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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2018-Mar-09, 12:53 PM Reply #1900 »
Geez the ride by King Hughie in the 6 horse field in the first at Newcastle was not his finest  :/

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« 2018-Mar-09, 02:59 PM Reply #1901 »
I am watching the races with a few mates and just watched a race in Warwick.

Watch the ride on Rocky Nugget (race 4)  a drifting favourite who ended up starting around 5.50. The lack of vigour in the middle stages needs to be questioned plus the lack of vigour around the turn when there was a chance it could finish in the top 3.

I know it is an apprentice but advice given could be very beneficial to their progress.


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« 2018-Mar-17, 06:19 PM Reply #1902 »
Toowoomba Race 3. Drifting horses in the market and 1 of them Davor doubled its opening price too. Draws barrier 4 and finds itself almost 3 wide for the latter part of the race. Bad judgement on the part of the jockey for too much faith in the ability of the house.

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« 2018-Mar-25, 01:49 PM Reply #1903 »
Port Lincoln race 3 no 2. Drifted from $4 to $7. Usually a leader but due to fast pace was a few back and lack of vigour at times was noticeable.

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« 2018-Apr-07, 01:55 PM Reply #1904 »
2 Big odds on favs in Adelaide in Race 1 and 3, both trained by Tony McEvoy fail to fill a placing.

One of them draws barrier 4 and is 3 wide. No chance of winning but well beaten.

 

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« 2018-Apr-07, 02:05 PM Reply #1905 »
2 Big odds on favs in Adelaide in Race 1 and 3, both trained by Tony McEvoy fail to fill a placing.

One of them draws barrier 4 and is 3 wide. No chance of winning but well beaten.

They mentioned on Sky that the stable foreman (? Tony's son) said that the first one (Coppergate $1.45 ran last) was showing signs of colic post race.

Punters who took the $1.45 probably have colic plus a few other things.....

Tony Brassel actually tipped the one that won the 3rd race. He's on fire. Tipped Sir Charles Road straight away after that.

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« 2018-Apr-14, 12:16 PM Reply #1906 »
 Watch the replay of race 1 Brisbane. Funny old race.

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« 2018-Apr-14, 07:27 PM Reply #1907 »
Jeunes, " funny " is not what I would call it! The whole race has a stench about it. Watch the ride on "Irish Optimism " and tell me whether under the rules of racing it was given every opportunity to win the event. Come to think about it the whole day had the usual Queensland stench about it. Ex South Africans and ex Kiwis either missing the kick or travelling three and four deep . Anyway that seems to be  Racing in Queensland . I would suggest half the problem is that it is patrolled by coppers who really wouldn't have much of a clue which end you put the feed in , let alone about racing in general.

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« 2018-Apr-14, 07:40 PM Reply #1908 »
Viridine – when questioned, H Bowman stated his intention was to ride the colt
conservatively, particularly as it has a tendency to race keenly in its races. He said
accordingly in the early stages he shifted in behind runners and travelled behind I Am Excited
and to the inside of Pariah. He added Viridine raced fiercely, refused to settle throughout the
early and middle stages and was continually restrained from the heels of I Am Excited. H
Bowman further stated that, whilst he observed Pariah travel three wide in advance of him and
that was a desirable position to obtain, he was unable to come back due to his mount's racing
manners and take up a position behind Pariah in the middle stages. He said, when Catchy
then improved to his outside, he was then badly held up on the heels of I Am Excited making
the home turn. He added on straightening his only option was to improve to the inside of I Am
Excited and, after securing that run soon after straightening, he became badly held up initially
on the heels of Booker. He said, once improving to that runner's inside, he again could not
test Viridine when Houtzen then commenced to give ground in advance of him and
consequently Viridine went to the finish without being tested.

Very poor ride IMO  from our acclaimed "best" jockey.

Giddy down :thumbsd:


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« 2018-Apr-14, 08:43 PM Reply #1909 »
The best three jockeys I have seen are Moore , Higgins and Dittman.  Bowman is in the Group 2 or 3  category at best.

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« 2018-Apr-16, 10:44 AM Reply #1910 »
Agree that Bowman ride on Viridine was a shocker and full credit to Peter Moody on Ch7 for saying so. We need more blokes in the racing media prepared to give a big name a decent spray.

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« 2018-Apr-25, 12:10 AM Reply #1911 »
I don't know how Jason Collett's ride on El Dorado Dreaming got missed by this thread.

Without a doubt one of the ten worst rides ever in a Group 1 race. Had about 25 chances to get to the outside and come down there like he did in the Sires but decided to "do a Schofield" and be cute.

Think the stewards diplomatically agreed with me:

El Dorado Dreaming – when questioned regarding his riding making the home turn and in the early part of the straight, rider J Collett that he followed Outrageous in the run and making the home turn commenced to shift off with a view to following Not A Single Cent. He said when Not A Single Cent did not continue to improve into the event, this resulted in El Dorado Dreaming improving to the inside of that runner and ultimately being held up for some distance behind Irukandji. He added in the early part of the straight he then improved into a narrow run between Long Leaf and Irukandji, before obtaining clear running at the 200m. Stewards advised J Collett that wherever possible he should endeavour to ensure that his mounts are given full and uninterrupted running to ensure they obtain the best possible place in the field.

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« 2018-Apr-25, 09:21 AM Reply #1912 »
Collett is good at these sort of incidents :bulb:
« Last Edit: 2018-Apr-25, 08:28 PM by wily ole dog »

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« 2018-Apr-25, 08:21 PM Reply #1913 »
I think I wrote after the Champange ' very unlucky not to be in the finish after winning Sires'

Certainly was ugly

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« 2018-Apr-28, 11:28 AM Reply #1914 »
Jeunes, " funny " is not what I would call it! The whole race has a stench about it. Watch the ride on "Irish Optimism " and tell me whether under the rules of racing it was given every opportunity to win the event. Come to think about it the whole day had the usual Queensland stench about it. Ex South Africans and ex Kiwis either missing the kick or travelling three and four deep . Anyway that seems to be  Racing in Queensland . I would suggest half the problem is that it is patrolled by coppers who really wouldn't have much of a clue which end you put the feed in , let alone about racing in general.

The horse that won the race finished almost last today while the horse that finished near the back won in Race 1 Brisbane.

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« 2018-May-05, 04:15 PM Reply #1915 »
There has been some unlucky runs today but not sure if the jockeys took bad options or the horses are just plain unlucky or non winners. I believe the latter.

Melbourne race 7 - So Si Bon - hit the rails in the straight, would not have troubled the winner but better navigation might have been a good place chance.

Sydney race 8 - Kool Vinnie - the jockey probably should have stayed closer to the rails than shift out. No qualms would have gone close to winning.

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« 2018-May-05, 05:30 PM Reply #1916 »
There has been some unlucky runs today but not sure if the jockeys took bad options or the horses are just plain unlucky or non winners. I believe the latter.

Melbourne race 7 - So Si Bon - hit the rails in the straight, would not have troubled the winner but better navigation might have been a good place chance.

Sydney race 8 - Kool Vinnie - the jockey probably should have stayed closer to the rails than shift out. No qualms would have gone close to winning.

Kool vinnie :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears:
Last on the fence and goes looking for runs to the outside. Meanwhile a peek to the inside and it wins :rant:

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« 2018-May-05, 07:24 PM Reply #1917 »
A couple of interesting rides in the Sangster today. Trying to figure how a horse that comes usually from the middle or back of the pack Missrock, managed to lead an out and out flyer Quelesta. Unsurprisingly, you would have been on good terms if you were around the back.

Interestingly if you doubled up on Ben Melham, he came from the back to win the next race so it was not a bad meeting.

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« 2018-May-05, 07:41 PM Reply #1918 »
I have no idea what the plan was on Qualista.

Last win in Sydney was one of the best exhibitions of a sustained speed horse you'll see and I was even thinking it could be an Everest horse.

Goes to Adelaide and they grab the reins  :what:

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« 2018-May-05, 10:52 PM Reply #1919 »
To top that off she had no where to go on straightening, the bird had flown before she saw daylight  :wacko:

Earlier they took a sit behind the speed on Desert Lashes who has won all her races leading or sitting on the leader  :what:

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« 2018-May-06, 12:02 AM Reply #1920 »
I have no idea what the plan was on Qualista.

Last win in Sydney was one of the best exhibitions of a sustained speed horse you'll see and I was even thinking it could be an Everest horse.

Goes to Adelaide and they grab the reins  :what:

o dear
what was he doing ?
no money for the horse that I could see ? blu and blu
never in the hunt the way he rode it
best check the stewards report lol

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« 2018-May-06, 08:16 AM Reply #1921 »
Just before the race Weir seemed very confident that she’d lead easily

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« 2018-May-06, 09:10 AM Reply #1922 »
The more interesting question is why did Melham lead on a horse that usually races well off the pace and also drew a wide barrier?

It had to weaken and Quilista was stuck behind it. If I was a steward, I would be asking why Quilista did not kick up. There might be a reasonable explanation but it does not look good. Shoals won her 3rd G1 of the season so she is a very good horse.

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« 2018-May-06, 10:21 AM Reply #1923 »
The more interesting question is why did Melham lead on a horse that usually races well off the pace and also drew a wide barrier?

It had to weaken and Quilista was stuck behind it. If I was a steward, I would be asking why Quilista did not kick up. There might be a reasonable explanation but it does not look good. Shoals won her 3rd G1 of the season so she is a very good horse.

For a change I had a few bets in Adelaide MissRock was one she's not a leader but began best still it looked like there was a fast lane horses coming from back out in the middle of the track in the couple of races I saw this was one of them a forgive run IMO.
Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2018-May-07, 01:42 PM Reply #1924 »
I had Qualista going as the last leg in a pretty healthy place multi expecting it to be six in front around the turn, AS IT WAS AT IT'S LAST 2 RUNS, and either hanging on or getting run over on the line but still running a hole. So yeah, I'm talking through my kick but that was a very ODD ride.


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