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Offline nemisis

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« 2016-Sep-10, 09:08 AM Reply #50 »
Is Our Ivanhoe heading to MC or just CC?
       After his Doomben Cup the plan was Makybe Diva, The Turnbull Stakes, CC and MC.
       
       I think The Freedmans are pretty rapt with their horse and according to Lee on RSN this morning possibly Cox Plate.

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« 2016-Sep-10, 09:10 AM Reply #51 »
CC I believe mate

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« 2016-Sep-10, 12:35 PM Reply #52 »
Does The Bart Cummings have ballot exemption for the Melbourne Cup ?

That is the way Lucques should go.

 

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« 2016-Sep-11, 02:27 PM Reply #53 »
Shimrano whether he wins here or not has to be a Melbourne Cup prospect.

Why ?

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« 2016-Sep-11, 03:08 PM Reply #54 »
Because he is a quality horse.

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« 2016-Sep-11, 06:18 PM Reply #55 »
Why ?


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« 2016-Sep-11, 09:02 PM Reply #56 »
Cause.

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« 2016-Sep-11, 09:18 PM Reply #57 »
Well, he ran right up to his recent European form, I'll give you that.
I don't think we need to waste any more time on this one at present.

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« 2016-Sep-11, 09:57 PM Reply #58 »
Has Hans Holbein run to his European form ?

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« 2016-Sep-12, 01:13 AM Reply #59 »
I don't know who Hans Holbein is... :what:

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« 2016-Sep-13, 07:42 PM Reply #60 »
On my recent visit to the UK I have been reliably informed by one of my confidants that whatever Willie Mullins ,  the Irish trainer, brings to the Cup, will be hard to beat. He is reputed to be the smartest "money " trainer in Ireland and the U.K. Apparently he took the Bookies to the cleaners at the Chetenham Festival.Last year he trained Max Dynamite to run second in last years Cup only to be beaten by POP, a 100/  chance, Be warned !!!!


Wicklow Brave defeats Order in Irish St Leger
Owner Nick Peacock is relishing the opportunity to have a second crack at the Melbourne Cup following Wicklow Brave's shock victory in the Irish St Leger at the Curragh on Sunday.
"We're now getting sorted for Australia and it is very exciting."

He added: "I don't even want to think about what sort of chance he has at this stage. We're just happy to be going.

"I don't think he'll have another run between now and then.
Peacock's previous Melbourne cup runner, Simenon did have a run in Australia beforehand.

"Wicklow Brave has run a bit later and I don't think he needs to run between now and the Melbourne Cup itself."
THE Irish St Leger did its best to replicate the English equivalent in terms of drama with 1-7 favourite Order Of St George beaten by Wicklow Brave in a stirring renewal.
The market leader, a warm order in the betting and warm order in the race, awash with sweat, looked to be finding for pressure in the straight for Ryan Moore but could not pass the game Wicklow Brave, who made all by half a length under a determined Frankie Dettori for trainer Willie Mullins.
Mullins said: "When I was speaking to Ruby [Walsh] ahead of Westerner Lady's race at Listowel, I asked him had he a minute to talk and discuss what tactics we should use on Wicklow Brave.
"Ruby had ridden him in his last piece of work and he said that he thought we should make the running with him. He was a horse that we were holding up all of his life, and when he came into his races looking like he was going to win, he wouldn't produce what we asked of him.
"Today we said let's make it and see what happens and Frankie was fantastic as he always is."
Paddy Power cut Wicklow Brave to 20-1 (from 33) for the Melbourne Cup, while Ladbrokes go 16-1 (from 25) for the feature handicap down under .
« Last Edit: 2016-Sep-13, 07:49 PM by Bubbasmith »

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« 2016-Sep-20, 09:35 PM Reply #61 »
Melbourne Cup Noms 2016

Big Orange15.00
Wicklow Brave15.00
Bondi Beach17.00
Hartnell17.00
Jameka17.00
Signoff17.00
Curren Mirotic21.00
Exosphere21.00
Idaho21.00
Our Ivanhowe21.00
Tavago21.00
Almoonqith26.00
Beautiful Romance26.00
Erupt26.00
Gallante26.00
Housesofparliament26.00
Scottish26.00
Secret Number26.00
Tarzino26.00
The United States26.00
Who Shot Thebarman26.00
Aloft34.00
Barsanti34.00
Heartbreak City34.00
Preferment34.00
Prince Of Penzance34.00
Red Cardinal34.00
Sacred Master34.00
Sarrasin34.00
Sword Fighter34.00
The Major General34.00
Tosen Stardom34.00
Da Big Hoss41.00
Elite Army41.00
Excess Knowledge41.00
Hauraki41.00
Howard Be Thy Name41.00
Kinema41.00
Oceanographer41.00
Raw Impulse41.00
Arab Dawn51.00
Grand Marshal51.00
Grey Lion51.00
Mime51.00
Pentathlon51.00
Rising Romance51.00
Rose Of Virginia51.00
Second Wave51.00
Set Square51.00
Shamkiyr51.00
Sky Hunter51.00
Tall Ship51.00
Tally51.00
Tom Melbourne51.00
Unicorn51.00
Zanteca51.00
Francis Of Assisi67.00
Hans Holbein67.00
He's Our Rokkii67.00
Kilimanjaro67.00
Master Zephyr67.00
Real Love67.00
Ruling Dynasty67.00
Shimrano67.00
Spiritjim67.00
Storm The Stars67.00
Assign81.00
Cool Chap81.00
Heavens Above81.00
Important Message81.00
Nozomi81.00
Sir John Hawkwood81.00
Almandin101.00
Antonio Giuseppe101.00
Battlecamp101.00
Bold Sniper101.00
Dee I Cee101.00
De Little Engine101.00
Extra Choice101.00
Foundry101.00
Lord Macau101.00
Miss Rose De Lago101.00
Observational101.00
O'Lonera101.00
Pemberley101.00
Qewy101.00
Replique101.00
Second Bullet101.00
Thunder Down Under101.00
Vengeur Masque101.00
Fanatic151.00
Gabella151.00
Manndawi151.00
Scherzoso151.00
Dandy Gent201.00
Danjeu201.00
Escado201.00
Hi World201.00
Orbec201.00
Singing201.00
Stone Warrior201.00
Swacadelic201.00
The Bandit201.00
Amexed301.00
Authoritarian301.00
Azurite301.00
Dane Hussler301.00
Darlux301.00
Dreaded301.00
Lord Disick301.00
Plymouth Road301.00
Tunes1001.00
White Dollar Sign2001.00

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« 2016-Sep-20, 09:48 PM Reply #62 »
Can ANYBODY see Order Of St George in any markets at all ?

He is still nommed for both Cups.


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« 2016-Sep-20, 09:52 PM Reply #63 »
they said on thoroughbred weekly he is not coming ?

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« 2016-Sep-20, 09:55 PM Reply #64 »
they said on thoroughbred weekly he is not coming ?


He is in quarantine "just in case"


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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:01 PM Reply #65 »
cant remember   :shy:

weight ?

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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:16 PM Reply #66 »
But while majority owner Lloyd Williams warned Order Of St George remained “most unlikely” to make a Melbourne raid, the decision to leave the Ascot Gold Cup winner in the spring features was “insurance” against a heavy track for the Arc at Chantilly on October 2.

Williams and O’Brien remain “95 per cent” committed to tackling the Arc — Europe’s richest race — but if the conditions are unsuitable, connections have the option of targeting Melbourne

from somewhere on the net

 :shrug:

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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:20 PM Reply #67 »
News for order of st george melbourne cup


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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:24 PM Reply #68 »
I reckon the fact bookies are not publishing a price they do not believe them and are not risking anything.


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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:29 PM Reply #69 »
i think your right

Melbourne Cup: Order Of St George among second acceptances for Caulfield Cup and Cox Plate

i think i found it

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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:32 PM Reply #70 »
maybe not , google it yourself   :bulb:

cant post the link sorry

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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:36 PM Reply #71 »
Here’s who to look out for.
 
(Note all weights listed here will rise 0.5kgs if the horses Order Of St George and Protectionist, allocated as top-weight, don’t line-up, as is expected. The minimum top-weight for the Cup must be 57kgs.)
 
Wicklow Brave
 The Irish St Leger winner is the current equal favourite for the race, weighted with 55kgs.
 
He beat the Lloyd Williams-owned Order Of St George, the previous favourite for the Cup, which surprised even trainer Willie Mullins.

Order Of St George now looks unlikely to make it across, and will instead attempt to win an Arc.
 
Cup winner and German horse Protectionist, trained by Andreas Wohler, shares the top weight of 58kg with Order Of St George, but is also looking unlikely after an injury setback.

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« 2016-Sep-20, 10:42 PM Reply #72 »
Japense Raider: Curren Mirotic
 Likely to be the only Japanese raider in the Cup field. Given 55.5kgs, he was second in the Group 1 Tenno Sho Stakes. He’s a rising eight-year old, but hasn’t won in three-years.
 
One of the better two-mile horses in Japan, this bloke will frighten a few.

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« 2016-Sep-21, 01:46 AM Reply #73 »
Just saw the article on racingpost.com, wouldn't be surprised to see him here, Lloyd loves the cup above all.

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« 2016-Sep-21, 08:16 AM Reply #74 »
Here’s who to look out for.
 

 
Wicklow Brave
 The Irish St Leger winner is the current equal favourite for the race, weighted with 55kgs.
 
He beat the Lloyd Williams-owned Order Of St George, the previous favourite for the Cup, which surprised even trainer Willie Mullins.

I jumped on before his last win and got $121 but in regards to who else to watch. OCEANOGRAPHER is a great price in the MC. Wish I could get some footage of his Ebor run. It was fantastic


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