from trebles upwards 8-)
#backpike :sweat:
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I think the Peters Cereise colours might get more winners than pikey
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It's not beyond the realms that he could ride the card today :bulb:
Talk about putting the mock on a bloke.
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Yes :shy:
Although it ended up 2 winners, 2 2nds, 2 3rds & 2 unplaced
Thank god for Mississippi Delta :clap2: :beer:
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I needed Festival Miss for a big result :tears:
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Where is he today?
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Suspended for 10 days from a ride on Cup day.
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emthup
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Good day for the man.
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It could be a Pikey Christmas with a number of strong chances tomorrow
Good chances on Galaxy Star, Celebrity Dream, Nordic King & I don't mind Bon Voyage @ $9.5 too :chin:
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Bon Voyage has struck a good field. Pike has got it beat at his last 2 rides on it but with the smaller field and fast pace, he should, surely, be able to navigate a clear path to victory. The toppy is a talent
He also has the resuming Asdserto who goes bloody well. Just hope he doesnt win the last 8-)
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I haven't dug that far in yet Wily, just skimmed over the fields.
Bon Voyage gets a weight turn around from last time. Granted the toppy is good but if he gets clear air he'll be close at the finish, $9.50 is worth a shot :chin:
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Feast your eyes on his fcking ride on the 2s on fav in the 3rd today.
Putrid :mad:
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A few things there Wily, the horse has 19 starts for 1 win, I couldn't take odds on it and in his defense the gap looked like it was there as they swung into the home straight but slammed shut not long after causing him to check. :shrug:
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Gin, He had no need to put the horse in that position in such a small field.
Can’t agree that it’s win record has anything to do with it. It was odds on because it’s last 2 runs have been rippers.
It should have won both and it wasn’t the horses fault that it hadn’t.
The way it hit the line when clear highlights that it should have won. Even the commentator cried “strike me pink”
Surely he knew the despised outsider who was leading would collapse but he still changed direction and drove right up behind it
Simply, he hooked it and provided enough grey to pass master.
If a 4kg Claimer rode it th3 would be hauled before the stewards
Pike rode to his ego and it wasn’t necessary :shutup:
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First two.
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Wonder what the stewards report said from his hook job on Wednesday :what:
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TYCOON LEGEND –Impeded from on straightening until being steadied and being taken outwards near the 100m. Rider was questioned in relation to his mount being blocked in the straight and he advised that he was reluctant to shift the gelding outwards prior to the 600m to improve behind a runner that was racing erratically and consequently he elected to attempt to improve through the field but shortly after straightening became impeded when a runner secured a passage in advance of his him causing his mount to become impeded and he was then further held upwhen the runner he was following commenced to tire before eventually getting clear near the 100m. He further added that the gelding is best suited by being ridden in a patient manner and due to circumstances in the race, the gelding had been unable to improve at vital stages when becoming held up. Trainer advised the gelding is best suited when not having to work hard through the early and middle stages andis able to be saved for a late finishing sprint. After considering all of these comments, Stewards took no further action.
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So there you go, Wily, he was impeded not hooked.
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Well Wily it's nommed for Wednesday & has P Hall up instead of Pike.
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Yep . .
Impeded . . 3 times
Blocked . . . 1 time
Held Up . . . 1 time
You're a hard marker WOD . . :whistle:
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Thanks Sobig
Arthur, the point is a 2s on fave should never have been put in that position for it to happen. Very small field and had chances to get in the clear.
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A few things there Wily, the horse has 19 starts for 1 win, I couldn't take odds on it and in his defense the gap looked like it was there as they swung into the home straight but slammed shut not long after causing him to check. :shrug:
Hope you followed up Wily.
Odds on last week, $6.20 on BF today :lol: :clap2:
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I did mate. Took the $4 with an odds to to $5.50 :clap2:
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So there you go, Wily, he was impeded not hooked.
Go figure, stewards told me theres no further questions to be asked
2's on and driven up behind bums in an 8 horse field. Today, clear air all the way in a 13 field and wins. Nothing to see :sleep:
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I know im bleeting a bit but go and look at the book of rides that day and see the difference in how they were ridden.....if you can be bothered :lol:
If not, just blackbook Touch of Silver from the last race that day, watch the replay and bear in mind that the trainer said before the race that he didnt think he had the horse was ready and it wasnt a chance. The jock made sure it wasn't. Followed instruction to a T. Well done Pikey ;)
If the bloke rode in Victoria I could reopen the " Sal Perna, I smell a rat" thread :lol:
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you could also look at the facts ?
every horse he rides is unders ?
he is by far the best jockey in WA ?
he rides the horses of the biggest and most high profile stable in WA ?
my advice is to bet around him , ie find the horse that he is not on and therefore overs ?
your choice mate
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It’s not the way I bet or do the form rats. It’s not a pure % based approach.
I just wish he’d stop hooking them. I’d be a lot richer :lol:
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Mikimoto a moral if.....
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Mikimoto a moral if.....
:sweat:
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Geez he waited to pull the stick. Horse picked up once he did. I needed that :lol:
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Wonder what the stipes said re his ride in Regal Power last week :tin:
Mind you the up side is that they are now betting $8 for th Derby so he got what he wanted :whistle:
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Wonder what the stipes said re his ride in Regal Power last week :tin:
Mind you the up side is that they are now betting $8 for th Derby so he got what he wanted :whistle:
Where's the $8 Wily? Best I can see is $3.50 :chin:
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Yes mate, buggered if I know where I saw that.
In saying that he looks a rolled gold special to me so $3.50 is good value :thumbsup:
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Wonder what the stipes said re his ride in Regal Power last week :tin:
Mind you the up side is that they are now betting $8 for th Derby so he got what he wanted :whistle:
Surely he won't hook it tomorrow
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Wily, old mate, you must be very close to libelling this bloke.
Just a thought :/
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---------- the libel is about who may have actually been thinking and capable of converting that.
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Wily, old mate, you must be very close to libelling this bloke.
Just a thought :/
Nah, hooking it means taking inside runs rather than hooking around their heels 👠
Shortest way home
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Credit where it’s due :biggrin:
Big win
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Wonder what the stipes said re his ride in Regal Power last week :tin:
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Long odds on to win the Derby. I actually like the stablemate. The filly each way
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With even luck could ride race 2 to 8 on Saturday :chin:
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Wily will make a fortune.
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JWH, I always take a multi with the Peters Cerise & white colours despite him being on :thumbsup:
He’s lucky Bob Peters puts him in he best horses in Perth.
Thankfully he’s not riding lavistarr on Saturday given the slaughter jobs. At his last 2. Get On!!!
It will be wet over there which always makes it hard due to lack of exposure for most horses
His rides are
R2 Peters bred horse. Total Attraction is a nice horse but under the odds at odds on. Forgotten Star the value :thumbsup:
R3 Peters bred. Western Pride is fave and talented but a wide draw means pike will struggle, Gates Of Babylon & Coming Around for me
R4 Mystery Miss another sticky draw. Will get back but she is also talented a Peters bred. 1 & 2 are better value
R5 Peters bred. Battle Storm is a ripper. Should win this. I could even ride it
R6 Electric Light. Back to suitable distance loves wet. Misty Metal & Rock Magic are better bets
R7 Eye Art. Favourite but pike has slaughtered Lavistarr at its last 2 who’s in the same race.
R8 Masquerade another impeccably bred Peters horse. Well drawn which pike needs but 6 & 8 are the big threats
Do with that what you may :lol:
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3 Bob Peters horses saluted for Pikey on Saturday. I thought Battle Storm was the most impressive
3 very nice ones resuming tomorrow as well
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On racenet Aaron Mills pondered :bulb:
“Interpreting what’s going on when Willie Pike switches rides is something I’m still struggling to get my head around after all these years but sometimes it’s better not to read too much into it. Essential Spice backs up quickly from last weekend when unleashing an impressive finishing burst to get away for an easy win. No Pike today”
Well, Aaron got the answer today :lol:
Pikey’s mount which went around as fave missed the kick and never got a clear run at any stage whilst Essential Spice sailed down the outside to win by 6 :lol:
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Then he brings the good thing of the day home in Festival Miss :clap2:
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On racenet Aaron Mills pondered :bulb:
“Interpreting what’s going on when Willie Pike switches rides is something I’m still struggling to get my head around after all these years but sometimes it’s better not to read too much into it. Essential Spice backs up quickly from last weekend when unleashing an impressive finishing burst to get away for an easy win. No Pike today”
Well, Aaron got the answer today :lol:
Pikey’s mount which went around as fave missed the kick and never got a clear run at any stage whilst Essential Spice sailed down the outside to win by 6 :lol:
The above mentioned Glasgow Girl goes around at a short price on Saturday. Pike still on
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Will ride a treble at Bunbury today
Races 1,5,& 6
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2 out of 3. $100 all up :shutup:
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Two from two
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3/4 and his ride on the 4th was drifting like a gale. It started at 2.8 and out to 4.4.
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Got rolled on the $1.45 shot.
Mayb3 it was the horse but it didn’t seem to be his same vigorous whip ride.
Maybe spooked by Michael Walker :biggrin:
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Got rolled on the $1.45 shot.
Mayb3 it was the horse but it didn’t seem to be his same vigorous whip ride.
Maybe spooked by Michael Walker :biggrin:
How often do you see a shorty go down in a small field :chin: Regardless it's hardly the most honest conveyance :confused1:
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Wily will be salivating over the book of rides that Pike has this Saturday :icecream:
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Got 2 in my black book, Gin bu5 he should be getting 4 or 5.
It just depends which ones. The stable mates might knock him off in a couple.
A bigger day for Peters than Pike, I suspect :chin:
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Don’t know who I hate more Pikey or myself.
Had all of the winners anchored with Forceful & Sentimental Gift who both ran 2nd.
Greed & stupidity are the 2 punting evils🤮. I have both .......in spade fulls 🤪
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It can be cruel Wily.
I thought he had 8 good chances out of 9 - didn't like race 2 where he ran 2nd yet from 9 rides he's had 5 winners, 3 2nds and a slaughter of Stageman who went to the line untested :sick:
I won on the day but of course I loaded into Stageman :shutup: still it was a peach on Sublime Image in the last :icecream:
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If anyone wonders why I hate the bloke. Look at the ride that Gin points on Stageman.
Insipid compared to the way he ride a few others
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Take a bow William Pike :noteworthy: :noteworthy:
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Personally I’m thanking the horse.
Regal Power won the race for our man Pikey :no1:
Oh, and Bob Peters who told him to ride a better race than his slaughter job on the one in previous race
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There were a couple of slaughter jobs in that race.
Not sure why but whenever you back Pike in the Peters colours, he always seem to be back end of the field or is just me?
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Very true Jeunes
He often seems to think it’s a 600m straight as well
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There were a couple of slaughter jobs in that race.
Not sure why but whenever you back Pike in the Peters colours, he always seem to be back end of the field or is just me?
Because that's where Bob prefers his horses to be ridden.
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Because that's where Bob prefers his horses to be ridden.
Who gives a shit how Bob prefers them ridden, it's how Wily prefers them ridden (to win every time) that counts, for Chrissakes.
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emthup .
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Who gives a shit how Bob prefers them ridden, it's how Wily prefers them ridden (to win every time) that counts, for Chrissakes.
Geoffrey & Sobig, I pick up on your sarcasm but anyone with a instinct of racing can tell there’s those that Pikey thinks are winning chances and those that are not
The stark difference in riding style is there for all to see :bulb:
Thankfully, I suspect old Bob gets the shits occasionally and gives William a wake up call. His comments after Regal Power saluted certainly indicate this
My advice to old Bob is to be a tad more ruthless and less loyal :no1:
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Personally I’m thanking the horse.
Regal Power won the race for our man Pikey :no1:
Oh, and Bob Peters who told him to ride a better race than his slaughter job on the one in previous race
Come on Wily, I was counting the money at the 800 you could see him start to move and angle out looking for clear air.
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Perth racing Piked
The prominent role that WP plays in Perth racing is akin to the situation in Hong Kong where a couple of jockeys similarly rule the roost.
One problem is the pressure put on these riders and the scrutiny of their every move.
Another is the implicit distortion of the betting markets for these races -- a real trap when the fields are inflated with runners cluttering the race but unable to win.
..... .......all up, these distortions make the racing unattractive as a betting opportunity.
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Perth racing Piked
The prominent role that WP plays in Perth racing is akin to the situation in Hong Kong where a couple of jockeys similarly rule the roost.
One problem is the pressure put on these riders and the scrutiny of their every move.
Another is the implicit distortion of the betting markets for these races -- a real trap when the fields are inflated with runners cluttering the race but unable to win.
..... .......all up, these distortions make the racing unattractive as a betting opportunity.
Pete, if you can't win in WA or Hong Kong you should seriously think about taking up another hobby. :bulb:
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God almighty I've got him finishing 1st or 2nd in every race
Each way multis perhaps?
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God almighty I've got him finishing 1st or 2nd in every race
Each way multis perhaps?
Go for one of those combo multis for win and a separate one for the place. Even if he does not ride a winner and finishes in the place for all the races, you could have a nice a holiday to watch him in Perth live. :lol: :lol:
We will cheer for you and Pike in every race. 8-) 8-)
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First one up but thank God the horse has talent
Looked like a slaughter job turning for home
Phew
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On a few chances tomorrow.
Where's Wily's mocker?
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Once again I’ve got about 6 of Bob Peters in my black book but will end up backing the wrong ones :lol:
Pike only on 2 of them after slaughtering the others at their recent starts so god only knows what will happen
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Surely it's Stageman's day :sweat:
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Surely it's Stageman's day :sweat:
Not when ridden like that in a race that was devoid of pace
Especially after his ride on Electric Light in the previous :sad:
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Not when ridden like that in a race that was devoid of pace
Especially after his ride on Electric Light in the previous :sad:
Not saying this happens regularly but sometimes when you watch WA races, Pike’s opponents sometimes seem to race him at times instead of racing against the field.
He is up near the lead as the leader kicks but the n runs out of steam leaving him in front too soon. The other ones are the races devoid of pace but prior to the race, you could see a lot of pace.
Strange day all over the country yesterday with many favourites getting beaten.
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Some of the rides are baffling to say the least.
I get more black book runners in Perth than any other state 💡
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Not when ridden like that in a race that was devoid of pace
Especially after his ride on Electric Light in the previous :sad:
Having gone over the replays quickly it looks like it was a day where you couldn't make ground wide :chin: seemed to be a lane about 4 horses wide and anything that pulled out wider just seemed to labour.
Both of Pike's rides mentioned here, Flirtini was another, nothing in the Railway etc etc.
Interesting Pike stayed inside in the last, popped off the fence in the straight and won easily.
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One out each leg in the quaddie :chin:
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I took Perfect Jewel over Electric light in the 3rd leg
Red publisher also a chance to knock pike off in the first leg at big odds