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O.P. « 2017-Jul-06, 08:54 AM »

Owner Lloyd Williams has pencilled in a comeback race for Melbourne Cup winner Almandin but suggested Racing Victoria add more staying races in the lead-up to the big spring cups.

Lloyd Williams wants more staying races in the months of August and September. Photo: Darryl Sherer

Almandin hasn't raced since his Melbourne Cup triumph last spring but Williams told the Herald-Sun he was considering the Group I Makybe Diva Stakes (1600m) on September 16 as the import's first-up assignment.

Williams said the Makybe Diva Stakes was not his first choice but there aren't enough viable options for stayers that have a rating of 100 or more. Almandin was rated 114 after his Melbourne Cup win.

Williams said the issue was apparent in the August and September calendars.

"In Melbourne it is very difficult as there aren't any races at 2000m or further at weight-for-age or quality set weights handicaps in those months," Williams said.

"Horses which are rated at 100 and over are very difficult to place in lead up races to our major races. I hope over time the industry amends the program."

The Hall Of Fame inductee, who has made an art form of targeting high-priced imports at big Australian races, said the situation favoured Caulfield and Melbourne Cup hopefuls trained overseas.

"In the United Kingdom, Ireland and Europe it is much easier to prepare stayers as there are more set weight races over distances at 2000m, 2400m, 2600m and 2800m," Williams said.

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« 2017-Nov-13, 03:59 AM Reply #1 »

Johannes Vermeer painted out of Caulfield Cup result

Lloyd may not be pleased!

I may be reading different editions of the SMH in France, but I did read that Johannes Vermeer ran 3rd in the Caulfield Cup.

This does not seem to reflect in a story in the SMH this morning:

Caulfield Cup history

Just on the Melbourne Cup, it's staggering to think of the Caulfield Cup's wretched recent history in producing winners of Australia's great race.

Not since Viewed in 2008 has a Melbourne Cup winner used the Caulfield Cup as its final lead-up to the first Tuesday in November.

In between the Herbert Power, Geelong Cup, Cox Plate, Lexus Stakes and The Bart Cummings have all been races which have put the polish on the Cup winner.

This year? Cup favourite Marmelo was the best of the Caulfield Cup graduates and he only laboured home in ninth. The rest of those which came out of Boom Time's Caulfield Cup win wobbled home behind him.

Maybe the Caulfield Cup's relevance to Melbourne Cup betting markets has never been so overstated.

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« 2017-Nov-16, 04:41 PM Reply #2 »

Just compensation for explicablr mistake

This 'mistake' in a report on Cup week outcomes seems to have gone through to the keeper without any substantial agreement or response.

A racing journo making such a fundamental mistake should surely do some community service to balance the ledger.

One might, for example, like to see a considered piece on the matter of 'rough results' in races run over 1400m at Flemington --- why does it happen, who benefits when one leg of a quadrella is won by an outsider, what do the TAB punters think of the situation etc, etc.

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« 2017-Nov-16, 05:35 PM Reply #3 »

Keeper on the job,

There has been a late development -- the story has been corrected to acknowledge the painter as the best performed graduate from the Ccup to the Mcup.

Even so the case for a compesatory story on a topic to please punters remains.