The Greatest Aussie Melbourne Cup
I recently saw on another website an attempt to effectiveredo what was done by racing.com et al in 2010 (see eg https://www.punters.com.au/news/Full-field-for-fictional-Melbourne-Cup_13046/
for 'Fictional field for the greatest-ever Melbourne Cup - The Greatest Cup Never Run'.
In my case I imagine a race run at set weights for aussie trained horses so Makybe Diva is in the mix.
After the 18 horse field I have included a list of notable omissions and below that a list of horses with superior 2400m for that might be in the mix in a set weight race over 2400m (it follows some of the 3200m horses might have to get the flick if the field were limited to 18 over 2400m.).
The 18 horse field:
Set Weight Melbourne Cup over 3200m for 4YO&Up
Horses and geldings to carry 57kg and mares 55kg (Wakeful and Makybe Diva). This is the basis on which many new international races are now run.
Field limited to 18 to reduce luck in running as a factor.
Must have won a cup race over 2 miles or 3200 metres in Australia or New Zealand. (Capital city cups in Australia and Auckland, Wellington or New Zealand cups if run over 3200m or further. Only Beau Vite and Kindergarten (both Auckland Cup winners) made the field).
Must have been trained in Australia or New Zealand (note cannot find an ANZ trained horse that competed overseas that won won over an equivalent distance overseas).
3YO only cup winners omitted as assumed not able to compete against a crack field of older horses carrying set weights.
Must be a proven WFA winner and have won at WFA over 2000m or further. In earlier times WFA includes races at WFA with penalties and allowances. In essence this means horses without a superior win to start record will not qualify.
The three horses with a win percentage below 50% are Rising Fast (24 wins) 35.3%, Rain Lover (17 wins) 37%, Makybe Diva (15 wins) 41.7%. Dalray had the least number of wins (14) for a win percentage of 51.9%.
3YO Derby (@2400m.) or St Leger wins (@2800m.) not considered equal to open age WFA wins.
4YO&Up horses that won a 3200m. cup eliminated in order of lower weight carried to a win. Highest weighted horse eliminated was Might and Power with 56kg.
Horse Cup wins and weights carried (2nds if notable)
THE BARB (AUS) 1863 Sydney Cup 56kg, 67kg, Melb. Cup 44kg
CARBINE (NZ) 1885 Melb. Cup 66kg, Sydney Cup 57kg, 61kg
WAKEFUL (AUS) 1896 Sydney Cup 60kg, 2nd Melb Cup 0.75L 63.5kg winner 42kg
POITREL (AUS) 1914 Melb. Cup 63.5kg
EURYTHMIC (AUS) 1916 Sydney Cup 61kg, Perth Cup DH 1st 48.5kg (3YO)
WINDBAG (AUS) 1921 Melb. Cup 58kg
PHAR LAP (NZ) 1926 Melb. Cup 62.5kg
PETER PAN (AUS) 1929 Melb. Cup 47kg (3YO), 62kg
BEAU VITE (NZ) 1936 Auckland Cup 60kg
KINDERGARTEN (NZ) 1937 Auckland Cup 64.5kg
COMIC COURT (AUS) 1945 Melb. Cup 59.5kg
DELTA (AUS) 1946 Melb. Cup 59.5kg
DALRAY (NZ) 1948 Melb. Cup 61kg
RISING FAST (NZ) 1949 Melb. Cup 59.5kg (2nd 63.5kg 0.75L)
TULLOCH (NZ) 1954 Brisbane Cup 62.5kg
GALILEE (NZ) 1962 Sydney Cup 60kg, Melb. Cup 56.5kg
RAIN LOVER (AUS) 1964 Melb. Cup 52kg, 60kg, Adelaide Cup 46kg (3YO)
MAKYBE DIVA (GB) 1999 Melb Cup 51kg 55.5kg, 58kg, Sydney Cup 55.5kg
TIM WHIFFLER (AUS) 1862
CHESTER (AUS) 1874
ABERCORN (AUS) 1884
GRAND FLANEUR (AUS) 1877
POSEIDON (AUS) 1903
TRAFALGAR (AUS) 1905
HALL MARK (AUS) 1930
SUPER IMPOSE (NZ) 1984
BEAU ZAM (NZ) 1984
LET'S ELOPE (NZ) 1987
SAINTLY (NZ) 1992
TIE THE KNOT (AUS) 1994
Possible inclusions for a 2400m set weight Melbourne Cup.
SAILOR'S GUIDE (AUS) 1952
TOBIN BRONZE (AUS) 1962
DARYL'S JOY (NZ) 1966
GUNSYND (AUS) 1967
LEILANI (NZ) 1970
BALMERINO (NZ) 1972
KINGSTON TOWN (AUS) 1976
STRAWBERRY ROAD (AUS) 1979
BONECRUSHER (NZ) 1982
HORLICKS (NZ) 1983
BETTER LOOSEN UP (AUS) 1985
OCTAGONAL (NZ) 1992
MIGHT AND POWER (NZ) 1993
NORTHERLY (AUS) 1996