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Offline Arsenal

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« 2018-Aug-08, 07:06 PM Reply #1975 »
Stewards Report
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 SCONE RACECOURSE
 Tuesday 8th August 2017
Weather: Fine
Track: Soft (5)
Rail: 5 Metres 800m to winning post, 3 Metres remainder.
Stewards: S Cullen (Chairman), J Penfold, D Carr & L Martin (trainee).

Hoges – when questioned G Ryan explained that although his mount began well, he would have been forced to use excessive vigour to obtain a prominent position from his wide barrier in the early stages and elected to obtain cover in accordance with its usual pattern. He said that passing the 800m he was racing behind Buddy’s Ode, the eventual winner, however Hoges was not travelling well and when he attempted to go forward with Buddy’s Ode inside the 600m Hoges did not respond and commenced to hang in. He stated that rounding the home turn he attempted to take his mount to the outside of the field to go forward, but was unable, as Hoges continued to hang in and inside the 400m, he was severely disadvantaged by this and unable to ride with proper vigour resulting in his mount going to the finish without being properly tested and intractable. A post-race veterinary examination of Hoges revealed no abnormality. When attempting to pull Hoges up after the winning post, the colt whipped around, and G Ryan was dislodged (uninjured). Trainer Mr. J Ramsey was advised that prior to racing again Hoges must perform tractably under full race day pressure in an official barrier trial.
http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Aug07&VenueCode=NjIxMjgw&RaceNumber=6&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

Not one of his best rides IMO lucky not to be charged.

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« 2018-Aug-12, 03:59 PM Reply #1976 »
A couple of Wallers received please explains at Rosehill CARZOFF was questionable IMO..... the other one INVIVZABEEELwas one of 3 he had in the following race.

 Carzoff – Stewards permitted T Berry to ride the gelding 0.5kg over its allotted weight of 54.5kg. When questioned regarding his riding in the straight and as to why he did not immediately improve around Testashadow rider T Berry stated whilst there was an option to shift out around Testashadow his instructions from trainer Mr C Waller were to improve between runners as the gelding has raced best when ridden in this manner. He said for this reason when the run presented to the outside he was indecisive in coming to Testashadow outside as he was endeavouring to ride to instructions. He further added when Testashadow shifted out he elected to go back to the inside and ride in accordance of his instructions. Stable representative Mr L Prior confirmed that T Berry was advised not to expose his mount too early to ensure it finished the race off strongly and further that the gelding has raced best when able to improve between runners. Near the 200m T Berry briefly dropped his nearside rein.
http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Aug11&VenueCode=OTM4MTEy&RaceNumber=7&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

RACE 8: Canterbury Hurlstone Park RSL Club Spring Preview 1400m Invinzabeel – After being crossed by Prized Icon near the 1000m commenced to overrace. When questioned regarding his riding in the straight and the reason he did not immediately take a run to the inside of Prized Icon rider B Shinn stated that as he had formed the view it was advantageous to improve wider in the straight he elected to endeavour to secure clear running to the outside of Prized Icon. He said that when Prized Icon then shifted out slightly in advance he was briefly held up before ultimately improving to that runners inside the 250m. Whilst Stewards accepted his decision to endeavour to shift out, did not compromise the finishing position of Invinzabeel he was advised that he must ensure he avails himself with runs when they present.
http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2018Aug11&VenueCode=OTM4MTEy&RaceNumber=8&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay


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« 2018-Aug-25, 06:21 PM Reply #1977 »
You would have thought that the stewards would at least asked why she was ridden that way

but no mention in the stewards report.

What did people think about the ride on Quilista today?

Drops it out to near the rear and runs on but was never going to win.

The horse that won in Sydney at the carnival in the Autumn looked a real topline sprinter with a high cruising speed. Seems to be nothing like that now.

If I owned the horse it would be going to another trainer......

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« 2018-Sep-09, 09:52 AM Reply #1978 »
Thought there were enough bad/unlucky rides yesterday to fill a few pages on this forum.

Top of the Pops would undoubtedly be The Autumn Sun.

Bad ride or unlucky ride? I think a horse like that you ride them like Winx i.e. zero risk of getting trapped 2nd or 3rd last on the fence behind a wall. You have enough good horse under you to seek a position one off or two off near the rear by paying a small penalty.

If you do happen to find yourself in such an awkward position you get out of it even if it means grabbing the reins and dropping out to last so you can go around the outside. They cannot catch you if you are on the best horse in the race.

Bad ride for mine.  emthdown

And even if you are on a very good horse like Graff there is no guarantee that if you take the wide option that you will win especially if someone is riding a gem on the eventual winner Lean Mean Machine.

Graff unlucky BUT not sure if you would get a different result if he was two deep rather than 3 deep (and why is a horse called Graff a horse and not a filly??)

The first race had 9 starters and there were probably 8 bad rides. The ride on the "other south coast horse" Eugene's Pick should be included in training manuals on how to creme a horse's chance with a negative ride section. Is a future city winner.

This is the part of the season where champion jockeys make their mark. They are the ones that set the agenda. They are usually not the victims of team riding tactics but rather the inventors of them.

Two riders rode a double at Rosehill yesterday. Hugh Bowman and James McDonald. There seems to be daylight between them and the 3rd best jockey whoever that is.

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« 2018-Sep-09, 05:05 PM Reply #1979 »
PP, having watched the replay a few times I can’t blame Hughie for 5he Autumn Sun’s loss

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« 2018-Sep-09, 05:30 PM Reply #1980 »
PP, having watched the replay a few times I can’t blame Hughie for 5he Autumn Sun’s loss

I agree wily considering he did not ride it.

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« 2018-Sep-09, 05:36 PM Reply #1981 »
  :lol:
Oops my bad. K McEvoy  8-)

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« 2018-Sep-25, 09:24 AM Reply #1982 »
S Sweeney on Rosie Posie who had a gap big enough to drive a Greyhound bus through but elected to go around the field & M.Du Plessis on Hang who could not make up his mind whether to go forward or back at Toowoomba on Saturday with both being narrowly beaten.

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« 2018-Oct-16, 02:45 PM Reply #1983 »
J Ford
Bloody insipid ride in Collectively in the 4th at Newcastle

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« 2018-Oct-20, 08:18 PM Reply #1984 »
Sometimes when you watch the races at Toowoomba, you have to wonder if it was run during the day will people query the rides and races.

The golden rule is watch the drifting favourites in the races.

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« 2018-Oct-20, 08:37 PM Reply #1985 »
Yes  sometimes when you bet at the Country meetings you get what you deserve. Just watched K Nisbet on one in the first at Wagga Today. You can see why she  has found her niche in the bush. I have seen more initiative on a Merry go Round at the show.

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« 2018-Oct-23, 06:36 PM Reply #1986 »
It's most unusual for a provincial track like Beaudesert to cater for stayers today they attempted to run 2450m well one of the riders A Allen on the top weight Catch Me Latar took off with a lap to go rounded them them rode vigoursly with the whip and won so he thought by some 3 or 4 lengths only to find as he eased down the rest of the slow coaches kept on going he ran last not surprisingly ....no doubt he would feel very foolish and would expect some penalty from the stewards as well as an earful from the horse's connections....stewards report wasn't up when I looked earlier but I'll post the replay.

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/racing-and-results/video-replays/player/thoroughbred/bdst/20181023/race/5

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« 2018-Oct-23, 07:08 PM Reply #1987 »
Probably just another Queenslander going on strike because they don't get paid enough . Please !! The punters should be happy because they might get a break from some of these amateurs.

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« 2018-Oct-23, 08:24 PM Reply #1988 »
I watched a replay  and I wonder what will happen to the jockey?

Will trainers and owners go back to him or just ignore him for a while.

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« 2018-Oct-23, 08:42 PM Reply #1989 »
The stewards gave him 6 weeks

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« 2018-Oct-24, 07:44 AM Reply #1990 »
I remember (or at least I think I do :embarrassed: ) a jockey doing the same at  Moonee Valley  night meeting some years ago.

Can't remember the culprit  :embarrassed:

Anyone help me out?


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« 2018-Oct-24, 12:37 PM Reply #1991 »
Rhys McLeod.

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« 2018-Oct-24, 12:48 PM Reply #1992 »
I remember (or at least I think I do :embarrassed: ) a jockey doing the same at  Moonee Valley  night meeting some years ago.

Can't remember the culprit  :embarrassed:

Anyone help me out?

Was also done in a 2800m race at Canterbury in the 80s.

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« 2018-Oct-24, 01:28 PM Reply #1993 »
Sobig

Yes that's right.

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« 2018-Oct-24, 02:08 PM Reply #1994 »
Tommy Smith's apprentice J. Hamilton did the same in a race at Canterbury in the late 60's or early 70's.

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« 2018-Oct-24, 07:50 PM Reply #1995 »
This is the reverse of this topic. But if anyone ever doubts the difference between "the ones who make up the numbers " and the really top riders watch a pretty  "handy jockey " in Race 5 at Geelong Today Just one straight out of the textbook.

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« 2018-Oct-25, 07:42 AM Reply #1996 »
This is the reverse of this topic. But if anyone ever doubts the difference between "the ones who make up the numbers " and the really top riders watch a pretty  "handy jockey " in Race 5 at Geelong Today Just one straight out of the textbook.

It was a gem, wasn’t it. Mind you I got $18 about her so it may cloud my judgment   :lol:

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« 2018-Nov-18, 10:41 AM Reply #1997 »
Stewards take Josh Parr's phone and quiz him regarding his manager
Stewards take Josh Parr's phone and quiz him regarding his manager Josh Parr. Photo: Steve Hart.
Clinton Payne Article Author
Clinton Payne

17 November 2018
Stewards have taken the phone of jockey Josh Parr relating to his ride on Roheryn and his manager’s tipping service which is believed to have tipped the winner Chess Star.

Parr was questioned earlier in the day for his ride on the Godolphin $1.50 favourite which was beaten into second place in the 2019 Membership 3YO Benchmark 76 Handicap (1100m) at Rosehill on Saturday.

“Josh do you not think you could have put your horse under more pressure earlier?” chief steward Marc Van Gestel asked Parr.

“I might not have appeared to put my horse under pressure but I certainly wasn’t holding him up,” Parr replied.

“At the speed they were going, he was not comfortable.

“All the jockeys I have spoken to agreed that the speed of the race was strong, so it seemed mathematically impossible that the leaders were going to run home in the time they did.”

Later in the day, stewards called Parr back into the stewards’ room and questioned him further relating to his manger John Walter who runs a paid tipping service.

“We received information that John Walter runs a tipping service and that tipping service may have tipped the winner,” Van Gestel said.

“Josh Parr gave evidence that he’s spoken to his manager this morning but not in relation to that race.


“We’ve asked (Josh Parr) for his mobile phone.”

Parr told stewards that he didn’t discuss the race with Walter, giving evidence, “I don’t really talk to him about form”.

Stewards have adjourned the matter.

ENDS

Josh's manager John Walter also has Avdulla & Tim Clark on his books and runs a subscriber tipping service.......let's see what if anything the stewards turn up...obviously will be keeping their eyes peeled for future reference.

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« 2018-Dec-01, 01:30 PM Reply #1998 »
Adelaide Race 2 no 1 Benz. Big drifter in the market, misses the start and then races around them to race 3 deep in a 6 horse field. The horse weakened rapidly to finish near the rear.

Jockey may have erred in trying to bustle but not a great look overall.

It is a learning process but Benz maybe good to follow for later.


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