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Offline Gintara

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« 2016-Apr-16, 07:02 PM Reply #1525 »
I thought he was a victim of pace Wily.

Those small fields in WA can be a trap where they jog along before sprinting home the last 400. The gap was there but the moment he chose to stay inside it shut on him.

I saved on the winner but Universal Law was a much better result for me too.

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« 2016-Apr-16, 07:11 PM Reply #1526 »
He's constantly a victim mate. He puts himself in positions where he can find trouble if he wants. Even on Arcadia Dream he was in a horrendous position but the horse was good enough despite him
Didn't have the nerve to watch him in the last race. It was my get out race so I'm going to assume he slaughtered cosmic as well :rant:

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« 2016-Apr-16, 08:12 PM Reply #1527 »
Considering he is on nearly every fav in every race he rides in (and they are massive unders) he is going to get scrutinised more than most. I still rate him 10 times better than any other jockey over there. He can't ride 7 winners a day.

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« 2016-Apr-16, 09:03 PM Reply #1528 »

Didn't have the nerve to watch him in the last race. It was my get out race so I'm going to assume he slaughtered cosmic as well :rant:

Horse wasn't good enough, put it 2 pairs back on the fence and angled out coming to the bend but the leader had done it fairly soft and he was unable to reel it in, stick with the horse.

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« 2016-Apr-17, 08:30 AM Reply #1529 »
Considering he is on nearly every fav in every race he rides in (and they are massive unders) he is going to get scrutinised more than most. I still rate him 10 times better than any other jockey over there. He can't ride 7 winners a day.


It's not the losing that worries me Ace, it's the absolute slaughter jobs he comes up with on the favourites. I'm sure his butchering rate is higher than any other leading jock

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« 2016-Apr-17, 08:37 AM Reply #1530 »
Mitchell Bell....Artlee......done for careless riding a real house of stoush and some harsh words spoken after the event.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/122103/Randwick-stewards---Push-and-shove-and-‘please-explain’

Hughie thought it cost him the race.
https://www.racenet.com.au/news/122095/2016-Hall-Mark-Stakes-–-What-the-jockeys-said

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« 2016-Apr-17, 08:52 AM Reply #1531 »
I thought Bell persisted way too long in trying to push out. Could have gone back inside and no doubt it cost Hughie the race

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« 2016-Apr-17, 09:47 AM Reply #1532 »
      
    Sunday morning now and Blake Shinn's ride aboard Malaguerra is still making no sense.
    Even worse is the explanation "I didn't think I was on a horse  that could hold the lead"

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« 2016-Apr-17, 10:02 AM Reply #1533 »

It's not the losing that worries me Ace, it's the absolute slaughter jobs he comes up with on the favourites. I'm sure his butchering rate is higher than any other leading jock


Wily he seems to ride most of his horses in a similar style - very quiet and getting the last shot at them. I reckon most of his wins are by half a length or less coming from the back of the field.Because of this if he gets any slight check or hold up more often than not he will get done.
In saying that he rides a lot of odds on pops that would be paying $3-$5 with someone else on board.
I just don't think he deserves a lot of criticism based on the price of the runners as they are so under the odds it's not funny. He is one that I find hard to back but I also hate backing against him.

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« 2016-Apr-17, 10:05 AM Reply #1534 »
     
    Sunday morning now and Blake Shinn's ride aboard Malaguerra is still making no sense.
    Even worse is the explanation "I didn't think I was on a horse  that could hold the lead"


I noticed Freedman said he had no problems with the ride. Well we will know if that is true if he never rides it again.
That whole race stunk.

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« 2016-Apr-17, 10:12 AM Reply #1535 »
SKYE Bogenhuber vigorously defended a charge levelled at her by stewards of not giving Happy Event every chance in the Dalrello Stakes before being suspended for two months on Saturday.

Stewards found Bogenhuber failed to make sufficient effort to restrain the filly at the 900m and then allowed the filly to keep striding at the 800m mark as she and Love Spy opened up a big margin on the rest of the field.

Bogenhuber told stewards every time she tried to take hold of Happy Event “she wanted to run off”.

“Do you just expect me to restrain and slot into second place like I’m driving a car?” she said.

“The horse is working against me. I did everything possible at the time. It was already fired up.

“Would you rather me run off the track and pull it up?”

Earlier trainer John Zielke had noted Happy Event lost her tongue tie and said that contributed to her racing ungenerously.

Stewards said it was a serious offence and they expected better of a jockey with Bogenhuber’s very successful record around Toowoomba.

Bogenhuber, who has only recently returned from injury, indicated she will appeal the suspension.

On the face of it the stewards decision will be difficult to upset.  :king:



Race 4: Moore Trailers Dalrello Stakes QTIS 2yo Plate – 1200m

HAPPY EVENT – Jockey S. Bogenhuber was found guilty of a charge under AR135(b) in that from the 900m after obtaining a position outside LOVE SPY she failed to make sufficient effort to restrain her mount when it was reasonable and permissible to do so particularly given she had ridden aggressively in the early stages to obtain a position outside the lead. Further, from the 800m she allowed her mount to stride forward which resulted in HAPPY EVENT maintaining a fast tempo when it was reasonable and permissible to restrain and attempt to maintain a position outside LOVE SPY, and that her actions as particularised have, in the opinion of the stewards, resulted in HAPPY EVENT failing to obtain the best possible position. Jockey Bogenhuber was suspended from riding in races or a period of 2 months, to commence at midnight, 20 April and to expire midnight 20 June.

Stewards may have thought this was a "Team Effort" with Bogen taking on Love Spy with  the stablemate Spot The Diff getting a soft run  behind but it was Crack Me Up which finished much too well. :thumbsup:


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« 2016-Apr-17, 10:13 AM Reply #1536 »

I noticed Freedman said he had no problems with the ride. Well we will know if that is true if he never rides it again.
That whole race stunk.
         I know I'm a bit deaf now, but I'm sure I heard Lee Freedman on morning radio committing to lead.


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« 2016-Apr-17, 10:37 AM Reply #1537 »
On the face of it the stewards decision will be difficult to upset.

Arsenal, what are you basing this statement on? Tongue tie came off, trainer supporting jock, what more do you need for a successful appeal - I disagree wholeheartedly, suspension will be successfully appealed against and either wiped or reduced I believe

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« 2016-Apr-17, 05:57 PM Reply #1538 »
On the face of it the stewards decision will be difficult to upset.

Arsenal, what are you basing this statement on? Tongue tie came off, trainer supporting jock, what more do you need for a successful appeal - I disagree wholeheartedly, suspension will be successfully appealed against and either wiped or reduced I believe

The stewards found agin her and so they should ......it looked like a slaughter to me and  I don't think there's any chance of her getting off.....none whatsoever.....the RDB has made some strange decisions in the past and might feel inclined to do so again ..that is if they get the chance ......for after this week if the RI Bill is passed the RDB will be no more ....it's function will be taken over by QCAT......
probably a good thing. :shrug:

As a supplementary question how did the tongue tie come off......was it faulty ....a bit of perished elastic band .... to stop the horse getting it's tongue over the bit...I didn't notice that the tongue tie was submitted as an excuse by her. :bye:

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« 2016-Apr-18, 08:47 AM Reply #1539 »
On the face of it the stewards decision will be difficult to upset.

Arsenal, what are you basing this statement on? Tongue tie came off, trainer supporting jock, what more do you need for a successful appeal - I disagree wholeheartedly, suspension will be successfully appealed against and either wiped or reduced I believe

Have a couple ? over this decision.
If Stewards believe it was team riding wouldn't the trainer get suspended rather than the jockey? Obviously they are assuming the trainer instructed the jockey to ride forward.
In Bogenhuber's defence, she's been around a while & is a very good jockey. If she says she couldn't control the horse, & ultimately had to let it run, why wouldn't stewards believe that reason?  :chin: We see horses take off quite often & jockeys let them run as they have no chance if they are fought all the way.  



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« 2016-Apr-18, 08:49 AM Reply #1540 »
Saw some bad rides down south on Saturday & we'll see if any suspensions come from those rides.

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« 2016-Apr-25, 04:43 PM Reply #1541 »
G.Buckley needs 2 months out after the ride on Star Legs at Gosford. Incompetent.

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« 2016-Apr-26, 05:34 PM Reply #1542 »
Euchuca R5 Stewards smell a rat...see if you can pick the dead un. :bop:


https://www.racing.com/form/2016-04-10/echuca/race/5/results


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« 2016-Apr-26, 05:52 PM Reply #1543 »
Euchuca Echuca R5 Stewards smell a rat...see if you can pick the dead un. :bop:


https://www.racing.com/form/2016-04-10/echuca/race/5/results


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Racing Victoria (RV) Stewards will conduct an inquiry at RV at 1pm this Thursday, 28 April 2016 into the tactics adopted on Bolshoi Bandit in the Moama Bowling Club Handicap (1412m) at Echuca on Sunday, 10 April, 2016 in which the horse finished last as the $4.40 second favourite.

Kym Hann, the licensed trainer of Bolshoi Bandit, and jockey Craig Robertson, were first notified by Stewards on Wednesday, 13 April 2016 that they were investigating the tactics adopted and analysing wagering on the race. They have been asked to attend Thursday’s inquiry.
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« 2016-Apr-26, 05:56 PM Reply #1544 »
our boy charlie unusual run

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« 2016-Apr-26, 06:15 PM Reply #1545 »
Bubba wins ...hopelessly incompetent ride holding it so obvious that Blind Freddy would pick it.....surprisingly the stewards didn't latch on straight after the race .....maybe they had other things on their mind...it appears that there are betting irregularities which motivated the inquiry.....makes me wonder how well they read races if this got under their guard. :o


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« 2016-Apr-26, 06:57 PM Reply #1546 »
Stewards report on the day

Bolshoi Bandit Jumped awkwardly, shifted out and bumped Pupangamirri. Performed below market expectations. Rider Craig Robertson explained the gelding was reluctant to begin and settled towards the rear of the field in the early stages. He added he urged his mount along, however the gelding hung in throughout placing him at a disadvantage. In the straight hung in despite the efforts of its rider and went to the line without being fully tested. A post race veterinary examination revealed no abnormalities.

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« 2016-Apr-27, 03:39 AM Reply #1547 »
Stewards report on the day

Bolshoi Bandit Jumped awkwardly, shifted out and bumped Pupangamirri. Performed below market expectations. Rider Craig Robertson explained the gelding was reluctant to begin and settled towards the rear of the field in the early stages. He added he urged his mount along, however the gelding hung in throughout placing him at a disadvantage. In the straight hung in despite the efforts of its rider and went to the line without being fully tested. A post race veterinary examination revealed no abnormalities.

Just watched the replay and looked at the winner's form.

That race was a 0-58. Racing Australia "in the running" and betting flucs for Easy Best.

3rd@800m, 3rd@400m, $31/$10/$9.50/$9

Start before on 10th March, same class at Wangaratta over 2000m - beaten 12.1 lengths.

12.1L, 11th@800m, 12th@400m, $51/$61

In fact his previous 11 starts before this one saw his odds $26, $71, $12, $14, $41, $31, $21, $71, $71, $61 and $61 - so you could say $31 into $9 went against the grain  :)

This start was his first run for a new stable after a break of 4 weeks.

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« 2016-Apr-27, 09:38 AM Reply #1548 »
Good hunting there Sobig finding the stewards report on the day ...I looked for it on the RA site but it had been deleted.....only more recent meetings were up..... interesting betting on the winner..... as posted by PP previous form hopeless but money arrives and up he gets....maybe a coincidence but Bendigo trained same as the one under investigation also a couple of others from there were making up the numbers. :whistle:


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« 2016-Apr-27, 10:04 AM Reply #1549 »
I also went looking for stewards report without any luck.
I would like to know who the stewards were that officiated at the meeting. If they believe all that dribble the jock has divulged, they need to find new jobs. Maybe that's why stewards report can't be found.
Keep an eye on positions vacant in integrity ranks over next few weeks.
Did not urge his mount forward. Did not hang in throughout or in the straight.
Questions needed to be answered then & obviously now therefore reopened investigation.


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