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Offline samatt

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« 2017-Jul-18, 06:01 PM Reply #25 »
Sarrasin is very interesting, had a quiet return trial at Rosehill today for Waller. Lightly raced 5yo by Monsun out of a High Chap mare, that's a good head start.
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« 2017-Jul-22, 05:20 PM Reply #26 »
Maybe the track got a bit firm for Kilimanjaro today or maybe Team Williams are trying to do an Almandin.

It was interesting that Almandin only showed how good he was, straight after the cup weights were released.

Couldn't blame the Williams' camp for trying the same formula.

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« 2017-Jul-23, 10:59 AM Reply #27 »
Maybe the track got a bit firm for Kilimanjaro today or maybe Team Williams are trying to do an Almandin.

It was interesting that Almandin only showed how good he was, straight after the cup weights were released.

Couldn't blame the Williams' camp for trying the same formula.

With a rating of 89 he needs to do some winning. Need at least 105 to get the minimum for the Cups.

I suspect next time they have a 2500m race at Flemington this guy will be out in front and winning.


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« 2017-Aug-11, 01:13 PM Reply #28 »
The Waller Monsun horse Sarrasin goes around tomorrow at Rosehill. Not expecting much this Saturday but a big watch on this fellow. Couple of nice quiet trials working through the line, including a good conditioning trial behind Ugo Fuscolo.

Tough gig to pick the winner in early markets though, seems like they are coming from everywhere for the Cup this year, far more than usual.

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« 2017-Aug-11, 07:03 PM Reply #29 »
How's Lloyd going to get Crocodile Rock into the cup with a BM of 70

Should have run in he Autumn

Is he ready tomorrow or put in a shocker like Almandin did

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« 2017-Aug-11, 07:34 PM Reply #30 »
Who really cares these days ? They basically have achieved changing the fabric of Australian Racing by making it a quality handicap and letting all these overseas billionaires bring their second raters over here. Who has it been good for ? Just our own free loading billionaires and their associated hangers on . Second question ' Why do people call him LLoyd ; as if they know him? He wouldn't give them the time of day.

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« 2017-Aug-12, 10:04 AM Reply #31 »
Who really cares these days ? They basically have achieved changing the fabric of Australian Racing by making it a quality handicap and letting all these overseas billionaires bring their second raters over here. Who has it been good for ? Just our own free loading billionaires and their associated hangers on . Second question ' Why do people call him LLoyd ; as if they know him? He wouldn't give them the time of day.
Hard to get your point here re Lloyd Williams other than to show that you seem to  carry rather a large chip on your shoulder.
His imported stayers do carry a lot of interest for a lot of people and there is no doubt  his horses are going to be big players in the spring.

"Lloyd" is just his identification and for sure he would not be giving me the time of day.

If I had a little gripe about him it would be as a casino owner ......some of his wealth would have been acquired from the misery of many.
However with the the TAB's mantra of " if you are silly enough to put your money on a little man with a big stick riding a horse, we will give you every opportunity to do so " there is little difference.

I'll no doubt be backing one of his horses in the cup, and for me he is able to keep my dwindling interest in this game alive.

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« 2017-Aug-15, 02:04 AM Reply #32 »
I don't like the overseas horses coming in for our Cup either...........but nothing against the horses, I am not racist against horses from overseas.........just connections..............I don't like it being turned into a Claytons handicap either...............I am not a real fan of Lloyd Williams as he has enough already..........but at least he is Australian, he cherishes the Melbourne Cup.......gotta respect him for that.........he is our big hope of keeping the Cup here

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« 2017-Aug-15, 08:45 AM Reply #33 »
The make a new cup for every running.


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