Author Topic: The "Aussie" Melbourne Cup (Read 20145 times)

PoisonPen7 · « 2016-Oct-30, 03:51 PM **Reply #75** »

One shy of the ultimate embarrassment

No	Last 10	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Barrier	Weight	Penalty	Hcp Rating
1	7x5x23x11x	BIG ORANGE (GB)	Michael Bell	Jamie Spencer	7	57kg		117
2	0x5501x586	OUR IVANHOWE (GER)	Lee & Anthony Freedman	Dwayne Dunn	6	57kg		116
3	x300x620x9	CURREN MIROTIC (JPN)	Osamu Hirata	Tommy Berry	18	56.5kg		116
4	1220x11x33	BONDI BEACH (IRE)	Aidan O'Brien	Ryan Moore	5	56kg		116
5	1413x18353	EXOSPHERIC (GB)	Lee & Anthony Freedman	Damien Oliver	13	56kg		117
6	50x5x21112	HARTNELL (GB)	John O'Shea	James McDonald	12	56kg		123
7	0324x65272	WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ)	Chris Waller	Hugh Bowman	20	56kg		115
8	3333x26431	WICKLOW BRAVE (GB)	William Mullins	Frankie Dettori	24	56kg		117
9	x9065x8084	ALMOONQITH (USA)	David & B Hayes & T Dabernig	Michael Walker	19	54.5kg		112
10	069x031x27	GALLANTE (IRE)	Robert Hickmott	Blake Shinn	2	54.5kg		114
11	8533x72691	GRAND MARSHAL (GB)	Chris Waller	Ben Melham	9	54.5kg		115
12	5324x47121	JAMEKA	Ciaron Maher	Nicholas Hall	3	54.5kg	2.0kg	119
13	00x101x11x	HEARTBREAK CITY (FR)	Tony Martin	Joao Moreira	23	54kg		113
14	2x1322x210	SIR JOHN HAWKWOOD (IRE)	John P Thompson	Blake Spriggs	14	54kg	1.5kg	114
15	17x20x9834	EXCESS KNOWLEDGE (GB)	Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott	Vlad Duric	21	53.5kg		111
16	x6153x1553	BEAUTIFUL ROMANCE (GB)	Saeed Bin Suroor	Damian Lane	1	52.5kg		110
17	x221x66511	ALMANDIN (GER)	Robert Hickmott	Kerrin McEvoy	17	52kg	1.0kg	108
18	8x1153x921	ASSIGN (IRE)	Robert Hickmott	Ms Katelyn Mallyon	22	52kg	1.0kg	104
19	32x1837x82	GREY LION (IRE)	Matt Cumani	Glen Boss	16	52kg		107
20	11x4017x31	OCEANOGRAPHER (GB)	Charlie Appleby	Chad Schofield	11	52kg	1.0kg	107
21	361x2x12x1	SECRET NUMBER (GB)	Saeed Bin Suroor	Stephen Baster	10	52kg		112
22	3254x06737	PENTATHLON (NZ)	John Wheeler	Mark Du Plessis	4	51.5kg		102
23	22x0Fx22x1	QEWY (IRE)	Charlie Appleby	Craig Williams	15	51.5kg	0.5kg	107
24	62102x0940	ROSE OF VIRGINIA (NZ)	Lee & Shannon Hope	Ben E Thompson (a)	8	51kg		100

Authorized · « 2016-Oct-30, 03:55 PM **Reply #76** »

Don't we include our neighbours ?

tontonan · « 2016-Oct-30, 04:37 PM **Reply #77** »

That's just so sad.

I think you should invoke the ancestry clause to get Who Shotthebarman a run.

He has a mighty colonial pedigree that dates back to Georgiana in 1842 at the former convict butcher Charlie Smith's Bungarribee Stud at Doonside. The family crossed the Tasman around the turn of the century but his dam sire is Carolingian, a Bletchingly from Cena, and Cena's bloodline goes all the way back to Dinah who was the mother of Musidora who started in five Melbourne Cups, was ancestress of Newhaven who won the Cup in 1896 and was the dam of Briseis who won the Cup in 1876.

He would make a fine Aussie Melbourne Cup winner.

Shame he has drawn 20.

JWesleyHarding · « 2016-Oct-30, 05:27 PM **Reply #78** »

Surely Excess Knowledge qualifies.

Been here 3 1/2 years having 19 of 25 starts here.

PoisonPen7 · « 2016-Oct-30, 07:38 PM **Reply #79** »

Nope. No allowance for "long term residents", or New Zealanders, or New Zealanders with Australian ancestry.

That means I don't have to wait until after the race to post the table update.

Barring the scratching of Jameka....get used to this I reckon.

Year	1st	2nd	3rd	Notes
2016	Jameka	Insufficient Starters	Insufficient Starters
2015	Prince Of Penzance	Criterion	Gust Of Wind
2014	Signoff	Precedence	Fawkner
2013	Fawkner	Ethiopia	Super Cool
2012	Precedence	Niwot	Lights Of Heaven
2011	Niwot	Precedence	The Verminator
2010	Maluckyday	So You Think	Zipping
2009	Shocking	Master O'Reilly	Alcopop
2008	Viewed	Master O'Reilly	Moatize
2007	Efficient	Zipping	Dolphin Jo
2006	Maybe Better	Zipping	Mahtoum
2005	Makybe Diva	On A Jeune	Leica Falcon
2004	Makybe Diva	Zazzman	Elvestroem
2003	Makybe Diva	She's Archie	Pentastic
2002	Mr Prudent	Pentastic	Rain Gauge
2001	Karasi	Rain Gauge	Sky Heights
2000	Brew	Yippyio	Freemason
1999	Rogan Josh	Lahar (DH)	Zazabelle (DH)	(DH 2nd)
1998	Tie The Knot	Skybeau	Perpetual Check
1997	Might And Power	Doriemus	Markham
1996	Saintly	Count Chivas	Skybeau
1995	Doriemus	Nothin' Leica Dane	Coachwood
1994	Paris Lane	Oompala	Alcove

JWesleyHarding · « 2016-Oct-30, 08:08 PM **Reply #80** »

Quote from: PoisonPen7 on 2012-Nov-07, 01:24 AM

iii) It is OK if the horse is bred overseas as long as it has done all (or nearly all) of it's racing here.

I'd say 19 of 25 is "nearly all".

gunbower · « 2016-Oct-30, 08:39 PM **Reply #81** »

It just goes to show how the VRC have allowed one of our great National days to be murdered. I can't contain my excitement at the thought of one of these Godolphin horses winning the Melbourne Cup. Its bad enough that these oil rich sheiks screw us every day when we put fuel in our cars and yet we
welcome them here with open arms to participate and maybe even steal one of our remaining National treasures. Its like Cricket Australia playing the Boxing Day Test between India and Pakistan.

nemisis · « 2016-Oct-30, 09:10 PM **Reply #82** »

Quote from: gunbower on 2016-Oct-30, 08:39 PM

It just goes to show how the VRC have allowed one of our great National days to be murdered. I can't contain my excitement at the thought of one of these Godolphin horses winning the Melbourne Cup. Its bad enough that these oil rich sheiks screw us every day when we put fuel in our cars and yet we
welcome them here with open arms to participate and maybe even steal one of our remaining National treasures. Its like Cricket Australia playing the Boxing Day Test between India and Pakistan.

Gunbower,
The opportunity is there for any Australian breeder to breed staying horses.

I don't know of any commercial sons of Galileo or Montjeu that even stand in this country.
Even Green Moon was sent back to Ireland.

They could make the Mel. Cup 1600 metres and then I'm sure you'll see plenty of locals.

gunbower · « 2016-Oct-30, 09:35 PM **Reply #83** »

Nemisis I know we will never go back. All I am saying is that is that the charm of the Cup was the stories behind the winners. The school teacher who owned Rogan Josh and gave it to Bart. Snowy Lupton whose horse rounded up cattle ; Kiwi. The comeback jockey on Kensei and last year's story which you couldn't script. This year the Race is filled with the property developers European imports and a host of some Sheiks horses. Loses a lot in my opinion.

Authorized · « 2016-Oct-30, 09:39 PM **Reply #84** »

Quote from: gunbower on 2016-Oct-30, 09:35 PM

Nemisis I know we will never go back. All I am saying is that is that the charm of the Cup was the stories behind the winners. The school teacher who owned Rogan Josh and gave it to Bart. Snowy Lupton whose horse rounded up cattle ; Kiwi. The comeback jockey on Kensei and last year's story which you couldn't script. This year the Race is filled with the property developers European imports and a host of some Sheiks horses. Loses a lot in my opinion.

The problem is not that Australia does not breed stayers it simply does not develop stayers.

Another problem is that the VRC or whatever they are called have tried to make it a Group 1 race when it should be a handicap.

JWesleyHarding · « 2016-Oct-31, 07:04 AM **Reply #85** »

Quote from: Authorized on 2016-Oct-30, 09:39 PM

Another problem is that the VRC or whatever they are called have tried to make it a Group 1 race when it should be a handicap.

Auth giving that old chestnut of his another hit-out.

nemisis · « 2016-Oct-31, 07:37 AM **Reply #86** »

Quote from: gunbower on 2016-Oct-30, 09:35 PM

Nemisis I know we will never go back. All I am saying is that is that the charm of the Cup was the stories behind the winners. The school teacher who owned Rogan Josh and gave it to Bart. Snowy Lupton whose horse rounded up cattle ; Kiwi. The comeback jockey on Kensei and last year's story which you couldn't script. This year the Race is filled with the property developers European imports and a host of some Sheiks horses. Loses a lot in my opinion.

Gunbower,
I know what you mean but the chance to breed a Doriemus still exists, maybe not in Australia.

Golden Woods the dam of Doriemus was by Zamazaan and was sent to the knackery before Doriemus raced.

Authorized · « 2016-Oct-31, 07:47 AM **Reply #87** »

Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2016-Oct-31, 07:04 AM

Auth giving that old chestnut of his another hit-out.

You know it's true.

pegasyber · « 2016-Oct-31, 01:09 PM **Reply #88** »

Even the Computer cant make sense of this Melbourne Cup with 8 and 9 year olds and those with no recent racing notified makes a mockery of this assortment. Cant'send emails out for two days now????.
Good luck may just have to watch this one.

Authorized · « 2016-Oct-31, 06:27 PM **Reply #89** »

Authorized · « 2016-Oct-31, 06:28 PM **Reply #90** »

FLEMINGTON (MELBOURNE CUP 2016 - TOP AUSSIE) Information
Tuesday 01/11/2016
3:00 PM
Win
Hartnell (Top Aussie)
3.00
Jameka (Top Aussie)
4.40
Almandin (Top Aussie)
6.00
Exospheric (Top Aussie)
10.00
Almoonqith (Top Aussie)
13.00
Who Shot Thebarman (Top Aussie)
17.00
Grand Marshal (Top Aussie)
21.00
Our Ivanhowe (Top Aussie)
21.00
Gallante (Top Aussie)
26.00
Grey Lion (Top Aussie)
26.00
Assign (Top Aussie)
41.00
Excess Knowledge (Top Aussie)
41.00
Sir John Hawkwood (Top Aussie)
41.00
Pentathalon (Top Aussie)
67.00
Rose Of Virginia (Top Aussie)
67.00

pegasyber · « 2016-Nov-01, 08:08 AM **Reply #91** »

Sorry about that stuff up, but Telstra seems to have it in for me around The Melbourne Cuup time.

Never been so underwhelmed by a Melbourne Cup field; have not even arranged our special Melbourne Cup luncheon of Prawns, Chocolate Eclairs and Champagne; but the computers selectíons should be fixed so that we can check just how good the Internationals are against our one true Aussie entrant No 12 Jameka.

VF250916 MC70111F * RACE NAME ID* [ MC70111F MELBOURNE CUP 2016,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 3200 mtrs]. COMPRUN 10-30-2016. AT 06:28:01 RESULT [ ] FILE MC70111SPFAC.TXT

* THE GENERAL SPEED SYSTEM ANALYSIS. PROBLEM THIS YEAR WITH OVERSEAS HORSES AND THEIR DAYS SINCE AND DISTANCE CHANGE A PROBLEM.

VF250916 MC70111F * WMSPD ORD TNO [ 1 3 8 20 13 23 16 10 6 19 5 12 18 9 14 15 2 17 7 22 24 11 21 4 ] * ] BMVRS/W [ 1 BIG ORANGE W 6yo <. Dtl= 94 ] 20 OCEANOGRAPHE 5yo <. Dtl= 3 ] ]*SPL*

VF250916 MC70111F * GW$CLASS$ ORD [ 12 10 3 6 11 1 2 7 4 5 16 15 14 21 9 18 20 23 17 8 13 19 22 24 ]. 7 WHO SH 10d 700m -1k 8y] [ 12 JAMEKA 17d 800m 2k 4y] [ 2 OUR IV 17d 800m .5k 7y] [ 21 SECRET 46d 1188m -5k 7y.

VF250916 MC70111F * L600 FSPD T10 [ 1 8 11 12 13 17 18 20 21 23 19 7 4 5 9 15 2 16 3 14 6 22 10 24 ]* BFT2[ 17 ALMAND Rk x12 Ln x0. ] *BMVRF[ 12 JAMEKA Rk x8 Ln X0. ] [ 18 ASSIGN Rk x6 Ln x0. ] n [ 0 Rx0 Ln x0. ] ESP. for VERY HEAVY!.

VF250916 MC70111F * SIMUL PACE ALL[ 1 13 3 20 19 23 18 12 5 9 16 2 14 17 22 24 6 8 7 11 21 4 15 10 ] *BPT4 [ 18 ASSIGN x6 ] *BMVRP [ 19 GREY L x5 [ 12 JAMEKA x4 ] REL/SPWM. USEFUL IN DST/DEAD/SLOW esp. A TOP4 Ln*

VF250916 MC70111F * KEY SPEED NOS [ 1 8 13 ? 20 * =*NK*. .]>1. 11 12 * 3 ?y. ] *HiWM>GW$C [ < 7<. < 12 4y< ]. *N1/2W<<SP= 12 10 << 18 12 <<=BDUPL. *BP%P*= 4<: ]. <<] ]CKCNT.

* THE STATISTICAL FACTORS SYSTEM ANALYSIS *. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT THE WINNER IS FOUND IN TOP TWO IN FOLLOWING LINE. IE. [ 6 HARTNELL AND 12 JAMEKA. ]

SF050916 MC70111W * STANDOUT FACT2[ 6 HARTNELL[100 NOW *STANDOUT* DUE problems ?DD?&?DC? for NO 12 JAMEKA[95] on GOOD 3200mtr Trk.

SF050916 MC70111W * SPCL SLODS ON [ 6 HARTNELL[1 10ds. $1. << BLOW << $14.8. TRK=GOOD 20 OCEANOGRAP 3ds. $1.9. << BLOW << $14.1. TRK=GOOD ] DBLCHK RUFF4$ WIN
SF050916 MC70111W * SOLE SUPA SPL [ 20 OCEANOGRAPHER[94] W% 36 55 5yo. Won T WTCHG -2 Kg. [ 0 ] ** F4 ABSOLUTE BOX. E/WAY BET AT $ 5/1.)

SF050916 MC70111W * TOP8 FACTORS. [ 6 12 20 7 19 21 10 18 23 4 15 ] TOP6* Best.+SUPDUPL[ 18 12 ] CHK WTs.NO 6 -3kg. AND NO 12 2kg. ?TICK?

SF050916 MC70111W * BEST FACT/KSN [ 6 12 20 7 / KSN 1 * 8 13 ? 20 ** =*NK*. .]>1. 9 * 19 23 * 3 ?y. ] ] REMOVE/MARK PROBS MAX OF 7.

# PERHAPS IN THIS CASE THE TOP SEVEN ARE [ 6 12 20 7 1 8 9 ] AND CONSIDERING THE 8 AND 9 YEAR OLDS AND THE GREATER THAN 25 DAYS SINCE LAST RUN ???.

* iN THE LINE ABOVE WE SEE ALMOST NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SPEED ANALYSIS AND THE FACTORS ANALYSIS. EXCEPT FOR NO 20 OCEANOGRAPHER.

* POSSIBLE BETS [ 6 12 20 7 10 ] AND CHECK T5TTL [ 17 12 4 2 9 ] RE-CHECK LRWD [ 20 17 18 1 10 ]
If I am silly enough to have a first four it would be [ 6 12 4 rvbnkr ] x [ as many of the rest in the above line, you can afford ] $20 oops? would give you about 10% but only if it wins; then you might be able to buy a Nutribullet or Flavorstone.

PoisonPen7 · « 2017-Nov-06, 01:23 AM **Reply #92** »

A field of 3 going around this year. Some sort of outside chance we may have the winner

No	Last 10	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Barrier	Weight
1	x2822x1229	HARTNELL (GB)	James Cummings	Damian Lane	12	57.5kg
2	665111x214	ALMANDIN (GER)	Robert Hickmott	Frankie Dettori	14	56.5kg
3	212x681352	HUMIDOR (NZ)	Darren Weir	Blake Shinn	13	56kg
4	242x11711x	TIBERIAN (FR)	Alain Couetil	Olivier Peslier	23	55.5kg
5	232x1521x6	MARMELO (GB)	Hughie Morrison	Hugh Bowman	16	55kg
6	1132x11x5x	RED CARDINAL (IRE)	Andreas Wohler	Kerrin McEvoy	24	55kg
7	3x45712x23	JOHANNES VERMEER (IRE)	Aidan O'Brien	Ben Melham	3	54.5kg
8	x11x330x90	BONDI BEACH (IRE)	Robert Hickmott	Michael Walker	1	54kg
9	1x2x30x91x	MAX DYNAMITE (FR)	William Mullins	Zac Purton	2	54kg
10	121x5x7620	VENTURA STORM (IRE)	David & B Hayes & T Dabernig	Glen Boss	6	54kg
11	3642x94491	WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ)	Chris Waller	Tommy Berry	20	54kg
12	0x81424440	WICKLOW BRAVE (GB)	William Mullins	Stephen Baster	8	54kg
13	113x550214	BIG DUKE (IRE)	Darren Weir	Brenton Avdulla	5	53.5kg
14	428x320386	US ARMY RANGER (IRE)	Joseph O'Brien	Jamie Spencer	22	53.5kg
15	6510x39341	BOOM TIME	David & B Hayes & T Dabernig	Cory Parish	9	53kg
16	031x270x07	GALLANTE (IRE)	Robert Hickmott	Michael Dee	18	53kg
17	746Px61652	LIBRAN (IRE)	Chris Waller	Dwayne Dunn	7	53kg
18	202x024x1x	NAKEETA (GB)	Iain Jardine	Glyn Schofield	19	53kg
19	2612x05442	SINGLE GAZE	Nick Olive	Ms Kathy O'Hara	11	53kg
20	11x6248x22	WALL OF FIRE (IRE)	Hugo Palmer	Craig Williams	15	53kg
21	9P01712x72	THOMAS HOBSON (GB)	William Mullins	Joao Moreira	21	52kg
22	210x140124	REKINDLING (GB)	Joseph O'Brien	Corey Brown	4	51.5kg
23	214x839410	AMELIE’S STAR	Darren Weir	Dean Yendall	10	51kg
24	2325210331	CISMONTANE (NZ)	Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott	Beau Mertens (a)	17	50kg

Authorized · « 2017-Nov-06, 08:15 AM **Reply #93** »

My trifecta

Boom Time
Amelie's Star
Single Gaze

Gintara · « 2017-Nov-06, 09:46 PM **Reply #94** »

Quote from: Authorized on 2017-Nov-06, 08:15 AM

My trifecta

Boom Time
Amelie's Star
Single Gaze

I'll go

Amelie's Star
Single Gaze
Boom Time

PoisonPen7 · « 2017-Nov-06, 09:52 PM **Reply #95** »

Quote from: Gintara on 2017-Nov-06, 09:46 PM

I'll go

Amelie's Star
Single Gaze
Boom Time

What happened to Amelies in the Caulfield Cup? Thought she got a pretty cheap lead from out wide and surprised she folded up so quickly

Very disappointing.

Gintara · « 2017-Nov-06, 10:02 PM **Reply #96** »

Ridden too close, she's better sitting back further and launching

PoisonPen7 · « 2017-Nov-06, 10:58 PM **Reply #97** »

My apologies here. There are actually 4 Aussie runners

No	Last 10	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Barrier	Weight	3200 m Record	Longest Win
1	x2822x1229	HARTNELL (GB)	James Cummings	Damian Lane	12	57.5kg	4:1-0-1	3219
2	665111x214	ALMANDIN (GER)	Robert Hickmott	Frankie Dettori	14	56.5kg	1:1-0-0	3200
3	212x681352	HUMIDOR (NZ)	Darren Weir	Blake Shinn	13	56kg	0:0-0-0	2000
4	242x11711x	TIBERIAN (FR)	Alain Couetil	Olivier Peslier	23	55.5kg	0:0-0-0	3000
5	232x1521x6	MARMELO (GB)	Hughie Morrison	Hugh Bowman	16	55kg	0:0-0-0	3000
6	1132x11x5x	RED CARDINAL (IRE)	Andreas Wohler	Kerrin McEvoy	24	55kg	2:2-0-0	3219
7	3x45712x23	JOHANNES VERMEER (IRE)	Aidan O'Brien	Ben Melham	3	54.5kg	0:0-0-0	2011
8	x11x330x90	BONDI BEACH (IRE)	Robert Hickmott	Michael Walker	1	54kg	2:0-0-0	2816
9	1x2x30x91x	MAX DYNAMITE (FR)	William Mullins	Zac Purton	2	54kg	9:1-4-0	3419
10	121x5x7620	VENTURA STORM (IRE)	David & B Hayes & T Dabernig	Glen Boss	6	54kg	0:0-0-0	2500
11	3642x94491	WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ)	Chris Waller	Tommy Berry	20	54kg	8:1-2-1	3200
12	0x81424440	WICKLOW BRAVE (GB)	William Mullins	Stephen Baster	8	54kg	19:7-1-2	3420
13	113x550214	BIG DUKE (IRE)	Darren Weir	Brenton Avdulla	5	53.5kg	1:0-0-1	2600
14	428x320386	US ARMY RANGER (IRE)	Joseph O'Brien	Jamie Spencer	22	53.5kg	1:0-0-0	2474
15	6510x39341	BOOM TIME	David & B Hayes & T Dabernig	Cory Parish	9	53kg	1:0-0-0	2500
16	031x270x07	GALLANTE (IRE)	Robert Hickmott	Michael Dee	18	53kg	2:1-0-0	3200
17	746Px61652	LIBRAN (IRE)	Chris Waller	Dwayne Dunn	7	53kg	2:0-1-0	2600
18	202x024x1x	NAKEETA (GB)	Iain Jardine	Glyn Schofield	19	53kg	1:0-1-0	2816
19	2612x05442	SINGLE GAZE	Nick Olive	Ms Kathy O'Hara	11	53kg	0:0-0-0	2200
20	11x6248x22	WALL OF FIRE (IRE)	Hugo Palmer	Craig Williams	15	53kg	2:0-0-0	2920
21	9P01712x72	THOMAS HOBSON (GB)	William Mullins	Joao Moreira	21	52kg	5:2-1-0	4014
22	210x140124	REKINDLING (GB)	Joseph O'Brien	Corey Brown	4	51.5kg	0:0-0-0	2816
23	214x839410	AMELIE’S STAR	Darren Weir	Dean Yendall	10	51kg	0:0-0-0	2500
24	2325210331	CISMONTANE (NZ)	Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott	Beau Mertens (a)	17	50kg	0:0-0-0	2500

I'll go Cismontane to beat Single Gaze and Boom Time.

PoisonPen7 · « 2018-May-20, 05:02 PM **Reply #98** »

Mentioning the Aussie Melbourne Cup on the other thread reminded me I hadn't updated this thread last year:

Year	1st	Actual Finish	2nd	Actual Finish	3rd	Actual Finish	Actual Winner	Notes
2017	Cismontane	13	Amelies Star	14	Boom Time	15	Rekindling
2016	Jameka	15	Insufficient Starters		Insufficient Starters		Almandin
2015	Prince Of Penzance	1	Criterion	3	Gust Of Wind	6	Prince Of Penzance
2014	Signoff	4	Precedence	6	Fawkner	10	Protectionist
2013	Fawkner	6	Ethiopia	7	Super Cool	9	Fiorente
2012	Precedence	9	Niwot	15	Lights Of Heaven	16	Green Moon
2011	Niwot	8	Precedence	11	The Verminator	13	Dunaden
2010	Maluckyday	2	So You Think	3	Zipping	4	Americain
2009	Shocking	1	Master O'Reilly	4	Alcopop	6	Shocking
2008	Viewed	1	Master O'Reilly	4	Moatize	6	Viewed
2007	Efficient	1	Zipping	4	Dolphin Jo	5	Efficient
2006	Maybe Better	3	Zipping	4	Mahtoum	6	Delta Blues
2005	Makybe Diva	1	On A Jeune	2	Leica Falcon	4	Makybe Diva
2004	Makybe Diva	1	Zazzman	3	Elvestroem	4	Makybe Diva
2003	Makybe Diva	1	She's Archie	2	Pentastic	4	Makybe Diva
2002	Mr Prudent	2	Pentastic	5	Rain Gauge	8	Media Puzzle
2001	Rain Gauge	6	Sky Heights	8	Reenact	9	Ethereal
2000	Yippyio	2	Freemason	6	Celestial Show	7	Brew
1999	Rogan Josh	1	Lahar (DH)	3	Zazabelle (DH)	3	Rogan Josh	(DH 3rd)
1998	Tie The Knot	6	Skybeau	8	Perpetual Check	9	Jezabeel
1997	Might And Power	1	Markham	3	Linesman	5	Might And Power
1996	Saintly	1	Skybeau	3	Nothin' Leica Dane	5	Saintly
1995	Nothin' Leica Dane	2	Coachwood	5	Beaux Art	6	Doreimus
1994	Paris Lane	2	Alcove	5	Grass Valley	8	Jeune
1993	Frontier Boy	5	Tennessee Jack	6	Our Pompeii	14	Vintage Crop
1992	Subzero	1	Star Of The Realm	7	London Bridge	9	Subzero

PoisonPen7 · « 2018-Oct-21, 02:26 PM **Reply #99** »

Bump.

At this stage, in the top 24 from the ballot order, we have:

~~- Humidor~~ Not an Aussie.
- Ace High
- Youngstar
- Egg Tart
~~- Big Duke~~ Not an Aussie.

then a long way down to Miss Admiration at 38th. Who Shot Thebarman has raced in Australia since 2014 and most would consider him an Aussie but not here. He is 9th on the order.

Would be surprised if Humidor started. And probably Ace High as well after his weak effort yesterday.