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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-22, 06:17 PM
It'll be a long walk for me down memory lane ...........there's a lot I've forgotten and somethings I wish I could forget. :whistle:

So this is the start.........and like any story it'll start from the beginning ........that is when I get there. :beer:

Keep a look out..........coming to your PC, sooner rather than later.  :lol:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: shaun on 2011-Jan-22, 06:22 PM
sound's like as usual you have you hand on it. :nowink:
i thought you had got used to the fact no-one cares what you post.  :lol:
then again...i'm doing it. :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:  :lol:   :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-Jan-22, 06:44 PM
I for one look forward to your blog mate  :yes:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: shaun on 2011-Jan-22, 06:47 PM
I for one look forward to your blog mate  :yes:

of course you would...he is a Qld right winger...  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: MagiC~* on 2011-Jan-22, 06:49 PM
 :chin:

I used to play fullback, and sometimes played on the left wing, and also as hooker  :/
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: shaun on 2011-Jan-22, 06:50 PM
:chin:

I used to play fullback, and sometimes played on the left wing, and also as hooker  :/

  :lol:   :lol:  :clap2: :clap2: 8-) 8-)
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2011-Jan-22, 06:56 PM
Looking forward to it, Arsey. I don't mind reading fiction
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-22, 07:23 PM
As Jeff Fenech said........I luv yuz all  :thankyou: for looking :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2011-Jan-22, 07:43 PM
I for one look forward to your blog mate  :yes:

Is that any wonder?

Just think of that forum capacity freed up by all those

"Man bites dog" stories safely filed in one thread.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-23, 09:26 AM
Down Memory Lane.

Telling a story should start at the beginning, but my story  began so long ago, 1936, there's too much ground to cover so I'll leave most of it out and stick to the more tellable, a much abbreviated version.

Some things I remember clearly, but more has been forgotten than remembered.

 My memory today isn't as good as it was, and it won't get any better at my age. I do know the name of the nurse who delivered me, when the stork arrived all those years ago, Nurse Prudence.

My mother said it was such a momentous event for us that a public holiday was declared, the day after, April 25th..........If only.

I was an only child for quite a while until my brother was born in 1944.

 Nurse Prudence had a maternity hospital on the corner of Granville and Boundary Streets, West End. Seeing it on Google Earth doesn’t bring back any memories apart from some sentimental nostalgia. The building is in fine shape today and is now the HQ for a community organisation.

West End

Both my parents lived with their own families in West End before they married in St Francis Church, Dornoch Terrace .My mother was only 21, my father quite a few years older.Mum was born in Sydney, and they lived at Randwick and were horsey people. Her father was a saddler and her grandfather a jockey, Billy English, rode Arsenal to victory in the Melbourne Cup 1886, he was killed in a race fall some years later.

My father, originally from Toowoomba, lived  in Loch St. when they first met.

 Mum had one brother and 3 sisters, one sister is still around living in Sydney, she was 95 a few days ago.

Dad came from a larger family, he had 4 brothers and 2 sisters all of them departed.

Their first matrimonial home was a rented house in Egbert St, a small dead end street off Victoria St, parallel with Hardgrave Rd, one of the main roads in the suburb.I remember mum complaining to the landlord about the stove recess in the kitchen, the miserable old bugger’s solution was to tell her to plant a tree as protection from the cold and wind.

Our neighbours were a Chinese family on one side and an older couple on the other.
He was a greyhound trainer and his wife a very genteel lady; they had one son a few years older than me.

Len, the son in the other family, and I went to St James’s in the Valley together. Len’s father was a Chef and was involved in the Chinese Joss house near Albion Park. As an adult we would often bump into each other at the Creek in the good old days and exchange info.

Childhood days

In the vacant block next door, but one, in Egbert St was a stable and shed where the local delivery man kept his horse and cart. In those days lots of horses were used pulling carts, mainly draught horses, used by carriers, garbage and nightsoil collectors, milkos and clothes prop men.

I remember a clothes prop man’s horse bolting with his cart down Hardgrave Rd one day  slipping and sliding with its steel shoes ringing out on the bitumen and tram  lines, racing downhill towards the intersection near the state school, scattering housewives and frightening the  shit out of us onlookers with the clothes prop man in hot pursuit.

Bryce’s were a large carrying company then and kept their horses down off Montague Rd in a paddock, the ostler was an old man who used to get drunk every Saturday and stand on the corner of Harriet St giving a speech. We never knew what he was on about but he used to scare mum and me and we would peek through a slit in the slats in the front porch so he couldn’t see us watching. Hoping he would piss off home and stop bothering everyone. I don’t remember anyone ever calling the cops possibly because most didn’t have a home telephone.

The first time I rode a horse was when I was a little kid on holidays at Kirra. There was a team of ponies agisted next to where we stayed and the owner would saddle them up and go to the beach each day for hire. I’d pestered my mother to let me have a go; she was hesitant as I had never ridden before. I would have been very young; finally she relented and paid over a shilling or so. She thought the guy would lead me on his pony but that didn’t happen .

When he legged me up he said “can you ride?” with the roar of the surf drowning out his question I thought he said “Do you want a ride?’
“Yes “..... I said and with that he  hit the pony on the arse and it took off up the beach at top speed with me hanging on to the pommel  for dear life .Seeing this, the guy chased and caught this Phar Lap of the beach and rescued me to mummy’s welcoming arms. He   gave me a decent serve for letting him think I could ride.

Eventually I did learn to ride, as a teenager a group of us would ride our bikes on Sundays from West End to Kalinga to a riding school run by the Railtons.My favourite, when I could get him, was a pony Black Tommy, a very nippy little guy who could beat most of my mate's mounts if he put his mind to it. Mostly we rode through dirt roads and bush tracks and only raced each other when we had decent ground to go on.

One day we were riding in single file past Lutwyche Cemetery and there was a tram/bus shelter we had to pass through. There was  only one  couple, a young bloke,  at a guess 25 or so,  and his girlfriend, waiting for a tram  and the youngest of us, who liked to show off in front of girls, flicked his horse on the rump knowing it would give a half hearted pig root which it did. The bloke, without a word to the girl, jumped up on the seat out of harm’s way leaving his girlfriend stranded. At the time we thought it very funny seeing his reaction but it was a stupid thing to do. I reckon the girlfriend might have given him the flick after that.

That's it for today.................more to come................much more. :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Wenona on 2011-Jan-23, 09:56 AM
Bought our first family home in 1997 at 6 Egbert St and had two kids there myself.  

From your description if that vacant block is the same vacant block still in the street I'd guess you might have been at No7?

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-23, 06:25 PM
Bought our first family home in 1997 at 6 Egbert St and had two kids there myself.  

From your description if that vacant block is the same vacant block still in the street I'd guess you might have been at No7?



Could be Wenona...can't remember the number but still could recognize the house.It was on the right hand side going down from Victoria St.I'll have a look next time I'm over that way. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-24, 12:23 PM
This is the second instalment........I'm still in short pants  :lol:

Going to the dogs

While living at Egbert St the greyhound trainer would sometimes take a mate and me to the dogs with him.
He had an Oldsmobile; I think it was, bit like the Model T, dark reddish/brown body  with black mudguards and a black vinyl top.
We would hold the dogs so they didn't jump out, if they saw a cat you had to hold on tight.

 I never knew the theory but sometimes before putting the dogs in the car they would throw up.
 I never asked and assume he had given them some mixture to “clean them out”. 
In later years I read of horse trainers sometimes giving their horses paste balls which used to be advertised as Winns or something I think.

He had about 3 or 4 dogs at any one time and every day without fail he would walk them down Victoria St, to Montague Rd, around Davies Park and back.
We went with him to the greyhounds at Rocklea, a bit further out than the trots, it was a straight course with live hare chased by a bloke on a piebald horse, and the hare had an escape hole at the end.
Once I saw the hare turn turtle, running back when the dogs almost caught it and the race was called off. There was a swamp next to the track full of leeches.
This was a very basic set up nothing as grand as Rocklea trots eventually became.

The other  dog track I remember  going to was  at Kedron, a former pony  track opposite the Kedron Park Hotel,  there’s a QUT there now I think,  it used to be called  Teachers’ Training College.
It was more like a real race track, nice green grass with trees and gardens well cared for.
One day his wife came to see one of their dogs race, Black Corinne was its name and he thought it a good thing and put his money on.
Unfortunately it was nosed out by a dog called Real Artist which interfered with it.
 He was filthy and if his wife hadn’t been there as a calming influence I reckon he would have decked the other trainer as he was a big, strong, fiery old guy.

One dog I saw race and win that day was Archie’s Wonder a big white dog, very good it was, owned by an old time fighter Archie Bradley who came from Gympie I think.
 On another day someone knocked off his price and I overheard him telling someone he could tighten the dog’s collar to fix him up.

I don’t know what his full time job was, greyhounds wouldn’t provide a living in those days but he did lay a concrete path on his own from the front fence to the back door when we moved to Crowther Street, maybe that was his occupation.

Moving House

When finances improved we moved from Egbert to Crowther St just a street away, the house built around 1926 was named “Oonatra” an aboriginal word. I forget what it translates to.
It cost about 850 quid; I’m not sure what year we moved there, sometime in the 1940’s. It was a highset weatherboard, on wooden stumps, red/brown paint with a tin roof and paling fence. A rough stunted looking black wattle tree in the front yard and 2 mango trees in the back. There were 2 bedrooms and a sleep out, a covered porch, kitchen, bathroom, outside toilet and laundry with a rain tank, lounge and dining rooms.
It was facing west towards the Brisbane River and Mt Cootha, high at the front low at the rear.

No garage, we didn’t have a car in common with almost everyone else in the street in those days.
My uncle built a chook house up the back and we were self sufficient primary producers for a short while.
Poultry was a luxury in those days and at Christmas one of my cousins would catch and kill a rooster and mum would pluck it and serve it up for dinner.
 One day at school I won a raffle, the prize 2 bantam roosters, I carried them home in the back of the tram from the Valley. I think we ate them eventually.
 I remember at school when rations were light, swapping sandwiches with Cookie whose family owned a shop out Petrie way, he had sardines, and they were gold in those days.


Dad came from Toowoomba originally and had raced a few horses with limited success.
His colours were pretty basic, purple with a gold sash, but I never saw them or I might have used them myself many years later.
One horse he had which I remember hearing about was Spotted Owl which, after he sacked it, went bush and won a number of country races.
 Hemp was another and I think he had a mare  Lady Bine .
I know a jockey, who later became a successful trainer, rode one for him and when he came back to scale after running down the lane, he queried who told the old man to back it, saying the horse hasn’t had a decent feed and couldn’t possibly have won.
The trainer sheepishly owned up he was broke and couldn’t pay for feed but was too embarrassed to admit it.
It was a race to the feed bin and the trainer beat the horse.

The War

My father enlisted in the Air force during WW ll and was sent to Townsville and other places for some of the time before being transferred back home.
Mum stayed at home, terrified of the blackouts and no street lighting.
 We often stayed with my grandma in Granville St as mum didn’t like us living alone all the time with the war on.
Grandma and my aunt and uncle were relocated to a housing camp in New Farm Park at one stage before building their own home in Oxley Rd.Graceville close to the Graceville Oval.
There were a few other housing camps as I remember Ekibin and Victoria Park was a couple of them.

 I went to school at the Convent in West End as normal, decked out with a khaki hanky to put over my head and a rubber bit for my mouth, if caught in an air raid.
There were air raid shelters everywhere and we had practiced what to do if the Japs bombed us.
 There were trenches dug and sandbags in the playground if the worst happened.
One day during a trial run, the air raid siren went, one old lady was coming down our street and in her fright she fainted and neighbours had to rescue and revive her.

As it turned out, Brisbane although prepared, never suffered any attack.
The closest it came  was when the Aussies and the Yanks  soldiers had a pitched battle in the City.
Negro servicemen weren’t allowed over the Victoria Bridge and were restricted to south of the river.
One of our neighbours in Crowther St. worked in a Bank and he was always bringing home yanks, that were very grateful for some home cooking.
They didn’t come empty handed either, bringing gifts which were not generally available to locals.

Thats it for now. :beer:
 

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: usernametaken on 2011-Jan-24, 08:11 PM
Keep it coming A.
I love these sort of reads.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2011-Jan-24, 08:21 PM
Good read Arsey and keep it up.

I am surprised however that you cant remember the number of your first house but you can remember the name of the dogs that ran the quinella in a Kedron maiden.

The things we remember !
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-25, 09:05 AM
Growing Up

My brother was born in 1944; there are only the two of us. He was a lot different to me, even as a kid, he was very academic, loved school and study and went to Uni.
Until he retired recently he worked as a Professor of Sociology at Gippsland Campus of Monash University

He has written a few published books, one on animal rights that I know of and he caused a big stir once when he did a paper on exploitation of teenagers in the fast food industry.
On the other hand I hated school and left as soon as I was allowed.

I was Ok at maths and bookkeeping but wasn’t keen on chemistry, physics or Latin and French.
 I finished secondary school at St.Laurences’ College but did some further study at night  at what was  the old Trocadero  Dance Hall in Sth.Brisbane  , when working in the MRD to improve my job prospects.

I wouldn’t do it any differently today, although one thing I would change if I had the chance and could turn back the clock, would be smoking.

I wish I never started smoking. Growing up at 16 or so, we would buy cigarettes to smoke at the flicks Friday and Saturday nights without our parents knowing. I would hide the packet in the roots of a big tree under the fence of a yard on the corner on the way home.
We used to buy anything we could get. Australian cigs were rationed and kept under the shop counter. Craven A, Ardath etc were the tops and those on the shelf were Martins, Players and some other inferior English brands.

Going into Poppa Douros’s shop and asking for a packet of fags you would hit the jackpot if nobody else was around.
Poppa would check out that no one was watching, then he’d put his hand under the counter and slip you an Aussie brand one of those mentioned or Capstan or Three threes at the worst.
I gave up smoking after I had a heart attack in 1985.
I was in St.Vincent’s  Sydney  in intensive care  for 10 days and  haven’t touched a fag since.

As a kid I had a few bikes, the first was a Christmas  present it was a ¾ Malvern Star roadster  red and khaki  frame, big fat tyres, with a  foot brake and mudguards.
Len my mate got a Preston Star, yellow and black; there were limited colours due to the war.
The bikes in those days were all made in Australia. Malvern Star, Special, Speedwell, Ashby, Hoffy, Local.....were well known brands with bike shops in every suburb.
Now most are  made in China and are imported from overseas.

I took up bike racing when I was 13 or 14 joining the Brisbane Juvenile Amateur Cycling Club.
 It was run by Bill Tindall who lived in Harriet St. and whose son Grantley, (Darb) Bill called him, was a gun rider.[attachimg=#]

Bill sold Perkins Soft drinks door to door and on Saturdays we would all pile onto the back of his truck with a few cases of cold drinks and our bikes, either to a track, Balmoral, Kelvin Grove or Bundamba in summer, or out to Nudgee Rd or Grassdale in winter for the road races.

My first racer was a semi racer bought from Bob Todd’s Local Cycles near the Blue Moon Skating Rink south of the river near the Victoria Bridge. It was gold with some decorative markings and I used it until I could afford a better one.
Mum made me a set of colours green with a gold sash and gold piping on the sleeves.
The BJACC colours we used in club events were white with a red poinsettia badge on the breast.

While I wasn’t a Group 1 rider I did manage to win the 8 mile Club Championship under 15  on the Nudgee course in July 1950 and still have the winner’s blue and gold sash as a memento.
First time out on the Kelvin Grove velodrome I led all the way but was fined 5 bob by the referee for looking around.
This was very highly banked bitumen and metal track, very bloody scary, not like the flatter Balmoral we were used to.
One day a rider, Alan Bunn, lost control when the strut and handlebars came out in his hands on the top corner and he crashed into the bamboo safety rail .
He wasn’t seriously injured in the accident. If that happened today it’s likely someone would sue.

That day at Kelvin Grove was my first use of singles on my bike.I remember they were very expensive, five quid they cost.
It was the first real racer I had, specially built by Bernie McGrory who owned Aussie Cycles in Boundary St. West End.
It was made to measure, iridescent darkish blue with contrasting hand painted panels with my name engraved and flowery artistic lines.
Bernie was a racegoer and he was fitting my singles before going to the races that day and was having a bugger of a job getting the bostick right.
He was cursing and swearing while I was ready to cry in case he buggered up the job.
It all ended well, he got to the races and I got to Kelvin Grove, we were both winners.

We used to ride our bikes 50 miles or so down the coast some Sundays and hitch a ride home on the back of a truck if we found  an obliging truck driver.
We never had an accident although some of the truck drivers drove like maniacs, foot to the floor all the way, which we thought was great fun passing all the cars and poking fun at them.

Coming home one day from Nudgee after our usual Club handicap there was a dead horse lying spreadeagled on the ground outside Doomben ,probably waiting to be collected by the dogger.It was the first real deadun I ‘ve seen.

My first job

When I left school I got a job as messenger boy with J.D.Garland a local carrier in Jane St. opposite the old Davies Park baths.
J.D was a dashing figure, tall and handsome with a toothbrush moustache and slicked hair.
He wore custom suits with flash ties, two tone shoes sometimes, and drove a big American Hudson sedan.
He could pass for a Hollywood star.
Mrs. Garland, a very stylish woman, was very nice to me, they both were.
 They were very social, no kids that I knew of and they were well up in the Australia/American Society, always entertaining.
They lived at St.Lucia across the river from the yard at West End.

Soon after starting there Mr.Garland merged with a Melbourne transport carrier named Collier, forming Collier Garland Co.
This allowed them to expand the existing carrying business into interstate transport with semi trailers.
Locally they had contracts with Olympic Tyres at Geebung which was a big client.
My job, on the bottom rung of the ladder, meant going into the city and delivering and receiving documents to and from shipping & customs agents and running other messages.
I listened to Delta’s Melb Cup in the Customs House the year it won.
Had I stayed with CG I may have learned the ropes as a customs agent and had a ride on the gravy train that those in that exclusive occupation enjoy.

I used to ride my bike on company business and to the tram stop on Boundary St.
JD very generously paid for my tyres and tubes.
One day, one of the office guys, Doug Graham- Clarke, borrowed my bike to go to the pub at lunch time.
Until he was half way there he didn’t realise it was a track bike with no brakes and a fixed wheel.
He nearly killed himself, so he said, coming back freewheeling down the hill on Jane St. with no brakes.
And that would have cost him a new bike for me.

 The transport manager was a guy named Pat, he was always on the go, the most energetic man I’ve ever seen to that point, he ran the place, and it would have stopped without him.
 His secretary was a Miss Taylor who admired him greatly.
 I think she was secretly in love, but Pat wouldn’t have noticed, he was so wrapped up in his job and was probably happily married.

 I got on well with everyone and was eventually promoted to junior office boy with a pay rise.
 I recommended a local kid for my old job and he took over the messages while I did some office work.
 I was under strict instructions not to let him know how much I was paid.
 I think it was a bit more than 3 quid a week.
 In those days nobody knew what the next person earned unless you had a sneaky look at the discarded pay envelope left in the wpb.

Although too young for a driver’s license I learned to drive on some of JD’s Vanguard Utes.
With the tacit approval of obliging truckies, I would take one for a spin around the back streets.
Once I stalled on the tram line at the intersection on Hardgrave Rd.
That put the wind up me, big time, but I managed to get out of the way of the oncoming tram and got back to the yard with the Vanguard intact.

My boss in the shipping dept was a tosser, a real  :censored:  , he was  up himself, walking around  posing with his silly bloody pipe.
It was rumoured he made some stupid or insulting comment at a party to a Dutchman or some sailor and was decked.
The story goes he fell off the wharf into the river where a ship was moored.
He was very sheepish when he came to work with a black eye.
He left after a while and was replaced by another poor bugger who was going so bad he wore an old Air Force uniform to work.

I got the message, that was it for me and I left for greener pastures.

Back with more ...................tomorrow :beer:

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: westie on 2011-Jan-25, 11:13 AM
Arsenal
Very entertaining read.  Some of the places bring back memories Davies Park baths (I competed there as a kid) do they still exist and Balmoral when to High School there.  Lokking foward to the next post.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-25, 07:23 PM
No Westie.......the Baths went long ago.

There's a boatshed where it was and the river road is blocked to cars at Jane st now but is open to bikes and walkers.

Open  to traffic past Davies Park along to the Orleigh and St lucia Ferry.

Thanks for visiting. :beer:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Tauto on 2011-Jan-26, 03:35 AM
Quality stuff !!!

Keep it coming, im waiting for the R rated scene !
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: triple7 on 2011-Jan-26, 07:14 AM
Agree, enjoyable reading Arsenal.   emthup
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-26, 08:26 AM
Teenage years

During my teenage years a few of us would go down  the Coast by train each weekend, none of us had a car and we would stay at a guesthouse, very basic , bed but no breakfast , on Coolangatta hill.
We had a good time, plenty of surf, underage drinking not a problem then,SP betting at Tweed Heads in a billiard saloon, open slather, prices on  blackboards,  Danceland , picking up  girls, none of which lasted more than a couple of weeks. No fights or violence, no drugs, just a lot harmless fun, without a care in the world.

Playing poker was a pastime my mates and I got into as soon as we had some money to spend, we favoured blind poker 2 bob minimum, or sometimes Pontoon or 21.We played at weekends, staying most of the night until early morning, winners wanting to knock off early but losers always wanting once more around the table.
 
Mostly we played under a house in Montague Rd owned by the family of one of the mates.
His old man was a bookie in the Flat and he went to the races by tram carrying his bag and books up Victoria St.to the tramstop.
I never saw him in action as I started at the races in the Leger one rung up from the Flat but one down from the Paddock and a lot cheaper.

Back in Crowther St.my parents had a regular poker school, mum would provide supper, all homemade ,
cakes,scones,sandwiches,tea etc,and there was always a bit of cake left when I came home late.
 
We always had the good fortune to have good neighbours wherever we lived.
Vince and Gloria was a couple without children who lived two doors up.
They were great friends, with lots of common interests.
Vince was a part time bookies clerk and when I was older and still living at home we would all go to the races each Saturday in Vince’s Holden.
Vince used to call himself The Black Panther .
He wasn’t black, he was as Aussie as anyone but had a darker complexion being from Lebanese parents.

National Service

When I was 18 I was called up for National Service and was sent to Wacol in the Ordinance Corp.
Not everyone had to do NS there were so many of us available that the medicos didn’t need to pass everyone.
One of Mum’s friends husband was a doctor and he would knock back some with pimples if there were too many called up.
I could have got out of it had I wanted to but in a strange way was looking forward to the experience.

It wasn’t all it was cracked out to be, as I soon discovered.
We lived in tents in the middle of winter with the flaps open and I was so bloody tired and exhausted after marching up and down all day.
I woke up one night with the rain pouring in, the floor mats floating and we all had to get out and unfurl the flaps and get back into the cot with wet pyjamas.

We learned drills, how to fire a 303, read maps and lots of other stuff and march march march.
The NCO we had was a nasty  prick of a bloke, everybody hated him but the higher ranks were OK.
I was on guard duty one night keeping the nonexistent enemy at bay, calling “Who goes there “at every opportunity  with my finger on the trigger, but no spies or enemies were found.
Another time on guard duty we forgot about the boilers and had cold showers in the morning....that didn’t go down too well.

I was in Yeronga military hospital for a while undergoing tests to find out what was wrong with me and eventually I was discharged medically unfit.
I was very glad to get out even though I met a lot of nice guys .
There were a couple of jockeys in my intake and one was in hospital with me.
He wanted to get out too and get back to the horses so he could get hay fever and follow me to freedom.

Wheels

Some of the boys I grew up with went into motor bikes but I never did.
 I saved my money to bet with and didn’t want to waste it buying a bike.

I would have been about 20 something when I bought my first car.
It was a second hand Singer, two doors 4 seater with a canvas top, a convertible.
I bought it on HP from Worths’Car Sales Lutwyche for about 200 quid I think.
It was a bomb, my girlfriend, who I’m now married to, had to hang on to the gear stick to stop it jumping out of gear, the wipers didn’t work and I was always putting stuff in the radiator in a vain attempt to stop it over heating.
There were no road worthy’s then, it would never have passed; even the guy selling it said he really wished I had bought a better car.

Finally I got rid of it and bought a decent car, an FJ Holden two tone blue with a grey marbled steering wheel, red centre piece  and chromed circle horn.
It was an ex cab from Sydney although I didn’t know that when I bought it.
It was a fantastic car.

I was paying it off on HP so my father helped by taking a car load of blokes to the mid week races at a pound a head.
A fiver came in very handy and petrol was cheap, no more than 3/6 a gallon .
They would get picked up on Wednesdays in Melbourne St in South Brisbane opposite the Terminus Hotel and drive off to Gatton, Oxenford, Beaudesert, Esk or wherever the meeting was.

There were no radio calls of mid week meetings except for Gatton, when on a good radio, you could pick up 4AK Darling Downs, a Toowoomba station which did Gatton.
I only had a bet if any of the horses I followed raced.
Two of my specials were Tiny Denis and Graceful Turn trained by Harry Lee in Tufnell Rd. Nudgee.

In those days the provincial race books had photo finish pictures from  the previous week.
Herb Joseph who lived on Dornoch Terrace and raced a couple of good horses was the innovator of this aid to punters.
Strange that something as helpful as that was available then but not now.

Hianthus, the iron horse he was called, was another I always followed.
Trained by Bill Krafft at Beaudesert, he was a prolific provincial winner before he graduated to City class winning open company and was placed in a Stradbroke.
He was my favourite.
In later years when I got involved in trotting I came to know one of Bill Krafft’s sons, a trotting driver, after he became too heavy for a jockey.

My father was a bookies clerk, and when I was old enough he got me a clerk’s job during the Winter Carnival working for Frank O’Neill a Toowoomba bookie.
After getting married I worked as a bookies clerk at the Ipswich trots for a short time to supplement my paltry pay but gave it away when I got a better job.

More to come.......Thanks for reading....appreciate your comments :thumbsup:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: richo on 2011-Jan-26, 10:22 AM
gees arsy you havn't got old timers, well done
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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2011-Jan-26, 10:33 AM
Why not cut to the chase and let us know how you learnt to copy and paste a dozen articles a day on a forum?
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Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2011-Jan-26, 10:43 AM
Why not cut to the chase and let us know how you learnt to copy and paste a dozen articles a day on a forum?

That's in the third book, "Arsey's Bucket List"
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-26, 10:30 PM
gees arsy you havn't got old timers, well done
Not yet Richo  :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-27, 08:34 AM
Getting a Better Job

After leaving Collier Garland I had a few dead end jobs before joining the public service.
I was appointed to the MRD in Albert St which was the luckiest break I’ve ever had.
It was where I met my darling wife and we’re still together having raised a wonderful family of two boys three girls and now 13 grandkids.

Arriving that first day I was taken to meet the Secretary, Leo. J. Feenaghty, a really dapper fellow whose name was  well known, as his signature was on all vehicle registration papers.
That sort of introduction to the boss doesn’t happen these days, you’re just a number in the public service and most wouldn’t recognize the boss if they fell over him.
In those days all inductees had to produce a Birth certificate, produce evidence of joining a Union within 14 or 28 days and I think I had to undergo a medical with the Government MO
 
My first job was in the Plate Section which issued Alpha- Numero number plates replacing the old single Q style ones.
It was a small section, a clerk in charge, two girls, Monica and Denise and me.

It was here that I was to meet a man, my next boss, who became a great racing mate.
He was an ex POW captured by the Japs and locked up in Changi prison in Singapore.
 T.K. (Kevin) Skehan he was named but his war time nick was “Killer” he was a stretcher bearer in the POW camp and it was said if you had the bad luck to get sick or injured and he looked after you that was it ......in most cases.

He was quite a few years older than me and lived in Grey St. South Brisbane in a boarding house owned by his widowed mother.
The Museum is on the site these days.
When his father was alive they had hotels and he knew lots of guys in the hotel game.
On Saturdays before I got married I would pick him up in my car and go to the races at Doomben or Eagle Farm.

He was a lucky punter and was never short of money.
He would go for months without opening his pay envelopes.
One Exhibition Wednesday at EF with only one race to go interstate, I had done my dough and asked Kev if he had a bet.
He said he was on Sweet Fred at 8/1 so I borrowed a fiver from him and had 40/5.
When I asked him why he backed it I remember him saying he had never heard of it but by then I was already on.
Anyway it bolted in trained by Arthur Smerdon. It turned out a good horse to follow for us both.

I wasn’t always so lucky.
I was working at Peters Ice Cream after leaving Collier Garland and was due to work on the Australia Day Monday.
My cousin from Toowoomba had a tip for a horse that had been set for a race at EF that day.
They were very confident as it had been raining and this horse Mr. Gay loved the wet.
So I took the day off and went to the races with a five pound note in my kick to back this good thing Mr.Gay.

It was in the last race and I waited all day in the Leger for it without having another bet.
By then it had fined up to a nice sunny day and I started to doubt whether the track was wet enough for him.
Stupidly I asked a punter I didn’t know from Adam what he thought about the track...Nah its good he said.....look at the blue sky.

So instead of backing Mr.Gay,I could have got 33/1,I talked myself out of it and put my  fiver on the favourite Self Defence 7/2  which looked  home and hosed until Mr.Gay  comes flying home to get up and beat it.
What a rotten day that was,should have gone to work and given my cousin the fiver to put on.
The winner  was by Mr.Standfast  out of Wilma Gay, I remember it vividly his pink and black checks  flashing home.
 
My next job in the MRD was in the Correspondence section, writing letters all day, chasing late payers and sending those pink slips threatening prosecution if they didn’t cough up.
As jobs go it was interesting enough but I missed some of my previous outdoor perks like driving the Ute, picking up plates from the Store and a little bit of freedom that went with it.
Also driving the boss around town when it was required got me out of the office.

I was approached by a very refined  middle aged lady from Accounts who knew I was a keen punter.
Olive was her name; she asked if I could put some bets on for her.
That wasn’t a problem as I could put them on SP which was easier than taking them to the races.
She would come down every Friday afternoon with her bets on a slip of paper and money up front.
She would mostly back the same horses 5 or 10 bob each way, sometimes a pound.
Mostly she lost but there wasn’t much in it.

One day I forgot to put them on with the SP and decided to keep them.
 After I arrived at the races  I pulled out the slip, and saw she hadn’t backed a winner at that stage but had a quid EW on Tudor Hill in the upcoming race the Doncaster.
 It couldn’t win..... I thought and put the slip and her money back in my pocket.
Well, that was that......... up it got at 33/1.
I learned the hard way, being an SP bookie had its drawbacks.

While still in the Plate section  a mate who worked in the department and me had a go at the SP  business  holding  bets from fellow workers and one outside client.
It was only  small but suited us  at the time as we were both battlers trying to get ahead.
I was single but he was married and had a couple of young kids.
He was a very good lightweight  boxer  who  won a Qld title when he turned professional  and  he retired from the ring with his brain intact and in good shape.

We never had any trouble with the locals but one day  the outside client took the knock after a bad day with a lot of big bets, some of which we laid off and had to settle even though he welshed .
My mate went to see him where he worked and things got a bit heated and the Manager of the show got involved and threatened to call the police.
He settled down when my mate got a chance to explain what had happened and he turned around to the welsher and made him promise to pay what he owed ........which he did on time payment over a period.
 
Macdougal’s Cup was the last straw for us in the SP business, it was a blackout, everyone was on it, all the regulars and  even the once a year punters cheered it home,  even the roughie  placegetters were  no help  and were backed .
We stayed back until about 7o’clock that night working out the settling and tallying our losses. That was it.................no more bets.

More tomorrow...... :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-27, 06:17 PM
Working for the Union
 
One of the blokes in my section was a Union delegate and he talked me into taking on a role as a representative of the Bundaberg Branch of the Union.
This required attending monthly Council meetings and keeping in touch with the Bundaberg members and raising their concerns with the Union.
I learned a lot in that role there were a lot of fiery debates about a multitude of issues and some of the delegates liked a drink and didn’t know when to call it a night.

Still plodding away at the MRD which was a good place to work, lots of good people and parties to go to in those days, that’s when I met my future wife.
But little opportunity for advancement .
I was an unclassified clerk earning maybe 15 pounds a week.

When a job in the Union office was advertised, I applied for it and after interviews were conducted it was announced at the December Council  meeting that I had got the job.
I resigned from the public service ready to start my new career in the Union office on 2nd.January 1963.

I’ll never forget that first day, climbing all those stairs in Elizabeth St. to the pokey little office of two small rooms plus the conference room where meetings were held.
The first task was to sort out the Annual accounts for presentation to the AGM.
The system was a mystery to me; Tom Wallace the Industrial officer and I worked back for several nights to finish the job.
Everything was done manually there wasn’t even an adding machine and there were scraps of paper everywhere with Tom’s notes and figures, only he knew what they meant.
Thankfully I soon mastered the task and it all worked out in the end.

Tom vacated the front office when I arrived leaving me his desk and what went with it.
He scooped up all his files and joined the General Secretary in a corner of his office next door and shut the door.
I never saw him much after that he was happy to be away from one of the typistes who was very difficult to get on with.
She eventually left to everyone’s relief.

There were four girls employed, the General Secretary, Industrial officer and me.
We had around 10 thousand members from memory.
There was no payroll deductions for fees which were all collected in the first two months of the year.
It was a hectic time but we managed to get through it pretty well.

A month or so after I started The Public Service Commissioner  asked if the Union was interested in operating the Cafeteria in the basement of the Administration Building on the corner of George & Elizabeth streets to cater for state public servants.
The offer seemed too good to refuse.
There would be no rent, cleaning or maintenance to pay, all we had to do was hire and pay staff and buy all food supplies.
All kitchen facilities cooking crockery cutlery were there to use at no cost.
The offer was accepted and I was given the job of managing it.
Two hours a day I manned the cash register and kept things in order.
The food was cheap, a three course lunch cost less than five bob, there was very good variety, good home cooked food, to suit all tastes.
Mrs Guse was a very good cook.
I would draw up daily/weekly menus with her, order the provisions   and keep the records.
 
The problem was the lunch break was only 45 minutes and everyone came at once around 1pm, few liked early lunch.
This resulted in queues which turned people off.....they didn’t want to wait.
And it was only of benefit to the members in the top end of town .
Those in Anzac Sq and other places were too far away to patronise us.

 If we took 20 or more quid a day it was profitable but after about three months it was time to call it a day and we closed for good.
I wasn’t sorry as I still had my normal work to do when the cafeteria was added.
I didn’t complain as it was good experience and enabled me to meet members I didn’t know before.

The Union had always been well managed; there were a lot of impressive people on the Council and Executive in my time. 
It was a very progressive organisation dedicated to protecting and promoting the interests of its members.
There were no internal conflicts which plagued some other unions or personal political agendas.
We were all pulling in the one direction, disunity is death.

There were  times  when we held  outside meetings in Festival Hall that the International socialists tried to stir up trouble.
They were a rag tag lot of hard line lefties at  every  public demonstration.
Anywhere they got a chance to shout out slogans and run around waving placards, inciting anarchy you could depend on them turning up.
They didn’t bother us but were  often a major embarrassment to the Labor Party on Labor days
 
Strangely there was no superannuation scheme when I joined the staff.
At one AGM soon after I started one of the delegates from the Public Curators Office, Jack Dillon, who used to go through the annual accounts with a fine tooth comb, noticed this and presented a motion that the Executive investigate establishing a scheme for the union staff.
In due course Council approved a scheme with SGIO based on staff contributing 5% and the Union 10% similar to the super scheme in the Public service.
 
The union held a conference for delegates and country members each three years when the city would meet the country and thrash out policy issues.
I used to look forward to these especially early in my career as it gave me the opportunity to watch and learn and to meet more members.
The conference was usually opened by the Governor, we would have a small scale reception for delegates to meet one another and a conference dinner mid week  with  guests and lots of speeches. We toasted anything that moved and representatives of the government and press always attended.

One night Max Jessup the industrial  roundsman from the Telegraph made a speech acknowledging the Union and in the process revealed Joh Bjelke’s private home phone number, Bunya Mtns One, I think he said it was.
Max was a  very  fine  journalist and a terrific guy to have a beer with.
Sadly he passed away well before his time.

 The country delegates knew how to enjoy themselves in their free time and were very good company.
One year some of the country guys found themselves at an illegal casino in the Gabba operated by the same crew that ran the Valley ones   featured in the Fitzgerald Inquiry some years later.
This night there was a raid apparently planned to catch the then Police minister who was believed to be a regular.
While there were plenty of stories floating around nothing arose except the cops   now   had something on the Minister.
Our guys got out scot free and had something to talk about when they got home.

We began rebuilding our property to update the offices and shops at ground level and to utilise the entire site to its full potential.
A top floor was added, the rear section was extended over the whole site.
It took a few months of inconvenience but it was worth it in the end.

The Union established a licensed club in the basement, later we opened a co-operative store and started the Credit Union with funds borrowed from the government but secured by our assets.
We were amongst the founding members of the Union Shopper which saved members paying full price on almost anything you could think of.
We started Public Service Co Operative Housing Societies where members could borrow to buy a home.
I was secretary of the No.9 society for a few years until I moved up the ladder and relinquished the position.

We had some drama with some of our tenants at various times, especially the night club; I’ve forgotten what it was called.
It went   bust   after a spectacular opening   eventually compounding with its creditors.
The space  they vacated was turned over to the credit union which had expanded dramatically from the single staffer with a part time steno when it was born and needed more room.



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Post by: westie on 2011-Jan-27, 08:03 PM
Arsenal
You must have all this in your diaries to remember all.  You mention Max Jessup what era whas that, I started on the Tele in 1964 as a copy boy and if I recall correctly Brian Wakefield was the Editor in Chief (surely old bugger God rest his soul), Frank Atkinson was Chief of Staff, Laurie Whitelock my boss was Pictorial Editor and Pat Lloyd was Police roundsman.  You would have come across Clem Jones and Tom Uren during your years ith the union I guess.   Just loving this blog  8-)
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-28, 06:41 AM
Arsenal
You must have all this in your diaries to remember all.  You mention Max Jessup what era whas that, I started on the Tele in 1964 as a copy boy and if I recall correctly Brian Wakefield was the Editor in Chief (surely old bugger God rest his soul), Frank Atkinson was Chief of Staff, Laurie Whitelock my boss was Pictorial Editor and Pat Lloyd was Police roundsman.  You would have come across Clem Jones and Tom Uren during your years ith the union I guess.   Just loving this blog  8-)

Westie, I rember John Wakefield from meet the Press  looked perpetually annoyed.

I didn't know the others you mentioned but have heard of Pat Lloyd.

Reg Leonard was the trump in those days if I remember correctly.

I shoulda kept diairies but didn't, these are things I remember have forgotten a lot but as I write some things come back.

Timeline late sixties maybe. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-28, 09:57 PM
My wife and I celebrated our 50th wedding anniversary today. :no1:

Started with breakfast with 4 of our 5 kids and 1 granddaughter at a very nice suburban restaurant. :clap2:

Finished with a nice dinner at another. :thumbsup: And big family get together Sunday. :beer:

My grandaughter 15 revealed that of 60 kids her age at school only 9 have parents who are still together.  :o

Pretty bloody sad isn't it. :whistle:
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Post by: worldisavampire on 2011-Jan-29, 03:19 AM
What a great story Arsenal. You have made my day. Congratulations on your milestone. A truly amazing effort. :thumbsup:

Both my parents have been married 3 times each, although my mum has been married now for 25 years and has finally found the one. She says her first was at 17 for 6 months when she was trying to rebel. That man unfortunately died in a car accident. Then there was my dad and now my magnificent step dad.

My Dad has been single for 18 years and will die single. But he loves my brother and I and we see him a couple of times a week. Our extended family was away for Christmas so the only people around the xmas table were me, my brother, my mum, her ex husband (my Dad) and her current husband (my step dad). They are all friends so it is strange how things work out.

My brother and I are in our mid thirties and neither of us have been married (although I am currently in a 5 year relationship). People reckon we are both shit scared to tie the knot because of our parents track record. They just might be right   :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-29, 07:40 AM
Thanks Vamps ..... good wishes to you and your family :thumbsup:

One of the old guys at golf has been married 5 times....I don't know what it is he has.......he ain't no oil painting. :rolleyes:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-29, 05:47 PM
Stepping up.......Industrial Relations

We were growing our membership significantly and had more Awards and Industrial Agreements to service so I was promoted to Assistant industrial Officer at a higher classification and allocated several Sections to look after.
Female Officers or the Women’s Section as it was changed to, and Janitor/Groundsmen to start.
 
They met monthly and I attended the meetings, took the minutes, reported to the General Secretary and actioned any issues which arose.
I also dealt with general industrial issues as required, wrote letters, answered telephones, liaised with members and got to know my counterparts in other unions.
I went on the road periodically visiting members in the bush.

When I started in the MRD all those years ago women in public service offices had virtually no prospects for promotion, most were clerk/typists and were forced to resign once they married.
This changed during my time with the union when the government of the day removed that section of the regulations .
Other changes saw equal opportunity provisions introduced putting females on an equal footing with the men.
 
The General  Secretary. Pat Bredhauer, was  very competent  and  an excellent advocate.
I was  very impressed with his ability and  learned a lot from him.
He gave me  many  opportunities.
The  training and experience under his leadership,  as well as a little bit of the old standby.... into the deep end, where you  would either sink or swim, prepared me for what was to come.

In 1965 I was given my first big job, preparing and presenting a claim for  wage increases  for members under PartVI of the Public Service Award-State.
I was very nervous on the day as it was a big claim being heard before a Full Bench of The Industrial Commission, and it was my first time out as an advocate.

Although I had been to the Commission  as an observer on previous occasions  and knew the basics,  it’s a lot different standing at the lectern and arguing a case than just watching someone else do it from the safety  of  the sidelines, like a spectator at a  tennis match.
I was   a maiden competing in open company that first day.

Harry J Harvey was the Chairman, he had come from the Missos (FMWU) and he made me feel at ease, never interrupting or asking any questions that I might not have been able to answer.
I was given a soft run.
When the case was over the Commissioners reserved decision and retired to their chambers.
Commissioner Harvey came back into the court and got out his makings and settled in for a little chat with all the  advocates.
This was a common practice of his as I was to find out in later years when appearing before him; he liked company and  after the case was over  he always came out for a chat.
He was very popular with everyone in Industrial relations.
When he died there was standing room only at his funeral service.

The claim was partly successful, all members were awarded increases; I don’t recall the details apart from knowing we didn’t get everything we asked for.
There was nothing unusual about that, as I was to find out many times, it was par for the course.

 If   ever  we  got all we asked for, we  came away thinking  we hadn’t asked for enough.

More to come :beer:
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Post by: Racehorses on 2011-Jan-30, 02:39 AM
Arsenal congratulations to you and your wife  -())=(  ())=( I hope you have many more happy years together  ())=( 

My Mum & Dad were married for 65 years before Dad passed away.

Thanks for the great read  :)
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-30, 08:02 AM
Thanks RH   :thumbsup:

65 years I don't think I'll be around in 15 yrs  :whistle:

But you never can tell :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Norton on 2011-Jan-30, 08:12 AM
Enjoying this Arsenal.  

We have a lot in common with some of that history.  My brother worked his whole life in MRD, and my Dad, who you should remember, was solidly involved in the Union.  I was also a member of the Union my whole working life and a delegate for many years (that will shock some of the Labor boys in this forum who think I am a conservative).  Even had lunch this week with my AWU mates, and am taking some to the races in a couple of weeks.  Our family was close with (the late) Ted Clarke's.  We still see his kids occasionally. Ted, you would also have known, was an Industrial Commissioner and was my proposer for membership of the Queensland Turf Club back in 1969.  

Jack Copely and Vince Gair were regular guests at our place.  Ah the good old days.

One of your colleagues (DB), a long time Union treasurer is still a regular racegoer and is my daughter's godparent, although after his long and unsuccessful career on the punt, we don't hold high hopes of a dividend there LOL.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Norton on 2011-Jan-30, 08:23 AM
And you mentioned Reg Leonard.  These days Reg occupies the plot about two rows up from my mum & dad at the Pinnaro Lawn Cemetary out at Albany Creek.   Also in that row are Raphael Cilento and his missus who was the vitamins guru for the Courier Mail for 50 years.   The pair of them set up public health centres for tropical medicine in Qld which served to nurture the first 20 years of my own career.  I often stop and reflect when I visit.  Great society levellers are cemetaries!!
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Post by: usernametaken on 2011-Jan-30, 09:21 AM
Nearly as good a leveler as a racecourse Norton.

Keep up the good stuff Arsenal, am thoroughly enjoying the read.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-30, 09:43 AM
I knew your dad quite well Norton a great guy he was  :noteworthy:

Ted Clarke was a gentleman,was Industrial registrar before appointed as a Commissioner. :thumbsup:

I met Jack Copely only once and that was years ago,when he came in and gave the union some photos of  historical importance .

Jack was on the Executive,maybe even President, in the old days before even I was born.

He was victimised by the Moore government for standing up and being counted and was transferred to the bush as punishment.

They wouldn't get away with that in later years.

And last but not least dear old Don he was a great mate a real treasure  :no1:

Hope he is well..he'll never run out of money. :)


Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-30, 03:43 PM
Learning the Ropes

The union had coverage for Prison Officers, they had their own award which was our biggest award after the Public Service Award-State and I was allocated the Prison Officers section to look after when PJB thought I was ready for it.
Originally prison officers had  their own union but for whatever reason it was disbanded and they joined the AWU.
I don’t know what happened between them but they were only accepted by our union from the AWU on the condition that they withdraw their vote of no confidence in the AWU.

I was as green as grass when I began with the PO’s but it was terrific experience and I soon learned the ropes and gained their trust.
Working with them taught me a lot, they probably learned something too, and I like to think we were mutually beneficial for each other.
For the most part they were good, decent people, doing a hazardous job,  most people didn’t want or couldn’t  handle, dealing with  cunning criminals and some dangerous violent offenders.
Working conditions in some prisons were archaic but this improved as new prisons were built or modernised.
Officers were subject to great stress, strict military style discipline, had to pass exams for promotion and advancement was limited.
Often  assaulted  and injured and even killed. 
Bernie Ralph a Trade Instructor was murdered  while on duty at Boggo Rd trying to teach the prisoners some trade skills.
It wasn’t a job for the faint hearted. The perks  were  few, overtime and shift allowances helped to keep the wolf from the door.

To their credit many of the men progressed through the ranks to reach Superintendent level in charge of whatever prison to which they were sent.
I don’t remember any getting to be Comptroller General, although many were qualified, they were denied the opportunity.
Things would have been much better had the government used   officers experienced in penology instead of  appointing  people with  administrative backgrounds to the top post.

The prisons department was a sub department of Justice in those days presided over by Stewie Kerr as Comptroller General, Stewie  was an ex CIB man, he was a big bloke and was as hard as nails. He did have a softer side seldom seen where he went out of his way to help officers who experienced sickness or injury and were down on their luck, but it wasn’t widely known.
He would put the boot into others if he felt they deserved it and there were a couple of officers  the union saved from  getting the boot.

It was a regular thing for the PO section to pass a vote of no confidence in Stewie and at the same time pass a vote of confidence in the Super of Brisbane prison Bob Smith who was a kindly man universally liked by his officers.

While responsible for servicing prison officers I would often call in at Boggo Rd on the way home if there were matters to discuss with the section’s officials.
When entering the prison all visitors must sign the visitors book and state their business.
Stewie always inspected  the visitors book when he visited,  he liked to know who was seeing who. 
When he saw  the few entries of my name in the book he  blew up  proclaiming I was  there stirring up trouble.”He’s   ****** barred “he was reported to have said.

The officers didn’t need any urging from me to stand up for their rights, they were on the grass regularly .
I tried to keep them working without disrupting the system and losing pay but wasn’t always successful.
Although there were lots of stoppages  but they were mostly of short duration and were generally resolved in compulsory conferences in the Industrial Commission or in negotiations with the Minister of the day.

After  Stewie  barred me from the jail  he issued a directive to that effect.
I  reckon I am the only person in  history to have  had the dubious  distinction of being barred from entering Brisbane Prison.
 
The ban didn’t last very long; the union wasn’t going to take this laying down.
I drafted a letter of protest for the General Secretary to sign and sent it off to Les Skinner, Under Secretary for Justice.
Les was a gentleman, held in the highest regard by everyone, and he had no difficulty in reversing Stewie’s stupid decision....
Stewie, although not overjoyed at this set back to his authority took it reasonably well.
 
Stewie and I were never close but to his credit he was always accessible. 
I spoke to him regularly and we managed to get along.
He realised we had a job to do and whilst we stepped on his toes quite often we were doing our best to make the prisons better places to work, even though it was pushing uphill most of the time, as there were no votes in prisons.

I remember this incident as if it were yesterday.
The union had argued a case for wage increases for prison officers and as it happened the decision was handed down on the day of their section meeting.
Les Milverton, President of  the  section  ,had appeared with me in the Commission and we turned up together at the meeting feeling very pleased with ourselves at getting the boys  a pay rise.

Crikey were we in for a shock.
When I announced  the increases a great big guy sitting in the back row jumped up flinging the  Sebel stack- a -by chairs left and right and in full flight demanded that we reject the decision and go on strike for more.
 
Les and I were downcast  but we  quickly recovered and  after a spirited debate managed  to  control the radicals and get them on side.
 
Wiser counsel prevailed and we all went home to think how to do it better next time.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-30, 03:53 PM
I never kept a scrapbook but my mother did......I found this clip from the CM .......don't remember the issue.......but we were out on the grass.

Les Milverton is to my right in the pic.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-30, 09:46 PM
Before I forget, this is about Norton's dad making the mistake of relying on me to bring a minor offender to justice.

 I was fairly new in the union office,on the bottom of the pile,  and greener than  grass.

Norton’s dad who worked in The Dept of Labour & Industry was Deputy Chief Inspector of Factorys & Shops.

The Dept policed week end trading hours which were tightly controlled in those days, 40 or more years ago.
 
Sunday trading was not like today where it’s an open go.
 
The Dept had just lost a case because the summons had been issued by a JP who was employed as a public servant
 
The court held that was a conflict of interest and the case was thrown out.
 
From then on the Dept needed to use a JP from outside the Dept so they approached the General Secretary who agreed to make me available to issue their summonses.

Norton’s dad would come  over with a bundle of summonses and I would sign on the dotted line.
 
One day one of the traders prosecuted for opening his business when he wasn’t supposed to, decided to plead not guilty and the case was set down for hearing in the Industrial Magistrates Court.

I was called to give evidence and was doing ok until the defence solicitor wanted to know  whether  I asked Mr.T   to particularise  details of  the offence ..No..... I said .

Well what did you  discuss was his next question.

I was under oath and had to tell him the truth, we discussed all manner of things, races, football etc.,never  once mentioning  the alleged offence.

That was music to his ears after virtually being down for the count he got off the floor to turn certain defeat into victory.

I had buggered the prosecution case.

I didn’t know it at the time but I was required by Law to satisfy myself that a prosecution was warranted before issuing a summons .

It never occurred to me to ask any questions, I assumed everything was in order and I was merely witnessing documents.

That was the end of that.........the case against the trader was dismissed.

And I learned something new that day. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Jan-30, 09:59 PM
I tell ya, Norton's sire was a tuff poker-player.  I'd wait all night to catch him bluffing.  It cost me, but he knew he was being kept "honest".

BTW, Norton didn't inherit ANY of Jim's gambling skills - or any of his other good points, now I come to think about it more.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jan-31, 07:34 PM
I had never been on a plane before working for the Union and my first experience was when Pat Bredhauer and I went to Adelaide for a conference with other public service unions in 1965.
There I met my interstate counterparts and formed long lasting friendships with a couple of them .
We stayed at the Earl of Busteed Hotel in the City.
On the Saturday morning we went to a vineyard in the Barossa Valley, which wasn’t what I expected.
It was a tin shed and we sampled wine drawn from casks   with what looked like a syringe, we still bought some to take home as it tasted ok.

In the afternoon one of the locals and me tried our luck at the Adelaide races.
I didn’t back a winner until Magic Jim got me out in the last.
Lining up to collect I was surprised that the government had its hands out wanting its share with a winning bets tax.
We backed up after dinner at Wayville trots.
That was another first for me; night trotting hadn’t started in Brisbane then.

Adelaide had 6 o’clock closing and the only way to get a drink was in the Committee room at the trots or room service at your hotel.
On the other hand Adelaide had a pretty good smorgasbord which I had never seen before as Brisbane hadn’t yet discovered this new form of dining.

The union had been agitating for a Public Service Board to replace the Public Service Commissioner’s Dept and we finally succeeded in 1969 .
Pat Bredhauer was appointed as one of the three Commissioners led by Sir David Longland as Chairman.
This created a vacancy for General Secretary which was advertised and eventually filled by the appointment of Tom Wallace and In due course his position was advertised and I was appointed Assistant General Secretary.

At this stage our membership had  increased significantly and we needed more  industrial staff  which we recruited  from  amongst our members or delegates.
This way we got mostly  young energetic people, who could be trained and developed the way the union wanted.
We steered clear of any rejects from other unions, which was very astute as future events revealed.

There was one night of drama at an AGM which I’ll not forget although I don’t remember what year it was.
During the annual election of the Executive, the lights went out in the middle of the ballot.
While Tom the Returning officer went looking for the problem I herded the delegates downstairs where it was still light and under great difficulty finalised the count and arrived at a result.

 One of the existing executive had been defeated and it transpired that he had been left off the ticket.
He exercised his rights to appeal the result to the Industrial Registrar Alec Marshall, a very honest and upright man, later appointed to the Industrial Commission.
His appeal relied on the interference caused by the blackout, couldn’t be sustained and the election stood.

The union always had good access to politicians of all persuasions and we would lobby them regularly, seeking improvements in conditions, many benefits were negotiated this way .
The exception was when we sought pay increases, we had to fight hard for our members in the Industrial Commission often with fierce opposition from the government.
They didn’t want to be seen giving taxpayers money away too easily.
We did manage to negotiate increases for some sections once a precedent had been set, comparative wage justice it was called.
 
It’s a good job the politicians we dealt with weren’t superstitious after what happened to Jack Pizzey.
The Premier had met Pat and Tom earlier on that fateful day and it was the last thing Jack Pizzey ever did.
Sadly he died unexpectedly during the night.
 
One issue that we had been pushing for ages was to get an extra week’s leave for our members in the west.
Towns like Alpha, Barcaldine, Blackall, Charleville, Cunnamulla, Longreach and Quilpie, although more remote and disadvantaged than those on or near the coast, missed out on the extra week  that  officers to  the north of St Laurence received.
I was drafting the submissions and the members were lobbying the local pollies.
Bill Glasson the CP member for Gregory stepped up to the mark and supported our previously unsuccessful representations to the Premier, Joh Bjelke-Petersen. 
Mr.Glasson  had met with members led by the Clerk of the Court in Longreach and drew the Premier’s attention to being confronted by all the public servants in the electorate expressing their strongest disapproval of the Premier’s refusal to grant this reasonable request.

Bill Glasson’s support won the day.
We heard  that when he spoke to Joh he pointed out that Ed Casey  the ALP leader ( and member for Mackay I think) had it for his public servants while his, Bill’s were missing out.
That was good enough for Joh.......request granted retrospective 12 months.
 
There was only one hiccup to what was a great achievement.
I had overlooked Aramac and Tambo in the representations, but got going quick smart after realising my mistake and they were included from the same date of operation.

One major  improvement for country public servants I was involved in  during the early 70’s was the introduction of Locality Allowances to compensate for isolation,  higher cost of living, and other disadvantages experienced  by members working and  transferred to  the country.
At the urging of the major public service unions the PSB established a committee consisting of Pat  Bredhauer, Leo Hielscher and Jim McDonnell to conduct hearings ,gather  evidence throughout the State, and  make a recommendation to Cabinet.
Gavin Leyshon  from the PSB was the secretary and organised the itinerary and accommodation.

The Unions were invited to make submissions and co-ordinate membership participation at all of the centres   visited.
Ted Clarke QTU,Pat Coyne POA, and myself  represented the members on the trip.
 
We left Archerfield in a twin engine Cessna and travelled as far north as Thursday Island  visiting  as many centres as possible, where government employees were stationed,  in the north, west and centre.
The result was the introduction of   Locality allowances for each centre based on a  formula which attempted to measure and rate the differentials between them.
 It wasn’t perfect; we discovered anomalies, but  it was  a significant improvement on the out dated zone allowances,  and was well received by the membership.
 
Everyone got on very well together on the trip, Leo Hielscher  in particular was a great guy and excellent company.
We all enjoyed the experience and the members benefited.
Leo now in his 80’s  later got a gong  for his lifetime devotion to state affairs  and the Bligh government  recently re-named the Gateway bridge after him.

More tomorrow   now  off to watch Heartbeat :thumbsup:t
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-01, 09:30 AM
It was Tough at the Top

After Tom retired in 1980 I was appointed General Secretary and if I thought things was tough before, they were to get much tougher over the next few years.
Sir Joh Bjelke- Petersen was Premier and early in the piece he was generally accessible when we asked for meetings.
When we did get deputations to him he was courteous and sometimes receptive to our reasonable requests.

I got on well with him on a personal  level  on the few occasions we met and he even sought my opinion a couple of times on public service issues.
Whenever I was invited to a function where he was present I noticed Bob his bodyguard would   be seated close by my wife and me.
Bob was a plain clothes police officer and a very nice guy.
 
Joh’s  first ministerial appointment  years before was  Minister of Works where the Permanent Head was David Longland who Joh trusted implicitly, this was to be a major factor to our advantage when Sir David was appointed to chair the PSB and Joh had risen to become Sir Joh, Premier. He would listen to David.
Sir David Longland was a great man, an outstanding public servant .
His memory lives on with a government building named after him, as well as a prison.
 
At the height of his power , Sir Joh would have regular press conferences, feeding the chooks, as he described it. It was quite entertaining at times especially  when  he was quizzed on contentious issues.
”Don’t you worry about that “was his catch cry but  now and then he came up with some memorable quotes.
Once he called South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu “a witch doctor” when he criticised Joh and another which stuck in my memory was “If they give me a problem, I’ll give them a bigger problem.”

Gough Whitlam  who could rustle up an insult or two when required, called him “a bible bashing bastard” but  he hit below the belt sometimes, dismissively describing  Jack  Egerton   as a modern day “Sir Toby Belch ”  after he was knighted.
Jack was a rough diamond rising from a boilermaker to become  head of the TLC and a heavy hitter in the Federal ALP.
He was one of original  “ faceless men” according to Gough.
I always liked Jack and  got to know him well through his son Ron who was a mate.
We helped getting him appointed to the Harness Racing Board when  Bill Knox was Minister and had some vacancies to fill.

Towards the end Joh was out of control, David Longland  had  long retired and things were never the same.
The white shoe brigade was pulling the strings and we even had to put up with them in the public service.

Joh   eventually resigned  at the point of a gun and was replaced by Mike Ahearn.
The President and I met him early as Premier but his tenure was short lived.
The Fitzgerald Inquiry dropped its load and Russell Cooper took over.
He was a  decent   guy, we  got on very well with  him when he was Minister for Corrective Services.
That   didn’t  count for much  when he lost the next election.

Musical chairs weren’t  confined to the coalition parties, ALP Opposition  leader Nev  Warbuton  was replaced by Wayne Goss who ousted the Nationals in the election and became the first Labor Premier since the split in 1957.

I had witnessed plenty of industrial disputes over the years but none as bitter or as close to home as the SEQEB dispute in the 1980’s.
The ETU went on strike over the introduction of contract labour for linesmen and were supported by the MOA  whose members worked in power stations controlling the switches   which allowed them to turn the power on or off.
There were wide spread blackouts and power outages causing great distress and inconvenience throughout the city and suburbs.
Businesses were forced to  close , staff were stood down, offices had no power, lights, aircon and lifts were out.
Things were grinding to a halt and everyone was suffering.

While there was some initial sympathy for the strikers the  public  by this had had enough.
Many experienced blackouts as they were sitting down to dinner or wanting to watch the 6 o’clock news.

At this point I came up with a brain wave  to go and see the Governor and while I didn’t expect him to do what Sir John Kerr did, I thought  it was worth a shot that he might intervene and allow cooler heads to prevail.
What’s the point of having a Head of State if he only cuts a few ribbons and shakes a few hands at garden parties.

The  Senior Vice President and I jumped in a cab and went  out to Fernberg Rd.
There was no security on the gate and we walked in on the Governor  sitting at his desk in the study.
He got a bit of a shock as we came unannounced but he was courteous and politely listened to our plea which from memory I had put in writing.
Whether he did anything I never found out.

All efforts to resolve the dispute had failed.
The TLC  became involved and rejected calls to call a General strike.......realising they couldn’t win.
Blind Freddy would have known that at the start but the ETU had the blinkers on.

The ETU leadership was invisible right from the start, the campaign was run  by one of their organisers  thrown into the deep end.
While this was going on there were countless demonstrations with supporters chanting  “Victory to the ETU...give the sack to Joh.” 
But Joh had dug in and offered a sweet heart deal of massive pay increases   to the power station operators to break the strike.

When it ended the strikers were offered their jobs back on contracts which  ironically was the issue they had gone on strike to prevent.
Most lost everything, their jobs, their entitlements and even their super.
It was a disaster from beginning to end and was captured in a documentary “Friends and Enemies” which went behind the picket lines and even into the homes of those involved.
When shown on TV it was graphic and not good for trade unions.


Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: richo on 2011-Feb-01, 02:53 PM
yeh arsey i remember the backouts i took a horse to brisbane while it was on and 2 nights in a motel without power wasn't fun and people were sick of it recall at the finish it was down to 6 or 7  holding out and joh threatened to put their names and addresses in the paper and they went back, thats how i remember it most were on their side at the start.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-01, 03:34 PM
yeh arsey i remember the backouts i took a horse to brisbane while it was on and 2 nights in a motel without power wasn't fun and people were sick of it recall at the finish it was down to 6 or 7  holding out and joh threatened to put their names and addresses in the paper and they went back, thats how i remember it most were on their side at the start.

Yes Richo,it was a very  bad time.

This is a 3 part video from the doco Friends & Enemies which gives a glimpse into the past.

http://aso.gov.au/titles/documentaries/friends-and-enemies/clip3/
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-02, 06:50 AM
The Union was independent politically in my time but many years before it had been affiliated with the ALP.
It disaffiliated in 1957 after the split when the former Premier Vince Gair and all but one of his Cabinet colleagues deserted the ALP and started their breakaway party the QLP.
John Duggan the Transport Minister stuck with the ALP in opposition when the Country Liberal Coalition won the election holding power until ousted by the Labor party with Wayne Goss as Premier in 1989.
 
Vince Gair was given a job in the public service, in the Dept of Labour & Industry.
This would have been before he went to the Senate as I think he later finished as Ambassador to Ireland.
The Minister, John Herbert, created the job especially for Vince.
The union kicked up a fuss about this blatant political patronage but once again we were ignored.
 
There was still  a lot of resentment about how his government   treated the public service when he was  Premier.
I was told by those who knew, that they were treated as second class citizens. That was well  before my time.   
I only met Vince once after his controversial appointment,  he seemed harmless enough at that time.

The union had largely run its own race, we liked our independence and we had good relations with  most other unions without wanting to get in the same bed with them...We  didn’t go about trying to poach  their members and they left us alone ,but body snatching was alive in the private sector.

We had few membership disputes, apart from when we attempted to amend our constitution to cover people who were in newly created  occupations and were clamouring to join, but were ineligible due to restrictions of our own constitution, while  other unions had no such restrictions.

We lost out to the Missos when Teacher Aides were introduced as they were regarded as casual (although they weren’t in practical terms) and our rules specified members needed to be permanent employees of the Crown.
That was a big loss of potential members for us and an unexpected windfall for the Missos.

Another time in the Industrial Court before the President, Judge Mostyn Hanger, I represented the Union but lost out to our opposition the Clerks Union which had Con McLaughlin, later a District Court Judge representing them.

During the hearing Mossie gave me an easy ride but he kept interrupting  Con .
When Con made a point the Judge would look up at him and ask the most difficult question, only one word ....“WHY”................I was enjoying this.
 
Con was most uncomfortable but  I should have known better than to think we were home and hosed .
When the decision came down it wasn’t to be and it was back to the drawing board.
Another potential swastika which didn’t make the cockpit.

Pat Bredhauer and many other union officials of his generation avoided the media like the plague but he did speak to Frank Freudenberg occasionally without being quoted.
Frank wrote a weekly political column in the Brisbane Telegraph and kept his eyes wide open and his ear to the ground, he had lots of exclusives,......... pollies loved to leak.

Tom Wallace on the other hand revelled in speaking to the press who were always on the phone looking for a story.
Tom made every post a winner with the press, never withholding anything that could be beefed up into a bit of news.
I followed his lead when it was my turn and the union raised its profile considerably thanks to the efforts of top quality  journos   like Max Jessup, Quentin Dempster, and Harry Williams to name a few.
 
Talking to the press wasn’t always  wise, there  were drawbacks  as I found out when I received a call from Sir Lew Edwards, Deputy  Premier & Treasurer ,who was with Sir Joh in Canberra  at the Premiers’ Conference this day .
He  told me  they had heard that Jack Stanaway (who had previously worked for Tom Burns when he was ALP leader and was now a  newspaper journo)  had found out about changes  in the pipeline for the superannuation scheme and was about to write it up.

I knew nothing at all about this but it would have been discussed at the Superannuation Board on which the union was represented by the President.
It was clear that they thought he had told Stanaway.If he did it was  probably  done inadvertently as it was of no benefit to us for him to have an exclusive.
The government didn’t want Stanaway stealing their thunder and it was put to me if the story got out before the government   could  announce  it all bets were off.

I got hold of the President as soon as I could, explained the position and  left it to him to put the brakes on his mate.
As it turned out Jack Stanaway, did the right thing, allowing  the  government to announce the improvements to the  scheme, and the story  if he ever had one, was yesterday’s news.
 
Flexible working hours in my  opinion  was  the best innovation  in my time with the union. 
It was a great benefit to our members, it cost the government nothing and  was  truly a  WIN, WIN situation for everyone.
 
We had been successful in getting the government to introduce flexible working hours in spite of  some resistance from sections of the Cabinet.
Some  didn’t  see  the  advantages for the departments or  appreciate the benefits  it provided for their staffs or  the general  public. 
It was a totally new concept, much  different from the old nine to five operation everyone was used to.

The scheme was on a knife edge at one point when the major afternoon   newspaper ran an expose’ quoting a couple of  anonymous  public servants, “Peter & Paul” ,shooting their mouths off  to a reporter, claiming how easy it was to rort the system.
This caused a negative reaction in the corridors of power and we were concerned that opponents of the scheme could use this as an excuse to cancel it.
This full page  spread in the paper was run without any contact with me, so I complained to the Editor and demanded a right of reply to which he agreed.

Getting the right of reply was one thing, but putting it together was something else.
Composing the rebuttal to nullify the damage was a job for a writer more skilled than me.
I contacted Max Jessup, who I knew well, and asked him to accept this job. I gave him an outline of what was wanted and his job was to put it into words.
 
Max arrived after lunch and it was obvious he had been drinking and I  was very dubious he  could manage  the job in this condition.
This’ll be a nice mess...... I thought, as I watched him walk unsteadily to  our  Library “The Tom Bolger Room” to start working
.
I should never have doubted his ability, drunk or sober he was a master of the written word.
Max did a splendid job and the story was submitted to the paper which published it in full.
And flexible hours remained intact.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-02, 09:10 AM
This has been a very interesting read Arsenal and just reaffirms my thoughts that all journos are pisspots. :beer:

I had worked with SEQEB for 10 years and started just a short time after the infamous strikes.
It took a long time for the damage that had been done during the strikes to recede from the general publics memory if it did at all.

I loved my job but admit you felt as an employee that you were public enemy number one.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-02, 09:47 AM
Keep going Arsenal.....I recall most of this and even the names.  As I said earlier, I knew Vince gair quite well.  He was an interesting bloke, quite likeable and typical of the politician the public has little insight to (I suspect nothing much has changed, even today).  We (my mates from the antisocialism corner) revelled in his part in the downfall of Whitlam.  The story went pretty simply.  

Vince was a DLP Senator and held the balance of power in the Whitlam govt.  Vince was well past his use by date but still as canny as a snake.  Both sides of politics would lobby him for his vote and he was used to doing deals.  Whitlam knew his weaknesses well and, knowing he was looking to retire from representative politics tempted him with a govt post (Ambassador to Ireland, as you say) with all the perks and benefits of an ex poliie and a diplomat.  Vince was a devout catholic (mass on Sunday and several times during the week). He would go down to St Stephens at lunchtime with my dad during the week.  I occasionally joined them.  The Brisbane catholic faith was virtually a branch of the Irish church, so to be offered the office of Ambassador to Ireland was unrefusable and Whitlam knew it.  So off Vince went to Ireland happy as a pig in mud, with perks a politician would kill for.  

Vince held a clear conscience in all of this because he had been to the top as a labor Premier, then hung, drawn and quartered by the ALP left in the 1950's.  He was treated poorly and vindictively, and had a few scores to settle.  His demise split the ALP in half and led to the rise of Frank Nicklan's Country party who brought Joh to cabinet.  The hatred between Jack Duggan and Vince was palpable.  Vince's friendship with Jack Copely was strong and Duggan set out to destroy them both.   But it only made them stronger and the DLP quickly formed and destroyed the ALP in Qld for a generation.  

Ironically, it was labor that created the famous Gerrymander in Qld and it is not well understood that Nicklin simply used it to max advantage.  Frank was an old man but his death was still unexpected.  Jack Pizzy died even more unexpectedly if that is possible and Joh sprang from nowhere, such was the succession planning in those days.

Back to the senate.  Whitlam's folly was to presume Joh would follow convention and appoint a labor person to the Senate vacancy.  That was unbelievably niaive and typical of Whitlam, who had delusions he was Emperor of his ALL his subjects.  Joh, of course, said buggar convention and found some loony tune in Albert Fields who made Pauline Hansen look like a socialist.

The rest is history.  Whitlam enraged and fell at the first hurdle.  The blocking of supply in 1972.  I recall vividly my own reaction to the passing of supply in the House of Reps that 11/11/1972.  I could not believe how dumb Whitlam was in regard managing a crisis.   All he needed was to find a strategist, and quickly.  Radio was the go in those days stay abreast.  Pity Whitlam and his minders were obviously not tuned in.  The Budget bills had been bouncing between the Reps and Senate for weeks and the daily stalemate had become humdrum.  Then on the morning of the 11th the Senate again reject Supply first minute BUT in the sitting before lunch the radio reported rumours that Malcolm Fraser would be seeing the GG.  He saw Fraser first, then Whitlam.  Fraser raced back back to parliament, knowing he was going to be caretaker PM later that day, and was already in Govt mode.  There was a constitutional sequence that had to be followed (withdraw Whitlam's commission as PM, close the Parliament at 3.00pm, summons and appoint Fraser).  Fraser knew he would need supply immediately to make the caretaker role possible, and could easily change policy post an election.  He had an hour of parliamentary sitting between 2.00 and 3.00pm left before the window of opportunity closed.

Emperor Gough went to lunch at the Lodge with his mates to bitch about Kerr and try to contact the Queen.  They forgot to tell the leader of the Reps and Senate to adjourn the parliament when it resumed at 2.00pm.....a fundamental blunder.  I should check Hansard but Iam pretty sure that Fraser marched into the Reps as Opposition leader at 2.00pm and immediately moved to vote on the Budget papers.  The labor members in the Reps knew nothing as Gough had gone to lunch. They were stunned but didn't question the motive.  The Bills were passed without division and the labor boys rejoiced at the seeming collapse of the Opposition resolve.  They thought Fraser has blinked first. Then 30 minutes later they went to the Senate and Reg Withers did simlar.  Crisis over, or so the ALP thought.  Gough had supply and could move on.  The victory was short lived.  Gough finally got wind of what was happening and raced from the Lodge back to Parliament House at 2.30pm.  Then the penny dropped.  David Smith turned up on the steps of the Parliament House at 3.00pm and read the missive from the GG that shut down the Parliament and appointed Malcolm as caretaker PM until an election could be called.  Supply assured.  Kerr probably gave assent to the Supply Bills that day.

The irony was that had Gough voted against his own supply bills after lunch, Kerr would have been checkmated and the Queen would have been forced to consider Gough's call to remove Kerr and retain him as PM.  But the Emperor was too busy raging about the injustice of it all, and forgot to tell his troops what was happening and what the consequences were.  

Such was the legacy of Vince Gair.   I had lost touch with him by the 1970's but I know he would have enjoyed the circus.

More please Arsenal, more.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-02, 09:55 AM
Mono

Are you a sparky?   emthup   I have some issues with my clothes dryer.  Do you charge mates rates for cash? :love:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-02, 10:03 AM
Mono

Are you a sparky?    emthup    I have some issues with my clothes dryer.  Do you charge mates rates for cash? :love:

Norton although I worked in the industry for 10 years or so it was not as a sparky. 

I had a supervisory role of sorts with the installation of underground power and sub station work.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-02, 10:38 AM
That'l do.  You can stand behind Mrs Norton whilst she does the repair and switch off the mains if necessary.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-02, 10:46 AM
  :lol:
gee norton I could tell you some stories of the close shaves we encountered putting the power on for the public.

I took out West End with a wayward crowbar thrust that glanced off some rock and cut through some high voltage cable.  I've never seen peop0le move so quick when it went off. :sweat:

There's something about electricity that can instill fear into you if you don't know what your doing...the fact you can't see it or smell it makes it worse.

But where would we be without it...
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-02, 09:44 PM
You've got a much better recall than me Norton about the dismissal........very interesting stuff. :clap2:

I never knew anything about Albert Field apart from the fact that he was an official of the Federated Furnishing Trades Union,which was a very small union. :rolleyes:

When I saw him on TV I couldn't believe he could be as dumb as he looked......once he opened his trap.......there was no doubt.  :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-02, 10:00 PM
Norton will  appreciate this ......it's about the power of prayer.

The union never had a car until my time and Tom Wallace was doing a country tour in his own private vehicle a Ford Zephyr.

We were reimbursed at whatever the current mileage allowances were in the public service about 10c a Km then 1965 or thereabouts.

Tom broke down on the road to Toompine not a car in sight in either direction.

It was getting late and he worried he would be spending  the night on the side of the road and be attacked by marauding animals

So he got out his rosary beads and prayed.

His prayers were answered.................all of a sudden a car came into view..........and he was rescued .......by a Church of England Clergyman. :clap2:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-03, 09:13 AM
Have no doubt, prayer works  :thumbsup: .  When God inspired the prophets and apostles to write the Bible, they set the rules for murderers, thieves, prostitutes, adulterers  :/  and even accountants  :whistle: got a mention but, sadly, jockeys didn't exist then.  So it seems that whilst God listens to a punter's prayer for a winner, the omnipotent is powerless to redirect jockeys to ride well. 

Hopefully with the second coming we can seek a rewrite of the rules but, of, course, by then we will get the race results the day before and everyone should win at the punt  :bop: .  Well, the ones that behaved anyway, can't speak for the misbehavers and kiwis.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-03, 02:09 PM
The public service was a career service, advancement depended on efficiency and in the event of equality, seniority came into consideration.
The PS regulations provided that only in exceptional circumstances should outsiders be appointed to classified positions which must be advertised.

There  was  a loophole in the form  of an escape clause which allowed many outsiders to be appointed by certifying there were no qualified officers  already employed  who would be suited for the job and positions could be excluded from right of appeal and not advertised if the government so decided.
 
This had been going on for years and while we always kicked up a fuss it fell on deaf ears.
Political patronage was alive and well although it wasn’t  applicable in all cases of outside appointments  and  was never  as bad then as it was to become in later times.

So when Pat Killoran the head of the DAIA appointed a guy off the street as Manager of the Dept’s Aboriginal  Creations  retail shop in George St, a job in which one of the union Executive had been acting and  was by-passed  when the job became available,  and we decided it was time to test  it  in the Supreme Court.

Jeff Ahearn was the guy bypassed and he showed great guts and determination in allowing the union to use him as a test  case.
We had engaged David Jackson QC who was regarded as the best in the business and we were quietly confident of success.
Unfortunately when the case was set down he was tied up in another case interstate but  our solicitors were able  to secure Marshall Cooke QC  who with Jim Murdoch as Junior ably presented our case.
Jim, now a SC himself ,was our retained Counsel in my time, and is still practising at the Bar as well as training the odd racehorse in his spare time.

Despite the best efforts of our legal team the case was doomed from the start when we drew Judge Angelo Vasta, who was later impeached and removed from office in the aftermath of  the Fitzgerald  Report.

From the 1960’s there was a loose knit organisation called the Combined Industrial Unions Committee of which we were a member.
It consisted of the AWU, Clerks, Shoppies, QSSU, Police, and several smaller unions including one in the Railways represented by Peter Beattie later to become state secretary of the ALP and eventually Premier after Wayne Goss.

The CIUC was very active, the TLC had been a bit lethargic at times and the CIUC stepped up. We were involved in many  issues and on one occasion I recall  we resorted to The Profiteering Prevention Act which I think is no longer in force.
I had the honour of being President from 1983 until I retired.
John Hogg now an ALP Senator took over.

The union affiliated with Public Services International   briefly and I attended one World Congress in Singapore with the President and our two Vice Presidents.
It was a rewarding experience for me meeting our colleagues from around the globe and broadening our minds by  listening  to their stories, exchanging information and understanding how their public services were structured.

We were also associated with ACSPA, another loose grouping of white collar unions, which met occasionally on matters of mutual interest and conducted training seminars.
This was before TUTA the trade union training authority was formed.
Frank Doyle was the first chairman and he was always connecting and encouraging support from us and other unions for the courses TUTA provided.

It was around the early 1980’s that our federation of  interstate  public service unions and associations, the APSF joined the ACTU nationally, bypassing the state TLC’s.
The 1985 ACTU conference in Sydney was my first.
Most things were settled beforehand without any public disagreements.
I recall the BLF burning an effigy outside the Town Hall of one high ranking unionist which was pretty disgusting.

I think Simon Crean was President and Bill Kelty secretary.
We had to choose a vice president, there were two candidates, one from the hard left, metal trades groups the other from the moderate Labor Council right in NSW.

Some of our group including  our friends in the POA wanted to support the leftie while we and others were convinced he had nothing in common with public servants while the other one did.
So we went for the guy from NSW, John McBean. 
We had the numbers, McBean got up with a big majority.
The chardonnay socialists got their noses out of joint and went off grumbling with their tails  between their legs.
It was the right decision, Mc Bean turned up trumps.


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Post by: arthur on 2011-Feb-03, 02:16 PM
When I went to Sunday School . . On the days when I didn't 'wag' it and keep the 'plate money' . .

The nuns taught us that Moses was the first jockey . .  but the Lord kept telling him to come fourth

Apparently Mossy had a favourite horse in the Jerusalem Cup called 'The Tern' considered by many to be a bird . . .  

but he fell at the mile peg, with the course announcer coining the  phrase 'Prophet on Tern, over!!' . .




Shame they don't have Sunday School these days . . Never did us any harm ( :chin:)
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-04, 07:26 AM
It was at this 1985 ACTU Congress at the Sydney Town Hall that I had my first serious setback.
I had felt unwell for a day or so and this day I left early to see a doctor.
We were staying at the Top of The Town in Kings Cross and when I got back asked the desk clerk for directions to a local doctor; he suggested I go to St Vincent’s Hospital.
 
It turned out I was having a heart attack and I got attention in the nick of time, I nearly died and was in intensive care for 10 days.
I was off work for months and even when I resumed I was still very weak and took a long time to recover.
Speaking at meetings which was a major part of my job took a lot out of me.
I was on medication but managed to get on with life until the problems resurfaced about three years later.
 
This time I was advised if I wanted to keep on living I should give the job away.
It was a very stressful period, almost   daily conflict, lots of pressure, tension, and it had taken its toll.
I had been at it for 25 years, the last  19 or so in the trenches at or near the top.
I knew it was time to call it a day. I retired on the grounds of ill health in September 1988 three years after suffering my first heart attack.

State Service House in Elizabeth St., which was our home almost from the day the union was born, was sold to a developer, Kevin Seymour I think it was, in the  late 1980’s ,and it’s still standing although I have never been back.
In partnership with the Credit Union the Union purchased a five story building in Albert St., next to Festival Hall which enabled staff to be accommodated on the one level rather than how it was in the old offices.

Over the years the union managed to achieve many significant improvements in pay and conditions.
There are too many to mention but some of those I recall were Increases in long service leave, and flexibility  in the option of taking  it, annual leave increased from three to four weeks, five weeks for shift workers ,and improvements to superannuation, shift  allowances, penalty rates  and daily travelling allowances to name a few
 
Locality Allowances replaced the miserable Zone allowances for public servants in the Northern and Western parts of the state and we were instrumental in introducing flexible working hours which are a major benefit and even more flexible today.

Much of our time was spent  in assisting individual members with  a wide variety of work related problems.
 
One case  more of a humanitarian nature  was getting the Federal government to intervene in the case of a Vietnamese  member who  was separated from  his wife after he had fled the country with his children and the Vietnamese government refused  to grant a visa for his wife.

He approached the union in desperation and with the help of Bill Hayden then Foreign Minister the Vietnamese government  eventually relented and she was able to rejoin the family.
As a measure of his appreciation my wife and I were invited to dinner with his family where I met his parish Priest Father  Peter Kennedy for the first time.
 
I got to know Peter Kennedy quite well after that and my wife and I would often go to Sunday Mass in his church St.Mary’s in South Brisbane.
Talking to him one day I noticed  that the church  badly needed repainting but they had no funds.

I put the hard word on  Peter Jones,  another  good guy, who was then  head of the Corrective Services Dept  to see if a couple of trusted prisoners could carry out the painting. 
The paint was provided by  Jim Kennedy, Peter’s brother,  who  donated the funds ,and the prisoners did the rest.

I was very fortunate having the opportunities that working for the union gave.
I’ve met some great people, none better than the rank and file members who put their trust in us to represent them as vigorously and honestly as our abilities allowed.
 
It was a privilege to have worked with the high quality people on Executive and Council who gave me their loyalty and support and the office and industrial staff who shared the load and kept the engine room running.

I only had to sack one person in my time. She complained to her union but it went no further when they realised she didn’t have a leg to stand on.

I mingled with lots of interesting characters, encountered a few con artists, a handful of back stabbing opportunists and white- anters, but mainly  I remember a whole lot of good, decent people.
 
It was great while it lasted.
 
When I retired the Union presented me with a set of golf clubs, bag and buggy and I took lessons from Hughie Dolan at Brisbane GC to learn how to use them.

That started me on another adventure I wouldn’t have missed for the world.

 :bye: :bye:
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Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-04, 09:31 AM
Arsenal I suppose you would have got to communicate with the then ACTU president Bob Hawke?

I remember while doing a 7 year stint with GMH in Sydney  from 74 -80 I had the pleasure to say G'day and have a chat to Bob when he was helping  the VBU at the time to prevent or help out with the closure of the Pagewood car manufacturing plant.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-04, 06:40 PM
Mono I only met Hawkey once or twice that was after his ACTU days.

He attended the PSI Congress in Singapore and joined in our stage presentation.

Always enjoyed himself and very personable. :beer:
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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Feb-04, 10:11 PM
Arsenal,
Be very chuffed what you have achieved. What a man   :clap2: :clap2: A lot of those benefits I'm sure carried on in my  own league.

Heart attack and still alive--legend--I had mine at 40 yrs---52 now--so I need to kiss someone---I keep kissing the Mrs--so far --all good---Arse--you should be very proud.


 :beer:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-05, 09:07 PM
Thanks Chuggers..........had a lot of luck........some good and not so good........lets hope we keep  our  :heart:  ticking  over for a bit longer. :thumbsup:


One day at a time :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-07, 09:55 PM
Days At The Races

I was a boy in short pants when my father would take me to the provincial races during school holidays when he wasn’t working.
He was a bookies clerk  always working on Saturdays but sometimes didn’t have a job on Wednesdays, the only other day races were held back then.

Race meetings were held at  Oxenford, Kilcoy, Esk, Beaudesert, Toogoolawah, Gatton  & Laidley are those I remember.
The amenities weren’t too flash at some of them , some of the race day stalls were made of rough timber with sapling branches and hessian on the top to keep out the heat.
Races were from open barriers and sometimes  a horse would jump into the strands when it couldn’t be restrained or the jockey might anticipate the start.

One of my early memories is of a horse which  raced in Hack class his name was Cagou Lad.
These races were over 4 furlongs and from what I can remember many were bred from station mares there was one by unidentified sire out  of unidentified mare but that was due to some technical issue with the registration process.

Cagou Lad was top weight the day I first saw him and I noticed his colours seemed to be made of flannelette rather than the satins worn by  other jockeys,which is probably how I can remember him after all those years.
His colours were white with  two or three yellow armbands on the sleeves and  a black cap.
Many years later Time & Tide raced in similar colours which I expect was pure coincidence as it was a gigantic gap in time and ability between the two.

On the way home  my father and the other guys would stop at a pub while I waited in the car and had a red drink brought out, raspberry cordial maybe.
Wherever they pulled up Cliff Pyle’s float was already there or would arrive soon after and sometimes if it was a winning day, they would shout his stable boys  in the truck, a  soft drink .

Bookies would call the odds there were no betting boards and no broadcast offcourse but the results always made the Telegraph the afternoon paper with the Last Race edition carrying the final race result in the Stop Press.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-08, 07:21 PM
When I was working and had money of my own I never missed a  Saturday meeting, starting in the Leger although I did slip down  a peg or two once or twice into the Flat although never at Albion Park. 
By then I had graduated to the Paddock, big time with a Borsalino hat,silver with  a feather.
Everyone wore hats in those days even the strappers wore suits ties and hat.                   
None of this jeans and joggers we see today.

There were no mobile phones  or price fluctuations and runners would leave the course to relay prices to SP bookies by telephones either in nearby houses or from public telephones.
I remember reading something about the government trying to stamp this out but don’t recall the details.
There were lots of transfers from the Paddock to the Leger.
I remember seeing blokes running between the two enclosures trying to get a better price or trying to crush a shortener he was on at a longer price.
They were years ahead of Betfair.
Sometimes I would tail one to see what he was backing.

SP betting  was rampant well before the TAB was introduced in the early 60’s.It was open go at Tweed Heads behind a billiard saloon, prices on the board for races in every state and there was one organisation operating on the phones from a private hotel in George St and SP’s in every pub in every suburb,in every town and City.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/hats-off-to-fashions-golden-age-of-style/2007/06/01/1180205513889.html
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Post by: westie on 2011-Feb-08, 07:52 PM
Arsenal
I recall SP bookies still around after the TAB was introduced (remember you had to get your bets on early before some silly deadline) I frequented the Colmslie and Manly Hotels in those days. I also visited all those provincial tracks except Toogoolawah, where is that ?.
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Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-08, 08:35 PM
I use to run a book for a well known Sydney SP at our local watering hole...I'll always remember the time the new tab manager (only been in business for 12 months or so) complained to the local police ( 100 mtrs down from the pub) that his business was dropping a lot of turnover and he suspected an illegal SP operation being run from the pub.
Wasn't long before the tip came through that the pub was to be raided.  Naturally when police  raided pub not  a notepad or formguide were to be found with any suspicious bets recorded. 
The all clear was given to resume normal operations.

It  wasn't long before that tab manager was moved on..  :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-08, 08:52 PM
I use to run a book for a well known Sydney SP at our local watering hole...I'll always remember the time the new tab manager (only been in business for 12 months or so) complained to the local police ( 100 mtrs down from the pub) that his business was dropping a lot of turnover and he suspected an illegal SP operation being run from the pub.
Wasn't long before the tip came through that the pub was to be raided.  Naturally when police  raided pub not  a notepad or formguide were to be found with any suspicious bets recorded. 
The all clear was given to resume normal operations.

It  wasn't long before that tab manager was moved on..   :lol:  

Lots of SP's had agents  paying shilling in the pound commission & not on revenue like TAB & corporates.

Would have been a good earn Mono........ya still haven't spent it   :lol: either
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-08, 08:53 PM
Arsenal
I recall SP bookies still around after the TAB was introduced (remember you had to get your bets on early before some silly deadline) I frequented the Colmslie and Manly Hotels in those days. I also visited all those provincial tracks except Toogoolawah, where is that ?.

They haven't raced there for yonks Westie but its out past ESK :thumbsup:
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Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-08, 09:00 PM
George Freeman Mono?  I note you have the same choice in flamboyant ties. 
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Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-08, 09:04 PM
Norton I'm not name dropping here....but he did just live around the corner.

The two up schools were thriving as well in those days...always a good place to get a free drink and a taxi fare home if you did your dough.
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Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-08, 09:26 PM
Blimey.  I will have to become more cautious dealing with the Cleveland mafia from now on.   BTW I can't do the job on DD's car tomorrow as I had foot surgery Monday and can't run fast.  Turns out only 6 races as well so there was a risk he would have time to watch the car park.
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Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-08, 09:35 PM
Norton the mafia have mellowed with age.

Good luck with the foot .  Those ingrown toenails can be painful  :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-09, 08:40 AM
A couple of weeks ago I bought a pair of Ice Sleeves which protect your arms  from the sun when golfing.

I got them from  a golf shop  for$24 a reduction on the RRP of $29.95.

On Sunday I noticed another golfer with something similar they cost him $6 on EBay.

Today I bought a second pair EBay this time 99c USD plus postage$1.19 total cost with EBay charges less than $4AUD.

Should tell Gerry........ from Hardly Normal. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-09, 06:49 PM
My grandmother’s house in Loch St was used by the local SP Percy Golder  on Saturdays.

There was  a room under the big old house that was practically undetectable unless you knew it was there.

Percy had a shop on Dornoch Terrace and his SP was a sideline.

One day I remember hearing about him being pinched and he was taken away to the watch house to be charged.

The cops were very considerate in those days asking if he had someone to look after his business while he was away.

My aunty  who happened to be at home filled in that afternoon.

Percy wasn't around when the Fitzgerald Inquiry put the spotlight on SP betting and I don't know if he paid  anyone anything........  but if he did I'll bet he did it grudgingly.

Was very close with a quid.
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Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2011-Feb-09, 06:50 PM
I'm actually interested in what makes Arsenal so bitter towards a party that champions the worker, given he spent most of his working life fighting for the rights of workers.

Can't work out if it is bitterness that other people took up the fight. Looking forward to the final instalments of the saga, his apparent support of WorkChoices and the one eyed parochial view of what makes the conservatives so wonderful.

Maybe his golf partners have swayed him or Alan Jones is his lovechild
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Post by: winner on 2011-Feb-09, 07:17 PM
Yes the story so far has been interesting Arsenal  emthup

Like Walter I'm looking forward to the part where it all went wrong. :sad:
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Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-09, 07:54 PM
Fellas, if you follow this trend you put great blogs like Arsenal's at risk.  Suggest leave the personal attacks to Soap Box threads. 
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Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2011-Feb-09, 07:56 PM
Fellas, if you follow this trend you put great blogs like Arsenal's at risk.  Suggest leave the personal attacks to Soap Box threads. 
Huh????
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Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-09, 08:19 PM
Winner writes

"like Walter, I am looking forward to the part where it all went wrong".  Why say something like that?  Let's leave it.....have a go at me somewhere else.
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Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2011-Feb-09, 08:22 PM
Winner writes

"like Walter, I am looking forward to the part where it all went wrong".  Why say something like that?  Let's leave it.....have a go at me somewhere else.

Ahhh...So Norton is Arsenal in disguise.
Now it makes sense
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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2011-Feb-09, 08:26 PM
Ahhh...So Norton is Arsenal in disguise.
Now it makes sense

You didn't realise that? :what:

ted-e-turner is his other nic.
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Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-09, 08:41 PM
C'mon, behave.....this is someone elses room.
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Post by: winner on 2011-Feb-09, 08:54 PM
My question was in regard to how someone who worked so hard for workers rights could turn out such a hard line conservative.

Anyway I withdraw my question. There are obviously bigger issues at play here.
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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Feb-09, 10:07 PM
My question was in regard to how someone who worked so hard for workers rights could turn out such a hard line conservative.

Anyway I withdraw my question. There are obviously bigger issues at play here.

Isn't blogs the personal domain to the person that started it.

Wally/JWH---(Winner--your withdrawal is appreciated) --your attacks should be on the main forum-soap box--or at least as a PM--we are visiting his "life" as he wants to share it.

Mind you Arse may say "Fck off to me"--and that would be fair comment IMHO.--it is his blog.

 :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-10, 08:11 AM
Thanks Norton & Chuggers............appreciate your support :thumbsup:

Wally is seriously mistaken in claiming I support/supported Work Choices..............that's a malicious lie and he has no basis for saying that. :bleh:

There are,no doubt, some good people in politics on both sides and  I don't love the Libs or hate Labor.

I'm middle of the road and until recently have always voted Labor...............but that's my business.

I'm not keen on politicans  especially the current crop,  mediocrity everywhere with one or two exceptions up in my home state.

There are too many time self serving opportunists and social climbers imo.

Apart from Wally's clumsy slip I did enjoy your comments. :thumbsup:

You're welcome to return anytime. :beer:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-10, 07:34 PM
Before I graduated to the Paddock I was  in the Leger the day one of the bookies took the knock and left his clerk holding the empty bag while he bolted for the gate.
Berry Hill was his name a big fat looking grub.

Fortunately for the punters  one of the other fielders stood up calling out “Pay Berry Hill’s tickets”..... he was a short guy  with fair reddish hair Len Dalton  was his name I think.
 
There were three enclosures with dozens of bookies in each, divided into local and  separate interstate rings.

There were no rails bookies  then or covered betting rings, they hired umbrellas and called the odds until betting boards were eventually introduced.

The bookies all dressed up  in suits and hats Digger Lobb had his clerks in monogramed  dust coats as did old Dadda Maxted in the southern events.

Frank Burke,Jim Watson,Artie Griffiths,Charley Flanagan,Tom Marney,Harry Hood were all big bettors in those days.

I was standing near Tom Marney one day when a punter claimed him for a nod bet and clearly Tom Marney didn’t know the guy from Adam.

Where are you from Mr.So & So asked the bookie “from the Club” replied this little urger as though everyone should have known who he was.
 
Marney let him on and the horse got beaten and that was the last we saw of him.

Another time a friend of my father was working for a bookie and he paid out a four figure bet as soon as weight was declared.

He didn’t know it at the time but the ticket had been altered and it was only discovered when the legitimate ticket was presented.

The fraud was done by altering  one or more of the last three digits on an earlier bet with the bookie so that   the numbers corresponded with the winning ticket.
 
The bookie paid out twice and the cheat was never caught.

After that pay out clerks always checked the whole ticket not just the last three digits as was the practice before.
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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-Feb-10, 07:39 PM
I still reckon you shoulda bought the Lands Office.

Big opportunity missed, IMO.   :beer:  ())=(  :bdn: :drinks: :fry: :boxing:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-11, 07:22 AM
I still reckon you shoulda bought the Lands Office.

Big opportunity missed, IMO.   :beer:  ())=(  :bdn: :drinks: :fry: :boxing:


 Out of our league .......but Jim Kennedy did I think. :beer:
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Post by: arthur on 2011-Feb-11, 03:14 PM
Percy wasn't around when the Fitzgerald Inquiry put the spotlight on SP betting and I don't know if he paid  anyone anything........  but if he did I'll bet he did it grudgingly.

He would have . . . They all did (and grudgingly)

It was part of the 'fielding fees'


Couple of blokes I knew (now deceased) decided to start an SP operation in a country town. They were only kids at the time, and they  tossed up to see who would approach the local sergeant with regards to how much they would have to pay him.

As luck would have it, he was one of the non-corrupt brigade and a pillar of the church, (probably why there was no SP'shop' in the town).

He told the young bloke in no uncertain terms, that there would be no SP betting in his neck of the woods, and if  his warnings were ignored, he would sort them out big-time.

Thus it was that a new SP shop came to be  . . but in another small country town, a little further afield from the young fellows 'dunghill'
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Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-11, 04:03 PM
Arsenal

Jim Watson was my second cousin (mother's side).  Dapper & always in a suit, about 6'6" tall and a big bookie as well.  Nice bloke too.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-11, 08:52 PM
I remember JW well Norton he was sartorial splendour personified :no1:...........

I heard he got his bank by winning the Casket 6000 quid and promptly resigned from the public service to take up fielding.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-11, 09:23 PM
When I was old enough to get a clerks license my father got me a job with Frank O’Neill from Toowoomba who was invited to field each year in Brisbane during the winter carnival.
My job was to tick off and pay out at the back.
I never saw a race as the clerks liked a drink between races and it was my job to run to the bar and bring them back.
The only race I ever saw was the last as they always paid out from the front after the last.

This day as luck would have it Keith Noud the on course broadcaster made a rare mistake he called Purse Proud or Rosarium  in a photo as though it was  too close to declare.
I knew Rosarium had won clearly and when I went back to the stand Frank was betting on the photo 3/1 Rosarium 3/1 Rosarium he wanted to lay it as it was a skinner in  the book, probably had a tip as it was a Toowoomba horse trained by Les Watterson.
Frank didn’t see the race and was going on Keith Noud’s call.
Noud had corrected it  but that was drowned out by the crowd .

I said Frank its won but he ignored me and kept trying to lay it.
So  I said I’ll have some of that and pulled out  a big roll one of the clerks always gave me to hold in case he wanted a bet.
Frank saw this and bet 60/20 No sooner had he done this than  the photo came down  with Number 6 Rosarium   shooting into the frame with Purse Proud second.
I collected 60 quid and another 20 for working.
That was big money for me. A fiver was the usual rate of pay.

Another day I saw a guy my father knew Sugar Lloyd backing this horse all around the ring.
He got 140/1 off Goff Ortt who always laid the roughies.
I followed him at 80/1 had 10 bob on it.
Open Caste was its name and he led all the way over 2400m winning the Foundation Day Novice.
I think Toots Alvisio trained it and Bobby McKenna rode it.
I backed the next winner Dashing Lucy 16/1 it was trained by Gordon Shelley at Deagon and ridden by Frank Reys I think or maybe Normie Farr his apprentice.
That was a  big day and would have been even better had I taken the race to race double which if I remember correctly paid in the vicinity of 500 quid.
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Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-12, 08:01 AM
Yep.  Jim won the casket and never looked back.  Finished up in a fine old mansion in Indooroopilly.  In those days of no dope tests, no video, limited form, stewards who saw very little, and every top stable big on the punt, a bookie only needed to hold his nerve to be successful.  The mug money was the best earner you could hope for.  Like picking low hanging fruit.

Another forumite and myself would spend much of the time in the betting ring looking over the pencillers shoulders to see the betting trends.  You didn't need to do form, just had to see where the "in the know" money went.  I am amused these days about the spin put on "market movers".  My observation is that not much of that money is truely informed, just ratings and form analyst info driving trends.  Looks good when the fav wins, but that is never guaranteed.  Often the stable has nothing to do with it.  A couple of weeks ago I collected the trainer's investment on a well backed winner who had won by panels of fencing whilst the trainer had a celebratory drink.  The bet was $5 x $5.  Very different days now.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-14, 09:38 AM
Had a game of golf Sunday and while waiting to be called to the tee I enquired from the starter how  much longer it would be .

On Sundays there are quite a few couples, husbands and wives, playing in groups and there are a few hackers amongst them.

"Not too long now" he said  "you're after Mr.and Mrs. Jack Nicklaus"  :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-14, 10:21 AM
My father in law was only an occasional punter, once he got me to back Grenoble the day it won a G1 at good odds and another year he came to Toowoomba for the Cup with a group as I had a decent double going with Golden Cask after Rebel Prince had won the Weetwood.
That was a memorable day Golden Cask won the Cup and I couldn’t go wrong, never backed a loser.
That night I took everyone out to dinner at Lennons it was the best hotel in town.

The only other time I knew of that he went to the races was at Doomben one public holiday.
He had come by taxi as many did those days and the cabbie had the radio tuned to a racing station on a Newcastle race won by Saydor which turned out to be a pretty good galloper.

When he entered the ring he saw the bookies were still betting on the race, they obviously didn’t hear any broadcast or know that the race had been run and won.
Naturally he dived in and backed Saydor as no doubt did anyone else who heard the result.
He ran into me soon after to tell me the story.
I asked how much he had put on expecting he would have emptied out on this sure fire collect.
No he said I didn’t want to make them suspicious so I only put 10 bob on it.

I was very lucky to back Rebel Prince in the Weetwood and only did so after I ran into a DPI stock inspector who had just come from Noel Best’s stables after spraying the horse.
He told me the horse was cherry ripe and I knew he was a good judge so I backed it on the TAB and took the cup double with happy results.

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-15, 07:28 AM
My memory was jogged by  a par from Obi’s Earsay column yesterday  about betting on club rugby league games at Lang Park  in the old days.
My mate and I would be there amongst the gamblers  on the halfway mark which Obi described as  “The halfway crew bet on everything from penalty kicks to trys.”
I think Obi exaggerated slightly claiming thousands of pounds changed hands.
In my mind it was pretty small only a few quid bet amongst the desperates.

Umbrella Harry was one of the leading gamblers in those days later on he took out a bookies license but I don’t think he lasted too long.
His real name was Harry Torpey and he always carried an umbrella wet or fine.
He had a mournful look about him most of the time but was quite a character.
Damon Runyon would have loved him he would be the OZ version of “Sorrowful Jones” .

There was also betting on the shiftworkers’ league games at Hamilton on Sunday mornings.
One of our mates was a goalkicker but once the bookies saw how good he was we couldn't get set when he kicked for goals.


Manila is a card game that some of the ethnic  gamblers  especially the Greeks, Lebanese and  Italians  in  West End played.
I knew  there was a game somewhere but not its location as  I was never interested  in going  there which  was just as well as it would be raided occasionally.

This was well before the illegal casinos in the Valley.

Usually  details of the raid would make the Courier Mail with the names  and occupations of those arrested.

All would be released on bail usually a pound which most forfeited rather than facing Court.

Some gave their real names and  occupations  most put down labourer and  were  easily recognised  but  the more  cagey punters used fictitious ones.

During the winter racing carnival there would be lots of interstate visitors looking for a bit of action and  the police would carry out a raid every so often.

The CM wrote up the raid  with all the usual suspects names and occupations.

There was one notable entry I remember as one guy  gave his occupation as “horse trainer’s brother.”

That caused a bit of joviality at the time.  :lol:

I'm only guessing but I reckon I could  pick who it was in only two goes,both were from Sydney. :beer: 
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-15, 09:29 AM
Great read Arsenal.

No need to add that bit about Obi exaggerating...it's a given with most things he says.  :lol:
Back in my GMH days in Sydney there were over 1200 workers there with predominately new arivals,Greeks, Italians, South Americans and Asians making up the work force.  They all like to bet on the horses and Dogs as well as a profitable  football doubles operation.

One guy who had a bit of free reign as to his work area had a thriving SP operation . He was turning over Thousands of dollars each week . 
Wednesday was his big turnover day( only raced Wednesdays and Saturdays) and if overtime was offered for a Saturday he would always manage to get selected to do overtime.

He had a credit facilitiy and I remember plenty of times when some of the workers would be paid by the paymaster ( cash those days) and the SP operator would be there to take it back off them to settle up.

At the time this was probably happening in most work places until detected by officials.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-16, 09:17 AM
When I was working I suffered from migraines but the first time I had one I didn’t recognise it for what it was.
It was very strange, there was no pain only a loss of memory and impaired vision in my left eye .
I had been on the phone to a guy and when I got off I couldn’t remember  his name or what we talked about.
I couldn’t see properly either it was like I was looking through a set of louvres  with rain trickling down them.

I mentioned this to the guy in the office next to mine,the resident hypochondriac , and as quick as a flash he diagnosed the problem  as that I had  suffered a stroke.
I rang my GP  Dr.Ray Godwin at Holland Park and arranged an appointment after work.
When he examined me and I told him the story he reassured me it wasn’t a stroke I had my first ever migraine.

He prescribed some medication to take if I felt one coming on and something else to take if the headache took hold.
Very strange  experience that was .
A short time later I was able to remember the name of the guy I was talking to, (Sid McGrory) but nothing at all about the conversation.

One of my mates "Mr.Davis" I called him, not his real name just a joke between us, rang me late one afternoon to come to Redcliffe that night to see his  horse   “Bernie”  race.
That was his stable name after his breeder Bernie Kelly .

I couldn’t possibly I had a splitting migraine I said.........I can fix that....... he said .....and he talked me into going.

In due course he arrived to pick me up with Joe and Nick another couple of enthusiasts and we set off for Redcliffe.
He gave me a tablet to take as soon as I sat down  Mersyndol and it did the trick.
I slept most of the way and when we got out of the car the cool night air woke me up and there were no after effects.

Bernie  didn’t win but ran a place so it wasn’t a complete loss.
And I had found an effective treatment  for my migraines.
 
There was a catch though Mersyndol was a prohibited drug in Qld then but was freely available over the counter in NSW so my wife and I would drive to Tweed Heads and buy some.
Today  its available everywhere now over the counter.

Sometimes I get an attack at golf,lose vision in my left eye, but I find that half a Mersyndol is effective 10 or 15 minutes after taking it.
There’s a day time strength too but I stick to the one that works for me. :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Norton on 2011-Feb-16, 10:40 AM
Mersyndol is very effective for some migraine events   emthup  .  The newer version these days is Panadol Forte.  It is a mix of paracetamol and codeine for pain, except the Mersyndol has an antihistamine added and the latter can make the patient drowsy and help you better cope with the attack.  We used to use the pediatric version of Mersyndol on the kids when they had colic after a feed.  The pain of the colic was dulled by it and, hopefull, the antihistamine put them to sleep.

One day the baby had a particularly tough time with the colic and had screamed all day  :baby: .  Mrs Norton and I were going out that night so we held off with the treatment until about an hour befor the sitter was due.  Might double the dose to be sure  :bop: .

About ten minutes after the syrup went down the gullet, bub stopped crying and went to sleep  :sleep: .  Success.  We got dressed for the night out and waited for the sitter to arrive.  On tippie toe went went to the cot to check bub.  Silent, not moving.  Was he even breathing?  Hmmm.  A few prods with the finger got no response.  Prods turned to slaps and slaps turned to thumps.  Could have hung him up upside down and he would have stayed unconscious.  Whattha.  Gawd, had we killed him with the bloody stuff...surely not  :sad: .

A panic call  :bounce: to the Pediatrician, who was a mate, didn't help reduce the stress.  He was in the middle of dinner, and said he would call over in 30 minutes.  In the meantime we started looking up books on how to revive a dead baby etc.  Awful, irrational thoughts flashing through the mind.  Would we go to jail for manslaughter or murder?    The Dr arrived with stethoscope, took a look, giggled and said nothing to worry about.  Turns out that the kid was simply exhausted from crying all day, and the Mersyndol had removed the pain and simply put him to sleep.  Arrrrrrrrrrh.  Bloody kids  :excited: .

Too stressed now to go out, we sent the sitter packing and hit the bundy as parents are prone to do.  No migraine though.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-16, 05:39 PM
I've had Panadol Forte Norton  only after surgery............very effective pain killer..........but constipation follows in my case. :tears:

It's Mersyndol every time for me. :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-16, 06:59 PM
My gut can't tolerate anything stronger than a xxxx Gold.

I remember taking a phernegan(spelling) from my son once for my hayfever....slept for two days.  :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-17, 08:09 AM
There were many good trainers in the late 50’s and after. 
Fred Best was leading trainer for ages,Dick Roden,George Benn,George Boland,Athol Strong,Bob Glover,Jim Griffiths,Con Doyle all had strong teams and their horses  generally raced well.

George Boland was a very brave man and had part of his hand blown off by  trying to defuse a bomb thrown by a lunatic Karl Kast  in a Wickham Terrace specialist’s rooms one day.
He was awarded a medal for his bravery which he accepted with his customary modesty.

George trained Coniston a top horse but  Royal Puff was one of my favourites, it was a front runner and would open up a big lead which broke the oppositions hearts trying to catch him.
He was as honest as the day is long.

He had lots of better horses but one plain looking mare named TAGUAN  gave me a nice windfall one day at Eagle Farm.
She was fairly small with a blaze which was the only noticeable thing  about her apart from the colours which stood out ,red and white quarters.

It missed the start hopelessly one day at Eagle Farm and came from tailed off to finish in the pack.
 
Probably the only reason I noticed it was that I hadn’t backed anything in the race and wasn’t distracted   from watching the race objectively.

Be on me next time I thought.
 
And I was right although most must have missed seeing it, as I got 40/1.
 
It didn’t miss the start this time and won well to my great delight.

There were numerous winners  from the Boland  stable over the years ,Tod Maid, Bon Glance I remember ,and  one that won a Brisbane Cup Galleon King.

Fred  Marsland  rode many winners  for the stable and he had a good apprentice David Hetherington also riding winners.

Trevor  Boland,George’s  son ,tried training after his father died but didn’t last for whatever reason.

Racing was much stronger then than it is today even though there were no TAB's or TVN.........going to the races was the thing to do :clap2:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-17, 05:33 PM
Had a former pro golfer as a partner yesterday........he is  now on a handicap of 3 ........hits the ball a mile...... straight as a die...... but no birdies and he had a chance on 16 holes. :o

I wouldn't complain if I was up the middle all day and making pars.............instead of  more bogies and washes.  :biggrin:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-18, 08:33 PM
When we were married  and on holidays in Sydney we went to Canterbury races  mid week and lining up at the turnstiles Vince Markey  who was a good  Brisbane trainer  came up and gave me two tickets so we were in front already.

He didn’t know us from Adam but I went to the same school as his son Cec who grew up to be a jockey.

Unfortunately Cecil Markey  died after a race fall while still a teenager.

I was amazed at the strength of the ring that day.

I saw a guy backing a horse in the last race all around the ring at 33/1 and the bookies never altered its price taking thousand dollar bets.

It got beaten that day but where there's smoke there's fire I thought.

  I was on it next time when it won at 16/1.

It was Sovereign Yacht a nice looking grey colt which   turned out a very handy horse winning one of the big three year old group races that year.

It’s funny sitting here thinking about some of the winners I backed but don’t remember the losers.  :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-21, 09:07 AM
I've never had a lot of luck with quadrellas.............trebles were a lot easier for me although the strike rate there wasn't too flash either......but now and then I would strike it lucky.

When the TAB introduced the First4 it was only one race a day........usually the last in Sydney if my memory is right.

The best win I ever had was getting the First Four and the Trifecta one day in the last in Sydney.

I was on holidays and had come home from Bundamba early as it was stinking hot in the middle of January.

I jumped in the pool to cool down and was sitting at the kitchen table looking through the race book form guide.

After a bit of study I thought there were only 5 chances in the last.

I rang my mate "Mr.Davis"  to see if he would go halves with me in a boxed first four and trifecta.

He was happy so I toddled up to the Greenslopes Tab and put the bets on.

They ran  one two three four five.

The dividend flashed up at $12k odd but was changed when the third and fourth placings were reversed after the caller got it wrong.

We got $10K odd and  $600 + for the trifecta.

All I can remember is the winner was number 17 trained by T J Smith and ridden by Shane Dye.

It had a short name Lada or something similar.

I put  some of my share of the winnings into getting our car air conditioned and my wife was very happy about that. :no1:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: monologue on 2011-Feb-21, 09:30 AM
Some days are diamonds,some days are shitehouse.

If only those FF were that easy...I reckon I'm the champ for having 1st,2nd,4th in the trifectas and 1st,2nd,3rd and 5th in the FF. :rant:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-21, 07:32 PM
Driving down the highway to Carbrook this morning with the radio for company I heard Madonna King on ABC radio talking about the new community health system that Joolya has sold the states.

We had something similar 50 years ago and it didn’t work then.

MK interviewed the Secretary of the Nurses Union and the President of the AMA and in the process mentioned the change in Health ministers in Qld  from Lucas to Wilson commenting that serving as Health minister “took a bit of gloss off them”.

I reckon she should have added  “that is  if they had any gloss to begin with.”

As an old golfing acquaintance  of mine frequently points out .”You can’t lose it(ability) if you've never had it.”

Speaking of the the Nurses Union reminds me that  in my day  it was known as the Royal Australian Nursing Federation and was presided over by a middle aged spinster who was popularly  known  as “Old Bromide”
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2011-Feb-21, 07:46 PM

We had something similar 50 years ago and it didn’t work then.


Good point. We had a Liberal government and it didn't work then either.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-22, 04:57 PM
Fred Daly was a MP in the Federal Parliament for 32 years and on retirement wrote a book "The Politician Who Laughed"

It's full of anecdotes about people he met and situations which arose during his parliamentary career.

Whenever I feel like a good laugh I get it out........and it never fails to entertain. :thumbsup:

I only met him once in 1986 .......that's when I acquired his book at an auction in support of a mate's fundraising campaign, and he was a treat to listen to. :clap2:

A wicked  sense of humour and a marvellous memory........he kept the audience entertained all night long.

The good humour that Fred Daly and Jim Killen fired at each other all those years ago has died with them. :whistle:

Politics  today doesn't have that sense of fun that Fred Daly wrote about..........mostly they're a dull boring bunch with no capacity to score points with a quick witted interjection or point of order. :shy:

This extract from the book,although from a time long ago sums it up very well imo.........

"On another occasion when a member interjected while Calwell was speaking ,he paused and said,'Look my friend ,you were born dull and you've been losing ground steadily ever since'."

In the final entry from Fred's book he refers to Jim Killen's writing in a  political column.
 
"Jim Killen,among his many other pursuits,at one time wrote a political column in a leading newspaper.On one occasion he took to task the Whitlam Government,and myself,as the Minister in Charge of Electoral affairs,over proposed legislation in this field.He had these scathing and far from complimentary remarks to make on my abilities;  
 "Mr.Daly is a most accomplished politician----that is a simple personal conclusion reached after nearly twenty years of thoroughly enjoyable political conflict with him.
Companionable ,Mr.Daly most certainly is .Genial.Of course.Uncomplaining about political blows and barbs------well,an outstanding example.
But behind that cheerful,engaging countenance there lurks a vigorous regard for that vital ingredient in wielding political power------numbers."
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: arthur on 2011-Feb-23, 03:37 PM
Two politicians were driving along a country road, on one of those 'fact finding' missions . . when they became hopelessly lost

They came across a farmer, and stopped the car to get directions

"Excuse me good sir,' the driver called.  " Where exactly are we?"

"Yer in ya car," replied the farmer

"What a great political answer!!" said the first polly to his friend

"He's told us the complete truth . . he's answered our question . . he's told us nothing we didn't know already . . and . . wer'e none the wiser!!"
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-23, 07:13 PM
Good one arthur :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-23, 07:22 PM
Another short extract from Fred Daly's book it............ concerns the well known member for East Sydney,Eddie Ward,known as a "Firebrand"

On one occasion he was asked by the Speaker to bow low and apologise.

Ward bowed to the Speaker and said " I apologise."

Speaker Cameron said ,"You haven't bowed low enough."

Ward said"How low do you want me to bow?"

Cameron replied,"How low can you get?"


On the same lines as Bart's episode with the Health Inspector "You've got too many flies Mr.Cummings"

Bart replied "How many am I allowed to have?"   :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-24, 09:05 AM
More from Fred Daly................who recalls describing another member as "a worn out old tomcat"at a time when few members were present in the Chamber.

"Later in the evening when Parliament was on the air and in the days before TV there was a very large listening audience.

The member Winton Turnbull got to his feet and said that during the afternoon he had been called "a worn out old tom cat",and demanded an apology.

A voice interjected,"What do you object to,....................the "worn out" or................. the "old tomcat"?"

Fred says"The moral of the story was that by raising the subject during prime time on air he had brought it to the attention of a huge audience when it could have passed virtually unnoticed."


It's like a glutton at a smorgasbord with Fred's book...................it's hard to know where to start...................or finish.    :lol:   
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-24, 10:12 AM
Over the years I was a bit player in a number of well planned betting coups helping to put the money on and  we collected every time.

There is one notable exception, but that was a trotting race some years later at Rocklea  which I’ll deal with separately.

I was very discreet and still am so I won’t mention  any names although in some cases the main players have cashed in their chips long ago.

There was only one really big priced go, the others were good odds all under 10/1  but this one was cricket score odds.

I was dispatched  to the Leger while the main money went on in the paddock.

The horse had come from NZ and wintered in Brisbane before going to NSW for this race.

I didn’t know anything about it ...............................but I knew the trainer and had a very good opinion of him .............but that was years ago,  when he had a reasonable team.

At this stage  he was fairly old and had only one or two to help keep the wolf from the door.

The horse opened at 33/1 and kept blowing  at every call starting at 100/1 at the track.

I averaged 40’s but the guys in the paddock had an outsider to contend with who was also backing the horse which took the cream off. 

Everytime the call came over they had to contend with this other punter  trying  to get on ahead of them.
 
It  turned out that on the morning of the race the trainer had phoned the old battler  trainer whose stables he was at when up here  to  tell him to have something on  it but  to keep it to himself.

The old guy he told  couldn’t resist getting a quid for himself and got a  well known punter to back it for him and the good turn backfired on the connections.

I never heard of the horse again apart from knowing it changed stables.


Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: arthur on 2011-Feb-24, 01:36 PM
AS it does . .



Battling trainer brought a good horse from  the west to the coast and a western bookie came with him. The bookie was to 'push' the odds, and the com. would be placed with the

others.

Unbeknowns to bookmaker A. a local bookmaker had 'lead' for the same horse and for the modus operandi

When the horses were on the track, and it was too late to change any plans . .

Bookie B. began to 'push' as well only to be trumped by Bookie A. who was probably at very good terms with himself

Then quick as a flash and before the com. went on B.'s 'runner' claimed A. for the limit . . . and B. just as quickly reduced the horse's price to 'nothing'

The other fielders, observing what went on, followed suit

The western trainer got nothing but prize-money ( the horse bolted in) . . and the western bookie learned a bit about life in the city, where things move a little more swiftly than

they do in the bush


Alas  :tears: those days are gone :sad:

 

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-24, 07:18 PM
Yes arthur they were the days.........no colour much now..........not like it was. :sad:

I was talking to an ex bookie who used to work at the trots at AP in the old days.

He said the steward pointed to him and two others and said "You ,you & you ..........into the stewards' room after the last."

"WTF they want us for ?" said he to the others........"Probably cause we're betting over the odds." was the reply.  :lol:

They  found out the problem was  not having their  boards set .
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-25, 07:10 AM
I had always aimed to own a racehorse but it never happened.
When I was working in the MRD a few of us had an idea of getting a horse to race as one of my workmates was friendly with Wally Douglas and he was going to train the horse for us.
Wally was a very good trainer.He had lots of winners when based at Deagon.
I think his father Jim Douglas was also a  pretty good trainer in the early days........he stood out from the crowd .........used to wear a Pith helmet.

Wally  once had a big team but had scaled down to one or two horses by this and was driving a taxi and training out of Eagle Farm.
He used to get frustrated when he couldn't get his horses worked and he would have to take them home.
They(the riders) just laugh at you he would say.
 
We were offered one to lease and went down to Deagon to inspect it.
When we arrived at the stables the trainer told us it was in a yard "over there".
When we walked "over there" the horse was nowhere to be seen ...it was so small its' head didn't come up to the rails.
So that was that....no racehorse.
But I did eventually get into ownership of some pacers.
You got more bang for your buck.........in those days.
Although prizemoney was a lot less than at the races, training fees were much cheaper and pacers raced more often,sometimes twice a week,racehorses couldn't handle that.

I had been to Rocklea occasionally before night trotting started in Brisbane in 1968 but usually only when the races were washed out.
In those days Rocklea was a thriving business wall to wall bookies in a massive covered rectangular shed probably 50 yards or so long and 20+ wide.
The track was shellgrit or granite and it raced in all weather.
On wet days the covered betting ring would be packed with punters and the bookies were flat out.
Most punters where there to bet on the races although there were the diehard trotting followers whose sole interest was  on the trotting track, a tight circuit of some 560 metres.

It took the race clubs a long time to wake up that punters wanted covered betting rings.
Once night trotting started I was hooked.........as were many others whose only previous exposure to the sport was at local shows or more likely the Exhibition at the RNA showgrounds.

I joined the Metropolitan Harness Racing Club, Rocklea  in  1969 and was elected to the committee in 1974 after the devastating Ipswich and Brisbane floods.
I never missed a meeting apart from the time I was in hospital in Sydney in 1985.
I always went to the races on Stradbroke day usually after attending Rocklea for the early races then off to Eagle Farm in time for the big one.

Over the years I owned, leased and raced quite a few pacers although no more than two or three at any one time.
To begin with three of us formed a Syndicate which as it turned out was the first to be registered with the TCB.
I remember being interviewed by Darryl Kayes and completing the paper work in the dingy little offices the TCB had in Ann St. the Valley.
The Syndicate was The Union Syndicate,with a whole 3 members.
We had our own colours Orange black stars white cap although we bought a white skull cap, in practice it was never used,as  the drivers liked their own.
The first pacer we leased  was a 3yo gelding  by Gay Reveller,Reveller Eden was its' name.
It had won one race before he came to us but was a knee knocker and our trainer couldn’t get it off its knee.

Spreaders, rubber bike tubes wrapped around the shafts and under the front legs to stop the horse striking its' knees, weren’t allowed then and the only remedy was corrective shoeing.
He was leased from Noel Simpson probably the biggest owner in harness racing, he had horses everywhere even had a racehorse with the late Bruce McLachlan in Brisbane.
When we decided to sack him Noel  Simpson said to put him in a sale where he was bought for $100 by a hobby trainer who eventually won a couple of races with him.
We were lucky we cut our losses.

But gluttons for punishment we wanted to maintain an ownership interest and soon secured another hayburner,and a few others until we found one that had some ability.
More to come. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-27, 09:45 PM
Nearly backed a winner on Saturday for sentimental reasons ..........but head won over heart and I let it go. :tears:

Wabeel was the horse...........but it was her colours that caught my eye.........White,Pink Sash & Cap...........nothing special about them. :/

Apart from the fact that these were original colours of Jim Douglas champion trainer post war..........and later used by Gordon Williams who I think trained out of the old Douglas stables at Deagon. :thumbsup:

When living at West End and later at Highgate Hill my local garage was in Melbourne St. opposite the former Tristrams soft drink factory.

The garage was run by the Craitem family,Jimmy, his brother and two sisters.

They were keen racing people and always made me welcome. :thumbsup:

In the house up stairs there were a few racing photos.................one of ATTENTION..............in the name of Alma Craitem..............the silks were White,Pink Sash & Cap :no1:

Don't remember the trainer but Attention was a good creeker and probably on the grass too. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Feb-28, 09:49 PM
Played at Gailes today up towards Ipswich west of the City......very hot day not conducive to good scores.........in my group. :whistle:

There's a memorial on the last tee at the foot of a giant gum for Brian Kent who died in 1997.

Brian was our Auditor and owned a horse or two and was on the Committee of Beaudesert where he had his business.

I remember the day he died it was at a vets golf day at Keperra,a heart attack.

A very decent guy Brian Kent..........died too young.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-02, 07:25 PM
[attachimg=#]Our first winner after paying up for a year or more with several slow coaches we finally got a winner.

Ball Point at Gold Coast the old Stephens Paceway in August 1971.

She won a  Combined Advanced Stakes 24/23 class over 10 and 3/4 furlongs rating 2.11

Pic is Ball Point returning to scale Driver Brian Fernley.

In those days Gold Coast raced in opposition to Albion Park on Saturday nights.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-02, 09:13 PM
Ball Point was  a beautiful chestnut mare as kind and as placid as anyone could wish for.

She was owned by Charlie Dickson from the Red Shadow Stud at Canowindra and was from a very strong family being by Lawn Raider x Nelia Lass. Set Point Counter Point and Match Point were closely related.

Ball Point was very honest but unlucky but  when she finally drew a decent alley one Saturday night on the old Stephens Paceway at Southport she came up trumps and at the good odds of 8/1.
That was her one and only win for us.

Unfortunately one day at track work there was an accident,when  the gig wheel somehow hit a post  on the rail breaking the trace with the result the gig was trailing behind as she galloped driverless  in  panic  and  in the process she severerd  a flexor tendon on the sharp metal shaft.

Although given prompt veterinary attention the wound turned gangrenous and she had to be put down.

The trainer was broken up and had to explain what happened to the distraught owner who had lost a potentially valuable brood mare.

Fortunately he never thought of suing anyone.

Our trainer then was working for Ron Pointer and Brian Brockhurst on their farm at Dayboro.

They started out with a few local castoffs before striking it rich with some good NZ breds Egmont Inanga and Pleasant Hanover were two I remember.

They were top people sadly Ron Pointer died well before his time but his wife Helen is still alive and part owns Blacks A Fake.

Mark Litchwark joined the team after coming from NZ and he had a successful career before retiring  a year or so ago for a quiet life with his wife Sue.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-03, 12:19 PM
We had another unraced filly at the time also leased from Red Shadow,she was a great type but very flighty.
Her first run was at Rocklea in shocking conditions.
Heavy rain forced the cancellation of Brisbane races and there was a big crowd at the trots including a reporter and camera man from the Sunday Truth.

The track was a bog,she galloped away and finished tailed off.
The Sunday Truth  guy wrote a story rubbishing her big time, maybe he did his dough as he did concede she was the pick of them in appearance.
We were very dirty.
It's the old story never rubbish someone's horse.

Next time out at the  old Toowoomba showgrounds track she showed more ability by leading all the way.
She won a few more  provincial races at day meetings Rocklea and Ipswich  but wasn’t very reliable and we returned her when our lease expired.
She was put to stud but never threw anything of any account.
[attachimg=#] This is one she won at the old Ipswich Showgrounds track coming off 20m
You can see from the pic that she was all quality....in the looks dept.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-04, 07:15 PM
Rain rain go away come again another day........doesn't look promising for EF tomorrow. :whistle:

Pity Rocklea was closed down by the brainstrust at the QHRB :thumbsd:


[attachimg=#]Rocklea betting ring .....a section of....in the good old days. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-06, 10:20 PM
Played golf today  in a very strong wind...................but I hit the ball really well. :shy:

Pitching OK too  but stuffed up 2 holes washed them, both....... finished with 41 pts (23+18) :thumbsup:

Best game I've had for ages and was the clubhouse leader almost to the finish..................until Mr.43 pts landed and took the prize.  :tears:

Off to Indooroopilly tomorrow big grudge match for money..................against a couple of toughs....................hope the luck continues. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-07, 07:30 PM
Amazing recovery Indooroopilly ..........inundated in the recent floods and sections still being restored.........but the course for the most part was very good. :no1:

Unfortunately I was  a one hit wonder today............played well below Sunday's effort.........but there are excuses. :whistle:

Had intermittent niggles in the back.........took a couple of pain killers .............which did the job eventually.........and no pain since returning home. :thumbsup:

 Although handicapped by injury ...................my partner was  in sparkling form............and we combined to win the match 3/2. :no1:

For non golfers we were 3 holes up with only 2 to play. :clap2:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-08, 07:29 PM
In the good old days at Rocklea...........casual attire universally adopted.,even by the well to do :no1:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-10, 07:38 AM
Had another good day at the "office" yesterday finished runners up in a 4BB with 49 pts................but the CM results said 48 so they must have deducted one. :whistle:

The winners racked up 54 pts which is an excellent score so I think we were lucky to run a distant second on a high scoring day. :thumbsup:

My partner was a young guy 30.yo  had an RDO from his job as a sparky,hits the ball a mile,and very good to play with. :clap2:

It's nice to be back in form after a looooong run of outs. :beer:
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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Mar-10, 08:11 AM
Seen that in the paper.

Keep up the good work at the office  emthup
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-10, 02:29 PM
Seen that in the paper.

Keep up the good work at the office   emthup  

Thanks Mate :beer:
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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Mar-10, 03:10 PM
Your sometime golf partner rang me this morning and is coming down with some sort of a flu so make sure he doesn't spread it around the club  :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-10, 03:58 PM
Your sometime golf partner rang me this morning and is coming down with some sort of a flu so make sure he doesn't spread it around the club   :biggrin:  
Yes Gratlog I noticed..........he was very croakey yesty......Leslie will look after him :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-10, 04:03 PM
There’s been some drama at the Golf Club recently.......... a couple of guys got into holts reportedly half full  one night after golf  a couple of weeks ago  and did serious damage to one another......... this took place in the toilets of all places.
The ambulance transported one maybe both to hospital and a Report on the incident is before the Board.
The Club has  rules dealing with conduct issues  which have  been enforced previously when members have been deemed to have stepped over the line. :boxing:

Lots of rumours floating about who did what to whom this time  and both of those involved are  no doubt awaiting what befalls them with some anxiety according to the grapevine.
They could be liable for suspension or in the extreme termination of membership. 
Members are also waiting to see what decision is made although as far as I know any disciplinary action in the past hasn’t been  announced  or reported to the members.
We rely on the grapevine to do the job. :rolleyes:

One guy I play with at the Vets told me he was sent out for three months once for biffing someone and another I know got 12 months on the sidelines for head butting  someone he thought deserved it. :sad:

Not so long ago one of the females,now known as Lady members instead of Associates  got sent off after a couple of incidents in the clubhouse for unbecoming behaviour.
The first incident  allegedly involved her exposing her chest in public  and the straw that broke the camel’s back was when she physically assaulted a couple of gentlemen neither of whom wish to discuss what motivated her. :shutup:

Some years back I picked up the Sunday paper to read a story about one member being “kidnapped at golf”.
Turns out he was a financial adviser and two of his clients weren’t too happy about where his advice had taken them.
So they hatched a plan to kidnap him in the vain attempt to get their money back. :o

They weren’t too bright though, as things turned out, after bundling the guy into the back of their panel van they drove off and decided to stop at Maccas for a meal, leaving the van unattended.
The kidnappee wasn’t waiting when they returned...he had escaped and hot footed it to the Police who caught the two kidnappers without raising a sweat.
They went to Court in due course and got time in Chokey to think how/whether  they could get their money back lawfully. :whistle:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-14, 08:47 PM
When I was on the Committee at Rocklea the (Metropolitan Harness Racing Club) now defunct thanks to the former QHRB..........we had a threat of a strike which we wanted to avoid.

All the race day staff were casuals employed under The Racecourse and Showgrounds Employees Award administered by the AWU.

None of our workers (apart from one)were members of the union they were all retired mostly  old age pensioners and only worked on Saturdays to get a bit extra.

The sole union member Norm Pringle wasn't a bad old guy but he got a bee in his bonnet over something one day and called in the local AWU organiser.

One thing led to another and Norm threatened to use his influence with the union to black ban the joint unless all the workers joined the AWU.

Naturally this didn't go down very well with the workers or the Club.

The workers were happy the way they were and didn't feel they should join a union and pay full fees for working one day a week.

The Club was the ham in the sandwich so to speak........the solution was the Club agreed to pay a sum of money to the AWU on behalf of the staff ......and everyone was happy.

I think we only made the one payment..........everyone forgot about it the following year.
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Post by: monologue on 2011-Mar-15, 08:26 AM
the solution was the Club agreed to pay a sum of money to the AWU on behalf of the staff ......and everyone was happy.

Hopefully it wasn't paid via  a brown paper bag :shy:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-15, 02:47 PM
the solution was the Club agreed to pay a sum of money to the AWU on behalf of the staff ......and everyone was happy.

Hopefully it wasn't paid via  a brown paper bag :shy:

No Mono all up front .........signed sealed and delivered.............it was a forerunner to  fringe benefits now commonly available.........we were trailblazers.........but didn't know it then .  :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-15, 02:59 PM
I'm feeling very relieved today.......just back from 6 months check up with the dentist........always glad when it's over. :thumbsup:

I've been going to the same dental practice for 50 years.........since moving from West End to Highgate Hill in 1961.

The original dentist Leo J Stellmach retired over 10 years ago and sold to Bill Morris who operates just across the road from Leo's old place on Gladstone Rd.

Bill Morris is the best dentist I've ever had.........I don't even feel the needle.........it's almost a pleasure going there. :no1:

Before today's appointment I had my Flu injection..........didn't feel a thing.........this lady doc is also very gentle.  :noteworthy:

The one thing I hate is the needle...........most other treatments aren't a concern........don't understand how addicts can inject themselves........I couldn't do it. :stop:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-17, 05:58 PM
Getting back to basics...........harness racing in the 1970's was very popular following the introduction of night trotting at Albion Park.

This brought  lots of new faces to the trots ........new owners wanted to get in on the action and bought or leased a horse.

Prizemoney at that time wasn't much good the open class at AP was worth $740 to the winner while the Qualies got $575.

Over at Rocklea races were worth about $240.....Redcliffe $189...Gold Coast $180.......Ipswich $100....all day meetings in 1969.

Our next horse was Big City which we leased from Bill Rynan who was President of the NSWTC and a terrific nice guy.

He was a poultry farmer and lived in Gladesville in NSW.

Kevin Bayley was his trainer and I remember him having a very good 2yo John Oliver which the Inghams bought off him for big money.

Big City was a good interest for us, very reliable although no world beater.


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Get in the Queue  :thumbsup:

 This him winning at Rocklea in March 1972

He won about 10 races for us at Rocklea,Toowoomba and about  six  at the Ipswich showgrounds if my memory is right and was placed at the Coast in open class .

He went from a 28 class to open company and  was a lot of fun

One day  at Ipswich a used car salesman knocked off our price and we didn’t get set.

It was the only time that happened to us,most punters waited for a lead and were happy to be on even at a shorter price once they saw the money was on .

As luck would have it Big City  ran second and we saved our money.

When he reached his mark Bill Rynan asked me to find a buyer and he was sold  to a policeman in Innisfail where he continued to pay his way.

After that the syndicate had all but disintegrated and I  was on my own.




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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-17, 07:42 PM
After that  I went to Sydney to a  harness horse sale at the Sydney showgrounds looking to buy  an untried one  to race with my wife.

Going through the catalogue I took a fancy to an unraced 2yo out of Negro Ballerina who was related to a winning family that was successful for  Bernie Wilson a local trainer we were friendly with .

He was a plain looking bay gelding when I saw him but he checked out OK to my inexperienced eye.

He had a kind eye ,a deep gullet and no blemishes that I could see.

When he was parading one guy on the sidelines,Bobby Allen , a well known trainer/driver  at the time,  told all and sundry he was the best young pacer at Fairfield.

Thanks a lot Bobby I thought.......this'll send the price up.

I found out later that Colin Watts had had him in work  but never took him to the races.

Colin Watts was a very good trainer as was his father J.D.Watts a legendary figure in the early days of trotting in NSW.

There wasn’t much interest  from the bidders , despite the big wrap from the bleachers, and he was knocked down to me for $450.

I arranged for float transport paid the bill and left to find a cab to the airport .

As  I was leaving the showgrounds I ran into a trainer  I knew  from out Riverstone way  who offered me a lift  part of the way in his float.

This was shift change over time for taxis and there were no cabs around so I accepted his offer.

He dropped me off in the middle of Redfern of all places and there wasn’t a cab in sight.

As I trudged along the unfamiliar streets hoping to hail a cab to get to the airport in time for my flight, I passed a hotel which by the sound of things was  full of drunken brawlers.

Fortunately for me their arguments were confined to the Bar and didn’t spill out  on to the street.

As soon as I saw a cab I hailed it and made it to the airport in time without further incident. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-24, 08:17 PM
Taking up from where I left off.........

When the horse arrived home  we put him into work  but  found that he cross fired.

 He had been well broken in and  was  so quiet and placid I named him Aggressive  but in the stable he was just called Jim.

I always took carrots to treat the horses  when  ever they raced or I visited the trainer’s stables and when I offered some to Jim he just sniffed but wouldn’t take them from me.

Probably never had them before but he soon realised what he was missing  and  developed a taste for them.

I leased him out to Pat Burke  a guy I knew  from when we were kids racing bikes in the BJACC 40 years beforehand.
 
 Pat was training from Kevin Seymour’s farm at Samford  but  he had  no joy from the 6 starts he gave him.

In fact he finished nearer last than first in all his runs.

When he sacked him another young couple asked to lease him which suited me at the time.
 
In his next season he had only 4 runs for a third at Rocklea returning $40.

When that lease  expired I put him into work with Arthur Sugden at Rosewood who got him going really well.

First up he broke his duck  on 28 August 1976  at Ipswich and I got something back , although the race was worth only  $220 all up.

Aggressive won at Ipswich,Rocklea and the Gold Coast and was as tough as teak, loved the death seat and was easy to handle although he could be a bit risky from stands.

One day when he was due to race at Rocklea, on the morning of the race,  the trainer found he had cut  one eye  lid on something in the stable overnight.

At the time he was stabled at the Rosewood showgrounds as the trainer didn’t have stables where he lived

When the trainer saw the injury in the morning  when he went to feed and work the horses  he realised  it was too late for stitches.

He told me he would use an old bush remedy by  rubbing  some  grounded sugar on the wound to fix it.

When I saw him next you couldn’t  notice the injured eye lid.

The old time remedys  worked, trotting trainers knew a thing or two...they had to there wasn’t much money for vets. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-25, 07:23 AM
Aggressive won the first race one night at the old Stephens Paceway at the Gold Coast sitting in the death over 2460 m from a standing start .

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Aggressive is partly obscured he's on the rails :no1:
Although the win was unexpected I was happy to see him win in that company.

We were  very lucky to be there as while driving to the track  this maniac went  flying through an intersection without stopping at a  red light almost wiping us out.

That near catastrophe  gave me a splitting headache as my wife and three of our young daughters  were in the car and  we were all  very shaken and  upset.

The win was a welcome change of luck although financially there wasn't much in it .

The horse was drawn badly and meeting a fair field so I only had a small just for luck bet at 33/1.

He sat wide all the way and won in a photo.

After the race Arthur  said he put his wheel in front of the second horse so that wherever it went he was going too and would  get there ahead of it .

He knew a thing or two and nothing was said by the second driver.

He was  probably too busy flogging his horse which was the favourite to notice.

One of the earliest lessons I learned in trotting was a few words of wisdom from the  wife  of a trainer I knew, she  said “you have to try all the time but occasionally you can put your money on.”

That was good advice .

There were a few occasions when  we didn’t fancy our chances and didn’t  bet but were wrong only 3 or 4 times when one got up  at good odds without us being on it.

A couple of  Arthur’s other clients Max and Graham  were pestering  me to sell Aggressive to them and I eventually agreed.

I don’t remember the sale price but there was a contingency payable from his first win and that was received in due course.

Graham is still around.......has a high profile job in sports administration but I haven't seen or heard of Max for years.

I was friends with one of his brothers who was a trotting man and a very decent guy.

One day I ran into him walking down Elizabeth St past the Union office and he told me he was going to the Social Security to get a job.

He was going bad on the punt...........had a breakup with the woman he loved and was pretty depressed.

So I took him back to the office and got him a job interview with one of the public service departments and he started work the following Monday.

After he had been working there for a while  I got a phone call from the guy who gave him the job.......he wanted to know if I knew any others like him looking for work...as he was one of the best workers in the place. :thumbsup:



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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Mar-25, 07:38 PM
Great story Arsenal---I have a happy story to tell in similar lines on my blog--give me a few days--too much footy and racing going on    :lol:

 8-)
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-26, 11:19 AM
Great story Arsenal---I have a happy story to tell in similar lines on my blog--give me a few days--too much footy and racing going on     :lol:  

 8-)

I'll be on it Chuggers :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-26, 06:22 PM
This pic is when he won at good odds one day at Rocklea.

Des Weeks is the driver A A Sugden couldn't make it and I got one of the best ever at Rocklea to replace him.

The horse partly obscured is Reckless Ron driven by Keith Wanless in his dad's blue and yellow colours worn on Lucky Creed possibly the best horse to race at Rocklea. :no1:

I had to go into the room before the stewards they wanted to know "who was in charge of the horse?" seeing AAS was unavoidedly absent. :whistle:

Aggressive was the only horse I had which I used the trainer's colours..............thought it might be lucky.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-29, 05:51 PM
One of my grandsons who'll be 17 soon  is off to Argentina on a school excursion to play Rugby in two weeks time.

There are 35 boys from St.Laurence's making the two week trip and the cost for each is around $5000 payable by their parents.

Jake is learning to drive and his parents gave him the choice of a second hand car........or the Argentina trip.

I reckon he made the right decision.  :no1:



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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-30, 05:29 PM
I bought a maiden  4yo  over the phone, sight unseen from a bloodstock company  in Sydney on the premise that it went ok and could run 2.10 which was good enough for Rocklea in those days.

We soon found out he couldn’t run 2.10 even being towed in the horse float but he was foolproof so we set him for a race at Ipswich.

Arthur Sugden was injured but we were able to get an experienced replacement who as luck would have it was at Ipswich that day  a place he didn’t usually attend.

When I booked him to drive the horse the first question he asked was”Are we Trying?” ...”too right” , I said, ......”going for our lives.”

The bookies bet 5/1 he started a hot favourite around 6/4 ..............they all backed it.

In hindsight I reckon it was a one goer but nothing to do with us.

Trainers and drivers always talked to each other and this was a new horse starting first up  at the track they would have asked our driver what he was doing.

I reckon our guy,who would  most likely embellish things, probably told them........." this thing can go......... it’s from Sydney and they’re going to back it."

That would have been good enough for the locals to save their own runners for another day and bet up on ours.

Just as well they did  as he was pretty weak but OK in front.

He stepped in front leading all the way and  won clearly.

We got out of him soon after selling him up north where he was better suited.

Some years later I was in Cairns and saw him race one Saturday night at Cairns Paceway .

I introduced myself to his owner/trainer who had a bit of fun with the horse although he was no world beater even in the north.

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Post by: arthur on 2011-Mar-31, 10:16 AM

even in the north.

Excuse me??  :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-31, 05:21 PM
Excuse me??  :o

That's how it was in those days Arthur....................horses on their mark in Brisbane could pay their way up there. :thumbsup:

The same in Brisbane ..................Sydney castoffs were in big demand.  emthup

Cairns was a nice set up but it's been closed for years...................just like Townsville,Innisfail,Charters Towers they're all long gone. :stop:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Mar-31, 07:21 PM
It's about time I introduced "Mr.Davis" to the Forum............although unfortunately he's no longer with us to enjoy the occasion.

Mr.Davis” was a very good mate I met through trotting.He was a few years senior to me and a lot wiser.

He  had owned quite a few handy horses in his time,including  a galloper that won a Chinchilla Cup and a Saturday race at Bundamba, Quite Likely was its name.

I was at  Warrigul one night when his trotter driven by Ted Demmler won a race.

I can't remember it's name but it was a pretty fair horse.

As there were no trotting races in Qld in those days the horse never left Victoria.

He also had horses in NSW ,Air Chase was one I remember trained and driven by current Qld trainer Howard Wilson who was a very good judge according to my mate.

I met him  for the first time at Albion Park  through a mutual friend’s introduction and we hit it off straight away.

We had lots of good times at the trots in the old Albion Park days and one night we had a nice win on one of his horses at the Gold Coast at 33/1.

Unfortunately he suffered ill health in his old age and passed away in 1999.

His wife and my wife still keep in touch.

"Mr.Davis" got his name as a joke between us after he was introduced to a fellow of that name by legendary trotting trainer and driver the late Ned Coleman.

After the intros were over Ned confided to my mate that Mr.Davis (the original)......”could fight like a thrashing machine.”

Why he mentioned that remains a mystery, but we had a joke about it and from then on I called him "Mr.Davis."

We would go to the races  as well as the trots and his  galloping  trainer Tom Reid  from Chinchilla would always visit when in Brisbane.
 
A couple of times when he was down we went to the Gabba dogs for a night out not knowing anything about the form and if Tom had a horse racing in town Mr.Davis would be one of the first in the gate.

Tom  brought Game  Zephyr down to Eagle Farm this day and gave it a good chance.

I couldn’t have it as it was top weight with no recent  form but that didn’t stop it from winning  at 33/1.

Mr.Davis stuck to his guns and had a nice win.

The horse was owned by Con Allen who had a drapery shop in Chinchilla.

Con passed away a few months ago.

Tom Reid is retired now but still lives in Chinchilla as far as I know.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-05, 07:38 PM
When I joined the MHRC Rocklea I went along to the AGM......the first one I was eligible for.

The meeting was held in The Mumford Hall in the showgrounds ..it was an old syle building with a stage and was used for functions and occasional dances.

The building isn’t there any more probably a victim of the 1974 floods.

Walter Mumford was a local identity who apparently was a great benefactor to the Rocklea Show Society which owned the freehold showgrounds after it was gifted to them  by Mr.Mumford.

This first AGM was an eye opener,there was a ticket for the election of the Committee and there was a move to dump one existing member and replace him with the chosen one.

Naturally I had been approached by the President lobbying to follow the ticket and not knowing any better I followed the party line.

The old guy was dumped and the new guy came in ..........everybody was happy except the defeated candidate.

Afterwards  there were drinks and food chicken,prawns etc and  everyone tucked in .

I noticed the defeated guy with a full bottle of Johnny Walker under his arm as he left for the last time.

That was his consolation prize.

Ted Hosking was the Secretary when I joined the committee in 1974 and he held the job until he retired when he turned 65 .

His replacement was the former Secretary of the Maryborough Trotting Club Mr.E. J. "John" Houlson......who had in the past held a trainer/drivers license in South Australia.

There were only three possible apointees from amongst the short listed applicants and as fate would have it two withdrew leaving John Houlson as the only live ticket.

Houlson had a few detractors from his time in Maryborough but he was an ideas man and did a lot of good things until he went off the rails.

He was a likeable sort but came across as a bit shifty imo.

Nothing got past the eagle eyes of our previous Treasurer John French and when I took over I followed suit.

I kept a close eye on the finances  and nobody did anything they were'nt supposed to.

Everything went pretty well during John Houlson's  tenure......but the shyte hit the fan eventually and he either resigned or was dismissed.

I wasn't on the committee when it happened and only know what I read in the news.

The Fraud Squad was called in after certain allegations were made to the Chairman of the HRB by an associate of Houlson's a Mr.Klazema.

I think the HRB then took over the administration of the club and appointed Robert Pearson who was to become Secretary of Albion Park.

The club continued and remained viable until a couple of years ago when it was forced to close by the bean counters at the HRB.

The pity of it was the southside lost a valuable and popular community venue.

Rocklea's closure was another tombstone erected by the HRB following closures at Cairns,Townsville,Innisfail,Charters Towers,Rockhampton,Maryborough,Ipswich & Toowoomba. :chair:








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Post by: richo on 2011-Apr-05, 07:49 PM
there's a blast from the past arsey ned coleman he used to drive the show circuts on the rivers my dad knew him but he was a very hard man with a horse.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-11, 08:07 PM
Greg Grant who is still in business  selling  saddlery and riding gear,was also an auctioneer.

He  held  trotting horse auctions every so often  on a Sunday at Rocklea and I would  attend mostly out of curiosity without any intention of buying a horse.
 
Although I went with no intention of bidding there were  only  a few times when I came home empty handed.

I couldn’t resist a bargain.......all on impulse, and mostly they turned out OK, apart from a couple of  notable failures.

The first  impulse buy was Leading Man a 28 class 4yo with only a few starts before I bought him for $650.

Two of my mates came into him and we raced him in partnership.

In those days horses were cheap and prizemoney wasn’t over generous but training fees were affordable and providing the horse was sound you could race them  regularly and have an interest almost every week.

It took a while before he showed any form but we were patient.

Once he got going  he turned out a very honest and consistent  pacer winning multiple races at Rocklea including an  Easter Cup as well as a couple at Albion Park and  Gold Coast  and another FFA at Redcliffe.

He was a good beginner from stand or mobile and loved the death seat.

Not many could  do it as tough as Jim  could,  Jim was his stable name.

He was a good earner and could have been a lot better with a bit of luck.

He was in a FFA one day at Rocklea the favourite was Fiery Tan a very good horse much better performed than Jim.

We let him go out unbacked,not even a just for luck bet on him, and up he got winning impressively at 10/1.

We were very pleased with his performance but only  had the prizemoney to take home.

There was another race  he was in at the Gold Coast  one night and Ron Egerton rang to ask if Greg Sugars from South Aust could have the drive.

I said it’s OK with me if our trainer/driver agrees.

I asked him nicely but he didn’t want to give up the drive and I couldn’t do any more than that.

Ron got Greg Sugars on another runner and you know the result, Greg Sugars wins the race and we run  an unlucky second.

With Sugars on we win for sure.

When Jim retired I gave him to a woman in my office who wanted a quiet horse to keep on their acreage property which her husband could ride.

I hope he enjoyed his life after racing. I loved that horse.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-13, 08:31 AM
CM today has a story about one of Barcaldine's 6 pubs The Globe Hotel being bought by the Council and likely to close or be used as a Visitors' Information Centre.

I've been to Barcaldine a couple of times .....many years apart.

First time by train travelled all through the night from Emerald arriving around breakfast time and booked into the pub across the road from the railway station.

All the old style pubs looked the same big wide awnings  from the verandah provided shade to the bar and the upstairs bed rooms.

Community dining room where all the guests shared tables for breakfast and dinner.....

Community bathrooms but washing facilities in each room ........ tap and basin with bore water not for drinking and often as red and brown as the dust in the outback.

The pub where I stayed was owned by Bluey Stirling and his wife a very hospitable place it was too.

In the dining room memories of past glory was there for all to see a sign "Under Vice-Regal Patronage" when I enquired I was told former Qld governor Sir Leslie Wilson had stayed there......that would have possibly been 30 years earlier.

He was gone but not forgotten.

In it's hey day Barcaldine was a thriving town but that was long ago and when I was there last the biggest industry was the public service,without it the town would have died .

There was ca large MRD district office,railways,court house ,DPI, school and hospital ,police and local government workers.

Bluey's wife owned a racehorse at the time it was called HOO HAH after something Mrs.Whitlam said.

One of the union members I met worked at the school as a Janitor and trained a few horses as a sideline.

He took me out to the racetrack where his horses were stabled and he told me about a local ringer who had been given a racehorse to train and he was asked what he should feed it etc.......the ringer was Jack Clayton who eventually became a top trainer in Brisbane.

Jackie Rafter was the bloke who put Jack on the road to success.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: arthur on 2011-Apr-13, 02:36 PM
Mate of mine, Bob K. had a pub at 'Barky' many years ago . . Don't know which one as I've never been there, but was over the road from the TAB in those days

He was a licensed bookie and did a bit of SP 'ing . . . as was the way of the world

Anyway, a bloke lobbed in town, down on his luck with the arse out of his pants . .  and Bob, who was a pretty tough man but had a heart of pure gold, gave him a job and board at the pub to help him out

A couple of months later Bob was 'knocked off' for SP . .

He had been dobbed in by the TAB manager . . and the 'down-on-his-luck' drifter was in reality a gaming squad copper who had used Bob's "hospitality" to gather evidence

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Regarding Jack Clayton

A couple of mates of mine (now both deceased) had a horse called "Pete" with Jack in the early '60's

It won a race for them and I remember a story in the sunday papers about the shrewd N Qld owners who, instead of flying to Brisbane, had invested the plane fare on the horse

The truth of the matter was that they didn't have enough between them to even fly one of them to Brisbane

. . . Down Memory Lane all right  :drinks:
 
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Post by: gratlog on 2011-Apr-13, 02:54 PM
Great places those old pubs.

   I left home just before my 14th birthday and travelled out to Quilpie to work as a cowboy.

   When I got off the train I had been told to wander down to one of the pubs and book in and wait for the mail truck.   I had no idea on how big the country was and was thinking that Ray Station,where I was heading, was just down the road.
   Lady in the pub really looked after me with plenty of food and a compfy bed and the mail truck picked me up the next day.  Took the entire day to get out to Ray Station, it was that far away.

  Stayed out in the bush for nearly four years and mainly worked with horses from down Quilpie way right up to NT.  Might not have been a Uni education but I learnt things there that have helped in later life and never regretted it for a moment.
   The country pubs played a big part in my life in those days.   
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Post by: usernametaken on 2011-Apr-13, 06:46 PM
Arsey, that pub in Barcy is the Shakespeare Hotel, or Shakey.
Pat Stirling is Bluey's wife, or rather was, as he passed on a couple of years back.
Pat S. is still out there as far as I know.
The Globe was the meeting place for the Union and Labor movements for years, with Pat O. being a rock solid labor man.

You are dead right about it being a thriving town back in the day, but now, as with a lot of small country towns, the only export they have is their youth. As a rule, if the youngsters want a job they have to head East or South East to the larger centers.
Although having said that, the mines that are opening out that way may hopefully prove their saviour.


Arthur, The pub that Bob K. had was the Commercial. It was next door to the TAB.
Yes, he did take the odd bet over the bar, when he got busted I think a mate of his, Frank D, took the rap so he could keep his pub License.

Jack Rafter was a good man with a horse. His brother Kev used to do most of his riding.




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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-13, 09:15 PM
Good to hear from you all..... :thumbsup:

All very interesting .............you're right usernametaken the pub I stayed at  was the Shakespeare.

The best hotel in town............no motels then and the pubs were the central attraction

In those days  the TAB hadn't got to Barcaldine there was no TV there and the locals were safe in their homes.

Nobody locked any doors,cars were unlocked with the key in the ignition and none went missing.

George Boundy was Clerk of the Court and he took me to every pub in town that first visit.

Coin collecting was the hobby then and  every pub we went to the publican would proudly bring out his collection for us to admire.

Of all the places I've been Barcaldine was the most friendly and welcoming and I enjoyed going back another two times.

My next stop was  Longreach  down the road away  by DC9 or maybe DC3 I don't remember which but  instead  I managed to get a ride with a commercial traveller who was also staying at the Shakespeare.

I was booked into the Lyceum at Longreach but the Court house boys advised me to upgrade to the Commercial...

I reckon every town I,ve ever been to has a Commercial Hotel.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-18, 07:25 PM
Today I received a parcel in the mail from my brother who lives in the Gippsland district of Victoria.

It was  an audio tape our family made in 1972  which we sent to him in Germany where he was teaching in Bucholz.  

Until today we had forgotten all about it...................nearly 40 years ago.

Playing the tape today with all our little kids telling him excitedly about their goings on in their tiny  little voices brought back some happy memories.

The kids are all grown up now and they haven’t heard it yet.....when they come over at the weekend we’ll play it for them.

The news of the day then............Billy McMahon was PM but Gough was breathing down his neck  with his “It’s Time” campaign and Hawkey head of the ACTU  forecast the future .......... asked if he had any parliamentary ambitions  very modestly replied “only to be PM”

At the time I was holding the fort at the union,the boss was away in Melbourne and thanks to Quentin Dempster we made the front page with a strike threat at Westbrook.

The story made it on the TV news that evening ............ but was a one day wonder.............the strike never happened.

Today being a miserable  wet  day I found some old racing tapes I hadn’t listened to for years...they are still as good as the day I recorded them.

My most treasured tape is Ron Egerton’s brilliant call of the Rocklea Easter Cup in 1980 won by my great old favourite Leading Man.

He sat in the death for most of the 2500m race and was too strong at the finish running a very respectable 2.9 MR on the small track.

The race was worth $1500 to the winner and trophy and rug............I’ve still got the trophy,but it needs a polish.

There are quite a few of Wayne Wilson’s call on the old right hand Albion Park circuit... he was the best in the business then imo .... right at his peak.

One race in particular in which Leading Man led to the shadows of the post had me wishing he might get the photo( this time) after  such a long delay.

WW called it a DH or  Swift Beau  and it took ages for the judge to split them by a nose.We ran second.

I had forgotten about this race as WW gave the prices LM blew from 10’s to 20/1 and paid $6.75 the drum.................I don’t remember whether we backed him that time.

Probably not.................. I think the quinella was over $100 and the trfecta $1500 odd...............I don’t think I got any of that.

The recording of his next race was a much better result starting favourite at 6/4 he bolted in .

One call by Terry Spargo after he won a FFA at Redcliffe only 7/10 outside the track record  made me laugh.

“Leading Man,you wouldn’t read about it” he said.

"When I did my tips I put him on top................but for the track I changed to the Fav."

Never mind Terry you’ll have worse days.

Thanks for the memories. :thumbsup:

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Post by: monologue on 2011-Apr-18, 08:15 PM
Arsenal did you ever see the mighty "Lord Larma" doing his thing at Rocklea?

I bought into him after he had won 6 or 7 races.  I got him at a bargain I was told.....never won again. :rant:

My entry in to the world of harness racing. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-19, 11:33 AM
I remember the name Mono .....but can't remember if I ever saw him .....what years?
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-19, 07:11 PM
One day in the late 70’s I think it would have been I got a call from my mate “Mr.Davis” he said he could get me a horse from Howard Wilson which he thought  would be suited in Brisbane.
I didn’t have anything else at the time so I accepted this offer,it was worth trying I thought although I didn’t expect the horse could be improved coming from such a good trainer as Howard Wilson.

I forget the details but the horse arrived and  our only cost was for the float trip from Sydney.
The horse was in work so it wasn’t long before he was entered for a race.
Note Again was it’s name it was a 23 class I think.

I think his first run for us was at Redcliffe, at a night meeting and on the way there the float had a puncture right outside Mount Olivet hospital leading to the Story Bridge.
Not a good omen I thought,Mount Olivet was a hospital for the dying.

The horse behaved himself when he was unloaded and wasn't spooked by the traffic.
I was a bit surprised that he didn't play up as he was a cranky bugger.
Once  the tyre was changed  we  got going and arrived in just enough time to get him ready for his race.

He was as rough as bags in betting and I didn’t back him but he ran a cheeky race until his condition gave out half way down the straight.
He was working well after this and when taken to Laidley for a quiet hitout at the racecourse he ran a winning trial on the grass.

This led to renewed optimism that we could get something out of him when next produced.
But it was  a false alarm he didn’t reproduce it at the races.
The best he did was running a couple of places and  he never made it to the winners circle.
He had let us down too often and we didn’t think he would get any better.

When a mate expressed interest in having a go with him we signed him over and he went to John Kann to train.
At the time I was glad to see the back of him.

I don’t know how or what he did differently but John Kann  got him going really well once he worked him out.
He won a race at Rocklea driven by a mate of mine Terry Brown and had two wins at Albion Park before he reached his limit.
He was a tough horse and liked to sit outside the leader, maybe if we had raced him that way he would have been a winner.

I think he may  have bled and finished up being sold to the USA.
So he was one that got under my guard well and truly.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-21, 09:37 AM
Sitting here at my PC  I'm looking at the a couple faded pics on the wall of races won long ago.

One is Leading Man's Easter Cup at Rocklea dated 12 April 1980 that's a lifetime ago. :no1:

The second is a win at Albion Park of the second best horse I was lucky enough to get and this is his story.

It was at a Rocklea auction on a Sunday afternoon up in the old members' stand having a beer with some mates when  I saw this  unraced  unnamed 2yo colt being led back to the stables after failing to attract a bid.

I liked the look of him, he was well bred  by Trainer Hanover (imp) a good sire,  so I approached the trainer who was representing the owner and he was agreeable to me taking him on trial with a view to purchase.

Our trainer came and collected him and  had some trouble loading him into his trailer, he was very spooky.

Once he settled down and commenced working he showed some promise  we  decided to go ahead and buy him.

With the purchase finalised you would normally get the horse’s registration papers but in this case the naming was still being processed.

The  trainer told me he had applied for the name  “Trainer’s Nightmare” which I didn’t like at all.

Terry Peabody  was the owner, at the time he had a farm at Moggill with Lyle Walker his  private trainer.

He is reputed to be a millionaire these days but is no longer involved in trotting as far as I know.

He did have a horse Forklift when night trotting started in Qld in 1968.

After buying the horse I got on the phone to the  Trotting Registrar in Melbourne and asked him to put a hold on that name application so I could submit something more suitable.

We submitted 6 names and were successful with Sporting Sam.

Sam turned out a  winner a very consistent but unlucky little guy he ran stacks of minor placings.
 
He was second in the Rocklea Derby as a 3yo and second again in  the 4YO Championship the following year after sitting 3 or 4 wide most of the way.

He was slaughtered several times but always put in......he was a real tryer.

He was beaten a nose one day at Rocklea  as a 2yo with the winner carrying him wide all the way down the home straight so we protested but failed in the stewards room.

The steward told me later the winner was going away from us on the line....... he was beaten a nose.

There was no CCTV then as there is now.

Another day at Tweed Heads he was knocked down by the winner which crossed  in front of him  at the bell,  lost two or three lengths and  galloped,   he recovered to run second beaten less than a length.

We put in a  protest to the steward from the NSWTC wasn't watching he  didn’t see the interference going on his decision.
 
He was the sole steward on duty and was only a part timer with an ordinary reputation  which he he justified when  he didn’t allow me to be present at the hearing, a right I was entitled to.

He was an arrogant prick......a bit of a piss pot .........nobody liked him.
 
After the hearing  with the protest dismissed I bumped into an interstate trainer/driver who had been in the race.
 
He told me he saw the interference and didn’t want to cause trouble but  would have spoken up if he knew it was my horse.

I was very dirty about being excluded and intended making a complaint about this incompetent steward to the NSWTC  but  decided it wouldn’t change the result and let it go.

I think the NSWTC eventually came to an arrangement with the QTCB for Qld stewards to do Tweed meetings,although at one stage they sent stewards up from Sydney.

Sam  won  at Albion Park,the Gold Coast and Rocklea and was a good money spinner for everyone.

We gelded him as a 4yo and he raced just as well  after as before the op.

He was a playful little bugger at home but without any vices and had a lovely kind nature.

There was a bust up with our trainer who did the wrong thing  by us by starting the horse unbeknown to us in a heat and final at Redlands  show the night before  he was in at Rocklea.

We found out by chance the  next day  at Rocklea as one of my partner's relatives was there and told him all about it.

The trainer did the wrong thing by starting the horse against our wishes.

The horse had two  hard runs the night before  and should never have started.
 
We took the horses off him that day and that was the end of that association.

Sam was transferred to another young trainer who always turned him out in top condition.

He was working for another trainer at the time and only had our horses to train in his own name.

When he left that stable he had to find somewhere to train  for himself.

Thanks to  Lloyd Rees then Chairman at APTC  I managed to get him a couple of boxes on course at Albion Park.
 
We sold Sam to a guy I knew and he had lots of racing he never went as well as when we had him.

He raced extensively in  Rockhampton  after that  but we never saw him  again after the sale.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-24, 07:27 PM
Checking through the Caloundra results today I noticed a roughie named Ninth Duke saluted.

I remember there was a sire Ninth Duke foaled 1933....... sired a good few winners too.

One I remember was Better Duke owned by a friend of my father.

He won  races on the grass and the creek.

Funny after all those years I can still see his colours.....White purple diamonds & armbands.

He was trained by Tom Nixon at Deagon......he had the stables on the main road opposite the track.......it's now a Vet practice.

Another winner of his  I recall was Limadec.

I was only a kid at EF this day, I heard him tell the old man to have a few bob on it and ridden by the late Cec Markey  it won an Encourage H'cap.

Our local butcher Mick Ure owned a couple of fair horses at different times one was Duke Meteor by Ninth Duke  trained by Frank Davis.

Some names are reserved permanently others are available after 20 years or so.

My nic Arsenal is reserved seeing he won the Cup in 1886. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Apr-28, 07:36 PM
My grandson Jake 17  arrived home safely  Tuesday from his  school Rugby trip to  Argentina and Chile.

He was away for 10 days and played 4 games against the host schools winning 2 and losing 2.

Apart from training and playing rugby they had a fair bit of leisure seeing the sights,and went to the beach one day.

One of his schoolmates was injured and had to be flown home prematurely which was a pity.

The boys had a marvellous time they were billeted with families of the teams they played against and were very well looked after.

They also stayed  a couple of nights in Hotels in  Santiago at the Neruda Hotel Santiago De Chile and the Ermitage Hotel Montevideo.

The trip included Santiago,Buenos Aires,Vina Del Mar, Montevideo,stopping at Auckland on the way and back to Brisbane.

Wonderful experience for a young lad .

Something to remember and maybe expand on  in the years ahead of him. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-04, 06:34 PM
Set off to golf today although not too full of anticipation as the course has had more than it's fair share of rain followed by a heavy storm yesterday afternoon.
There were a lot of cancellations due to the condition of the course and the fact that motorised buggys have to stay on the cart paths and golfers have to walk to their ball.........this is too hard for some of the older guys,and it's not much fun walking backwards and forwards when they're not used to it and there are lots of  wet spots which is another turnoff.
The starter called me over as I was lining up to pay my comp fee and there I was all alone the others had pulled out.
One was crook the other can't walk too far and needs his cart while the other guy elected to play with his friends at a later time slot.
It was a 4ball which I wasn't too keen on especially if it turned out to be only three of us in the group.
Depending on cancellations he said the earliest spot he could find would probably be at 11.48 this was just before 11am when I had been due to hit off at 11.12.
Waited for a while to see if anyone I knew turned up looking for a game when  that didn't happen so I decided to pack up,go  home and mow the lawn.
That's the first time this has happened  to me usually you'll always get a game but  being a 4 Ball I wasn't disappointed to miss out.
I'll keep the ammunition dry until Friday...all going well.
And mowing the lawn today means I'm free tomorrow. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-05, 08:24 PM
Magnificent weather today in Brisbane so I headed out to the course for a leisurely nine holes.
No one in front or behind had the back nine to myself..........ladies comp started early and we never crossed paths.
Made good time too hit off around 8.15 and only 90 minutes from start to finish and didn't lose a ball.......didn't find any either.
Quite incredible what a fine sunny day with a little wind does to dry out the wet spots.....still a few but the mowers are working and the course is about the best it's ever been imo.

Finished up pruning the hibiscus bushes,washed the car,had a sleep and ready to do it all again tomorrow. :thumbsup:
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Post by: usernametaken on 2011-May-06, 08:40 AM
So life is tough at the moment eh Arsey?   :lol:
Half your luck.
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Post by: gratlog on 2011-May-06, 08:53 AM
I haven't played at your course for sometime but last time I did I lost three balls in one hole when I hit into the water.

  Hey, you wouldn't try to get your ball out of the dam at Carbrook with those bull sharks getting so big now.  I used to be a member there but it got a bit to dear for me.  Still a good course and good fun for a poor golfer like myself.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-06, 09:37 AM
That's what it's all about men..........making the most of every day..........I've used up most of mine already.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-11, 10:33 PM
I don't know whats happened to my racing records........I kept a log of all the horses I had an interest in and all their performances...but it's nowhere to be found.The ones I've mentioned were the better ones.........but there were a lot of slow coaches amongst the rest.
The few other horses we raced and don't get a mention didn’t set the world on fire and  the last one Kev Whiting and I raced  was Dark Moments.

As it happens I was able to check his racing record through HRA so apart from Trotting Year Books Darkie's record is the only one I have on paper.
He had won two at Redcliffe when we took him on lease to start with to see if he was suited at Rocklea.

Once he showed he could handle the track we bought him and  we really got our money's worth.
He raced almost every week from September 1984 to October 1985. 
Darkie was a nice old horse but no champion but we had a couple of good wins on him and some near misses at big odds.

He won 3 races for us and numerous placings .He had a spell for a month or two and resumed  for a new trainer in February 1986 we had leased him to.
In his care he  won  another two races at Rocklea and a couple of placings.
All together he won 8 races  12 seconds and 6 thirds .
When he finished racing I gave him to the  girlfriend of the trainer who had leased him from us.
 
It was all good fun while it lasted but eventually I woke up to the fact that unless you were very lucky owning horses was a shortcut to the outhouse.
While there are mostly good people in harness racing  its hard to find a trainer who meets all the expectations that owners have.
Still I’d probably do it over again if I had the chance, but with a few changes to avoid making the same mistakes. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: arthur on 2011-May-12, 08:33 AM
Still I’d probably do it over again if I had the chance, but with a few changes to avoid making the same mistakes.

Wouldn't we all  :/
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-12, 07:02 PM
During my time on the Rocklea committee I tried to button my lip about any racing reversals...........except when circumstances required otherwise.

This day there was a massive form reversal by one of the then leading trainer/drivers and I tackled the presiding steward with what was he going to do about it.?

This was as the runners were returning to scale and before the All clear was given.

One thing led to another and he accused me of talking about him "I've been told " he said."you've been spreading rumours"

This wasn't true and I told him so  in no uncertain terms.

There had been rumours I heard but I didn't start them and I never had anything to do with the guy as he hardly ever came to Rocklea.

Well nothing happened ...no inquiry.......but I was very annoyed to be accused of spreading malicious rumours when I had never said a word.

So I got my solicitor to write a letter of complaint threatening legal action to the QHRB then chaired by Sir Abraham Fryberg  colloquially known as  "the one armed bandit"

Abe was a medico and had lost an arm in the war.

The reply was "your complaint has been noted"..........

I also wrote to the then racing minister Sir Gordon Chalk who replied in much more conciliatory  terms.

I soon got over it and ran into the steward some time later..... in the toilet of all places.

We had quite an amicable a discussion as though nothing had ever happened. :beer:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2011-May-12, 07:14 PM
Sir Abe was a D-G of Health.  I wonder how he would have handled the pay fiasco.  :chin:

His former employees continued to treat him as D-G long after he retired.

Gee he loved a meal.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-12, 10:05 PM
Sir Abe was a D-G of Health.  I wonder how he would have handled the pay fiasco.  :chin:

His former employees continued to treat him as D-G long after he retired.

Gee he loved a meal.

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He loved a tip too.........quick on his feet rushing to the ring when he heard of something going off. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-13, 08:28 PM
I'm not normally superstitious .......although  I never walk under ladders........today Friday 13Th ....I didn't expect any bad luck...how wrong was I . :tears:

Played golf.......worst game ever 11 points first 9 and only 9 on the back. :shy:

Second worst score in the comp.........Bradman prize runner up if it was on offer. :p

One stray shot of mine hit another in the group........fortunately it wasn't very hard and he wasn't hurt...probably wouldn't have felt it. :o

Found almost every bunker.......and couldn't get out of most of them. :thumbsd:

One where I did get out  ball hit my bag.....2 shot penalty. :sweat:

Had a small EW bet at Ipswich..........forgot to turn the radio on to listen. :sad:

Heard the result afterwards....never ran a place . :stop:

Watched Briz31.........more  punishment............ will be glad when the sun comes up tomorrow. :beer:

 
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-16, 05:46 PM
There were some notable punters and bookmakers at Rocklea in its hey day,most of the punters kept a low profile ........they didn’t want to read about themselves in the papers.
They were mostly inconspicuous, quietly operating under the radar. 
Mark Read who made the headlines with the mammoth plunge on Getting Closer never came to Rocklea himself but his money did.
One I played a bit part in was High Signal which won a Saturday race in Sydney and  landed a plonk all over the country.
At Rocklea the money was spread around the ring with bowlers allocated one or two bookies  each.
The instructions were to hold fire until the third  call.
After opening at 10/1 the call  we were waiting for came in at 6/1  and that was taken,the horse started much shorter around 6/4 from memory.
The commission  was  to bet win only  so I added my own money to theirs and backed it each way  keeping the place bet myself.
It was a case of catch and kill your own or take the leftovers after the commission went on.
I was reminded of this when John Tapp interviewed Mark Read on Inside Running this week.
He said Henry Davis considered  High Signal  the best horse he had trained .
He raced on for a few more years  and finished his career in Brisbane with Kaye Tinsley I think.

Another time  I was asked to help with  plunge midweek on a NSW race.
The commissioner  recruited a few helpers to do the business and we drove out to  Bundamba,which at that time had a strong bookies ring,not like today with only three bookies.
it was the same system wait until the third call before betting.
The horse won too I think 8/1 was the top price so that was a good result as I managed to get some of my own on at the odds.

Some time back I  saw an interview with a bookie after he retired and he mentioned the name of  one punter ,the only one, he said he  “feared”.I pricked my ears when he mentioned the name as I had met this guy  once at Rocklea.
I was introduced to him by a mutual friend when they came to back a pacer.
That was the first and only time I saw him he seemed a nice friendly  guy had a reputation of being  absolutely fearless when it came to the punt.
I forget the name of the horse he backed ,it was trained by Glen Volp who had a small string and he had set this horse up for a win at Rocklea.
Unfortunately it didn’t live up to expectations and the money stayed in the bookies’ bags.

The late Barry Morton was a regular at Rocklea and would arrive every so often  in shorts and thongs and let go at one of Ron Wanless’s pacers many of which  did their early racing at Rocklea.
These horses were foolproof, looked a treat and invariably ran up to their appearance with Barry getting the bookies’ money.
In later years Barry raced a few thoroughbreds and he used Johnny Niemann’s  harness racing colours White ,black spots,Red sleeves the only difference was a blue cap.
Barry was a very good guy and died well before his time.
His wife whom I’ve never met still races horses with their son.

One day the Mafia came to Rocklea from the “grass castles” in Griffith and collected the cash.
The horse they backed,I think it was called Scene Stealer (rings a bell but not absolutely certain)  was driven by Barry Goesch from NSW.
There were four or five in their  party that day and they were as shifty a looking crew as I’ve ever seen .........very dark and sinister looking, they stood out like sore thumbs .
The bookies were always alert to new horses coming from NSW and especially vigilant when some new faces turned up with money in their hands.
They  didn’t bet any fancy prices about this one and the horse won easily.
Once they collected they were never seen again.
One of them backed the horse on the  Club’s privately operated local tote which  bet only on the Rocklea trots.
It was a costly exercise for him as it held very little money and there wasn’t any profit ..............he was a bit dirty about it.
The horse stayed in Brisbane and raced on with a local trainer.

There was one other plunge I can talk about.................which didn't have a happy ending for me .................which I'll leave for another day.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-23, 08:04 AM
Helping a mate one day to put his commission on at Rocklea on this horse( Ginger something) don’t remember its’full name, it was decided to take the opening price .
Bookies were required to have their boards set 20 minutes before the race start time.We  all  waited until all the boards were set before moving in.
I claimed a bookie  for $100 EW,only the place part was mine,the stable’s was for the win. 
The clerk took the money and called the bet ,the bookie looked around and saw the price going off all over the ring.He pulled out the betting sheets and said...” I’m not betting yet”.
This was  within the time to bet and his obligation was  to accept a bet to lose $600. 

I made a complaint to the Betting steward who reported the incident to the Chief Steward who adjourned the Inquiry to before the first race at Albion Park that night.
The horses were on the track by this and I didn’t get on as the good thing had shortened right up.
As it happened it won easily and everyone was happy except me.
A mate had seen the bookie knock me back and he offered to come and give evidence at the inquiry that he had seen that the sheets were set when I asked for the bet.

At the inquiry the clerk,a decent old guy,  gave straightforward evidence that he had taken the money and called the bet.
He stated that it wasn’t an unusual bet as I had similar bets with the bookie many times.
My mate’s evidence supported my complaint.
Any experienced punter knows that when a punter hands his money to the clerk he has to look at the board to see the price and call the bet.
If the sheets aren’t pushed in the clerk would tell the punter “we’re not betting yet” and he wouldn’t have called the bet if that was the case.
It was an open and shut case,the bookie did the wrong thing.

The stewards held the bookie was obliged to bet and ruled in my favour.
That’s good,when do I get paid I thought......but it wasn’t over.......the Fat lady  still had to sing as I was to find out.
After giving their decision in my favour the Chief steward  threw the bookie a lifeline  telling him he had right of appeal against the decision.
He exercised his right of appeal and in due course we fronted at the offices of the control body for the hearing.

The bookie turned up with a struck off solicitor, as his representative, and I represented myself.
I took a preliminary objection that there was no right of appeal in this case  as the Rules provided that an appeal only lies against PENALTY and that the stewards had not imposed any penalty simply requiring the bookmaker to meet his obligations under the Rules.

Initially I was very surprised that  argument didn’t fly but after it was over I realised I was never going to win the way the appeal was conducted.

Whilst the appeal was to the HRB, effectively it was  to  only one member, the other two present  took no part,one read the newspaper the whole time.
It was a Kangaroo Court if  ever there was  one and after rehashing the events the decision was reserved.
The decision came down “appeal upheld” but without  giving any reasons for decision.

Boards of this type were required to give reasons and this guy who should have known better was  either ignorant or  arrogant enough to think the Law didn’t apply..
Not getting any satisfaction through polite requests and not wanting to incur unnecessary expenses by taking them to court I did the next best thing complaining to the Ombudsman.
That was a long drawn out process too, it took ages before his persistence  was rewarded, finally dragging  a response as to the reasons upholding the appeal.
 
When he finally got an answer it was “There was no contract entered into” nothing further just the one sentence.

This was despite the Rules of betting  which were printed inside  the APTC race  book stating  something like .......“that when a punter demands it the bookmaker is obliged to bet to lose ...... “

There was nothing I could do about it........ no point trying to appeal ,it was out of time anyway and not much money involved to justify taking it to further.

After a period of not talking to each other .......we eventually got over it.........and things returned to normal.

The bookie has long since passed and I did hear he realised he was wrong and donated the money to charity which wouldn’t surprise me as apart from our disagreement  I had  always considered him a decent guy.


Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: chuggers on 2011-May-23, 08:00 PM
All for the sake of $600--what a joke of a bookie !!

Arsenal, I worked as a clerk for many years and was asked to work casual for a few bookies (not my usual bosses) on the trots at fairfield & Bankstown.

They were part time and theu give me around $200 as a bank in the bag    :lol:   :lol: --sometimes they would pack up shop after race 3 after losing most of "the bank" and I stood there like a shag on a rock for the remnder of 5 races. After 4 weeks I told them to jack it and went to the meetings for the punt and won more big time than to embrass myself working with these shonks.

 8-)
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-23, 09:52 PM
Chuggers $600 back then 30 or more years ago was worth getting..........I wouldn't knock it back even today. :beer:

My father worked for one bookie who often  had a touch of the shorts............he had to ask punters to come back later sometimes until there was enough in the front bag to pay the winners around the back. :o
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-May-31, 06:44 PM

After I retired from the union I didn’t do anything  much apart from mowing the lawn, going for a bike ride , having a few bets at the Greenslopes TAB and  taking some golf lessons from Hugh Dolan at Brisbane GC.

At that stage I wasn’t hooked on golf and after learning the fundamentals I only played occasionally on the public course at Brisbane.
Some Mondays I would have a game at Gailes with a guy I knew from Rocklea but I found the hills at Gailes a bit much as my fitness level was pretty low and I didn’t have the stamina for 18 holes.

I did some voluntary work at the Xavier Home at Coorparoo and unless it was raining would ride my pushbike from Tarragindi there and back.

I decided to join a golf club to be able to play more regularly and made enquiries at both Brisbane and Pacific.
I didn’t know any members at either and as Brisbane required me to get a proposer and a seconder and Pacific said they would do this for me that’s where I joined ...and after all these years I’m  happy  I made the right choice.

I was admitted as a five day member to start with and spent about two years on the waiting list before full membership became available.
It’s a different story today, clubs are keen to attract members, there’s no waiting and as a further incentive joining fees are often waived.

On Wednesdays I would have an early game of golf then go to the Gold Coast Trots with Bob Bax and occasionally on Saturdays to Caloundra when he was providing a prices service for racetracks and bookies not then on the AJC prices network.
 
Bob was well known as a top league coach and a very decent guy who sadly is no longer with us.

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-01, 10:22 PM
When I started having golf lessons from Hugh Dolan at Brisbane GC I had only ever  been on a  golf course once  ...........and that was years  before at Terranora CC just over the border from Coolangatta.
It was a great course with spectacular views with an impressive club house,offering excellent catering and amenities.

Sadly it doesn't exist having been converted to residential after the club failed, possibly due to Qld patrons having poker machines available in their own State.

In later years while at a PSB seminar at Surfair on the Sunshine Coast we had a few hits on their three hole course and I fluked a nearest the pin and won a bottle of scotch.

I knew nothing about golf before I came to learn the fundamentals  and Hugh had a blank canvas with which to work.
He was a very good coach............patient and explained techniques in easy to understand language.

After each lesson I would write down what we covered and I still carry that piece of paper in my wallet today.

One day not being aware of the strict dress code I arrived wearing a pair of sand shoes without socks.............I had to buy a pair of long socks before old Hughie could give me a lesson.

In those days long socks were required when wearing shorts and Brisbane GC was one of the last to hold out against the ankle socks most golfers favour today.

It used to be the rule that short socks had to me predominately white but lately any colour is acceptable......you will see some old codgers wearing their black or browns they had when wearing suits to work in the bank .............no use wasting good socks.  :lol:

I reckon some of them still haven't spent  their school money.  :biggrin:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-03, 08:39 PM
Learning the ropes at golf in a series of lessons from Hughie Dolan was a whole new experience although I had played cricket  football  swimming and competed in cycling  as a youth  I never had any coaching  and playing golf had never entered my head.
Hughie started  me off  with the basics....Place ball on tee...line up club square to target..feet together opposite ball.....ball to be off left heel.......turn left toe left.....move right foot back..bend knees....lean forward.....take right hand grip ......drop right shoulder ...place left hand on grip....waggle.....swing right through....finish on tip of right toe....and go find it.

Equipped with the basics but with a whole lot more to learn I joined Pacific Golf Club  and started playing socially and that was  where I met up with my first golfing partner Frank Lewis who as it happened lived nearby and we would usually play early AM.
Starting on the 10th hole we would play to the 17th  then go up the 2nd and finish on the 9th playing 16 holes which usually took about 3 hours.
We would be home before lunch and have the afternoon free.

Frank taught me the art of finding golf balls.... he knew all the right places to look and between the two of us we built up quite a collection despite losing some of our own each time we played.
Playing at Pacific which has a lot of water it’s inevitable you lose balls so you must have a ball retriever in your bag.......they  reckon I’ve worn out more  ball retrievers than anyone else .

When I started at golf there was a guy who used to earn a living fossiking for golf balls in the creeks and dams on the course and he would sell them to the pro who retailed them to his customers.
Neville Swifte was his name and if you happened to hit a ball into the water when he was around he would  do his best to retrieve it for you.
One day, it was a Friday, he was working in the pond on the 11th.when he suffered an epileptic fit and drowned.
I saw his body laid out in the open while police and ambulance were called.

There have been a number of other ball retriever contractors in the intervening years some with wet suits aqualung and flippers,Neville never bothered with  those refinements his only complaint was that the eels bit his feet sometimes.
None of the replacements looked after members like Neville Swifte did.

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-07, 10:39 AM
Robbie Taylor was the professional when I joined and I had a few lessons from him so I could reach a reasonable standard to get a handicap and play in club competitions.
My first handicap was the maximum then allowable 27.

Robbie, with not a lot of confidence, opined I “might” get down to 20 based on what he saw of my skill levels which gradually improved by playing with better golfers and on other courses with the Brisbane vets.

Robbie was a very good golfer but  a very laid back business man.

He would go out of his way to give a free tip or two when he saw members practising on the putting green and he would lend out demo clubs without making a note who he gave them to.

Sometimes you might ask  him about having a hit with one of the demos but it would be out  with another member and he didn’t know who  he had loaned  it to.
One story I heard was about  this visitor who had shown  interest in buying a set of clubs and before parting with the cash he asked Robbie if he could take them out to show his wife who was waiting in the car outside .

No worries said Robbie and that was the last he saw of the visitor and the clubs he hadn’t paid for.

He was far too trusting even in those  uncomplicated days.

Haven't heard of Robbie since he left the golf club ........the last report was he was running a small business on one of the Bay islands.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-11, 07:05 PM
I was an avid reader of golf magazines and have a bookshelf bursting at the seams with books on golf written by all the well known teachers and touring pros from Harvey Pennick to Tiger Woods and all the champions in between.

My golf days were Mondays fortnightly  with the vets,Wednesday and Friday at the club and when I was admitted to full membership I also played Saturdays.

In those days it was difficult to get a game in the Saturday comp as most had regular fours and you needed someone to be  away sick. die or resign  to get in .

The time sheet came out around 3pm on Friday a week before and everyone would line up in order of arrival to put their names down in the morning or afternoon field the following week.
 
I eventually found a spot in a group and gave the races away for several years  enjoying the novelty of competition golf and meeting fellow members.

Unfortunately the mainstay  of our group was in the early stages of developing Alzheimer's and he did some strange things which we had to make allowances for.

One day on the 12th.hole he sliced his ball into the trees, and he disappeared out of sight to try and find it while we stayed on the fairway  .
 
Approaching the green  we saw him bounding up from the rough  and there was his ball  sitting on the green within easy putting distance.
 
My partner remarked “At least he had the decency to miss the putt”

 Sadly he got so bad that nobody would play with him and eventually he had to give the game away.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-23, 09:21 PM
I’ve had two holes in one both at Pacific the first in 1998 on the 3rd. Hole and the second on the 13th. In 2009.........and the lowest handicap I got down to was 16.....but it has gradually gone out from 18 to hovering around 20 until the new handicap system came in a year or so ago when it ballooned to 24 at one stage currently I’m on 21 but seldom play to it despite the advances in golf club technology I’m destined never to reach single figures.

On my good days I’m competitive but my biggest problem is lack of concentration and poor course management.
When I don’t get into trouble and stay out of bunkers and  water hazards I generally play well and it’s days like that that keep me coming back .

In the early days  anyone  winning competitions  received decent  trophies, something of value, these days we get vouchers or credits to our club account.
Vouchers on the pro shop  have to be used within 6 months and as I  had  several hundred  dollars in credit a month or so ago I decided to invest in a new set of Ping irons.

Due to the high AUD the prices here  for golf clubs were uncompetitive with internet dealers in the US until recently  when the club manufacturers made price adjustments so that local golf shops could meet the local market and compete on  something like a level playing field.
So the pro shop was able to sell me the new clubs at around the same price as I would have had to pay if bought on the net.

I had a set of TaylorMade Burner Plus irons for about three years and it was time to turn them over although they were in perfectly good order.
I sold them to a mate who plays in the Vets with me and we’re both happy with the deal.
I’ve still got a few clubs excess to requirements  and three golf bags but they don’t take up much room.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: usernametaken on 2011-Jun-24, 04:52 PM
I always carry a spare sock in my golf bag.

Just in case I get a hole in one.


Apologies for that  :shy:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-27, 10:24 PM
Played with the vets today at Gainsborough Greens, very nice course half way to the Coast.....carved out of rough scrub with lots of interesting wildlife and features.........fair bit of water to contend with but the fairways are wide and in excellent condition,not so the greens.

It's a relatively easy course not too long  there are 5 par3's and  ACR is 69.

Unless your game is  off  you'll have a good day at reasonable prices.

Today there were 108 players cost $40 including a shared cart.
 
Only complaint from players was that the greens weren't in good condition...some oversown others not......very quick and not as true as we are used to.

Quite amazing the amount of residential development going on down this way.

I don't know what the attraction is..........it's miles from anywhere.......traffic is horrendous on the highway in peak hours yet someone  must know they'll make money buidling here. :whistle:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jun-30, 02:51 PM
Sir Michael Somari is in the news again, deterorating health sadly. He's been around a long time but this looks like the end is near.

He and I were in the same group in the golfing section of the World Masters' Games held in Brisbane in 1994 played at Keperra and Indooroopilly.

He was accompanied by a bodyguard and after the game about a dozen or so of his countrymen arrived ......it was the biggest shout I've ever been in but I left early .......as I would have been legless and no chance of keeping up with some of them.

I noticed he never swore once despite all the swearing he would have heard from the rest of the group.

When he hit a poor shot he marked the occasion with a softly spoken ..."You little devil......"

At the time he was just plain Michael  with no airs or graces just a nice quiet friendly fellow.  :no1:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-23, 06:48 PM
I’ve bought and sold three motorised golf carts over the years since my first which was an Aussie Car locally built with a Kawasaki motor.
I  bought it and a box trailer from a guy from Virginia and I padlocked the trailer to a lamp post  in the street but kept the buggy under the house.

This buggy stuck me up twice, once when it ran out of petrol,I had forgotten I loaned it to a mate and hadn’t filled the tank which had  a very small capacity.... the other time the accelerator cable snapped  during a round it turned out it was  only a modified  pushbike brake cable.
I sold the buggy  to an old guy from Bundaberg and the trailer went to the local parish.

At this stage I has a shed on course which was very convenient when I bought another buggy this time an electric Yamaha.
There was a period of vandalism where buggy sheds were broken into by local yobbos and carts driven into creeks and dams causing great loss and damage.
The club installed padlocks but they didn’t stop the vandals.
One night the lock on my shed wasn’t fixed from a previous failed attempt at break in and I was able to store it overnight in another unoccupied shed.

That night the club hired a security guard to keep watch from his car in the carpark but he apparently dozed off and while asleep the vandals struck again breaking into my old shed and some others and driving the carts all over the course and some into the creek.
When the pros arrived early Saturday morning to open up  the guard reported that all’s well he hadn’t heard or seen a thing...they soon found out differently.

After that I decided to remove my buggy and bought a trailer to take it to the course from home which I soon got sick of doing and sold both to a guy I knew who serviced buggys for a living..
I got a refund of the $1000 I had paid for my shed and the vandals were stopped when the club fitted steel brackets and stronger padlocks to the roller doors .
The club’s insurance covered loss or damage to the stolen buggys so I was told and a couple were able to get new replacement buggys  for the ones written off.
I bought another  electric Yamaha a few years ago and share it and a shed with one of the lady members which works out OK for both of us.
Shed rents are now $425 a year when once they were less than half that but still there’s a waiting list of prospective buggy owners as the course is long and difficult especially in the hot months.
I like to walk in the cooler periods but the buggy is best when the weather is hot and steamy.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-24, 03:49 PM
Once I recovered from my heart problems I thought if I could  find something less stressful to do than my previous occupation  I might  like to rejoin  the workforce and quite by chance it happened.
I've always believed that being in the right place at the right time is the secret to success.
 
It was in  May 1990 purely by chance I saw an advertisement in the weekend paper for a part time job in the Attorney-General’s Dept.
This involved overseeing the Qld Law Society’s investigating of complaints against solicitors.

I decided   to find out a bit more  about the job and I went over to the Govt Printing Office at the Gabba and got hold of a copy of the Qld Law Society Act, after seeing the detail I  thought I had the qualifications required ,applied for the job and eventually was invited in for an interview.
 
Some months went by without hearing anything  and I had just about forgotten about it .
But the wheels of motion were working, ever so slowly though, and in September a letter arrived from the Attorney informing me I had been appointed as Lay Observer to the Qld Law Society for an initial term of two years commencing 1st October 1990.

I could choose my own hours, the job was for only two days a week ,which suited me down to the ground.
I could still play golf, keep active and earn a little to keep the wolf from the door.
I thought I was on clover.

A new two room office in 40 Queen St on the corner of George St opposite the Treasury building had been leased and furnished and when I moved in I discovered one of my neighbours in the building down a floor was an old sparring partner from the Miscellaneous Workers  Union  originally and later the Nurses Union, Bob Steinitz now  a freelance Industrial Advocate.

This was the beginning of a new episode in my working life.

More to come.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-27, 07:22 AM
Our GG Quentin Bryce is in the News again, this time setting off the alarm going through an airport scanner.
The AP bodyguard and the Security officer had words when the guard ordered her to re-enter which the AP guy strongly resented and apparently he succeeded when the supervisor intervened and she passed through unchecked.
While this was going on Ms.Bryce who was reported to be travelling in a private capacity maintained a dignified silence.

Turns out the supervisor shifted the guard to other duties which caused the TWU to get involved.
I saw him interviewed on TV news and he said what you would expect him to say ...he came across pretty well imo.

But the 7PM Project had a laugh at his expense showing a one sentence comment I hadn’t seen earlier.
The TWU guy was taking the part of the security guard suggesting “How is he to know it’s the PM or the GG”.
In any event neither are immune from airport security, we are told only the Queen and the Pope have this privilege.
So despite the foot in mouth comment taken out of context the TWU guy was right to get involved.

This brings me to the day I met Quentin Bryce many years ago when she was Sex Discrimination Commissioner.
At the time I was General Secretary and she had come to see me in our Elizabeth Street offices about allegations of serious sexual harassment made by one of our female members against fellow workers at one of the DPI Animal Research Stations.

I addressed her  as “Mrs Bryce” and I still remember her response “No...Please...Quentin”.
She had no airs or graces in those days and was very disarming and down to earth.
She came across as a charming intelligent woman interested in trying to help this young woman who had appealed to her to stop the horrific  harassment she had been subject to.
After exchanging information we agreed to keep in touch until the complaint was resolved.

The Union had taken the case up with the DPI and the PSB  it was being treated very seriously as the details of the treatment the complainant alleged were absolutely horrific,unimaginably cruel.
While I had dealt with a few cases of sexual harassment in my time I had never come across anything as horrible as this.

I remember whenever the complainant spoke to me on the telephone there was a male voice in the background giving her orders...Tell him about”....this or that ...whatever the latest incident was.

Not long after Quentin Bryce’s visit the investigation into the complaint was completed.
The outcome was that the allegations were completely without foundation...she had made them all up but in such a convincing way they had the elements of truth and we had all believed her.

There were no adverse consequences for any of the workers she had targeted and it’s only supposition as to what motivated her to fabricate these monstrous allegations against them.

Just another issue with a surprising ending.......a script that Alfred Hitchcock could do something with.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-27, 07:29 PM
With an officer from the AG’s Dept I interviewed the short listed applicants for a Secretary to assist me.
It was a unanimous choice, a young married woman was appointed,  and she turned out to be an excellent choice, dependable, reliable, efficient and discreet as the job involved handling lots of private and confidential information.

I was very sorry to lose her when she decided to give the job away some years later.
Her replacement worked two days for me and did her normal job in the Dept for the remainder.
At this stage the lease of the Queen St office had not been renewed as the building was to be redeveloped and my new office was in the State Law building known as “Gotham City”
 
Under the Act anyone with a complaint against their solicitor was entitled to complain to the QLS in the first instance and if not satisfied with the outcome they could apply to me to review the file.
In reality my powers were very limited and I made a number of recommendations over time to the AG proposing amendments to the Act, some were adopted others left in the too hard basket.

As well as reviewing complaints I attended the monthly meetings of the Professional Standards Committee of the QLS, which oversaw the professional standards branch of the QLS which dealt with complaints from the public and prosecuted solicitors deemed to have broken the rules.

As an observer I attended hearings of the Statutory Committee which dealt with the most serious charges, striking off and suspensions were imposed in appropriate cases.
I also attended the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal which dealt with the less serious charges again as an observer.
I didn’t have a vote at either but was encouraged to participate in their discussions and decisions.

These hearings mostly were breathtakingly dull and boring, going through reams of paper constituting the charges which had painstakingly been put together by the prosecutors.Most cases were over in the one day.
Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal hearings were open to the public and  once a reporter from one of the newspapers attended and published a report on his observations.It was the first and last time for the press much too dull.
 
Occasionally I would ask a  question of the witness or prosecutor.
One time I remember asking  the solicitor in the box a question.
The prosecutor who reminded me of Claude Erskine -Brown from the TV series Rumpole jumped to his feet and protested very indignantly: “This is Most Improper” he said.
The Chairman considered his objection briefly before sitting him down and allowing the question.
The solicitor in the dock grabbed this lifeline with both hands but it didn’t save him from the inevitable penalty.

Another time my curiosity got the better of me and I asked the QC representing the defendant ,quite a senior one he was too, what happened to the money his client  stole, he thought for a minute before replying “I have no instructions on that”.
She was sitting next to him but never bothered to help him out with the answer.
In defalcations the Solicitors Fidelity Guarantee Fund reimburses clients for the loss.

The Law Society conducts periodic audits of solicitors' trust accounts or should a client complain the Society is quick off the mark sending the auditor in.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-28, 12:31 PM
Most days during or after hearings of the Statutory Committee we would go to lunch, at Michaels in the Riverside Centre.
Members of the disciplinary committees were legal practitioners giving their services free of charge.
I saw quite a few top Silks in action in my time observing disciplinary hearings and it was quite enlightening  at times listening to their pleas and their advocacy skills.

I made monthly reports to the AG and an Annual Report which he presented to Parliament.
When I took over the job it had been vacant for some time and there was a backlog of complaints to deal with.
I never met my predecessor and there was no handover or the benefit of any advice from whatever experiences he had.
I was starting from scratch with a bundle of his unanswered files.

Things were hectic at the beginning until I got on top of it, with an office to organise, dealing with the staff of the QLS,  I had to devise an operating  system to record and deal with complaints,  interview complainants liaise with the QLS, where appropriate negotiate with solicitors.
The work was interesting and varied from crime to domestic issues all manner of things, anything involving a solicitor and client.

I had few FOI applications and   one which I had upheld stood out.
The Law Society wasn’t happy with that decision contending their employee, a solicitor reporting on the complaint involved legal professional privilege, (solicitor and client) I didn’t accept that argument and the QLS appealed to the Ombudsman who upheld my ruling and the complainant was given access to his file.

I found the people employed by the QLS very competent, they mostly worked under a lot of pressure dealing with disgruntled clients and/or members of the legal profession who were under the microscope. 
I found them very easy to get along with, even when I disputed some of their findings, they didn’t take it personally.
Many of the elected representatives holding office in the society and freely donating their time in the public interest have had their ability recognised since by being appointed as Judges and Magistrates.

The first solicitor appointed to the District Court as a Judge was John Robertson  a very fine fellow I had a bit to do with and other solicitors  have  since followed  this path.
 
Prior to this judicial appointment at District Court level was the sole preserve of Barristers.

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Jul-29, 03:25 PM
I met lots of interesting people on both sides of the fence and I tried to resolve as  many  issues as my limited authority allowed.
My initial two year term had been extended in 1993 for another two years  and it had dragged on again  extending  to  six and a half years without anything being formalised.
 
After a change in government  in 1996 with Rob Borbidge’s  election Denver Beanland was appointed AG replacing Matt Foley.
I advised him I was happy to quit if he wanted to appoint his own choice to replace me.
I had had enough a year or so before but stuck it out not wanting to leave them in the lurch so to speak.
 
Dealing with complaints all the time isn’t an uplifting task with only the occasional reward of a successful outcome.

No you carry on he said until one day  in February 1997 when  I got a call from the AG’s office.......he wanted to see me.
When I sat down he said he had appointed someone to replace me, one of his constituents as it happened, and that he was  to start straight away.

That was  OK with me  as I was happy to go, although I was a bit surprised  at the short notice.
I hadn’t seen any advertisement for the position so I wasn’t aware it was open, if it had been advertised I probably would have known.
 
I offered  to stay on to show the new guy the ropes, an accountant by profession , and once he was satisfied  he knew what to do I left him to it.
He was a very decent fellow  and  we got on very well together.
He rang now and then for a chat  and his last call  was to tell me he had had enough of complaining clients and copping abuse and was resigning.
 
These days the job has been redesignated as the Legal Services Commissioner.
 
I was amazed  recently to read a piece in the City Beat column that a client of a big city firm had been billed something like $9000 for a 30 minute consultation and when  he queried the  amount the firm offered to reduce the bill to $5000 odd if paid within 7 days.
 
Hard to believe that could be allowed to stand, the cost assessor would get his teeth stuck into that surely.

I had been  appointed Returning Officer for the Union, my old employer, during this period.
It was an honorary position which didn’t take up much time.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-04, 05:25 PM
Today being Fathers’ Day I was pleasantly surprised to find an interview with my great grandfather William “Billy” English published in The Argus newspaper on 3 November 1886 after he rode Arsenal to win the 1886 Melbourne Cup.
He was only 19 at the time and this was by far his biggest win.

A tremendous training performance it must have been by trainer Harry Raynor getting him ready first up after almost 12 months away from the track and  in work for 7 months. And a very astute purchase by Mr.W Gannon who bought him for around 325 guineas after being backed and beaten in the Cup the year before.

The interview in The Argus traced my great grandfather’s short history  to his linking up with Maitland trainer Mr.Raynor and reading it brought a tear to my eye. The writer described him “as modest as he is young” and told of his riding his first winner  Twilight 7 years before weighing 3s 10lbs and in the service of Mr.Scott  described as “ a local turf celebrity” The report named The Hawkesbury Stakes as his best big win prior to the Cup.

This is a snippet of the interview..”I won nothing by his win but a gentleman came into the jockeys’ room when I was taking off my boots after the race and told me to call at the Opera house club rooms tonight and i would get 50 pounds.I am not going in for the money but if the gentleman has any principle he will take care that I get it.” 

Billy English was killed in a race fall on 1st September 1896  leaving a wife and two young children.

Jockeying is and was a dangerous game . I doubt there would have been any financial assistance for the families left behind as there is today.

I've wondered whether Billy English's name is recorded on the fallen Jockey's Memorial at Caulfield............I never received any reply to my previous enquiries. :o

I'll ask again.......and might have better luck. :whistle:
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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Sep-04, 06:25 PM
Today being Fathers’ Day I was pleasantly surprised to find an interview with my great grandfather William “Billy” English published in The Argus newspaper on 3 November 1886 after he rode Arsenal to win the 1886 Melbourne Cup.
He was only 19 at the time and this was by far his biggest win.

A tremendous training performance it must have been by trainer Harry Raynor getting him ready first up after almost 12 months away from the track and  in work for 7 months. And a very astute purchase by Mr.W Gannon who bought him for around 325 guineas after being backed and beaten in the Cup the year before.

The interview in The Argus traced my great grandfather’s short history  to his linking up with Maitland trainer Mr.Raynor and reading it brought a tear to my eye. The writer described him “as modest as he is young” and told of his riding his first winner  Twilight 7 years before weighing 3s 10lbs and in the service of Mr.Scott  described as “ a local turf celebrity” The report named The Hawkesbury Stakes as his best big win prior to the Cup.

This is a snippet of the interview..”I won nothing by his win but a gentleman came into the jockeys’ room when I was taking off my boots after the race and told me to call at the Opera house club rooms tonight and i would get 50 pounds.I am not going in for the money but if the gentleman has any principle he will take care that I get it.” 

Billy English was killed in a race fall on 1st September 1896  leaving a wife and two young children.

Jockeying is and was a dangerous game . I doubt there would have been any financial assistance for the families left behind as there is today.

I've wondered whether Billy English's name is recorded on the fallen Jockey's Memorial at Caulfield............I never received any reply to my previous enquiries. :o

I'll ask again.......and might have better luck. :whistle:


You are very proud and so you should be Arsenal   :thumbsup:

 :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-06, 06:46 PM
Thanks Chuggers :beer:

Contacted Racing Victoria who responded promptly with links to the AJA memorial..........unfortunately Billy English's name isn't among them. :tears:

I've taken the liberty of correcting their oversight and added  his name (on here)where it should be.  :no1:

This is the record of those they have recognised as having been  killed in racing accidents.
 
"The Australian Jockeys Association unveiled a memorial at Caulfield Racecourse on the 5 March 2005 to commemorate those jockeys who have died in riding accidents.

 The monument consists of a bronze figure of a jockey standing 1.8 metres with a base of 1.2 metres of 6 panels containing the names of 305 jockeys. The jockey, in a sense anonymous, is based on famed rider Hughie Cairns who was killed in a hurdle race at Moonee Valley. The stance has been been copied from a mounting yard photograph taken prior to one of Cairns’ 14 feature wins on Heroic.

 On a solemn note there are five   six Melbourne Cup winning jockeys listed (H. Dawes, R. Reed, H. Cairns, K. Voitre W. English and N. Sellwood) along with the fathers of John Marshall, Jimmy Johnson, Damien Oliver and Tony Vasil. Also, the brothers of Bobby Lewis, Damien Oliver, Harold Badger and Bob Cox. Billy Elliot who had a perfect score in his seven rides on Phar Lap is listed along with Tommy Corrigan.

 The memorial is the work of Melbourne artist Jennifer Mann and was the inspiration of Ned Wallish. The AJA is most grateful for the donations from the many organisations and individuals, both within the thoroughbred racing industry and externally, who made the construction of this magnificent memorial possible.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-07, 06:57 PM
Had a blood test today fasting  since 8pm last night so I went up  early before breakfast
There weren’t any patients ahead of me which is the first time this has happened.....the TV is ghosting badly and  the only item I saw was that ALP caucus members reportedly telling Joolya to lift her game.

I wore a tracksuit and my dear wife was concerned  to make sure that  the sleeve wasn’t too tight to pull up so they could take the blood sample.
I had no trouble and told the nurse about the trial run I was put through before I left home.

During conversation she asked how long we have been married and I gave her all the details.... how we met  when we worked at the MRD  eventually got engaged,  married  at 24 and so forth and that was the best thing ever to happen to me.

She told me she is 28 and is worried she might not meet mister right having just broken up with a man she really liked who she wanted to settle down with and raise a family. He liked her too but didn’t want to settle down as “ something was missing”.........what does that mean she asked?

I was stuck for an answer but  tried to cheer her up by telling her about a guy I worked with many years ago who came home one day to find his wife had walked out and taken all the furniture.He had no idea she was involved with another man and he was deeply depressed when he discovered the truth.
We  had lunch every Friday  for a couple of months  and every time  I encouraged him to get out of the rut he was in and  go out and meet  some of the opposite sex.

Once he made up his mind to do this he started out at weekly house parties for singles and he met lots of unattached women  and enjoyed some brief dalliances  until  the night he met the one he was searching for,a divorcee with a child. 
They settled down married and lived happily ever after.

This young woman is nice looking , has a pleasant disposition,is easy to relate to,has a  nice trim figure  and unless I’m mistaken she’ll not find it too difficult to meet someone as appealing as she is.

I told her I would say a prayer for her.
My wife said St.Valentine is the man to go to. :love:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-08, 07:23 PM
Watched episode two of the 4Corners  50Th Anniversary replays last night on the Dismissal and a cover of the  electioneering from Labor and Liberal camps.
Whitlam was getting tremendous public support to start but in the end it evaporated and it was Fraser’s turn to hog the limelight....and win the election.

Lots of old faces  brought back memories...... all of us were much younger then 1975.

Wallace Brown noted Canberra journo, Bruvver Ducker from NSW, David Coombe ALP and Tony Eggleton were the campaign managers .
My local member Lib Jim Killen having to do numerous retakes to get  a Lib commercial right for TV and noticed an old mate Bob Baudino who I met years later at our golf club.These were some of the players but the stars were Gough and Malcolm.
Bob was at his peak then, now he’s back on deck after suffering a stroke a little while ago.
I ran into him yesterday at the Club and he looks the best I’ve seen him for ages.

Alan Hogan was the ABC reporter covering the story and one little snippet he managed to get from Tony Eggleton  talking about Fraser v Whitlam he conceded that” Fraser is not as spectacular as Whitlam .”

Those were the days. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-10, 09:55 PM
Have received a reply from the National Jockeys' Trust and I'm now in possession of all the details regarding the race fall my great grandfather lost his life in.

He was riding a mare named REGALIA in a hurdle race at Canterbury Park on 30 September 1896 which fell.......

He died the following day in hospital from injuries he received in the fall.

An inquest held on 2nd and 7th October 1896 concluded the death was accidental.

Notices were published in the Sydney Morning Herald on 2nd October and 8th October to this effect.

The NJA  confirmed that once they verify the facts Billy English's name will be added to the Fallen Jockeys' Memorial.

I'm very pleased that after all these years Billy English will be remembered along with all his fellows on  the Memorial for ever more. :clap2:

Today I completed the picture. my cousin found the missing link and details have been sent to the NJT........just a matter of time now for him to be remembered amongst the immortals. :clap2:

William ENGLISH History
 
1883 Melbourne Cup   William ENGLISH rode Lesbia but did not do well.

1886 Melbourne Cup  William rode Arsenal to the winning post.  The Melbourne Cup  written by Maurice Cavanough  states "Mr W Gannon was just another optimistic owner when he nominated Arsenal for the cup in 1886.  Arsenal's career at that stage was particularly undistinguished.  Bred by Mr Frank Reynolds at his successful Tocal Stud near Maitland, New South Wales, Arsenal was purchased by the wealthy Victorian sportsman, the Hon. W. Pearson for 625 guineas."  After the horse failed to win any other races the owner sold Arsenal to Mr W. Gannon a Sydney sportsman.
 
Arsenal suffered from tender feet and throughout his long preparation his trainer Harry Rayner, restricted him to work on the tan track where the touts paid him little attention.  A week before Cup Day, Arsenal was taken to Melbourne.  Mr Gannon had entrusted the mount on Arsenal to a little-known nineteen year old lad named W. English.  For all his inexperience, English rode a masterly race.

From The Melbourne Cup Club  "Though only 19 at the time, and only having his second ride in the Cup, jockey English rode with the aplomb of a veteran to win on Arsenal.  He had the four year old in third place on settling, holding that position until the home turn.  On approaching the straight, English gave Arsenal more rein to go to the front, with English still riding hand and heels.  Arsenal was still leading at the 50m when New Zealander Trenton ranged alongside with his rider Alick Robertson wildly using his whip in an attempt to inch past Arsenal.  However, English remained unperturbed, and didn't even resort to his whip under such pressure, to score by a long neck.
 
Despite his impressive and confident ride, English failed to get another Cup mount.

 
Victoria Racing Club advised me that in the week prior to the 1886 Melbourne Cup, W English rode a double at Rosehill.
Unfortunately for William ENGLISH he was killed whilst riding in an event on 30 September 1896.  He left a wife and 3 children.
 
From death certificate of William ENGLISH died at the Western Suburbs Cottage Hospital, Enfield.  A Inquest was held and cause of death was "Concussion of the brain from injuries accidently received through being thrown from the racehorse Regalia whilst riding in a race at Cantebury Racecourse". Dated 15 October 1896 .
 

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-21, 10:03 PM
It's been a very rewarding experience  for me communicating with the National Jockeys' Trust.........the two young women involved ...Louise and Heidi  are very professional indeed ....  :no1:

Apart from including Billy English in the Fallen Jockeys' Memorial which was my objective in bringing his story to their attention  I've been advised it's intended to introduce a new segment to the NJA website "Focus on The Fallen." which will be a permanent record to the memory of those who lost their lives in race accidents. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-28, 08:09 PM
I’ve had a few medical appointments this week  with my cardiologist who I haven’t visited since 2007 when he said I didn’t need to see him again. Yesterday he  fitted me with a haltor cardiogram to wear for 24 hours to monitor my heart beats and  I had to record my activities in a diary and mention any symptoms or pain experienced.
I said to the doctor  “Tuesday is a quiet day usually we might go to the movies  but don’t do too much.”....”We don’t want that,” he said “you’ll need to be active so we can see what’s going on.”

So after I arrived home I pumped up the tyres on my pushbike and went a circuit on the local bike path about 10ks.No difficulty doing that apart from tired legs as i’m out of practice in the bike riding department.

Came home watched a movie I had taped Mullenbrock was in German with sub-titles had a pretty abrupt ending,the producers must have run out of money and had to end the story without an obvious conclusion.

After lunch I drove to the golf club and followed the last group in the Gary Player for junior golfers from 14 up to 20yo’s.I only had time for six holes as we were late starting and I wanted to get home have dinner and come back for the AGM that evening.The waist band on the haltor kept coming undone and I had to refasten it six or seven times, it was a nuisance and looked like I was carrying a bum bag like the tourists use except it was under my top.

The AGM attracted 88 members  the Board all sat at the top table and the rest of us in groups of 8 at round tables usually occupied by diners.The meeting  would have gone much better  had they bothered  to remove the tables and set up seating  in a proper meeting format with  members facing the front instead of requiring people to either turn their backs or strain their necks trying to follow proceedings.

Despite their business backgrounds the directors don’t have much knowledge of  meeting procedure or decorum,none of them thought enough to warrant standing up  to address us and some  members who didn’t know any better followed suit when it was their turn to speak remaining seated and although they could be heard we couldn’t see them. Maybe they’ll  do better next year.

The annual election resulted in the return of the Captain who had 4 opponents but no results of voting numbers are ever revealed ....pretty strange that only the returning officer and the scrutineers know the figures. Everyone is so used to this lack of disclosure that nobody bothers to ask for details anymore.I gave up years ago.

There were 6 candidates for 4 positions  as director so there was bound to be two disappointed candidates at the end of counting.  One member of the Board was voted out, so one new face added to the returning  ones to take up the task of keeping the club in the black.
The remaining directors President,Vice President & Treasurer  were returned unopposed.

 The course is in excellent condition at present due to some additional expertise being recruited to the greens staff, we now have 3  qualified greenkeepers including the  Greens’Superintendent.  
The club returned a reasonable profit of around $36K well down due to adverse weather on the previous year’s result.We are also getting a new GM coming from Pennant Hills GC in NSW.He is a former member of our club and is very well thought of .
The previous GM left suddenly  a month or two ago and didn’t have any trouble in finding another club job although the circumstances of his departure are a mystery apart from the gossip circulating on the grapevine .Nothing was said at the AGM,maybe all will be revealed next year.
 
The Board proposed a motion to amend the rules  for members to pay a one off $150 to fund further course improvements  but the motion was poorly worded and in serious error in nominating last financial year as the period  with  payment required on 31 December this year. Very embarrassing that the Board allowed this obvious error to slip though unnoticed until alerted by the rank and file that it was impossible in the form submitted.
In the end it didn’t matter as the 75% majority wasn’t achieved and the motionwas  lost,not by much but enough. It might have fared better had it been proposed as a Levy and  in the correct time frame.
The hip pocket nerve was out in force with were several speakers opposed to the proposal insisting that “the Board should manage with what it has.” No credit was given for the good job the management team has done over the past few years when it comes to the hip pocket.

Today I had an echo cardiograph which the operator said  showed that although damaged from the 1985 episode  my heart was pumping well,tomorrow I have to do a stress  test,so I’m hoping for the best.The echo guy is a triathlete and I mentioned my wife and I go to a remedial massage therapist occasionally who also is in that sport.when I mentioned her name he told me she is a world champion having just won an event in USA.As I left he commented how much he enjoyed our conversation the feeling was mutual. :thumbsup:



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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Sep-29, 06:54 PM
The stress test today didn't last too long I had to call a halt after running short of breath after only a few minutes under pressure :stop:...

In racing terms the form guide reads DNF....or FTF.

I'm out of condition and need a solid preparation before I face the stress test barriers again.

So I was sent off to have a chest X-ray....I handled that easily.

Interesting talking to the operator who mentioned the Melb Cup...and the weather and  how some like it wet and others like it dry.

That reminded me of  the year it was a bog and Sir John Kerr was as drunk as a skunk and disgraced himself on TV.

"Who is Sir John Kerr? "she asked...."never heard of him"....After I explained she told me she was in London and wasn't aware that Kerr had sacked Gough Whitlam as PM................so she learned something new.....not that it's much use after all these years. :shrug:

Not quite as bad as the Kiwi bus driver who didn't recognise Joolya Gillard as PM....he thought she was the wife of one of the SP Forum delegates and wouldn't let her on the delegates' bus. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Oct-25, 09:49 AM
I had a phone call a few days ago from one of my golfing mates.....at first I didn't recognise his voice......it didn't sound like him.

Turned out he was ringing from hospital....he told me he had a stroke and when he woke up that morning he realised what had happened so he called the ambulance and was taken to the closest public hospital.

He had a previous episode about 6 years ago and he knew the symptoms and didn't waste time getting help.....he lives alone so had nobody to help.

I visited him at the weekend and he is "the healthiest looking sick person" I've seen that's how his GP describes him .

While he looks OK and his voice is back to normal he has lost the use of his left arm.His leg isn't working too well either but there is some more flexibility yesterday than when I first saw him.

It seems he has had a couple more strokes while in hospital but his brain isn't damaged and the clot which caused the trouble has dissolved so the medico  told him yesterday.

While I was visiting the physio came and put him through his paces and fitted a shoulder support to his left side.
They are also going to fit him with a glove and some electrodes to stimulate his fingers.
Hope it's not like Jack Nicholson in One flew Over The Cukoo's Nest  he said ...he's always a bit fearful of  medical technology .

He is in a ward with 3 other patients all ver elderly and not looking too good.

I've never set foot inside this hospital before but I must say it's much better than I thought it would be with all the criticism of the Health Dept this QE11 hospital runs very well, nice and spacious, good attentive staff,good  food no complaints according to my mate .

The only hiccup was his glasses disappeared with the laundry when they made his bed and tossed it all into the bin.

TV is optional costs $42 odd a week for free to air which is a bit steep imo that's the only complaint.

He is making good progress but it'll be some time before he's able to go home and a bit longer before he is golfing again.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Nov-13, 05:59 PM
It's three weeks since my golfing partner suffered his stroke and he has made excellent progress to date.
His speech is normal,his left arm not fully active yet but improving.and he's walking much better with a cane for security.
Today when I visited him he told me the doctor said it was likely he could be discharged maybe on Friday once they are satisfied he can cope on his own at home.
Tomorrow he faces his first test ..............has to get his own breakfast from the ward breakfast bar ...............and wash up afterwards.
I'm confident he'll handle that OK as he has mastered more difficult tasks such as showering unaided and dressing himself as well.
So fingers crossed it's looking good. :beer:

It's hard to get much rest in hospital, there's a lot of activity and associated noise but the elderly Chinese man opposite sleeps through it all.
Every time I've been there he's sound asleep lying on his back with his mouth open but I've never heard him snore.
He had been sleeping peacefully as usual when the nurse woke him to weigh him I heard them say 57.5.
He doesn't look any different  than when I saw him three weeks ago and today when the nurse brought his lunch he just stared at it wondering what to do next.
Getting old has it's drawbacks and this old fellow doesn't have much going for him.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Nov-22, 07:30 PM
Good news  my old mate is home, released from QE11 on Friday but has to return periodically for treatment, physio etc .

Big difference is  now he has to largely fend for himself, that's a big change from being waited on hand and foot by nurses eager to please.

No golf or other activities until his left arm does what it's supposed to......still some progress is evident with more to come.

Has lots of friends who visit occasionally or keep in touch by telephone and one  good hearted lady with stars in her eyes who helps out on a daily basis.
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Post by: chuggers on 2011-Nov-22, 09:09 PM
Good onya Arsie,

Just make sure you keep visit him on a regular basis--trust me--that is one of the most important medications--for all people--to have friends around you--all the time--when you are ill....

 :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Nov-23, 07:26 PM
Thanks chuggers :thumbsup:

When he had his stroke his drivers license was suspended but getting back to QE11 for physio isn't a problem,  as he discovered today when a silver service taxi pulled up at the front gate.

The government provides  a silver service taxi at no cost to the patient.

Although it's a relatively short journey the return fare came to $56 today.

Possibly only those living alone qualify for this service which you would think could be provided more economically by the hospital having it's own mini bus.


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Post by: Ascot on 2011-Nov-24, 07:10 AM
Arsenal, QE2 Hosp CEO is a previous workmate of mine and a bloody good bloke.  He would cop no nonsense aboard his ship and I am not surprised to hear good reports about the place.  I last took a look around there in 2010 and found it in good nic, at least for it's primary purpose of delivering health care.  Some things behind the walls you don't want to know about.

Gee that Golf Club of yours looks like it runs almost as well as DD's race club  :whistle: . 
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Post by: Spudda028 on 2011-Nov-24, 07:19 AM
Hope QEII still running well I am popping in there today for my knee arthroscope
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Post by: Spudda028 on 2011-Nov-25, 10:59 AM
Pleased to advise all went well. Couldn't fault staff at QEII
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Post by: monologue on 2011-Nov-25, 11:16 AM
Good to hear spudda.

As they say you can't keep a good man down. 8-)
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Post by: Ascot on 2011-Nov-25, 11:48 AM
See ya back at the ice skating in a couple of weeks then.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Dec-08, 07:58 PM
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pic of my regular team in the BDVGA at Pacific on the 10th tee Monday week......

Pete,Stoney,Me,Westie they are in A grade at the Vets I'm in B and had a win that day 41 points.


pic by Brian the gardener responsible for the background garden.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Dec-13, 06:07 PM
Pacific Golf Club from between the second green and sixth tee looking towards the Par 3 third beyond it is the Par 3 13th the easiest hole on the course.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Dec-16, 07:45 PM
There wasn't any Remuneration Tribunal  in the old days  and I remember once  before the ALP split in Qld in 1957 the pollies got a modest (by today's standards) pay rise and there was an article in the CM or Telegraph about it.The part  which I particularly remember is  that Johnno Mann the Speaker of State Parliament was described as running around the chamber with a party hat on and blowing a tin whistle in great excitement at this financial windfall.

Pollies in those days really earned their money ..no electorate office or staff .. no motor cars funded by taxpayers ...their wives answered their home phone and voters came and rang the bell and were interviewed in the lounge room or on the front veranda.

Today the useless lot we have running the country get more salary and perks than their forebears would have dreamed possible.
One of the grounds the remuneration tribunal increased their pay this time is because  they claim they are more accessible due to social media etc. and are on duty 24/7.  :lol:

Try contacting one out of hours and see how you get on . :o

Johnno Mann was the ALP member for Brisbane,he lived at Spring Hill I think and had come up through the ranks of the AWU before entering parliament.
He was a big burly tough looking guy who favoured braces and generally wore a hat.
He was a real knockabout, if alive  today he would be described as " a colorful character".
During the depression he would walk to parliament handing out two bobs to  any of his constituents who were out of luck and had their hands out.
He got the nickname "Two bob Johnno"

The press gave him a hard time whenever they had a bit of gossip on him ....nothing scandalous...  but he liked a bet and sometimes would be spotted at the dogs or races on a working day and you would invariably read about it the next day in the paper.

I met him once through an introduction from one of my uncles who was in the ALP...I was looking for a job and thanks to Johnno he arranged an interview for me with the Public Service Commissioners office which in those days hired and allocated staff for all the public service departments....and I was appointed to a low level job in the MRD......the start of the best years of my life. :thumbsup:

If Johnno was in office today he would be whooping it up big time and giving that tin whistle a decent workout. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2011-Dec-27, 06:08 PM
Had a game of golf recently with a very personable guy who originally came from Syria.

Talking in the pro shop before the game the pro asked if I had heard the STORY of how he met and married his wife.

Turns out the guy was born in Syria and his wife from the UK.

After they met discussion got around to their backgrounds.

The lady asked the guy about his family.......what they did in Syria.

"Oh they're in Oil'..he replied.....and after a short courtship they married and raised a family.

Turns out it wasn't crude oil you did up outa the ground ......it was olive oil his father sold  from the back of his donkey.

They're still together despite the letdown when he told her the truth. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jan-04, 07:22 AM
Yesterday I finally got around to visiting the State Archives to have a look at the Cabinet papers which are released under the 30 year rule the 1981 series is the latest release.
State Archives  is a very impressive building  located at Compton Rd Runcorn an outer suburb of Brisbane just down the road a little from the site of the promised greyhound racing track that RQL hasn’t delivered on.

Set on spacious grounds surrounded by bushland,manicured lawns and gardens with covered parking for visitors and very helpful staff, records are available right back to the early days of settlement in paper book form but from 1969 they are on microfilm.

As a matter of interest I checked out the last book records in early 1968 and those on microfilm for early 1969.
In 1968 /69 Cabinet dealt with lots of minor issues which I doubt would require their attention these days.

There were lots of routine issues submitted for approval like approving the purchases of several small 4 cylinder cars eg: Ford Cortina or Toyota Corollas  for various agencies and it appears they had some issues with Willys Jeeps, not as reliable then as now.

In those days retirement was at 65 but due to a shortage of secondary school teachers Cabinet approved the appointment of two retired persons in a temporary capacity, the individuals had been born in 1899 and 1900 and had been out of the work force for a few years but were available to fill in, they got the nod from Cabinet and worked at Moorooka at Grade 1 level.

One contentious issue was a request from the State Electricity Commissioner to increase the classification of the position of Senior Industrial Officer to attract suitable applicants when the job is advertised  to replace Mr.Jack Kelly who was about to retire having represented the far North Qld Electricity Boards very satisfactorily for a lengthy period.

This proposal attracted the attention of the Public Service Commissioner who argued against such profligacy  claiming a higher classification of around $5600/$6000 PA was out of kilter with the salaries paid to the PSC’s Industrial Officers who had much greater responsibilities than a few electricity boards.
It was too much for Cabinet they left it to the parties to sort out...in the end I think the Electricity Commission won.

The nominees for the Queen’s Birthday Honours list revealed all but three nominees were approved one poor bugger kicked the bucket between nomination and when the honours were announced so he missed out,  Her Majesty must have thought the other two weren’t up to scratch and they dipped out.

The ILO Convention in Geneva was graced by the presence of H O Muhl  then Under Secretary for the Dept of Labour & Industry after a Cabinet submission outlined the benefits of Harold as head of the Dept  being the only choice, it being customary for the permanent head who had the background knowledge and experience to represent the State by rotation and all at Commonwealth expense.Harold had been a delegate a couple of times previously and had no doubt greatly benefitted from the excursion and was willing to do it all again.

Cabinet decided it would be good for him to visit UK and the USA whilst in the vicinity to discuss labour relations with his counterparts.
Harold no doubt would have personally drafted the recommendation  and  it was signed off on by John Herbert the Minister at this time.

I remember an occasion during The Hon. Herbert’s term when there was an industrial dispute within the prison or maybe mental hospitals I don’t remember exactly and there was a late night conference in the Industrial Commission and some  further negotiations in the Minister’s office where he didn’t have enough chairs to accommodate all the participants....times were tough in those days.The conference went until the early hours and we managed to resolve the issue satisfactorily after a lot of hard bargaining although the details escape me .

I had a few dealings with Harold Muhl in my time with the Union and it was well known if you wanted to contact Harold it had to be in the morning definitely before lunch.Once  after John Herbert passed away at a relatively young age and when Fred Campbell was the Minister I couldn’t reach Harold and got through to Fred instead ....I had hardly put the phone down when Harold was on the phone very diplomatically pointing out that contacting the Minister wasn’t the done thing and in fact he had just been on his way in to the Minister’s office to tell him about the issue I had raised.We finished on good terms now that Harold had set the record straight.

Fred Campbell was a Country Party member, he had been a poultry farmer from out Aspley way I think before entering Parliament, he was a very decent fellow, liked and respected by all sides.

I'll be going back to see if I can find something of interest about the public service and the political process in the good old days. :beer:




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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Apr-03, 09:20 PM
I’ve taken bike riding up again after many months of cycling inactivity.
I want to get fitter as due to a recent injury I have trouble walking at golf after the first 6 or 8 holes...the pain sets in but I have no trouble if I use a buggy.
The problem is fixable but I want to avoid surgery if at all possible although my surgeon said he’s standing by with scalpel poised.....only have to ring him and he'll whip me in. :confused1:

I’ve been riding regularly almost daily for the past few  weeks and I’m really enjoying it.
There is a pretty good bike path close to where I live along Bulimba Creek and there are lots more closer to the City.....Southbank along the river is one of the best over the Goodwill Bridge to the Gardens and along the Riverside walk to Eagle street in the City.

I’ve been over all the bridges now the Inbetween Bridge the Kurilpa Bridge and the Goodwill Bridge no tolls to pay just dodge the pedestrians.
Mostly people are considerate although many of those using Southbank  are possibly tourists  and don’t know the meaning of a shared pathway or keep to the left and don’t block the pathway.

On Friday a fortnight ago  I noticed the seat was unstable but couldn’t  see what the problem was all the nuts were tight and the seat post seemed secure.....until I took hold of the seat and  off it  came still on the seat post  right out of the frame.

Putting it back I rode down  to the bike shop  a couple of kms away but they couldn’t repair it as it’s a suspension seat post with a spring apparatus inside the outer steel or alloy post so I ordered a replacement as they had nothing suitable in stock.
A week went by and no replacement......when I enquired there was no record of the order being placed  so I rang around trying to find a bike shop that had the right size and finally found one at Buranda.

$40 later I had a new suspension seat post...the lady was most complimentary marvelling at the condition of my bike it’s a Shogun hybrid 21 speed a cross between a road bike and a mountain bike .
She asked how old it was I couldn’t remember but I thought about 5 or so years ...”very excellent condition” she purred ‘those I’ve seen at that age are headed for the scrap heap,rust and dings yours is like new.”

When I had a chance I looked up my records and there it was purchased from Capalaba Cycles on 2 April 2002... so yesterday was it’s 10th anniversary. I paid  $385..... today a similar model would be $500+
 
Thinking how lucky  I am to have had 10 years of trouble free cycling I looked a bit closer and noticed the rear brake cable had frayed slightly although the brake worked OK the fragments of wire are a danger if you manage to touch them you’ll draw blood....so I decided to replace the cable and get some new brake rubbers back and front.

In my younger days  when I was riding competitively in the BJACC  I could do this myself but the new models are a bit more difficult so I took the bike up to the local bike shop and left it for the mechanic to fix.
I didn’t ask for an estimate but thought it won’t be much ....$30 tops maybe ..one cable and two pairs of brake shoes....wouldn't cost much about 15 minutes work I thought .....could have done it while I waited .

Crikey was I in for a shock the bill was $65.95......... $39.95 for parts and $26 for labour.
Still should last another 10 years if I’m still around.
Then today while getting into my wife’s car after lunch I noticed the silver stop lock gadget  on the drivers’ side door was missing...just the spring left.
Called into the dealer on the way home to pick up a replacement ....have to order it in for you the guy said..took the Vin number our details and it’ll be there tomorrow...cost $17 for a little bit of chrome mass produced probably at less than 50c.

They must think I'm made of money.......just because I drive a big flash car.  :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Apr-06, 11:04 AM
Watching the US Masters earlier today and Phil Mickelson's trouble losing a ball "in a jungle" which he later said he didn't know existed and that he's never lost a ball before apart from the water...well I can relate to some of that...although I've lost lots of balls ...not only in the water. :tears:

The Fifth hole at Pacific is a difficult but not overlong par4 382m.... rated 1 it's the club's signature hole....there's a 50m wide dam to cross about 150m or so from the green.... surrounded by bunkers ..but the main trouble lies just over the dam on the left side where they've planted small  shrubs  trees and lomandras which is now overgrown with weeds. It's not classed as a garden and invariably if your second shot to the green hooks you're in deep  :crap:
There's also a similar planting on the right a bit closer to the green....but not as dense.

On Wednesday I hit a reasonable drive and had a good chance of hitting the green with my second...had it gone straight...but it sailed off to the left into a more compact  jungle that got Phil into trouble today...cobblers pegs  other rubbish weeds as well as thick closely planted lomandras made it impossible to find my ball ...although I had plenty of company as while I never saw mine again I did stumble on three other lost balls...but the hole was a washout.

Hacker golfers like my good self can take some comfort from seeing the professionals make the same mistakes ...although a lot less frequently than us. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Apr-26, 07:04 PM
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Pacific Golf Club is celebrating its'75th Anniversary this year with a series of events to mark the occasion.

Originally located in Upper Mt.Gravatt close to  where Garden City is today the club sold that land to developers and bought its' current site close to Carindale.

I'll post what I have on the club's history when I find where I put it. :rolleyes:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Apr-30, 08:16 PM
How it all  began, from cow pads to a championship golf course, the beginnings of the Pacific Golf Club  was put together by past Patron the late Bill Boyan and his  former newspaper colleague Merv Warren in 1987 to mark the 50th jubilee of the club.

How the club progressed from scratch in Kessells Rd in 1937 opposite where Garden City Shopping Centre stands today to the opening of the existing course closer to Carindale in 1963 is an incredible story of vision, opportunity and achievement.

What follows is based on Bill Boyan and Merv Warren’s account of those events supplemented with some other facts from the club’s history.

Both men were career newspaper guys. Bill Boyan published a very interesting book on his experiences at the now defunct Telegraph called  “City Final ..........a journalist looks back over 65 years.”

One chapter in the book dealt with the establishment of the original course referred to as the old course.
A meeting at the Brisbane Hotel on the corner of Ann and Wharf streets in 1936 started the ball rolling which led to Pacific Golf club being formed and officially opened on April 3 1937 by the Lord Mayor Alf Jones.

The course was built by Leo McIntyre who had come up from NSW , bought the land bordering Logan and Kessells Road at Upper Mt. Gravatt and turned it into a 9 hole golf course which was later extended to 13 holes and plans were drawn for 18 holes when the transfer to the current site took place.
 
The transformation of wooded acres into a properly laid out nine holes with grass greens was virtually a one-man effort and a monument to Mac himself.
In those earliest days he did practically everything……the mowing, green keeping, the business operations, bartending, the secretarial job, most of the golf organizing, and still found time to be Club Champion.

In getting the project off the ground he had the untiring support of Mrs. Maisie Derrick – she was to become the club hostess, culinary supervisor and playing Captain.

More to come. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-May-01, 12:55 PM
(Dollar values have been substituted for the then prevailing currency pounds.)
How our current course was acquired came about because the clubhouse facilities at Kessells Rd were not up to the standard required and the Licensing Commission had issued an edict to upgrade facilities.
The work would have cost around $18,000 and the club did not  have even $180 in the bank.

In those days entrance fees for members were four guineas ($8.40) and half that for associates, while green fees were around two shillings or twenty cents. The state basic wage at the time was $28 per week.

Despite the lack of funds the President Bill Kennedy was convinced the solution was to sell the old course and buy a new site on which to construct a championship course and clubhouse.

Bill approached Hooker Rex ,a large developer in  those days, which was interested in buying our land providing the price was realistic and that sufficient adjacent land could be acquired to build Brisbane’s first major suburban shopping centre.

Pacific wanted $240,000 for the old course and this was agreed to but first the land had to be rezoned residential and this required skilful negotiations between the club and the Council.

In the meantime after Bill Kennedy had inspected several sites a three month option was taken to acquire land from a Mr. Frank Kingston for $90,000. A deposit of 2/- (20cents) was paid as this was the only money Bill had on him that Sunday morning.

Negotiations between Bill Kennedy, the Lord Mayor Clem Jones and Jim Slaughter the Town Clerk resulted in the Council acquiring 33 feet of the club’s property fronting Creek Rd .

In return the club was promised that the old course would be rezoned to allow the sale to be settled and Kingston’s rural land would be rezoned for use as a golf course. Both promises were fulfilled.

Option day arrived and after a lot of hard bargaining and drinking into the night Mr Kingston accepted the club’s offer of $72,000 for the land, a considerable discount on the asking price of $90,000 which Bill Kennedy explained was “only an option figure”.

Sydney golf course architect Al Howard was appointed to design the course and it soon became evident that more land was needed to achieve the club’s dream of a championship layout.

As Kingston’s land did not include the area of our 11th hole from the big gum tree, or the 12th 15th & 16th holes, a deal was made with the owners Mr and Mrs Gon Chee to purchase 25 acres less 2 1/2 acres on which their house stood.

As work progressed a parcel of 100 acres on the other side of Pine Mountain Rd came up for auction and although the club was financially strapped Bill Kennedy arranged finance up to $50,000 at 10% interest through a friend.

This allowed the club to purchase the land for $40,000 after it was passed in at auction.
A serious drought in 1955/56 which cost RQ a chance to stage the Australian Open motivated the club to install a fully autoumatic watering system at Pacific and to achieve this the 100 acres bought for $40,000 was sold for $100,000.

Bill Kennedy later revealed he did not agree with this decision of the committee to sell as he had dreamed of using this land for a second 18 holes.
 
After repaying $36,000 in debentures taken out in the fifties , funds were available to solve the water problem .

The original water system installed in 1969, after town water was put on in 1964 cost ,$40,910.

A further $25,000 was spent around 1981 and the system was completely upgraded in 1985 and a new pump shed installed.

Bill Kennedy was President of Pacific for a record 14 years and later served as Secretary of the Qld Golf Union ,he was awarded an Order of Australia Medal in 1985 for his services to golf.
 
He died on 10th July 1991 but his memory lives on.□

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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-May-05, 06:50 PM
Further improvements and replacements have had to be made to the irrigation system in recent years at considerable expense and still the greens staff are kept busy digging up problem areas and rectifying them.

Fortunately the club has access to Bulimba creek which wends its’ way through the course and there is a smaller stream Spring Creek which feeds into the storage system, so golfers have to contend with a lot of water hazards which makes Pacific one of the most challenging courses in Brisbane.

There are only four holes without some exposure to water hazards, several have dams to cross so a ball retriever is essential in every bag.

In addition to the main course there is a 9 hole par three course situated on higher ground  overlooking the 10th hole which offers spectacular views of the course and surrounding areas.

Developers have had their eyes on our land at times but apart from selling an unused  section bordering the 15th hole a few years ago to fund essential enhancements the constitution has been strengthened to prevent further sales.

The Gon Chee family who sold the club land bordering a section of Bulimba creek were market gardeners and one Roy Gon Chee trained and drove several handy pacers in the early days of night trotting at Albion Park.
Lee Kingston was another who also trained and drove pacers and may have been related to Frank Kingston.

 Belmont Trotting Stud, a major force in the early days was situated close by in Scrubb Rd. it was  owned and operated by the Knox family and
the land is now a housing estate.

W.D. Knox & Sons  bred many good winners  with the word Belmont in their names, many were exported interstate where night trotting was popular, well before night racing came to Qld in 1968.

After the stud was dispersed I think it operated as a tannery  and I remember finding my way there with the aid of a mud map through unmade dirt and  gravel roads to an auction one Sunday many years ago when the property was being sub divided after the tannery was closed.

The horse I bought  was Little Caduce which was on its’ mark when I bought him cheaply  to race at Rocklea where I thought he would be suited, but he raced without much success and I eventually sold him to a guy in Ipswich.☼
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Post by: dubbledee on 2012-May-06, 11:46 AM
Arsenal, remember RGC very well from early daze at the Creek.  Had maybe blue/red colours.

He trained/drove a very smart 2yo whose name is on the tip of my tung.  ???? Prince

Remember it?
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-May-10, 07:47 PM
Arsenal, remember RGC very well from early daze at the Creek.  Had maybe blue/red colours.

He trained/drove a very smart 2yo whose name is on the tip of my tung.  ???? Prince

Remember it?


Revelling Prince.................maybe......I remember the horse......not sure if that's the one.
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Post by: dubbledee on 2012-May-10, 08:00 PM
That's him.   emthup
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-May-11, 08:55 AM
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Picture of Pacific between the 16th on the right and 17th on the left..........the pond in between

The course is in magnificent condition thanks to the greens staff and the directors who haven't stinted in allowing them the extra funds to do the job.

A couple of weeks ago the club held a six person ambrose during the week of golf to mark the club's 75th anniversary in which our team of hackers finished well out of contention......although on 13th hole my tee shot was only 24cm away which would win the NTP on 99 out of 100 ..but not that day another player won with 7cm.

Still we did OK with the lucky draw............... My red 14 ticket  won 4 rounds of golf at Noosa Springs which we used on Monday...a magnificent course..a great day out thanks to Schweppes the sponsor. :thumbsup:

One of my partners also had some luck winning a golf GPS ....thanks to the Pro shop. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-May-22, 05:57 PM
Golf can be dangerous...as I've found out a couple of times being hit from a crooked tee shot...luckily with no serious consequences.

On Sunday I was the sender rather than the receiver.......on the 12th hole I waited to hit my second shot until the group in front left the green and drove off in their buggies........hit a solid 5 iron  slightly off line....  I heard the THUD  not like the sound when the ball hits a tree ....while I didn't see where the ball hit...I knew it had gone in the direction of the departing players  heading for the 13th tee........my partners on the other side of the fairway had a good view and thought the ball hit the bag section of the buggy.

When I arrived there was no sign of my ball anywhere near the green....I apologised to the guys in front for hitting up on them...no worries we didn't hear or see anything was their response.......the ball didn't stay in your bag by any chance I asked ....they had a look...is it a Srixon? said one returning my ball.

After a discussion where to drop the ball we decided it should be where it hit the buggy where it was being driven off......and that's what the Rules require...in the end I washed the hole but didn't lose the ball....and nobody was injured...had the ball  flight been a foot or two higher it may have hit one or both of the players and caused a  serious injury.

If the players in front had driven off without realising  they were carting my ball with them .........it would have been a lost ball and I would have had to go back and replay the shot ....as it was a stableford I would have washed it rather than waste time for only a point or two at the most.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-14, 05:37 PM
I’ve had some ups and downs over the weekend but the highlight was the wedding of one of our granddaughters Caitlin on Sunday at All Hallows Chapel in the Valley.I’ve never set foot inside All Hallows until Sunday but Caitlin and her sister Kristen both did their secondary schooling there as did my wife many years ago. Caitlin  is a hairdresser and Sam an electrician,  they are a terrific couple.

Caitlin is a beautiful girl with a wonderful nature and she couldn’t wish for a better man than Sam who is quiet and unassuming a hard worker and a very good rugby player..... he is  Captain of Souths Premier League Rugby Union  side this year .

Despite the gloomy weather the rain didn’t interfere with the ceremony or the reception held in the back yard of their recently  renovated  home. Everything went to plan ,the big marquee in the yard kept the rain at bay ......the settings, the dance floor, the band, the catering and a lolly bar..... a table full of jars of lollies rocky road,smarties, sparkles etc ,and lots of decorated patty cakes all organised by Caitlin and overseen by an event manager made it a memorable day. :beer:

The only pics I have I took in the chapel on my phone so the quality isn’t very good but the close up on the cover of the wedding program is better .

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Monday was a wipe out I  intended to play golf with my mate and we were looking forward to it although the weather didn’t look too promising we decided to give it a go.But fate stepped in after I got my golf buggy out and loaded the bag and other gear  it wouldn’t go...... tried everything I could think of  but no response and we pushed it back to the shed  with the help of a couple of other guys and arranged for the mechanic to check it out the next day...turned out the solenoid was gone so he replaced it and it’s now mobile...I’m $150 lighter.

Woke up Tuesday morning with a most unsettling experience......the room was spinning and I was still in bed ......wondered what was happening  to me .....turned over and it was like when you have a few too many drinks the room kept spinning....stayed there for a while and drifted off to sleep  fortunately the spinning stopped......  my wife guessed right ........it was an attack of vertigo .

I made an appointment to see my GP who checked me over  with the verdict I had experienced benign positional vertigo which she said would likely disappear without any treatment...physiotherapy..... manipulation of the neck would be tried first if it happens again to realign the crystals in my ears which apparently  get out of balance and cause the problem.

At the races on Stradbroke day battling my way through the biggest crowd i’ve seen in recent years I ran into the young  trainee pro from the golf club having a day out with his mates......saw him again yesterday on the practice range and he told me he had a good day punting ....was on Mid Summer Music....how did you back that I asked ...he said he had been on it all it’s previous runs and decided to stick when the odds were so good.
He didn't find a nice young lady....to help him spend his winnings......maybe he wasn't looking....lucky for him the cougars who were out in force didn't spot him .......he would be in their sights as he's a good looking young guy.

After hitting a few balls on the range to warm up I altered the set up of my TM driver R11 (the white elephant) from a closed face to neutral and very pleased I did as my game has been very ordinary lately and my handicap has blown out alarmingly.
 
Anyway the new setup worked I had 40 points and was delighted to find that was good enough to win division 2 in yesterday’s comp.The only other win I’ve had was snagging the pro pin $188 a week ago with a easy eight  iron about 80cm's  from the hole...an easy birdie in an otherwise ordinary round.
A few weeks before I was 24cm's from the pin and you wouldn't believe it I was knocked off by a guy only 7cm's away who I played with the following week for the first time...he's a much better golfer than me.
 
Now I’m back I’m hoping the good trot will continue...but on past experience I’ve found the good trot never lasts as long as the run of outs does. :whistle:




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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-18, 07:09 PM
Happy to see the Rugby results on Saturday for Souths 3rd grade easy winners 38/12 over Wests....my grandsons Michael kicked two conversions and his younger brother Nathan scored a try and kicked a conversion. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-19, 05:59 PM
One good turn deserves another ............that  didn't work for me yesterday....played golf at St.Lucia and went to help one of our group find his ball off into the rough....slipped on the grassy bank and fell A over T landing flat on my back........results a badly sprained ankle and a sore knee......and no sign of the lost ball. :tears:

To that point I had been playing really well 21 points for the front nine but it was  too painful to continue after that and finished the round as a passenger.

St.Lucia is just a short drive away from Indooroopilly one of Brisbane's premier courses in the western suburbs.

It's a public access course owned by the Council not a members' club it's not overly long or difficult and in very good condition.

It's been many years since the BDVGA played there and I reckon the committee will be keen to return.

St.Lucia was originally owned by the Indooroopilly club but they did a swap with the Council and developed their own 36 hole course at Long Pocket

My GP said she doesn't think I have any broken bones but if things haven't improved by Friday to get an XRay......she reckons I could be off the course for up to six weeks.......That'll be a test. :o

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Post by: wily ole dog on 2012-Jun-20, 08:52 PM
Arsey, can you please refrain posting anymore photos of Kristin.

I'm an old married man and I don't think the ticker could cope much more. God she's a good sort :beer:
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Post by: arthur on 2012-Jun-21, 03:30 PM
Was at St Lucia golf course last Sat . .

Not to play but for a wedding

Another claim to fame for them . . . well for the 19th hole anyway, would be to sell the dearest beer in Qld

$7.00 for a Carlton Mid stubby  :rant: :beer: :mad:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-22, 01:57 PM
They do stretch ya budget  for food and drink Arthur very expensive but apparently no shortage of customers ...last Monday I noticed most of the outside cafe tables were full at lunch....some of the vets will bring their own lunch next time we go there. :beer:

Kristen is a beautiful girl Wily    .......she is happily married too. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-25, 05:13 PM
Had a haircut at the local barbershop on Friday...first time there for me .......George the barber is a very interesting character.....hardly stops for breath...likes company and as I watched him work I thought this guy knows how to keep customers happy...and is very professional and thorough in the way he cuts hair.

There was one customer in the chair and another waiting as I pulled up outside his shop...another old guy was shuffling along towards the shop but with my sprained ankle I wasn't in too much of a hurry and I thought this guy will be going to the Chemist for medication ...he doesn't look like he needs a haircut...so I hung back...and in he goes ahead of me......another 15 or 20 minutes wasted.

It wasn't a complete waste as I learned quite a bit about prostate problems and costs of operations and the merits of one hospital over another ...then the conversation turned to wills and estate planning and inheritances in the family ......then  the guy ahead of me got in the chair  and he had so many medical experiences I was wondering whether to make a booking for the ambulance to be on standby ......but decided instead to check out George's reading material .

Crikey ..I picked up a copy of "People" a girlie magazine full of pictures of nude and semi naked women and a series of  grotesque tattoed women ..what a turn off ... some of these women would be quite attractive if they hadn't disfigured themselves ....tossed that one and about to see what other offerings were available when it was my turn.

George it turns out is 64 ...he still has his Greek accent ......has been in this shop only a few weeks transferring from his original spot facing Newnham Rd to this one and is up for  an extra $500 a month in rent which he said he'll be flat out covering....maybe he'll have to revise his prices ...which are very reasonable IMO for the amount of time he takes and the care and attention to detail he gives his customers.

$15 for men while pensioners only pay $13....see you next time he said as I hobbled out of his shop to await the critical appraisal of my usual haircutter my wife.....she was most impressed. :beer:
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Post by: Vintage on 2012-Jun-25, 07:29 PM
A, timing of your attendance at the barbershop is very important from my experience.

In my early 20s I moved to my current abode and after a few years started going to Harry the local barber - since stopped.  Similar to your experience he did a good job, didn't charge a lot and was fairly popular.  Everybody got their alotted 'hair cut' time and so ideally you only wanted a person in the chair and a maximum of one other person, otherwise you were in for a wait.  However it was also more important for someone else to come in after you as the 15-20 minute hair cut would go on forever with Harry cutting thin air waiting for his next conversation customer.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-28, 06:55 PM
The first barber I ever went to was Ernie Davis he had a shop at West End  where we lived....apart from once going to a barber named Sep Watt who had a shop on Vulture Street opposite the West End state school......where I got nits...and spent many hours with mum using a fine tooth comb and cracking the little buggers on her fingernails.

I patronised Ernie until he retired......he was on Dornoch Terrace where Caravanserai Turkish restaurant is today and I remember getting my final haircut sitting in his chair before my date with destiny...my wedding the coming Saturday...and he never failed to repeat the story to those waiting their turn ....that "I gave this fella his first haircut....'he was a bugger of a kid...his father had to bring him back the next day to finish the other side...he played up so much he nearly broke me glasses."

Ernie was an old style barber .....proficient with the snippers,the singe, the thinners and the cut throat razor.The only bad experience I had with him was as a little kid....... I had got into the habit of playing with my hair, ooming I called it sucking my bottom lip and twirling my hair with a finger of my right hand ,probably a method to relax or nerves maybe ,but it caused my hair to fall out...and a bald patch developed....my parents decided they had to do something to stop this habit so they took me off to Ernie to shave my head..

I was crying my father was crying and Ernie was crying too...it was the worst thing I had ever experienced at that stage ...lucky I wasn't old enough to go to school...as the tormentors would have had a field day.......anyway in the end the treatment worked ......and my hair returned .........until age made an impact and today there's no new growth on top.

Working in the City I used to go to the barber in the back of our building and when he vacated I would go to his shop at Sunnybank...after I retired I found a good local hairdresser by accident at Annerley  which is close to Tarragindi where we lived .....I had taken a couple of grandkids there for a haircut and was impressed by the way the girls went about their trade...there were 6 or 7 chairs ...they were always occupied and there were clients waiting and ringing for appointments...so that's where I went for quite a few years until my regular girl Helen left to take on something else.

The next few times I went I wasn't particular who cut my hair and then one suggested would I like a number4 to which I agreed..previously it had been a scissors job for me no electric clippers....so I thought I can do this at home...save waiting around ..and now that Helen is gone I bought a Wahl home barber set which my wife manages very well until last week when I gave my business to George on Newnham Road.  :beer:
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Post by: chuggers on 2012-Jun-28, 07:46 PM
Number Two is the trick for me Arsie--I thought about "doing it myself" cause it's just a buzz cut--but I enjoy my Barber--a import from Chile from 40 years ago-knew no English when he arrived-now aged 60--looks 50--fit as--I get a different life story-every time--very interesting fella - and a shave side & back of head--all for $15 FFS.

The only prob he thinks St.George RL team is the ants pants--poor misguided fella.    :lol:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-29, 10:20 AM


Enjoy your hair while you've got it chuggers......it's no picnic going bald on top...although I'm reminded thatgrass won't grow on a busy street. :beer:

And number 2 is getting close to the top...you'll be there soon enough.....like me wearing a hat.  :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jun-29, 06:34 PM
Almost forgot ........the worst barber I ever had anything to do with was the guy running the barbershop when I was conscripted into doing national service at Wacol Army camp when I was 18 or thereabouts.

This guy was a butcher .......we all had to have short back and sides which you would think he could manage without making a mess of  .......but no one was happy....as for hygiene he had never heard of that ...going from one to another without sterilizing the comb or the clippers he didn't use scissors .....would take too long and there were dozens to get through as quick as he could do them. >:(

I was pleased when it was over......and life returned to normal. :wavecry:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-02, 09:33 AM
It’ll be a fortnight  today since I touched a golf club after spraining my ankle at St.Lucia. Having to cope with the rainy weather around for the early part of last week  I’ve  have been housebound  mostly and giving the ankle a rest.

Now it’s on the improve and the return of beautiful sunshine I’m thinking of giving  it a test this week on the Par 3 course, maybe even later today,  as I’m not up to playing today at Riverlakes with the vets and I don’t intend putting myself  under any pressure by trying to play the main course until I feel confident  I can handle it.

On Saturday  in my buggy I  followed my mate and his partner  around in the par3 comp which is run mainly for beginners, but anyone with the $7 fee can play if you’ve got the hide to compete against the inexperienced trying ,but without a lot of success from my observations,to learn what golf is about.Most would be better off spending a bit more and having some lessons.

While the par 3 course is a bit rough with very short narrow holes ,this 9 hole  course only measures about 1000m with  the longest hole  only 150m a straight but narrow hit and is rated number 1.being the most difficult.

There have been several offers in the past to buy the land as it is high and dry with nice views over the main course from the top side and is surrounded by some nice homes in the newer section.Fortunately the golf club has rejected these offers and it’s now not a possibility with the earlier access no longer available due to housing  being built where access could have  been.

Although a bit rough and ready this little course serves the purpose of letting beginners have a hit with others of similar ability without getting into difficulties and holding up other players  on the much more difficult 18 hole course ....golfers are an impatient lot and most hate playing behind hackers who are slow and are always having more hits than they would if they knew what they were doing.

A husband and wife made up the group and while the greens are in poor condition from where they were a month or two ago  they all seemed to enjoy the outing even though bogies and double or triples were their best efforts.

Balls were going in all directions ,hitting trees and  sometimes running through the green, fortunately there are no bunkers or water hazards for them to cope with.

My mate played pretty well near his handicap finishing with 17 points,the other guy with a big handicap had 17 points after 7 holes so he looked to be a good thing to win with only two to go unless his wheels fell off.

I waited until they all hit off on the last hole before leaving and didn’t know the outcome until I received a phone call from my old burglar of a mate who won his division with 17 points and the other guy finished with 19 points which won him the 13 to 45 division.

My mates partner had a win too in the up and downs, no matter how many strokes it takes on a hole if you manage to get on the green for one and sink the putt that’s an up and down.

So I had the pleasure of spending time with some winners and filling in an hour or so instead of watching the slowcoaches ploughing through the heavy going on the Sunshine Coast.

Maybe next week maybe  I’ll take my chances and join the comp....after seeing if I can get around it today without anyone watching. :shutup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-02, 07:14 PM
Two weeks away from the game and you would think I’ve never played before the way I went today.

I started on the third due to a group of young kids on holidays taking forever to finish the first hole.

Almost shanked my first shot  it went sideways towards the second fairway hit a wedge over the trees missed the green chipped out from the bushes over the green finished with seven.

The next hole not much  better got a 5.

By this I was thinking I had should have known better than to play with a crook leg but it was a nice day and no players behind to pressure me so I carried on.

Cutting a long story short I improved a little from there  making 2 pars and 5 bogies for 38 off the stick or 11 over ...not a good score......although I did manage two up and downs........and the greens were very patchy........still it'll be the same for everyone .......and I must  improve before Saturday to avoid embarrassment .

On a brighter note my ankle held up well it was strapped and I used some glucosomine cream to help  but I wasn’t game to hit any full swings . :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-03, 09:48 AM
Bad news for the golfers with bad legs sore feet or other health issues  buggies have to stay on paths up until Friday.

Course Update - Monday 2/7/12


The Pacific Golf Course is open for play with the following local rules in place until Friday 6/7/12:
1. Motorised carts to stay on cart paths at all times - Players MUST walk out to your ball as the course is extremely wet
2: Preferred Lie Through the Green

Thanks
Bob Locke
Captain
Pacific Golf Course

 


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Post by: Skybeau on 2012-Jul-03, 11:37 AM
Bob Locke
Captain
Pacific Golf Course

Bobby Locke would have been close to you era by the sounds of it Arsenal, great player.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-03, 05:59 PM
Same name but that's where it ends....still Bob's OK......not easy being Capn....golfers are hard to please :rolleyes:

Crikey....I'm not that old.........Arthur D'Arcy "Bobby" Locke (20 November 1917 – 9 March 1987) was the first internationally successful South African professional golfer. He won four Open Championships.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-04, 07:01 PM
Spent an hour or so up on the Par3 this afternoon... solitude..... absolute peace and quiet...nobody in sight ....even the crows had departed...started slowly with a 5 on the first hole with3 putts .......I managed to reduce the putting to two a hole until the 7th when I had another 3 putts.... made up for that lapse on the next with a par and only  1 putt ......finished with 19 putts which isn't very flash but considering the greens I shouldn't expect any better.

Decided to play the course again and almost holed out on the first about 8inches from the pin an easy birdie.
Apart from stuffing up the 8th hole with a six I did a lot better this time around taking 15 putts ....overall I had 5 up and downs....still plenty of room for improvement .....and while the ankle held up well I doubt I could manage 18 holes on the main course just yet.

Still it's good to be out and about and that there's a short course available whenever I feel up to it. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-05, 08:08 PM
Played another round today.....apart from washing the second with a triple (6) I didn't do too bad....my best round yet finished with 1 birdie 3 pars and 4 bogies..

On the second my ball hit a tree and while I searched everywhere it was nowhere to be found so had to hit another and had the worst score of the round.

After playing 9 I decided to have one more go on the second using a different club...this time a 9 iron which finished on the Green and I got the putt...which sent me home happy.

As I don't have a Par3 handicap I have to put one competition card in to get one ......on my score today the Pro said he thought they would give me 6 shots...that'll be something to look forward to. :beer:

One thing I forgot was to take my camera ....maybe I'll remember tomorrow.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-06, 07:12 PM
Nice fine sunny day but very windy made the Par3 more difficult than usual today.

Had some company  for a change a group of 6 or 7 young kids playing in a group ahead of me were having lots of fun chasing their balls all over the place under the watchful eyes of two women driving a golf buggy.

They asked if I wanted to go through but I decided it would be better to not play the third hole and  get in front of them rather than hold up other players just starting.

Finished with 3 pars 3 bogies on double and a triple on the last when I sliced my tee shot out of bounds on to the practice fairway which runs parallel .

Overall 32 off the stick for the 8 holes...will need to improve if the comp is on tomorrow depending on the weather.

[attachthumb=#] 9th hole practice fairway is on the right.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-06, 07:21 PM
Friday ritual when the time sheet opens in the members' bar for Saturday week.......members sign in and at 10.30 the draw for barriers takes place if you get a low number just like the races you will get a spot.....only half the times are allocated in the morning draw ......the other half reserved until 6pm to give those still in the workforce their chance. :beer:

The demand is greater than the supply and members often miss out ......and depend on cancellations on the day.

Lots of follicley challenged heads in today's lineup.  :lol:

[attachthumb=#]
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-08, 04:42 PM
Yesterday despite the showers forecast which didn’t eventuate I was able to compete, if you could call it that, in the Par3 comp in order to put in a card and get a handicap.I  had a very ordinary round 36 off the stick and my handicap is now 5.

The best score in the 0 to 13 division was a nett 25,one of the 2 ladies in our group won, also with a nett  25 on a handicap of 19 in the 14 to 45 division for her first ever victory.

If my ankle is OK I might try the comp on the main course next week although I pulled up a bit sore this morning after yesterday’s effort so I’ll will have to see how it goes during the week.

The greens were very poor and although I managed to hit the greens OK most of the time I had too many three putts  all due to the uneven and patchy surfaces which have deteriorated considerably from what they were like a couple of months ago.

Today  I emailed the GM drawing his attention to the poor state of the greens compared to the main course and the practice green which is in the best condition I’ve ever seen.

The tees are also worn and marked with divots and also need attention although it’s not as  big a problem as the greens as most golfers use a tee to hit off. I think  it’s more of a presentation issue  but should still be fixed.

There’s no excuse for the club to present the Par 3 course in inferior condition as it’s not over used like the main course is every day of the week it gets no rest .The Par3 is virtually empty through the week and used mostly by juniors and beginners or visitors at the weekend who most likely won’t return if the course isn’t properly maintained.

Prior to the comp with some time on my hands I had a few hits on the range with some demo irons from the Titleist and Cobra demo day...I didn’t like the look or feel of the Cobra AMP iron but the forged  Cobra iron I hit felt very sweet..... the Titleists  I hit didn’t do it for me and my own Pings feel a lot better.
Cobra/Puma  has a lot of colourful clothes and shoes which will appeal to the colour conscious this season.
I’m in for a new pair of Puma spikeless golf shoes subject to the price being right.

While browsing in the pro shop I overheard a conversation between one of the pro’s and a young kid a tiny little fellow who looked no more than 14 had them ring his father asking him  to approve the kid ordering a new Titleist driver..they couldn’t give him a firm price until they placed the order but he was told it would likely be $495 or $449 I’m not certain which........quite amazing that this young kid could spend that amount of money when most kids his age would have a set of hand me downs like many of the top professionals  did when they were about his age.

Prior to golf I had a 6 horse all up but after listening to one supposed expert radio tipster in the morning  I was swayed into his tip instead of sticking to my own......my other 5 all saluted...his is still coming ......so no more listening to radio 4TAB selections for me. :chair:
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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2012-Jul-08, 06:22 PM

I’m in for a new pair of Puma spikeless golf shoes subject to the price being right.

While browsing in the pro shop I overheard a conversation between one of the pro’s and a young kid a tiny little fellow who looked no more than 14 had them ring his father asking him  to approve the kid ordering a new Titleist driver..they couldn’t give him a firm price until they placed the order but he was told it would likely be $495 or $449 I’m not certain which........quite amazing that this young kid could spend that amount of money when most kids his age would have a set of hand me downs like many of the top professionals  did when they were about his age.



Get that kid's father to adopt you.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-13, 02:48 PM
Inclement weather is interfering with our golf......the course is extremely wet...and although it's fine and mild today...more rain is forecast ..so Saturday's comp may be in doubt.

As it is all golf buggies must stay on the pathways and players have to walk to their ball.....while it slows the game it does preserve the course...and those who walk with a push buggy aren't affected.

I was lucky to beat the rain yesterday aftyernoon ...played a quick 9 up on the Par 3.....apart from a slight drizzle I got in high and dry...before driving home in the rain.

Only sighted a couple of others playing but I did run into a couple of women out for a stroll pushing a stroller with a baby and their border collie which was running free......it appears they live adjacent to the course and are in the habit of walking the course  so I was told .....although they have been warned it's not a public park and with many inexperienced golfers hitting all over they are taking a risk .................although while it's as quiet as yesterday they were pretty  safe with only me hitting.......as straight as an arrow mostly.

Today there's a corporate day Motorline BMW takes over the main course from noon so only a morning comp for members...and not too many starters.

Up on the Par3 again this morning only the ground staff mowing the tees and greens for company...had a good round too 34 off the stick ...could have been a couple better with more luck on the putting green.

Tomorrow if it's fine or only light rain I'll have a go in the Par3 Comp and hope to better my other efforts through the week.  :beer:
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Post by: ratsack on 2012-Jul-13, 10:21 PM
...before driving home in the rain.
in the golf cart  :/
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-14, 09:39 PM
in the golf cart  :/

No .......  :lol:
There are quite a few members with restricted registration...who drive short distances to and from the course...it's a lot cheaper than the shed fees keeping one on course.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-15, 11:26 AM
Very dull day in Brisbane today not conducive to any outdoor activities...... yesterday despite the dismal weather forecast which didn't eventuate it was quite a good day..........although for me had mixed blessings.

Played with a married couple from Cleveland in the Par3 comp and had the worst round ever....no good under pressure ...was a favoured saying of my old boss  T J Wallace....although it was lack of skill and  bad luck ...than any pressure that led me to have 39 hits on a 9 hole course with a  Par rating of 27 .

I was going OK until the 5th a short downhill hole which drops away at the back to brush, weeds and rubbish short of  the fences of houses behind the hole ..........never found my ball and as a stroke round had to return to the tee...... finished with a triple.
Then on the 8th I hit a tree and never found the ball...back to the tee another triple.
Hit a cracker on the last dead in the middle of the green...only three putt of the day...had one par.....very forgetable.

Bryan from Cleveland was playing well until the last when he experienced a touch of my misfortune ... his tee shot hit a tree and he didn't find the ball...back to the tee and had a 7 that was the end of him.
His wife a very pleasant lady is only learning but accepted  her medicine with good humour.

While in the Pro shop afterwards three young visitors  with  three clubs each in their hands lined up to pay for a round on the Par3 ...one was wearing  a tee shirt which isn't accepted even on the short course...shirts must have a collar.....one  asked if John the pro could turn a blind eye this once....they looked a decent group and didn't argue....so he gave one a loan of a shirt ...so instead of spoiling their plans ...and costing the club their business he made a good decision.

John  from Scotland would be in his mid to late twenties I guess...... his wife is a golf pro too and they have recently had a baby.
He has a broad Scottish brogue and when he first started he had trouble with calling some of the names ...but having mastered that I enjoy hearing his voice  on the PA calling the field a really nice sounding Scottish accent .

Picked up my new Puma shoes...very flash white with silver side spashes and orange spikeless soles ...$115 down from RPP $129.

Checking the race results at home didn't bring any joy...only had a three all up....two arrived but the middleleg is still coming.

My wife had a good day though...picked up a decent four figure pokies jackpot at the local club .....so instead of vegemite or sharing a tin of baked beans ..she shouted our dinner at the local pub....and a very good meal too...the place was packed...will be going back sometime soon. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-19, 05:58 PM
Popped in to George's barber shop today....it's four weeks tomorrow since the last clip and snip....I never go that long between haircuts...my wife reckons my first haircut from George is the best I've ever had...I think she's trying to convince me to make it a permanent arrangement with George  ....so she won't have to do it. :rolleyes:

Anyway no George.....he's off  today for a medical appointment .......I thought about  coming back tomorrow as I had some reservations would this guy be as good as George.......not that I've got a lot of hair but  I like to keep the little I have looking reasonable.

But with no one waiting and one guy in the chair I would have had to come up with an excuse  so I decided to take my chances with the new guy.

I watched him working on  the man ahead of me and he was very particular so I flicked through a People mag full of nudes while keeping an eye on the  progress in front......trying to think of an excuse to leave if the end result wasn't to the client's liking......but in the end he did a pretty good job and it was my turn.

I didn't tie him down with instructions and he didn't muck it up......although he cut it  a bit shorter than George did ......the prices have gone up only slightly a $1 increase ...no doubt due to the increase in rent imposed since George was relocated from his original site.

It looks  like it would be  tough making ends meet .... with the hike in rent .....in the time I was there were only three clients in one hour ......an hourly rate of less than $50 which wouldn't be maintained every day ...still George looks like he is a stayer...in for the long haul...I hope so for both our sakes. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-20, 09:38 AM
Heard an interview on radio yesterday about General MacArthur  and the US troops  arrival in Brisbane in  July 1942 the 70th anniversary of which is being remembered  this coming Saturday.
The talk got around to how many of the Aussie girls were attracted to the Yanks ...some even got married  to them and  a boatload of women sailed to America on a war brides ship... some never to return.

One of my cousins on my father’s side married a GI from one of the Southern States and as far as I know they  lived happily ever after.

The wide ranging  radio discussion touched on the precautions soldiers used when fraternising with the locals, one asked were condoms issued ......probably so...... but those who  weren’t so cautious  and were infected with  VD, and in those days  this  required a spell in hospital.

This reminded me of  a guy from West End where I grew up. It was a typical working class suburb where the majority lived from week to week apparently with no great aspirations and as the kids left school they got a job, few qualified to go on to Uni  just across the river at St.Lucia.

Most families didn’t own a car, almost everyone walked or rode a bike or caught a tram if going to work outside West End or to the City or the Valley  shopping. There wasn’t any railway only the trams, destination West End or Hill End one of which stopped at Dornoch Terrace the other finished at the ferry terminal on the river at the Orleigh.

There were good facilities in West End and  there wasn’t any great demand to go outside the suburb.  We had Davies Park, Souths Rugby League Football Club ,Davies Park Baths , Orleigh  Park on the river, the Rialto and the Lyric picture shows screening  three nights a week , the School of Arts & Library, the Boundary Hotel,  St.Francis Catholic Church and convent school, the West End State School, Ernie Davis’s barber shop,doctors and dentists,Brandon’s boot shop,Couvases’ Fish Shop,a couple of hamburger joints,Moretti’s Grocery,Claude Best’s Butchery,Chrissy Drake’s,Asmar’s dressmaking factory, Assaf & Fooda Tailors, the Gas Works,  Dixon’s Boot Factory,  Bryces Carrying Co  and many other industries along Montague Rd  plus a couple of brothels set well away in the back streets off Montague Road  the area now occupied by office blocks and high rise apartments.

 One of the old time legendary characters in West End, was a guy named Jimmy Ingram, his claim to fame was he was known as the “Pox doctor”.
He was employed  by the State government in the VD Clinic for men where anyone unfortunate enough to have caught a dose of the clap went for treatment.

I never met Jimmy Ingram but as a kid growing up  knew him by sight 
I often saw him walking up Victoria St to catch the tram to work.

 Many years later in my role as Asst Industrial Officer with the Union  I  had to visit the Enthetic Diseases Clinic where many years before Jimmy Ingram had applied his skills.
I had been sent there by the General Secretary to deal with an industrial issue involving some of the staff who were  members of our Union.

I have only a vague recollection of the clinic the building wasn’t signed as I recall  and the entrance  was hidden away in a laneway  somewhere off Adelaide St  on the other side of Queen St  up towards Petrie Bight near where the Wharfies’ club was.
The clinic was in a  nondescript  building  situated   out of the way so as not  to attract attention or  embarrassment  to those attending  who  were  there for treatment  of  sexually transmitted diseases.

That was one place I’m pleased I had no cause to attend in my personal capacity......and there were quite a few others  which I visited in my job  which were worse ..... like the DPI Animal Research Institute at Yeerongpilly where experiments were carried out on animals.....the place had a  smell about it....which took a few days to forget......not a good place to work.  :bye:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-27, 05:18 PM
Airport link is finally opened...some time later than expected costing three or four of the BrisConnections executives a substantial reduction in their promised performance bonuses.......tough titty :rolleyes:

If ever there was a LEMON BrisCon has to be it.... >:(........guest columnist in the CM today,a transport consultant and writer, did some calculations resulting in the conclusion that Airport Link costing $4.8 Billion mostly borrowed ....interest of an estimated $400K a day, adding operating costs of $60K means some 94,000 vehicles paying the full rate of $4.90 a day would be required just to meet those costs let alone overheads........maintenance repairs and renewals...he concludes that this project is heading for insolvency sooner rather than later............. :o

And the bad news is that the QIC very thankfully for the Bligh guvment opted to take this most dubious investment opportunity into it's portfolio so that the QSuper scheme will bear the losses.

Speaking of QSuper I decided to make a withdrawal from my account .....before filling  in the form I contacted them and was told the form had been changed ........mine was an older  version and may not be acceptable...but to go ahead and send it in ...they offered to send me a current form ....but it would take up to 5 days for me to get it......and seeing I hadn't made a withdrawal since 2008 I need to send a copy of my drivers licence or passport...and have it endorsed by a JP or Police officer.....this is a legislative requirement apparently...to protect members from fraudulent activity.  :o

They have my details on file my signature... bank account... email..... telephone yet I had to go and provide a copy of my driving licence...wot a lot of rot. >:(

I do recall a year or so back someone maybe an insider got into the fund and ripped off some clients...with all members' details on file it could still be happening...licence or no licence. :chair:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-28, 08:46 AM
I noticed on another thread a reference to the late Fred Daly and I couldn’t  resist the opportunity to speak up in his defence.
I only met Fred Daly the once , it was towards the end of his political career,he was the guest speaker at a political fundraiser for a friend of mine and it was a delight to meet him and  listen to so many anecdotes of days gone by which we will never witness again if the current crop of pollies is any indication.

Fred Daly was a Federal  politician for donkey's years, first elected in 1943.He  came from NSW in the Chifley era.. was a Minister for a time and Leader of the House ......one little snippet illustrates how  vastly different life in Canberra was  in those days to the utopian conditions enjoyed today.  Ben Chifley lived in a six bob a night bed and breakfast pub, the Hotel Kurrajong,  and  never  locked his door in twenty years.

I bought Fred’s book  at auction the night when I met him  .....The Politician Who Laughed .....autographed by him and dated 26 April 1986 a few days after my 50th birthday.......and it was either at this function or in his book  that I first heard or saw the quote I have attributed to him ever since........from memory it went something like this .................”Whenever  the hip pocket nerve is concerned you can put your money on Self Interest........... it’s always trying.”

This book is full of political asides,anecdotes and good old fashioned humour...one concerns his support for the local league team at Marrackville oval where he attended on Saturday afternoons and meeting a couple of constituents.................Fred wrote ..........”As I walked through the gate I noticed a lady looking at me ,and not wishing to offend ,I approached her and said,”How are you?”

She replied, “Very well,thank you ..................She then turned to her daughter ,who was at her side and said,  ...........”Doreen,  you remember Mr. Miller our local butcher don’t you ?’

“Of course , said Doreen ,”but as a matter of fact I hardly recognised you without your white coat and chopper.”.....

Such is fame.”

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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Jul-29, 12:24 PM
Yesterday I gave the injured ankle a decent workout on the 18 hole main course......due to some wet spots  on a few fairways all golf cars had to stay on the cart paths and players had walk to the  ball which was I found very tiring seeing it has been 5 weeks since I played and walking from one side to the other most of the time isn't as enjoyable as when normal conditions apply.

Most players agreed that the course has improved a lot and apart from a couple of areas ......allowing cars on fairways wouldn't damage the course.....if the only wet areas were restricted to pathways everyone would be happy.

The captain has the final say in consultation with the course superintendant.

While the ankle stood up pretty well....it was a a tough day ..not just for me but for the rest of our group and most members I spoke to agreed ....a really tough day with no run and the rough a lot longer than usual.

I lost count of the number of three putts I had ..... on the 11th a par 5 ......I hit a good drive a rescue to the 100m marker and  a nine iron to the green but three putted for a bogie 6   worse was to come when  I managed to make a four putt on another relatively easy hole.......very discouraging....finished with 22 points.

The day wasn't a complete write off...backed a couple of winners.....but missed an all up with only 3 out of four arriving. :tears:

It'll be intersting to see if the carts on paths only rule applies tomorrow when I'm due to have a hit with the BDVGA....the club captain and the vets guy  aren't exactly too fond of each other...so with  another drying day the course should be OK ...... it would be perverse to  continue the current rules resulting in many of the old guys cancelling..... costing both clubs revenue and there'll be a lot less players. :shutup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Aug-02, 07:42 PM
No let up for the Vets on Monday buggies on cart paths only... while we were all sticking to the rules as ridiculous as we thought them to be......

 ...Lo and behold here comes the Cap'n with a team from the AGU doing a course audit...as large as life driving their buggies down the middle of the fairways....and that could have been the rule for everyone. :o

On Wednesday all restrictions lifted with the 90 degree rule in force...... a welcome although belated concession.

Only had 22 points Monday improved a little yesty had 19 on the front nine but only 10 on the back......still more improvement to come. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Aug-10, 10:37 PM
Bought myself a new golf buggy this week......very swish Moonstone Metallic...[attachthumb=#]a silver grey/blue and used it in the Friday comp today...hadn't finished the first hole when I noticed a rattling noise coming from the rear right wheel...pulled the hub cap off to investigate and found one of the wheel nuts had come off and another was about to....with no tools I tightened them as best I could with my fingers and carried on until reaching the 5th hole where I ask the mechanic in the machinery shed to lend me his wheel brace.

Drove in but the shed was deserted...... after a few minutes a couple of young guys arrived and the went looking for the tools...eventually found one that fitted....and I watched them try as they might but they couldn't tighten the nuts at all...crikey I must be a lot stronger than I thought if my finger tighten couldn't be made any tighter.

Thanked them and drove off....when it finally dawned on me I had removed the left hub cap instead of the right one....fortunately we made it to the clubhouse where one of my partners had a wheel brace which did the job.

I rang the dealer when I got home ...he had never heard this happening before ...blamed the factory...as he said they don't do pre delivery checks themselves which I found a bit hard to believe....but he is sending his mechanic out to check all the nuts and bolts just to make sure there are no more surprises.

The golf was pretty difficult ..strong winds ....very ordinary 27 points but i did manage to win the pin shot on the 13TH so the day wasn't a complete write off.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Aug-13, 09:34 AM
Souths had a BIG day out on the rugby field Saturday almost scooped the pool......losing only one game. :no1:

In the Premier League Souths  blitzed Sunshine Coast 58-6....Wallaby Quade Cooper playing for the club two weeks in a row scored one try and kicked 3 conversions. :clap2:

In the Premier Colts  comp Souths 33  D  Logan City 21 :clap2:

Second Grade Souths 31 D Logan City 5 :clap2:

Third grade Souths 33   D Logan City 12 ........  :clap2::..........but Fourth grade Logan City 33 D Souths 17 :tears:

Brisbane Colts 2 Souths 26 D Uni 10 :clap2:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Aug-23, 06:12 PM
I've nominated for the Golf Club Board  in the coming elections ........and to date I'm the one and only nominee.....hope I haven't frightened any aspiring newcomers  off.......as I think it's time for a change ...although it's very difficult to attract younger members to take on the role...there are a couple of younger(than me) guys who I'll support.......but they haven't lodged their nominations yet.

While it's been a few years since I've been in harness I haven't rusted away completely and I'll give the sitting members a run for their money.

This afternoon I was bringing myself up to date with rules and meeting procedures as I have several amendments to the rules to put to the AGM for members to consider.....I came across this little anecdote concerning two guys in a bar supporting different candidates for the presidency of a tennis club...the story went something like this........

These two guys tried but failed to convince one another to switch sides......

Finally one said to the other"It's clear we are unalterably opposed ...our votes will simply cancel each other out...Why not agree to stay home and not turn up to vote ?"

The other guy considered this for a moment  before he agreed enthusiastically to this plan and he departed.

Shortly after another member at the bar who overheard the conversation  approached the first guy commenting..."That was a jolly good sporting gesture you just made."

'Not really'.... was the reply..."That was the tenth time I've done this today."  :chin:

That tactic won't work at our election it's by postal ballot ..........only full  financial members have the right to vote...I don't know what percentage actually fill in and return the ballot ...as the number of votes cast is never revealed....only the names of the successful candidates are announced.

We submit a profile which is circulated with the election material to give members details of our background and experience and wait patiently for the declaration at the AGM. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Aug-29, 08:47 AM
Crikey....I started something here....according to one of the voters who visited the golf club yesterday...rang to say there are 12 nominations for the board... which if his count is correct is unprecedented....and there's still a week to go before noms close. :o

It looks like there'll be more starters than go around in the Cox Plate........but no payday for everyone....only four vacancies...so most of us will be disappointed or relieved. :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Aug-29, 08:11 PM
Ya can't rely on anybody who counts nominators and seconders as well as candidates... :rolleyes:

Checked the notice board for myself today at the club there are 6 nominees including one who is also seeking election as Treasurer presently he's on his own ...current Treasurer not yet nommed but could make it by Tuesday's deadline. :sweat:

Two other sitting members not in yet. :o

If things stay as they are only one of the current candidates will miss out.......alphabetically I'm in good shape if there's  a donkey vote . :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Aug-30, 06:13 PM
I had a day out at golf yesterday in the second round of the Wednesday club's championships....a net 67...which could have been a bit better only for a couple of wrong choices during the day.

Hit one of my best drives ever on the 5th  finished only about 30m or so from the dam....pulled out my 4 wood and hit it into the drink.....finished with a triple...could have hit a wedge to get over the dam another to the green with a chance of making par or bogie at worst. :bash:

Then on the Par3 7th hit my tee shot out of bounds reloaded and finished in the bunker ..walked off with six. :shutup:

Very surprised to see  in the results that I managed to win Div 2...all's well that ends well. :beer:

I find it hard hitting a three wood off the deck...so got myself a 17degree 4 wood which should work and generally does ...except when trying to get over a water hazard....Pro thinks a Ping G20 would suit better...so I'll try one my mate has when he's not using it. :whistle:
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Post by: Ascot on 2012-Sep-01, 10:41 AM
This golf thing seems too stressful Arsenal, what with faulty moonbuggys, lousy strokeplay and board politics.  You know where that sort of stuff led DD to.  Why don't you just start hanging about pool halls and racetracks like normal people.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Sep-05, 08:50 AM
Stress is good Ascot.......a little but not too much ..... :beer:

Valium helps. :whistle:

Talking about stress I've got the incumbents under stress...in the golf club election .

Late yesty with only a few hours to close of noms there were 10 candidates for 4 positions.

Some of us are bound to be disappointed others relieved ...depending on our point of view.

Unable  to find the blackbook thread but no luck so here goes...spotted SABRAGE in Melb R7 looked very unlucky went to the line untouched...I know it has been disappointing previously ...but IMO is worth following this prep in the right class.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Sep-08, 05:56 AM
I'm backing my namesake today Diamond Jim in the distance race at WF caught the eye last time with a strong finish and looks suited at the distance. :beer:

Meanwhile golf club members will soon receive the Annual report & financials together with the election material....one of my running mates is seeking to take over as Treasurer...he has outstanding qualifications....and  voters are bound to be  impressed......there are around 750 eligible voters......but only a small minority less than 50% bother to exercise their rights.......apathy abounds.....except here. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Sep-24, 09:22 AM
The  10 horse field in the race  for election to the golf club board is in the home straight ...close to the post......from what I hear some are under the whip...and struggling to stay in touch.

The ballot box will be opened today at noon and the votes counted....with the result announced at the AGM tomorrow night.............only 4 of us earn a seat in the boardroom ...which is reasonably comfortable by golf club standards.

There's bound to be disappointment when the chosen few are announced....but I don't expect to see any blood on the floor.

I'm very relaxed...I've run a clean campaign......concentrating on the issues ....and win or lose ...I'm satisfied I did my best .....I appear to  have a lot of support.......whether it's sufficient to unseat the incumbents......we'll know soon enough.

There are 8 motions on the Agenda ......... one from the board to introduce a house account of $300 to be spent in the clubhouse.....which might be touch and go to get over the line.

There's one from another member seeking that all golfing members get a vote ...presently only full members do...5 and 6 day members don't nor do the ladies....I think it's reasonable......but there will be resistance.

All the other motions are mine....agreement has been reached that I'll  withdraw two of them on the basis of acceptable undertakings which achieve what the motions set out to do.......and some compromises have been reached on the others but require a vote by the members to be adopted.

Today I'll put the finishing touches to my submissions.......and hopefully we'll get an outcome which we can all live with. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Sep-27, 05:44 PM
I've been very busy since the AGM....being elected to the board  is no picnic as I found out...I wasn't expecting all these boardroom lunches and I've only just started...still someone has got to do it...very arduous.....especially when you're not used to it.  :lol:

Only 128 in attendance...still a much bigger number than came to the last two.....and only two of the motions were lost ..one of mine and the other about extending voting rights  which failed to gather much support.

Two of the incumbents lost their seats and my running mate got in as Treasurer .....so there are 4 new faces on the board.

We'll need to promote  the house account  which is $300 for members and $500 for couples .......and make it as acceptable as possible to the 5 and 6 day members and Associates ....... as they are non voting members the first they'll know about it is when the motions are posted on the notice board or they receive individual emails advising  the outcome of the meeting ...... for them see they'll  get their money's worth ........ and allow periodic payments or direct debits ...to suit individual circumstances.

Ideally the house account will  reinvigorate the clubhouse with increased patronage.......we don't want to lose any members  over this or it'll all be in vain ......if some  resign or look to join another club........once the club takes over the restaurant which is expected to be early November.......all money spent in the clubhouse apart from gaming will benefit the club and all members...fingers crossed. :beer:
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Post by: Ascot on 2012-Oct-16, 07:07 PM
Arsenal, those Boardrom lunches were the downfall of DD and moi.  They are simply bad for your health.  Resist if you can and just suffer a Jatz with vegemite and a glass of water.

Congrats
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Post by: ratsack on 2012-Oct-16, 07:38 PM
Arsenal, those Boardrom lunches were the downfall of DD and moi.  They are simply bad for your health.  Resist if you can and just suffer a Jatz with vegemite and a glass of water.

Congrats

Ascot we have hardly seen him since  :chin:
Didn't even turn up for the knock out comp on the weekend   :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Oct-17, 11:09 PM
I forgot ......wouldn't have done any good though.....better luck next time......maybe. :bye:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Nov-03, 09:09 AM
Played golf with the $15M Gold lotto winner last Monday at NorthLakes.......how he won was a fluke .......45million chances and he drew the only winning combination with a $7 quickpick......he was working in the City and to clear his head stepped out of his office and went for a stroll  .......passing a newsagent he  had the inspiration to decide to buy a ticket in the Lotto draw that night.......he bought  the cheapest one available.....Thank You very much....

Next morning he gets a call to say he's the only winner ......has now retired from his job ...was intending to go  later this year but the win advanced his plans.....this newfound wealth hasn't affected him ..still a very nice unassuming guy with a great SOH and still possess the luck of the Irish.....when he bought the drinks at the bar ...he won an underwater torch with one of those scratchy tickets they were giving away......when it was my shout all I got was what I paid for. :beer:

It wasn't just luck but raw talent and golfing ability boosted by a nice little handicap advantage over our  opponents which allowed us to give them   a drubbing in the match and walk away with  a little of their hard earned. :thumbsup: 

NorthLakes is a very good course in exceptional condition and well worth a visit. :no1:
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Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2012-Nov-03, 11:39 AM
Was thinking of buying a ticket in Tuesday's Oz Lotto. But decided against when I was advised that the chances of dying on the way to purchase same was greater than the chances of winning it.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Nov-26, 08:10 AM
Sad to see in the Death notices the name of an an old school mate Nesti Kaluchi he was born in Albania but lived for most of his life in Australia.

I haven't seen him or kept in touch since we were schoolmates at  primary school ...but I can still picture him as if it were yesterday when we were both young, fit and healthy...he was short stocky and strong a really good looking young guy...I don't know what he did in life after leaving school...but he was buried from his local church in South Brisbane where he lived when I knew him...he was one year older than me and died from cancer. :rip:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Nov-26, 11:19 PM
Since I retired I've enjoyed playing in veteran golfers' competitions .......run by the BDVGA.....for many years I never missed a game but lately I restrict my entry to courses which  have more appeal........and nowadays they play almost every Monday which is more than many of us want....today we  played at my home course Pacific and it was a most enjoyable day....I finished with 36 points.

My partner was an old horseman...8 years my junior but looks a lot older than he is.......he won the pin shot on 17 getting it under a metre which was good.......we combined reasonably well being 2 up with 2 to go....... but our early lead, having won 4 in a row, was reduced to one up coming to the last which our opposition managed to win so the match was all square which is often the best result for all concerned ...we don't need the money. :whistle:

After the game  the BDVGA held its AGM and the President spoke long and longer and the crowd was getting restless waiting for the free beer......to be fair he did a good job even if a bit longwinded and as usual I raised the question why they need to accumulate the $26K in kitty...most of us will be dead and gone before it is spent ....much better to improve the prizes and be more generous with ball rundowns......I got the usual applause but no commitment that it'll be any different next year. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Nov-27, 07:27 PM
Off to the cardiologist tomorrow for an echo cardiograph.......doesn't have a great bedside manner ..but very thorough .....he reminds me a bit of Doc Martin to some extent ..not rude but a bit abrupt and very sparing with info...he took my BP twice.."how is it?" I asked  it has been a bit low causing me to be a little giddy when I get up from the table...."it's normal" he said..."what's normal?" I asked ..."normal for your age"   he said...I'm none the wiser. :whistle:

I told him I've been experiencing some pain in my right arm...probably due to being on the computer I volunteered..."don't diagnose" was his response  as he got me up on the couch to attach the leads for the cardio......the readings which I didn't ask about......as I left he was busy dictating a letter to my GP who will no doubt disclose the contents at my next appointment.  :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Nov-30, 07:18 AM
Headed off for my test on Wednesday via the shortcut the M3 but once we got on the freeway we realised it was the wrong choice....I've never seen such a bottleneck...seeing my wife was at the wheel we were able to use the express lane until we reached the first exit traffic was at a standstill due to an accident further on towards the city.....lucky for me I wasn't on my own otherwise stress and anxiety wouldn't help my heart rate or let me use the exppress lane.

We came in by an indirect route past Gair Park which would often be the venue for my members working in nearby Boggo Road or  to give it its correct title HM Prison Brisbane, to hold an impromptu stop work meeting with press and TV cameras notified anonymously in advance and many a time I would wake up to a front page story in the CM with the line "Prison officers said last night......whatever the issue was...so generally that meant putting out the fires before it became a bigger issue.

I still have fond memories of many of the members I came in contact with on a regular basis those who spent a lifetime working in this tough occupation dealing with many traumatic events and trying to leave their experiences behind them when they walked out the gates at the end of their shifts back to their families before going through it all again ...and not knowing what might be in store..in this dangerous and generally unrewarding job...... confronting violence on a regular basis.....mixing with the most dangerous violent criminals and being on guard with  their instincts always on alert.
 
As it happened I made the appointment with time to spare the cardio guy was waiting for me having already done 4 others and as usual we passed the time discussing a few topical issues.....after it was over he said there's no change from last time but wait until Doc has a look at it....."it was good talking to you"he said same as last time.

Doc was as uncommunicative as ever all he said was "you can go now"...after shaking hands and wishing him a Merry Christmas....and about to hot foot it out the door with relief that it was over...his receptionist reminded me that a return appointment was made on my last visit ...in 6 weeks time.

Last time this happened I had to undergo a stress test which I didn't last very long at before running out of condition...if that's what's in store in January I'm going to get a bit fitter and start a more healthy eating and drinking plan with regular daily exercise as golf which is my most regular pastime  doesn't improve my fitness level when  the Yamaha does all the travelling....and it's too arduous to walk in this hot weather.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-20, 07:27 PM
Had a slight accident on Sunday knocked my right leg on a chair which  left  a nasty gash which bled profusely as it didn't look too  healthy  on Tuesday I went to the local Doc who passed it after applying  a dressing.....leave it on for a couple of days but don't get it wet and take this script in case it gets infected .........while there I asked the doc to check this little  lesion on my arm......it looks like a miniature volcano small and red with a core at the top .....diagnosed as possibly an SCC.....have to remove it...make an appointment with receptionist after Christmas.......that's OK.....bring your Medicare card...and it'll be $90 for consumables ...that's a new one never heard of consumables ...except when I put the car in for a service. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-21, 09:21 AM
Peter Senior didn't rest after his recent contests at top level tournaments taking out the PGA seniors' championship at Byron Bay this week ...worth a fairly low by comparison $45K in total.....on Wednesday I played in a group with one of our club Pro's who grew up golfing with Senior as 17yo's and he and the GM played me and an old mate No Shank from the Coast...well No Shank decided to hit a bucket of balls on the driving range which is adjacent to the practice putting green...and to start he peppered the practice green with a couple of shanks...showing he's still got the ability to hit the worst shot in golf.

After just getting to the ladies tee on the first he hooked his second  onto the rough on the 10th fairway and managed to rebound his third mishit off a tree and narrowly missed my good self waiting where I thought it was safe...as it turned out I parred the hole and we were one up to start.......and surprisingly managed to stay there...thanks to the extensive handicap advantages we enjoyed over our much better qualified opposition. :beer:
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Post by: arthur on 2012-Dec-21, 11:35 AM
All the rage up this way . .

I've had many SCC's done but don't remember paying that much for consumables  :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-21, 07:15 PM
A couple of guys I play golf  with occasionally are in the pharmaceutical business another is a nurse...they couldn't see how consumables would amount to the quoted $90.....to start with you would think all consumables like the needle and the stuff in it they use to deaden the feeling the scalpel and the stitches to seal the wound and the dressing would be part of the operation not optional extras.......I'll find out on 8th Jan. :whistle:
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Post by: Walter Watermelon on 2012-Dec-21, 10:05 PM
A couple of guys I play golf  with occasionally are in the pharmaceutical business another is a nurse...they couldn't see how consumables would amount to the quoted $90.....to start with you would think all consumables like the needle and the stuff in it they use to deaden the feeling the scalpel and the stitches to seal the wound and the dressing would be part of the operation not optional extras.......I'll find out on 8th Jan. :whistle:


Go to the chemist and get a needle and some patch up stuff. Tell the docs you have your own consumables.

Might charge you $5 for corkage though.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-22, 05:25 AM
Thanks Wally...very droll  :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-22, 10:24 AM
In the CM today there's a news item that the Children's Hospital is to charge patients for "clinical consumables" beginning in January.......describing this news as the death of the free hospital system .
The consumables are described as ....."expensive extras such as burns dressings, compression garments to prevent scarring after burns ,incontinence pads for handicapped children,tubing for children who are fed by gastrostomy and suction catheters for children with tracheostomies."...the news of which has outraged doctors and nurses.

None of the above it seems to me will be required in my case......but further and better particulars will be sought before parting with any or part of my hard earned.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-23, 09:43 AM
Wiping up today after breakfast I was about to put the tea towel back in the rack when I received a pointed reminder " You haven't done the board"......which was still drying in the sink.......this reminded me of the early days when I first joined the BDVGA.....ruled then by a few cantankerous old geezers who responded to innocent questions from polite golfers seeking general information with the instruction "Read the board" ..the board, a notice board of the day's comp and last results, was presumed to contain all relevant information  needed to be known by those enquiring...and it was barked out parrot fashion by all three or four officials in unison whenever or whatever question arose. :whistle:

Those days are but a faint memory of how it used to be .... my participation in BDVGA comps isn't as frequent as it once was....these days they play almost every week and travelling to other courses doesn't have the appeal it once did after so many years....it's much easier to stay on my home track which is generally superior to them. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-30, 10:21 AM
Called in for a trim at George's Barber shop the other day......most unusual no waiting ushered in without sitting on the reserves bench or the chance to skim the Girlie mags George thoughtfully provides for his only male clients ..despite the fact that there was one guy in work clothes sitting there already ......anyway there was no conversation that I was able to join...George and his sidekick Phillip cutting on the other chair and the guy on the bench all yabbering away at each other in Greek.....George  usually takes meticulous care..... he's skilled at his trade...but I had an uneasy feeling that although I don't have a full head of hair any longer...that this haircut wouldn't turnout to be up to George's best......and I was right...as I discovered when I got home and saw the back view .......the worst haircut I've ever had from him...he must have realised that hisself .....as when I paid him $20 I put the change back in my kick without looking...when I got home and took it out I found a $10 note...obviously he had given me a cut rate for a second rate cut. :rolleyes:

As a possible peace offering George insisted I take a few cuttings from a bunch of small leaf Basil which someone had given him ...they are rooting now and I'll replant them in the garden shortly.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-31, 06:24 AM
Before turning in last night I managed to catch the last few segments of a Ricky Gervais show "Politics" on the ABC .....it was mainly Black humour and not very funny IMO but Ricky's Three button suit caught my eye ....he was wearing a black tee shirt under... not very classy... it wouldn't pass muster in the Members' enclosure ...but no doubt acceptable in Ricky's  showbiz circles ......but getting   back to the tree button suit...Crikey I thought they must be back in fashion.....that's good. :thumbsup:

I've got a pure wool one in the wardrobe in mothballs..haven't worn it for years..I don't need to wear any suit these days let alone a three button one.....so I was pleased I fluked seeing Ricky and his three button job.......regretably my joy only lasted until the final credits appeared on the screen...... the show was produced in 2004. :whistle:

Still I live in hope as fashion has a way of reinventing itself........they'll come back again......but I doubt we'll see the return of the Safari Suit which I once had two of.....before I gave them to St Vinnies. :beer:
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Post by: dubbledee on 2012-Dec-31, 01:24 PM
Arsenal, our mate Bill Yarrow has passed on.

Nice guy who did well despite his handicaps.

 :rip:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2012-Dec-31, 01:34 PM
Arsenal, our mate Bill Yarrow has passed on.

Nice guy who did well despite his handicaps.

 :rip:
Yes Bill was a true battler.....never complained about his handicap......got on with the job at hand  :rip:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-01, 08:42 PM
New Years Day at the golf club was very quiet.....contrasting to the day before with only social golf.....the timesheet was full.

Probably only around 100 players today...which is well down on what the course can accommodate.

One member of the group I've been playing with for many years has decided to pull the pin he's 85 or thereabouts and is finding it too much especially in the hot weather................in his day he was a fairly low handicapper but age took its toll and his handicap blew out to 30 plus....he'll be missed and he had the best memory of anyone I've ever known for telling jokes...mostly suitable for any company.

The other two regulars are off on medical grounds one having treatment for prostate cancer and the other minor skin surgery...I'm still battling on ...even though the heat takes a lot of enjoyment out of the game.

On again tomorrow with a couple of replacements we'll see if they measure up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-02, 07:25 AM
It's nice to start the new year off on a winning note.....even if it's only  by a slim margin.....yesty four of my five my picks all ran into a place......Startsmeup $2.....Motto's Gem $3.90......Too Hi Tek $4.80.....Angelus $2.45....but Cry In Awe $3.50 flopped spoiling what could have been a nice little windfall for a small outlay.....I'm getting close to cracking the 5 placed all ups. :beer:

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Post by: usernametaken on 2013-Jan-02, 02:25 PM
Arsey, you really should be having a parlay on those selections.
Doing yourself out of a quid IMHO>
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-03, 12:46 PM
Arsey, you really should be having a parlay on those selections.
Doing yourself out of a quid IMHO>

Yes mate that would have been the logical approach.....I'll be doing that from now on. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-03, 12:50 PM
Copied this post by Imaufo from the old forum .
A very entertaining point of view imo.

 While it isn't directed at anyone here as far as I know I hope anyone who reads it enjoys it as much as I did.

"By apprentice - Sunday, May 20, 2001, 08:22

Interested in this new phenomenon of racing “chat rooms” and their correspondents, I have discussed the subject with an experienced clinical Psychologist friend and provided some examples of the contributions for her assessment and comment.
 
I shall share her comments and my own with you. It is impossible to determine whether the brevity of many of the contributions demonstrates limited attention span, but it is suggestive of it. It can be deduced from the comments that a majority of the contributors is over fifty and a significant proportion is over sixty.


Much of what is written is nostalgic and backward looking. There is evidence that many of the contributors are obsessive and have brain damage caused, most probably, by excessive consumption of alcohol over many years. Many of the assumed names used contain a direct reference to brain damage, alcohol or drunkenness. Some of the contributors are clearly psychotic.

There is a great deal of anger both patent and latent. This is manifested in the extent of the comments which are merely abuse. Disagreement does not lead to an exchange of views but to angry confrontation. Many resort to thinly veiled references to obscenities by the use of the higher case symbols on the numerical keyboard. There are frequent characterization of others as “imbeciles” by people who themselves betray obvious signs of feeble mentality.

This is likely the result of frustration and self loathing brought about by the losses and probably substantial losses sustained by many gambling on racehorses over a period of many years.
Whilst typing errors are a commonplace even amongst the highly educated (we have all had to learn to type and some do it much better than others) there is the clearest evidence that very many contributors have had a very limited education. This is established by the paucity of the vocabulary and very many spelling errors (as distinct from what may be merely typos). There are far too many for need to quote. It is apparent.

The permitted use of pseudonyms guarantees a limited anonymity that has interesting results. There are assumed gender references akin to Internet “cross dressing”. Where the sex roles are real there is frequent sexual and vulgar innuendo.

The frequency of “misbehaviour” suggests that many of the correspondents are unsupervised, that is that they live alone.
This is most likely the consequence of a combination of late middle or old age, addiction to gambling, brain damage caused by excess alcohol consumption over a long period and low self esteem.

Some are clearly addicted to the “chat room” itself. They make daily contributions and sometimes many contributions on the same day, rarely rising above the banal. This leads to a feeling togetherness and a reaction, often violent, against newcomers. There are exchanges of thanks for “back up”.

There is a pack mentality amongst some contributors. One even identifies himself or herself with an animal which is both a carnivorous dog and a term for a servile creature. Interesting mind there!

There is ample evidence that many live in a “Wonderland” world where the dream of getting rich by beating the game has replaced reality. Money has become not a means of exchange and security but something akin to tokens or “Monopoly money”. Many are hopelessly addicted gamblers.

And what of the rest? The newcomers tend to be younger and better educated. They are polite and have not yet suffered the onset of “Korsakoff’s Syndrome”. But they tend not to stay, either because they are driven off or rightly conclude that there is little enlightenment amongst the dross.

One is reminded of people on rubbish heap turning over the mess with a stick hoping to find something discarded but useful. And then there are the intelligent, the well educated, the courteous, the charming, and the lovers of horse racing who enjoy the sport and the companionship and are happy to relate and share their interest and their knowledge with wit and grace.

Where are you? There are some I know but really why do you bother."

 :beer:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-03, 05:24 PM
Despite my better judgement I saddled up again yesty for another 18 holes in what would be the most torturous day weather wise in recent memory......standing in the hot sun holding the flag while the others putted out I could feel the heat burning into my legs...I think I'll wear long trousers from now on and put the shorts away.

The only welcome relief was under the shade of the trees lining the fairways where I usually spend a fair bit of time .......either looking for my own  ball or someone else's  ......I couldn't get home quick enough to have a cold shower and change into something more comfortable.......driving home with the AC going full blast the outside temperature shown on my dash was 34 ...much too hot and humid to enjoy the greatest game I've ever played.

Late in the afternoon a cool change arrived and today has been very pleasant...so to ease my aching muscles I decided to have a remedial massage this afternoon......that was another experience close to torture.....but it should help me to be fit enuff to  saddle up again tomorrow. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-04, 07:22 PM
Attempting to land a longshot place parlay tomorrow all at EF I've started with R1 Aquator @$13 hoping the good draw will help it fluke a place ...then R3 Stradon @$1.50....finally settled on Longshoreman @ $1.60 in R4 saved on Equiesstial @$4...then Primed @$3.50 all on Diamondcowboy @$4.40 saved on Peace Talks @ $4... :beer:

Had a second string  starting with Tornado Miss @$2.50 but its drawn wide but has ability. :whistle:
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Post by: usernametaken on 2013-Jan-04, 08:34 PM
parlay

That's the magic word Arsey!  :yes:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-06, 09:57 AM
Nothing to boast about yesty.....Aquator was a bit unlucky slow out and held up for a run didn't get beaten much for third ..should win soon in the right class.....would have made a big difference had it arrived....Equissential helped but the last few legs went poorly..................but no harm done.

I hardly ever look at the Sat morning form supplement in the CM but yesty for the first time I did skim through the tips and Lo and Behold I noticed  my young golfing partner of days gone by Grant Best an AAP tipster... he worked there in his golfing days doing the run ons  .... pleased to see he has progressed now he has some family responsibilities not like when he was younger and would ride his bike from his parents' home at Sunnybank to the golf course at Carindale...he was a very good golfer ..on single figures and largely self taught.....although I think his grandad arranged for a couple of lessons from Charlie Earp.

He had a bit of luck during a Winter Carnival some time later when he drew the winning key out of a racebook competition and collected a new car. :thumbsup:

He tipped better than most of his colleagues too..with three on top...good luck to him. :beer: 
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-07, 08:26 PM
I'm booked in for minor surgery tomorrow...well I hope it's only minor...possible SCC on my left arm right on the crease which will possibly mean a week or so off golf until the stitches come out.

The GP's receptionist phoned to confirm I 'll be there...and I queried the $90 consumables charge......I've never paid this before I said ...Well it's been in for 6 months...maybe you haven't had anything cut out since...No I said and at $90 a pop I won't be having any in the future....what's it for?.....it's a facility fee...the package is quite expensive he said.....surely the scalpel is reused..the bandage and stitchings would be the only consumables...do I get anything back from Medicare ...NO. :o

It sounds like a rort to me and I wonder if anyone else has come across this.....one of my pharmaceutical  mates has been asked to sniff around to find out if this is a widespread practice. :bulb:
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Post by: sobig on 2013-Jan-07, 09:00 PM
My doctor's practice has had a "consumables charge for some time.

Had some cancers cut out of my ears last year and although he bulk billed so Medicare should have paid for all there was a $75 (I think) consumables charge for me.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-08, 06:15 PM
It seems the reason for the charge is that the medicare fee for minor ops and other services hasn't ever been  fully indexed for inflation and fees are only adjusted six months after the statistics are released and then only by about half of what they should be .....making surgery uneconomical ........there's  the cost of sutures which apparently aren't included in the fee medicare is prepared to pay for the service....not knowing the item number I don't know what is included ......although  I doubt the consumables would amount to $90.

Anyway in my case I wasn't asked to pay this fee......possibly because I've been going to this GP for over 25 years ......and have no doubt contributed considerably to his success......and he to mine.....considering that many of my counterparts have long since departed ....and I'm still standing. :thumbsup:

The procedure required 6 internal stitches and 8 external......which are to stay in place until next Tuesday...when I'll be able to test my arm with some swings to see if I am able to resume hitting that little white ball. :beer:

Meanwhile my activities are resticted and it's no hardship with the hot weather forecast for the next few days to do something different.....  golfing in the heat and humidity is uncomfortable and I can do with some rest from the arduous tasks I set for myself .  :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-11, 04:10 PM
Watching Remember When ..1973   ..on SKY today.....some highlights ...the first female jockeys race at Eagle Farm the Myer Transition....Peter Cook and Kevin Langby vying for the NSW jockeys championship interviewed by Ray ??? (maybe Conroy) asking penetrating questions like what did it feel like winning on such and such  ...Cookie 22 and Langby 27 then ......the former living in a bachelor pad unit at Warwick Farm...... Langby in a mansion at St Ives....TJ Smith winning the AJC Derby with Imagele ...a young Bobby Thomson (possibly) with jet black hair shaking his hand ......Crowds with hardly a inch to spare .

Langby needed a haircut ....long shoulder length hair...Panvale winning the Queen Elizabeth at Randwick ridden by Peter Cook trained by Alby Pratt....Lismore Cup with Johhny Tapp...all togged up  in the Carnaby street gear........Gala Supreme Frank Reys winning the Melb Cup... which I remember backing....beating Glengowan NZ .
 
Big numbers three and four deep  lining the saddling paddock fence at EF...not allowed any more .....only the committee and their guests....no more crowds ...mostly they are gone...many dead probably..only a few of us left to remember how it was in those days. :beer:

Thanks to Graham Mc Neice the Remember When series is a reminder of racing in the days when racing was king. :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-18, 07:44 AM
Noticed another old acquantance's departure earlier this week in the funeral notices...Mickey Douris 82 former well known West End and Souths player in my youth.
Mick obviously of Greek parentage his father Poppa Douris (Bahaduris) had a shop on Hargrave Rd right near the old tramstop and opposite Granville St where my grandmother used to live.Poppa was a very popular guy always amenable and catered for late night snacks on Saturday nights after the flicks with Savs cooked out the back in kerosene tins and sold with lots of salt wrapped in paper.
The Douris family had a very nice house close to the River in Kurilpa St long since gone and replaced by a commercial building.
Mick drove an old model A Ford which I rode in occasionally.
There was no mention of his wife June in the notice but it appears his brother Tony is still around.
RIP Mick.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-24, 03:56 PM
One of my sons in law lost his father last week.....he hadn’t been well for quite a while and passed away  peacefully in his sleep....the best way to go if we were able to choose.

His farewell service was  very well done by all concerned  from the Funeral director down and a bit unusual..... as apart from the eulogy ,readings, prayers ,a hymn and a Frank Sinatra song, there was a replay of Vince Curry’s call from radio 4BC of the Stradbroke  won by a horse of which he was a partner in a syndicate  with some mates.

I only heard its name called three times  once at the start, on the turn and at the finish.It came from last at the turn and won narrowly at 100/1....that would have been a most memorable day in anyone’s life......Sir Wisp was his name.

He was a lucky owner only had three horses and all were good winners in town with one winning a GoldMarket  at the Gold Coast.

The service concluded on a sentimental note  with an excerpt from Banjo Patterson’s poem....it was a fitting finale.
 
“Old Pardon the Son of Reprieve”

“But he's old -- and his eyes are grown hollow
Like me, with my thatch of the snow;
When he dies, then I hope I may follow,
And go where the racehorses go.

I don't want no harping nor singing --
Such things with my style don't agree;
Where the hoofs of the horses are ringing
There's music sufficient for me.

And surely the thoroughbred horses
Will rise up again and begin
Fresh faces on far-away courses,
And p'raps they might let me slip in.

It would look rather well the race-card on
Mongst Cherubs and Seraphs and things,
Angel Harrison's black gelding Pardon,
Blue halo, white body and wings.

And if they have racing hereafter,
(And who is to say they will not?)
When the cheers and the shouting and laughter
Proclaim that the battle grows hot.

As they come down the racecourse a-steering,
He'll rush to the front, I believe;
And you'll hear the great multitude cheering
For Pardon, the son of Reprieve.”
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-26, 05:21 PM
I ran out of Bay Rum earlier this week and do you think I could find anyone who had some in stock...no Sirree...tried everywhere chemists, hairdressers, hair product stores.......but finally struck gold on the internet......plenty available in the USA .... DIY recipes aren't for me......but in Sydney NSW BHS has it and having paid $15.35 for 250ml including postage ...I'll be smelling sweeter any day now. :beer:

Bay Rum for the uninitiated is an after shave lotion made up of a special blend of spices with an unmistakable manly smell......favoured by  older gentlemen. :thumbsup: 
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-29, 02:47 PM
The Bay Rum arrived today and I'll be giving it a run prior to attending tonight's board meeting at the golf club...a big agenda and possibly a late finish...need to be up early tomorrow to help the working bee to clean up debris which is littering the course as a result of the recent rains and Bulimba Creek bursting its banks...the course was an inland sea when I went out yesterday...no golf for a few days ...although the Par3 course is largly unaffected and is open for play.


GOLF COURSE CLOSED - Tuesday and Wednesday 
(Par 3 course and clubhouse are open)
Unfortunately the main course will need to remain closed until at least Thursday due to water and silt damage making many fairways unplayable.  A review will be made at lunchtime on Wednesday for play on Thursday.
Course Update:
The Golf Course has received 300mm of water over the weekend.
High winds have uprooted and torn apart trees with debris spreading everywhere.
9th and 1st bridges are partially damaged.
The fairways across the flats from 11th to 7th holes are completly sodden with water and silt build-up, making them unplayable at the moment.
The wind and sunshine is making the recovery a lot quicker and we are hopeful of being back on the course on Thursday.
Volunteer Working Bee - Wednesday 30th January (Morning)

To help speed up the recovery process a Working Bee will be held on Wednesday (tomorrow) morning.  This working bee is to simply pick up the debris that has been blown down from the trees and washed in from the flood.  Rakes will be provided near the golfers ramp into the clubhouse and we invite any members (male or female) to help with the cleanup.  All we need you to do is rake or move the debris into piles near the cart paths - then our ground staff can simply come along with the machines and pick up the piles.

Some rakes will be provided at the golfers ramp and we ask that you come along at your leisure, grab a rake and make your way down to an area.  The course staff will be on hand around the course and you can ask for specific details from them if needed.

The staff have been busy chopping up the fallen trees, getting pathways cleared, repairing drainage damage and getting mowers onto the greens.  We need to now clear the debris from the fairways (especially holes 1, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 11) so that we can mow.
If you are coming out, please remember to bring a hat/sunscreen, water, gloves and a rake if you have one - any assistance would be appreciated.
 
***  Please be aware that there may be risks in picking up debris due to unsanitory/dangerous items that have been washed downstream, or natural wildlife (mainly snakes) wrapped up in the debris - we suggest all volunteers wear gloves **
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-30, 07:13 PM
Headed out to the golf club bright and early...grabbed a rake from the work ute ...and joined a group waiting to get started on the cleanup...to be greeted by the comment "It's not a fashion parade"  which caused some amusement from all concerned.  :lol:

Lot of twigs. leaves,broken branches and other debris to be raked up and carted away by the greens staff......some damage to a couple of bridges...several large trees uprooted...and 60 or so bunkers washed out.
Lately there is evidence of foxes killing native wildlife and digging holes in the bunkers..the Council is going to loan some traps to capture them.

It was very hot and humid even so early in the morning and after a couple of hours toil which I'm not used to it was time to call it a day and head off home.

About 25 guys turned up to help in the cleanup...it is hoped to open the course for play on Friday ...weather permitting. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jan-31, 11:27 AM
If they're good enough for Tiger ...Rory and others....they would have to be good enuff ,possibly too good,  for hackers like my goodself.....so I decided to buy a set of Nike irons from the USA.....placed the order on Wednesday a week ago and the clubs were shipped the same day from Raleigh NC...Honolulu...through Customs at Alexandria NSW due to arrive in Brisbane yesterday.......very good service really had it happened as promised.....but no show......and there was someone home all day >:(

Later in the day a neighbour two doors down knocked at the door with a Fedex docket in her hand inquiring if I  was expecting a delivery ..."Yes indeed." I said.......handing me the docket  which was to the effect that Fedex tried to deliver a package but nobody was home to accept it...and they'll try again next day.....the neighbour went out of her way to ring Fedex telling them they went to the wrong address.
I also phoned them this morning and was told dispatch would ring and let me know the approximate time for the delivery....but still waiting for the call...it never came. :o

So  I was keeping a lookout when I saw this van drive past and turn into no 32...the driver got out opened the door and got back in and was driving off when I hailed him and asked was he looking for me at number 36...."Ah yes" he said ...got the box out had me sign for it and was about to depart with no apology or explanation...."How come you went to 32 again?" I asked..."Oh I misread the number"...he said .......the only excuse is he is a noo zeelander. :shutup:

Hard to make the same mistake twice .....hard to see any reason why 36 looked like 32. :chair:

Unpacked the box and there they were all  eight  of them from 4 to gap wedge wrapped in plastic and just waiting to get some grass on their faces. :beer:

Maybe will get a chance to have a hit tomorrow or go up to the driving range if no golf.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-03, 04:31 PM
A miserable rainy dismal day didn't stop the Qld REDS  College XV had a convincing 24 -3 win over Tonga A at Ballymore yesty.

My recently married granddaughter Caitlin's  husband Sam Denny scored  a try in a memorable day for them in the start of  their 2013 IRB Pacific Rugby Cup campaign .

The play Japan next at Ballymore on 18th March.


Sam is an electrican and hopes to graduate to the Reds representative squad...... :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-04, 04:58 PM
CM scribbler and occasional fiction writer Matthew Condon has written a book "Three Crooked Kings" which is described as convicted crook  ex police commissioner Terrence Murray Lewis's story....putting the record straight.
A second book is to follow.

Lewis served 7 years in jail for corruption and was stripped of his knighthood as a result of the Fitzgerald Inquiry in the mid 1980's .......but still maintains his innocence.......not too much chance of that IMO.

Today in the CM there's an extract from the book about the night Lewis and Glen Patrick Hallahan (one of the three crooked kings along with Tony Murphy) were called to a house in Whites Rd Lota where a prostitute from the Nott street brothel in West End was in fear of being murdered by her husband a former German soldier in Rommel's Afrika Corps.

Hallahan and Lewis were awarded a George Medal for bravery in confronting and overpowering the armed man who was arrested and sent to jail.....his missus decamped to NSW.....and never saw the gunman again.

Lewis and Hallahan were on the take...in those days brothels were illegal but were not only tolerated but protected.....the Vice squad was on the take....brothels, sly grog and SP paid protection to bagman Jack Herbert who grassed them all up when the heat was on.

Hallahan was often in the news...he had a good rapport with the police roundsmen...they were always writing him up...similar to his NSW counterpart Ray "Gunner" Kelly who also proved to be crooked.

Hallahan and Tony Murphy are no longer alive.....I did have some dealings with Murphy when he was in charge of Toowoomba CIB over union issues at Westbrook and I found him easy to relate to and our issue was resolved....when he retired he ran a TAB agency..so obviously maintained some connections with the "right people"

I had hardly any dealings with Lewis when he was police commissioner...he and his deputy Ron Redmond (who I was friendly with)were always on our invitation list for our well patronised Christmas Party in the State Service Club.

Nott street brothel was named "Elsees" it was a plain red/brown weatherboard house with a steep set of steps covered on three sides with tin  in a back street off Montague Rd an industrial area.......as kids we would ride our bikes around and give cheek to the Madam or any customers who showed their faces...there was another "Killarney" adjacent to the Pauls Milk factory further down Montague Road which is also mentioned in the book.

Today there are apartments and office blocks all along the river parallel to Montague Road ..... Pauls depot is still there...Killarney is long gone.

Having an interest in the life and times of T.M Lewis and other personalities likely to be mentioned in the book I looked in QBD today intending to buy a copy..."Sorry there's been a big demand for this"...the shop assistant said......."but we have another 30 on order if you like I'll give you a ring when they arrive...should be in the next couple of days."

So I gave her my number and will go and get it it when the phone rings.
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Post by: arthur on 2013-Mar-04, 05:19 PM
Just finished reading 'The Most Dangerous Detective' by Steve Bishop, which deals mainly with Hallahan but obviously gives the other 'kings' a bit of coverage

Easy read and may be of interest to you Arsenal, if you haven't already read it

Like Evan Whitton's books, these exposes can be a bit daunting and certainly give great weight to the wise old jungle saying about power corrupting
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-04, 05:47 PM
Just finished reading 'The Most Dangerous Detective' by Steve Bishop, which deals mainly with Hallahan but obviously gives the other 'kings' a bit of coverage

Easy read and may be of interest to you Arsenal, if you haven't already read it

Like Evan Whitton's books, these exposes can be a bit daunting and certainly give great weight to the wise old jungle saying about power corrupting


Thanks Arthur...I'll checkit out. :thumbsup:

This is the appetiser for Matt Condon's book from the weekend......unable to copy the extract in today's CM .


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/terry-lewis-last-man-standing-condemned-by-the-courts-and-the-fitzgerald-inquiry-former-queensland-state-police-commissioner-terence-lewis-decides-its-time-to-tell-his-side-of-the-story-to-courier-mail-writer-matthew-condon/story-e6freoof-1226588867222
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Skybeau on 2013-Mar-04, 06:46 PM
Blades or cavities Arsenal?  I think it's about time I invested in a new set of clubs.  Turning 38 this year and never had a new set fresh off the rack.  Might have to start dropping some subtle hints to the other half.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-04, 06:57 PM
Blades or cavities Arsenal?  I think it's about time I invested in a new set of clubs.  Turning 38 this year and never had a new set fresh off the rack.  Might have to start dropping some subtle hints to the other half.

Cavaties mate...blades haven't the same margin for error as the cavaties.....lots of bargains too...never been as cheap.....China is the powerhouse....even Ping these days are forged there but assembled in USA. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-06, 06:13 PM
The wet weather has caused the golf course to be closed since last Saturday....something over 200mm recorded to then with regular daily showers adding to the course's unplayability.......greens staff unable to mow the fairways or the rough......no golfers in the bar.....but the bistro is open all day and in the evenings......but  money coming in barely makes it worthwhile...the pro shop is doing no business..no social players...and no opportunity left unless the course opens tomorrow......as there's a charity day booked for Friday...which will be hard pressed to make a profit without a big turnaround in the weather.

There was damage to the bunkers and a couple of the bridges which have now been repaired and the course might open for social play Thursday afternoon if there's no rain overnight  assuming it passes inspection in the morning.

The Par3 course is open and playable but it's very slushy in places although the greens are good...but not too many takers with showers about.

We are hosting the BDVGA on Monday all being well...their last game at Nudgee on Monday was washedout...so hoping for the best..no more rain. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: ratsack on 2013-Mar-06, 07:48 PM
The wet weather has caused the golf course to be closed since last Saturday....something over 200mm recorded to then with regular daily showers adding to the course's unplayability.......greens staff unable to mow the fairways or the rough......no golfers in the bar.....but the bistro is open all day and in the evenings......but  money coming in barely makes it worthwhile...the pro shop is doing no business..no social players...and no opportunity left unless the course opens tomorrow......as there's a charity day booked for Friday...which will be hard pressed to make a profit without a big turnaround in the weather.

There was damage to the bunkers and a couple of the bridges which have now been repaired and the course might open for social play Thursday afternoon if there's no rain overnight  assuming it passes inspection in the morning.

The Par3 course is open and playable but it's very slushy in places although the greens are good...but not too many takers with showers about.

We are hosting the BDVGA on Monday all being well...their last game at Nudgee on Monday was washedout...so hoping for the best..no more rain. :beer:


Brisbane District  Veteran Golf Association     :/

DD  a member   :whistle:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-07, 10:13 PM
Rats no doubt he fullfills the age qualification.....55 or better but haven't seen him on the course...too busy punting....possibly counting his money. :beer:


No golf tomorrow and Saturday could be doubtful...depending on no more rain and able to do some more mowing...I crossed out a few days ago.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-08, 01:24 PM
My copy of the Three Crooked Kings arrived today......346 pages looks to be in easily readable font size..... intro starting off with the suicide of former prostitute Shirley Brifman in 1972...who it is claimed took the easy way out to protect her children from death threats if she didn't do herself in.....as Brifman was to be a witness in a perjury case against a senior Qld policeman....it being alleged the lethal cocktail for her to swallow was delivered to the deceased by an unnamed visitor to her Bonney ave Clayfield flat.No inquest into her death was held. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-09, 10:15 AM
Made a start on the book...found references to several old chums and well known locations in the first few sections...Terry Lewis started his public service life in the old Main Roads building corner Albert and Turbot Streets...opposite the then Roma St Police station....where my goodself later began my illustrious career.In the book they got it wrong citing Adelaide Str instead of  Albert...only a small error.
 
I had an inkling he was a former MRD boy..due to little drops of wisdom  from one of my mates who worked there around the same time as Terry...I started much later after Terry had donned the blue uniform.His first matrimonial home was a rented room in Abbingdon  Str W'gabba.

His instructor at the Academy was one Merv Callaghan ...later to become a good friend and General Secretary of the Police Union.

Merv was a racing man too..had several reasonable horses...his colours were Orange & Green halves..Bernette was one I remember..maybe Ron Conquest trained it..not sure it was so long ago.

Only got through 66 pages so far..well worth the effort. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-10, 11:35 PM
Played golf today on the home course ......awful game Handicap V Par....... the course was a bog in places ...the rough is very high..lost two balls just off the fairway...a long and hard slog ..finished -6..BDVGA come tomorrow they'll be in for a shock..the course won't improve overnight...already there's been one shower......it'll be at least a week without any more rain for it to get back to reasonable condition...I've cancelled tomorrow..couldn't stand another day of torture.....very frustrating for an outdoors man like my goodself. :thumbsd:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-11, 01:48 PM
Reading Matt Condon's book has brought back lots of memories...not just names and faces familiar from days gone by ...but places that I clearly remember.

Lewis used to undertake foot patrol certain areas in his early days .....nobody does that anymore....in company with Det Hallahan he recorded visiting the city's brothels and the following hotels...Arcadia, Globe ,Carlton,Australian, British Empire, Her Majesty's, Grand Central,Embassy, Ulster, Exchange, Victory, Royal, Gresham, Albert,Windsor and Lennons...no mention of the National in that set of notes....which was to figure in a Royal Commission into allegations of corruption and call girls.

I remember one Union triennial conference dinner being held at the National.......but I didn't notice anything untoward going on ...maybe it had cleaned up its act by then.

The Arcadia was over the road from the union office in Elizabeth St...The Globe in Adelaide St..Australian in Queen st.....in the old days jockey Syd "Monkey" Bennett would be lounging about in front twirling his key chain to his Red/Brown  Rolls....and trying to chat up shop girls on their way home from work ..with the promise of a crab supper at Baxters at Deagon ...Baxters in later years was operated by George Benn's wife Famey...and was one of only a few night time restaurants with some class.

Most of the hotels mentioned are long gone Lennons is still there in Queen St..as is the Embassy..the Exchange and The Victory...but the Grand Central the haunt of prostitutes...the British Empire...and Her Majesty's are just a memory.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-12, 05:34 PM
CM today carried a story from last night's well attended book launch...no sign of the main character though T M Lewis.

The book sales are going through the roof the third reprint underway. :beer:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/former-premier-mike-ahern-reveals-corruption-secret-involving-terry-lewis/story-e6freoof-1226595144079
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-13, 07:09 PM
Jasmin Solar finally came to the party...installed the solar system 10 days ago .....26 panels on the roof...Energex came today and installed a new meter..and hooked us up to the grid  ......so it's all systems go...should be self sufficient from now on. :beer:

Today on the golf course I noticed a fox with its paw apparently caught in a BCC trap...I rang the office to let them know....and contacted the Council when I arrived home...the officer who is responsible for checking the traps was off duty but she does the rounds each day between 6am and 2pm...the operator was unable to say what happens to the fox when trapped ...is it released into the bush or destroyed.....I will have to phone back tomorrow to find out. :whistle:

The poor bloody fox will have an anxious wait and it would be in pain you would think...it looked to be full grown to my inexperienced eye.
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Post by: Gintara on 2013-Mar-13, 07:29 PM
Jasmin Solar finally came to the party...installed the solar system 10 days ago .....26 panels on the roof...Energex came today and installed a new meter..and hooked us up to the grid  ......so it's all systems go...should be self sufficient from now on. :beer:

Today on the golf course I noticed a fox with its paw apparently caught in a BCC trap...I rang the office to let them know....and contacted the Council when I arrived home...the officer who is responsible for checking the traps was off duty but she does the rounds each day between 6am and 2pm...the operator was unable to say what happens to the fox when trapped ...is it released into the bush or destroyed.....I will have to phone back tomorrow to find out. :whistle:

The poor bloody fox will have an anxious wait and it would be in pain you would think...it looked to be full grown to my inexperienced eye.


Considering foxes are noxious and they are trapping them, what do you think they do with them  :dry:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-14, 07:50 PM
I contacted the BCC today about the fox......they were most surprised that it was caught in daylight as they have found that the foxes are usually trapped between  10.30pm and 3.30am ...they expressed disappointment that the fox had been trapped for so long..... there is an after hours number which would have alerted them to deal with this well before this morning....had they known....I told them I rang yesterday but it appears the message went to the woman's voicemail. :whistle:

The traps are made of rubber and don't hurt or damage the animal..when one is caught they use a pole with a noose the same  used to capture dangerous dogs..the animal is taken to the depot in this case at Willowong where it is dispatched either by 22 bullet or lethal injection.

This year the BCC has captured 86 foxes in Brisbane ...lots at golf courses...Vic Park in the city...Ashgrove..Jindalee...Indooroopilly and Pacific.

I have to say that of all government organisations the BCC is the most efficient and responsive...you talk to a real person ..none of this automated answering and pressing buttons and being put on hold and then being redirected to the section you should have been connected to in the first place. :beer:
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Post by: ratsack on 2013-Mar-14, 08:27 PM
many years ago my father had roses which were continually dug up and the roots nibbled by rabbits
 as we lived in a rural area on an acreage the ruling body allowed dad 3 rabbit traps (1 per acre )
as expected he caught more than rabbits      :lol:
the first catch was a fox, dad hating rabbits threw a Hessian bag over the foxes head, slowly released the trap off his leg and moved away  :clap2:
the fox looked at dad and ran away to chase rabbits another day  :no1:
the second catch was a cat  :shutup:
dad rang me and said you want to see the size of this cat my trap just caught  :/ (the cat wasn't so lucky )
move to the next scene  :stop:
a bloke knocks on dads door and says ya haven't seen my cat have ya
ya cant miss its THE BIGGEST CAT EVER  :sad:
the traps were than retired to the shed  :clap2:
(no he never caught a rabbit     :lol:   )
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-15, 09:21 PM
Coming out of the movies yesty I was shocked to find some arsole had backed in or driven in to my wife's car...hit the passenger side door ...with a ding and scrapings of white paint....no cameras to catch whoever it was..... no note confessing either...and without evidence of the offending driver and his/her details we are up for the cost of repairs $500 excess. >:(

Many years ago I  parked opposite the RBH in Herston  when visiting my wife in maternity following the birth of our first son... noticed there was a note on the windscreen of a car parked a few spaces away...It read.."The people who saw me ding your car think I'm writing my name and rego here...but we know different don't we." :shutup:

Maybe there'll be some Karma around the corner. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-21, 06:15 PM
Called in to George the barbers today about 11.30...a full house ....one in the chair and 3 customers waiting with another just there for a chin wag.
If I had other things to do I would usually give it a miss and come back when it's quieter.

I decided to stick around and picked up a couple of the girlie mags George provides for his exclusively male clientel....skimmed through the pictures and settled down to participate in the wide ranging  political debate started by the visitor who as turned out came from Cypress...knew quite a lot about what the guvment was doing wrong this guy.....and how bad things were...I couldn't resist testing him whether he would rather be back home in Greece with their economy...when he quite indignantly informed all and sundry he wasn't Greek....and came from Cypress....but it shut him up for a little while. :thumbsup:

Unfortunately the peace and quiet didn't last as  he quickly recovered and insisted on pointing out the problems with recruiting overseas workers  ...how to stop illegal migrants...and how he hisself entered the country illegally, so he said, when the Turks invaded Cypress and he landed in Townsville.......and how he came to be made legal after intervention by a long forgotten minister for immigration.
 
While this was going on  the wall mounted TV was giving an extensive coverage of  Simon Crean calling for a spill to settle the matter of ALP leadership and declaring hisself as a candidate for Deputy Leader...Crikey I thought he's no hope...and as it turned out nothing changed.

I had observed  Simon Crean when he was president of the ACTU I  saw him in action chairing the two ACTU congresses I attended and I have to say he was very good as chairman  although to a large extent the matters before the congress were mostly stage managed.

He came to Brisbane once and was on Quentin Dempster's Qld edition of the 7.30 report debating Vince Lester then IR minister in the coalition guvment.

Vince was generally regarded as something of a joke ...he was famous for walking backwards..and for advocating toilet doors open outwards rather than inwards...and he didn't look too bright..... had strange pale coloured slightly crossed eyes but was much smarter than he looked...and on this occasion he out talked Simon and won the debate hands down.......something which on the face of it I wouldn't have considered a possibilty..the smooth talking suave southerner Crean and the bumbling bumkin ex baker from Clermont ........overmatched. :o

I had two public debates with Vince during my time with the union .....once on radio 4BC with Hayden Sargent and Greg Cary for which the hosts commended us equally...I thought I had a slight edge...the other time I went to the ABC studios at Toowong at very short notice to do a pre-recorded debate with Vince for  Quentin's 7.30 report ...to be shown that night. After it was over  I was clearly on top...to my great disappointment the powers that be decided not to run with it...speculation was that Vince must  have nobbled them. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-27, 08:26 PM
The little ding on the passenger side front door of my wife's car has been assessed by the Insurer and repairs approved all up $1542.08 of which we are up for $500 excess......there must be lots of accidents as the panel shop is booked up to 22 April when we put the car in ...will take3 days if the parts arrive on time......this  is much closer than the first shop could do it they're taking bookings from middle of May. :whistle:
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Post by: Gintara on 2013-Mar-27, 09:48 PM
22 April when we put the car in ...will take3 days if the parts arrive on time.....

What? they wait to your car is in before ordering the parts  :what:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Mar-28, 07:11 PM
As I understand it they order the parts once the Insurer approves their quote...that's done ......so they order the parts...the car goes in on 22 April and the guy said it'll take three days to do the job.....there's an option for a hire car but we don't really need it.....walking is good for us....and cheaper. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Apr-01, 07:49 AM
I decided to sell some surplus golf clubs have two drivers I no longer use ......put an ad on Gumtree free to post ads........ TM R11 driver.... I call it the White Elephant in very good condition with all accessories can change loft....face angle etc for $150 which I thought was a fair price seeing it is a superseded model........guy rings up with an Asian accent asks "any cheaper Jim $100 or $110?' ...WTF...... I thought should I or shouldn't I..."No mate I can't go any lower than $130 that's it"..Can I look see he asks...Yes no problem give him the address and he arrives in a Merc with his son ...son speaks good English but father not so good.....checks out club speaks to son in unknown dialect ...hands over $130... son asks what I pay...tell him $375....Oh so sorry he says. :bye:

Looked up Gumtree several R11's for sale $179...should have held out for my $150.....buyer gets a bargain.

Second driver I list for sale  NIKE machspeedblack similar to R11 can change face angle to draw...neutral ...fade with all original accessories...put it on for $90......first enquirer wants to know if pic is of the actual club or from magazine...tell him it's from Nike website ...second enquirer asks a few questions can I get it for $70 he asks..... No mate that's it $90 and that's a good buy..Ok he says ...he is at Ippy will be down in 45 minutes to buy..ask him his name and promise to hold it for him ....90 minutes later no show..ring his mobile leave message on voice mail ...I ask is he lost can't find my address?...no reply...so I send text ..he replies ...Sorry mate got tied up will have to leave it."

Another enquirer an Asian asks questions.....he is  coming from St Lucia  be there soon he says...yeah right I think... 40 minutes later phone rings ....he pulls up outside......nice late model Honda........friendly type about late 30's I think........checks club ...very good he says  .........last one broke he tells me with a  nervous kind of laugh...hands over $100 asks ..if I got change ..give him $10...I ask how's he off for balls ..OK he says...so I give him a bag of balls as a reward for doing the right thing. :beer:

Who would want to be in retail...although there's a shopkeeper up here who charges people $5 to browse...how she can get it out of them is a mystery. :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Apr-04, 07:34 PM
Lined up today with my dear wife for our annual flu shot at our GP...didn't feel a thing despite sneaking a glance at the needle ...a lot bigger than I thought it ought to be...but the trick when getting a needle is to avoid looking at it or watching the spot where it goes ...but to take a deep breath and at the same time wiggle your toes........maybe only mind over matter but it helps :beer:

The GP we go to is on the corner of a block of shops in Camp HIll.......some of the shops are now vacant ...for lease signs on the windows .....so all these small businesses have either gone elsewhere or given up...as no redirections to any new addresses were seen I suspect it's the latter...only the ladies hairdresser with no customers......a massage place no one about ......hotbread & bakery full of stock .....beauty parlour..and newsagent still open...all close to  the bus stop which you would think would be an ideal location. :whistle:

Later we go to Westfield at Carindale one of the city's biggest shopping centres.....major tenants David Joners & Myer and numerous specialty stores and food outlets...David Jones has high quality merchandise shelves and racks brimming over with stock much of it reduced...but hardly any customers..not looking good IMO :chin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Apr-07, 01:49 PM
I was very interested in the Darby McCarthy piece in today's SM Winter Carnival supplement especially the mention of his first winner as a 10yo for Cunnamulla trainer C W "Cocky" Easton who was a prisoner of war in Changi prison with my old MRD boss and great racing mate T K "Killer" Skehan.

Many stories of Cocky's racing exploits have been written ...one I vaguely recall was where it was claimed the night before the bush meeting he dug up and shifted the winning post to shorten the distance to suit one of his horses...hard to believe that something as obvious as this would have escaped detection. :whistle:

In his heyday Cocky would never go home empty handed ...he would often win almost the whole card in the bush......one horse I remember I was on thanks to the tip was Once Over which if I remember correctly was ridden by then western jockey W C Billy Clarke winning the last race of the day at Oxenford. :thumbsup:

Billy Clarke rode for Noel Best when he took up training after retiring from race riding and eventually took on training hisself.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Apr-25, 09:41 AM
We received the first electricity bill this week  since the Jasmin solar panels were installed and connected to the network on 13 March.

This billing period was from 11 Jan to 17 April.......useage was $222.76 for around  97 days and solar contribution for a approx 35 of them  came to $210  leaving a shortfall of $10.76....on this basis considering there were quite a few cloudy or rainy days Jasmin Solar should be happy with their investment....us too. :beer:

Jasmin's records aren't in the best order though a few weeks ago I received a query from them asking why hadn't I returned the user agreement....... this was a some time after their contractors had been and gone and the system was up and running.......prior to that they said they had no record of receiving my application sent months before.......a duplicate was forwarded to complete the deal....so it's all systems go hopefully from here. :thumbsup: 
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Apr-26, 07:39 PM
Beaudesert raced on Anzac day which traditionally for some of the old diggers means a game of two up.......or so we are led to believe....which reminded me of the two up game after the races.

Many years ago in my youth when on holidays and not owning a car at that point  I would catch a Greyhound bus in Melbourne St. opposite the Terminus Hotel to get to Beaudesert races which in those days was a regular venue on the mid week provincial circuit...racing then was only held Wednesdays and Saturdays and public holidays.

Coming home in the bus the driver would sometimes stop at the Veresdale Hotel for those so inclined to have a quick drink or a call of nature.The main attraction was a two up school out the front of the pub in clear view of all passing traffic.

I wonder if the two up game has been carried on ......probably not.

One guy I remember from growing up in West End had something to do with it ..he was pretty shifty and in later years in company with a few other toughs  ran one of those mock auctions in a vacant shop off where  Queen St Mall is now.

Punters would be enticed into buying watches and other items after some of his agents got in first and came away with seemingly incredible bargains.....I usually stood at the back and watched the show unfold..it was good entertainment .......until it was raided by the cops......led by Det Sgt Patrick Glancy who is mentioned briefly in the book I'm reading about former crooked police commissioner Terry Lewis.

When the cops arrived they rushed in past the customers who all took off and apprehended Jack or Jackie as most of us knew him and his associates I didn't stick around to find out what it was they were arrested for.


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Post by: arthur on 2013-Apr-26, 08:14 PM
Probably late with their 'fielding fees'  :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Apr-28, 06:08 PM
I'm reminded that this guy Jackie running the mock auctions had a younger brother named Les who I found out when I saw him one day at the races some years later that he  held a trainer's license with the QTC but only had one horse it was owned by Paddock bookie Tom Marney ...I can't remember its name......but I think it had some ability and was subject to an inquiry on one occasion.

Another old time bookie Jim Delaney bought Thurlow, formerly a smart 2yo when trained by the late George Benn, as an older horse  ....and gave it to a guy named Len or Les Laundress  .....it was his one and only meal ticket.

One  mid week night  I was going to the pictures at the Lyric Theatre  I passed some older knockabouts  gathered  on the corner of Vulture St and Boundary St outside Arthur Pickham's milk bar........ the locals probably in their 20's  were led by a guy called "Ginger" and were facing off against a mob from another suburb possibly Paddington  who were eyeing them off from the opposite side of the road  obviously  coming all this way intent on having a stoush......Jackie a grown man and  much older than the members of the West End mob was urging them to have a go "We'll back Ya up.."  said Jackie ...."but they've got a "Boong" with them" ....I heard Ginger say......that settled it.....he wasn't  too enthusiastic in accepting Jackie's support......there was no Police report that I remember.....I can still picture the scene all those years ago...but don't remember what movie I saw.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-May-09, 06:49 PM
I've been a home delivery customer of the Courier Mail and Sunday Mail for as long as I can remember....... last year the publishers Qld Newspapers Ltd advised that there had been a reorganisation of delivery amongst newsagents and in future  our papers would be delivered by another newsagent from whom we would receive our account and we could elect to pay it online....a most satisfactory arrangement that turned out to be.

A couple of months ago QNP Ltd advised that they would be billing us direct and that a contractor had taken over the daily deliveries.
This week I received our first bill under these new arrangements which is due to be paid on 16 May.
I decided to go online to the QNP site and process the payment ....as I did under the arrangement with the news agent....but found I had to register with QNP to be able to do that.

And that's when the trouble started......in filing my registration I had to include my client ID number...so I entered the reference number on the bill that I received ...that was rejected....so I emailed QNP asking for directions....they replied today with a link to access my account which said it had been validated.

Clicking on the link I was instructed to copy the client ID number provided which when I inserted it into the form ...I received a message that they were unable to identify that number and to ring an 1800 number which I did ...only to hear a recorded message that there are long delays.

I hung up and dialled another 1800 number and was eventually connected to an operator who was most helpful but she too was frustrated at the problems I had encountered in accessing my account....While she was trying at one end I managed to log on to my account page and commenced to type in the details so I could process the payment due in a weeks' time.
Although I have my bill in my hand showing a debit of $51.76 the QNP website showed I have a balance of $0 and there isn't any way to pay

This young woman  gave me another 1800 number to ring...but that too had a recorded message of regrettable delays and if I liked I could email them with my issue.

So this's what I told them.

Hello this is a very frustrating experience trying to establish access to your site so as to allow me to pay your account online.I don't want a direct debit but I'll pay it online .Trying to do this I got an email that my account has been validated to click the link provided which took me to the home page where my ID no was shown as 202326 on entering this it wasn't recognised ......invalid ID was the message .....so I rang the 1800 number too big a delay so I rang an alternative 1800 spoke to Amber very helpful by this time your website accepted my no 202326 as correct. I tried to pay my bill $51.76 but the page showed I didn't owe anything so I haven't been able to pay. I was waiting to be  put through to the payment section but another frustrating wait and delay so I took the suggested email option.

Is there any chance that the same contractors who worked on the Health Dept payroll are in charge of yours?

I would like to finalise this well before the due date of 16 may.

Hope to hear from someone who knows what they are doing and can resolve this issue.


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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-May-15, 07:36 PM
I'm almost finished reading a very interesting book on the history of trotting in Qld...."From Kedron To Albion Park "by Raymond Lowndes. which I borrowed from the BCC Library Service.

Starting from 1880 when horses were the main form of transport  through the depression and the war years  it seems that trotting was more popular then than now...with reports of crowds of up to 5000 attending trotting meetings on occasions.

There were  venues in most Brisbane suburbs eg: Coorparoo...Wynnum ..Cleveland.. Redland Bay.....Lawnton ...Virginia.. Mt.Gravatt...Rocklea ....Redcliffe ....Amberley and many others ...... the main track was John Wren's Kedron Park....night racing was held at the Gabba and later at the Exhibition grounds.

Show trotting  which unfortunately is almost a long lost memory was the base from which most trotting  began ........attracting  visitors from interstate and locals sometime went south by train or sea to Victoria Park or Harold Park in search of rewards....most amazing handicaps in those days with the better class being handicapped  to give more than 100 yards start to the front markers ...many horses were ridden before the gig became more popular....and there were several lady riders mentioned...one lady I know the late Jack Waltisbuhl's wife Kay (Stone)

It is a most interesting read  with little known facts on trotting personalities down through the ages with some wonderful photos of races and venues.

Artie Belford, Jack Gregg, Alf Merson, Jack Waltisbuhl, Archie Sugden, Bill Knox, Noel Price, Bernie Higgins, Charlie Buckler, Pat Collyer,....are amongst those mentioned who were known to me ....... they pioneered the sport in the old days. :clap2:

One fancier favoured greys which is a rare breed in trotting and he is reported to have used peroxide on the coat before rinsing it off with a Rickett's Blue knob....to brighten the grey colour.

I remember mum used Rickett's Blue  in the laundry ......we had a copper to boil the clothes when I was a kid before we had a washing machine. :beer:
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Post by: El Dufus on 2013-May-16, 09:37 AM
Was discussing with some same age mates (yep, bloody old codgers!) just the other day about the name of the little blue "thingy" that our mothers put in the copper to brighten up the whites - none of us could remember its name.

You've jogged my memory now Arsenal.

But I'm pretty sure it was Reckitt's Blue, not "Ricketts" - isn't that a dreaded medical condition?

El D
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-May-16, 07:31 PM
You're right I expect ED....probably not in production these days.....Omo might have cornered the market...but I'm no expert. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-May-28, 05:49 PM
Have just finished reading "The Most dangerous Detective" by Steve Bishop a former UK journo now settled in sunny Qld who I heard interviewed on the radio last week.

The book is based mainly on the doings of the late CIB Detective Glendon Patrick Hallahan and his associates the Rat Pack...the author is at pains to illustrate the ineptitude of the several judges appointed to conduct Royal Commissions into the National Hotel ....drug trafficking.....and other issues who gave Hallahan and his accomplices a clean bill of health....and is critical of a compliant press which publicised and advanced Hallahan as a sleuth...never venturing to investigate  the charges and ignoring claims made against him.
  
The book starts off with the Sundown murders which happened many years ago in the NT but picks up pace when it goes into the corruption era under a succession of CP/Lib coalitions......until dismantled by the Fitzgerald Inquiry.

Steve Bishop relied on painstaking research for his facts and opinions being unable to interview the key characters.
The bibliography extends to 7 pages.

Bishop is a very descriptive writer with the knack of painting pictures of scenes he describes in great detail and dropping the occasional astute observation adding interest to the tale.The only thing missing are pictures of the characters which I think would have added to the book.

He is convinced that Hallahan fitted up an innocent man Ray Carter for the murder of Thyra Bowman the Sundown murders in which two other persons were killed.
Carter confessed under duress but later retracted his confession but failed to convince the jury and he was sentenced to death.
After an unsuccessful appeal the sentence was carried out at Adelaide Gaol.

According to an informant Hallahan suffered guilt admitting that he had sent an innocent man to the gallows.

Some of the people in the book were known to me, crusading barrister BCC Alderman and later MP for South Brisbane Colin Bennett who lived in West End where I grew up was well known for his pro bono legal services...I also briefly met Donald Maher after his release from prison for the alleged murder of National Hotel manager Jack "Bingo" Cooper...when it was Hallahan who pulled the trigger and framed Maher in the most obvious and clumsy fit up I've ever heard of but wasn't questioned in his trial.

Jack Cooper's nickname Bingo came about because he kept his eyes down when talking to people.

Hallahan was allowed to resign from the police force by Whitrod and he died of cancer in 1991 aged about 59/60

I recommend the book to anyone with an interest in the bad old days when crime and corruption flourished. :beer:


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Post by: dubbledee on 2013-May-28, 05:52 PM
Ahhh, the good old Nash.

Day at the races, cashed up, dinner in the Steakhouse, drinks with Warren, and then....  ;)
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Post by: arthur on 2013-May-29, 09:10 AM
More trivia . .

I noticed that one of the races on Mackay's Amateur Day was the 'Hallie Connors Memorial'

Hallie raced a horse named 'National Warren' in the 60's

AND

Another memorial race on the same programme was for Maria Stehbens . . unfortunately both trainers' names were incorrectly spelled by officials

Upsetting to the families, I should imagine  :chin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-06, 07:33 PM
Have just got news that my newly wed granddaughter's husband Sam Denny number (17) has been selected to sit on the bench Saturday night when The Reds meet The Lions at Suncorp Stadium. :thumbsup:

It'll be a big break for Sam if he gets to run on...leading to a decent  a payday which will come in handy with a baby on the way.

 All the family will be cheering for the team.....and hoping that Sam gets a chance  :beer:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-07, 08:11 AM
I've just finished reading Matthew Benns' book FIXED an expose of all that's wrong with the racing industry.....a rehash of some of the scandals in the past where all the usual suspects get a Guernsey.

Benns IMO is quite a decent writer with a talent for keeping readers interest......... although in most cases we've heard it all before......apart from
the gruesome murder of horse trainer George Brown which is exposed in more detail than I've seen in the past

The Fine Cotton ring in is dissected in some detail although it's not nearly as entertaining  as Kevin Perkins' hilariously descriptive writings  in The Gambling Man.

Benns rather sceptically includes an  unbelievable scenario dreamed up by convicted race fixer and criminal John Gillespie that Fine Cotton was supposed to be discovered as the real fix was for Harbour Gold to win ...and that he trousered $1.8M setting hisself up in the Phillipines or Thailand  out of the reach of now deceased gunman Christopher Dale Flannery supposedly hired to kill him on behalf of another now deceased Sydney criminal George Freeman. :o

One short passage I did find interesting is the claim by Andrew McLean an honorary associate of Sydney Uni and founder of the Australian Equine Behaviour Centre that in his opinion a lot of the techniques used by trainers are "medieval" and that he would like to see horse trainers use effective training techniques that appeal to the way horses learn ,their mental capacity and their natural behaviours.

Maybe there's something in that for trainers to consider.....if they're not too stuck in their existing regime. :bulb:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-09, 01:17 PM
Watched the Lions who were much too good for the locals.........and as the clock kept ticking away towards the final hooter...with about 3 minutes left ...lo and behold young Sam ran on and made the most of the opportunity.....very proud of him .....and the commentators gave him a pat on the back for his efforts. :beer:
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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2013-Jun-09, 07:33 PM
my newly wed granddaughter's husband Sam Denny number (17)

Husband number 17.

She's been a busy lass. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-09, 09:56 PM
Not funny  :stop:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-13, 03:58 PM
I caught the bus to go into the City today tried to swipe the GoCard ....nothing ....tried again same result.....explained the problem to the driver who advised to check it out at Brisbane Square which is a BCC Library and Customer Centre at the top of town. I contacted Translink from there and explained the problem..... there’s a small tear in the card which prevents it being registered and I need to get a replacement. So that’s OK.

I walked down Elizabeth Street past our former place of business  which we sold to the Seymour Group 15 or so years ago..... our old building has been demolished and the site has been amalgamated with the adjoining lots and now  houses a massive office block with a most unappealing front. It  looks like something out of a mechano  set. 55 Elizabeth Street is the address..our easement laneway is still there alongside the driveway to the monstrosity erected over where I spent many years of my then young life toiling away in the interests of union members before we moved to a more modern building a few blocks away in Albert Street near Festival Hall.

Hardly recognised most of the businesses downstream and over Albert Street..... several Asian food outlets and a Tea House..... past the Irish Club which has had a facelift and over Edward Street to Richards&Richards with two TV crews waiting patiently outside for the proprietor Joe Richards to show ...hoping to get him on camera to get his version of the mock menu belittling Joolya at a fund raiser for LNP election candidate Mal Brough...which apparently was held some months ago but details of the menu have only just emerged....in very poor taste too from what I have seen .

No sign of Joe while I was there talking to one of the media crew ...bored as hell waiting for a glimpse of Joe with this non story....Joe has been in the drapery business for yonks taking over from his family’s haberdashery in Stanley Street where they provided school uniforms for St Laurence's where both our sons were educated. Joe later turned this store into an upmarket men's store with lots of imported labels and an annual sale which I patronised myself taking advantage of Joe’s generous nature marking down last seasons threads, shirts and ties to bargain prices but still leaving Joe well short of being penniless.Joe then expanded into hospitality The Chalk Hotel is on the site now replacing the shabby Railway Hotel.

Joe if you can believe him claims the menu for Brough’s fundraiser was done up as a joke and wasn’t distributed to the patrons on the night .....Brough has apologised......but supposedly hasn’t seen the menu ...Joolya is outraged which is understandable......the Chef who saw the menu on the Executive Chef’s facebook site and tweeted it no longer works there ...and stupid bloody Joe is nowhere to be seen.

Joe some years ago was on the committee of the BTC and would occasionally be seen and heard on local media cracking jokes at which he would laugh uproariously...so I can’t imagine Joe keeping this menu  to himself  and resisting the temptation to share it with his customers. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-14, 08:07 PM
Seeing the golf course was still reasonably wet today the players in motorised carts were required to stay on the cart paths and walk out to their ball...a not unreasonable requirement which you would think members especially would do the right thing by complying ...but from my observations quite a few ignored the rule and carried on as normal ....some visitors also claiming ignorance were observed to do the same.....it's all well and good to put these restrictions in place IF there is a course marshall to see the conditions of play are adhered to......but today with no marshall it was Rafferty's rules I'm sorry to say. :shutup:

Seeing I'm carrying a slight injury I didn't participate in today's competition and just had a social game to keep my mate company......on the Par3 13th hole rated 18 and with the flag at 119m..I hit an almost perfect 8 iron which finished 13cms from the hole...which had I been playing in the comp would have won the pro pin probably worth around $100 seeing it was a smallish field of 106 players.

Still very satisfying to hit such a good shot .......the effort is its own reward. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-25, 09:14 PM
Paid a visit for my annual check up  to my medical specialist on Friday $110 he trousered for a 10 minute discussion ......off to Medicare today to claim .......no cash anymore they deposit it to your nominated bank account....the scheduled fee is $43.........probably been at that level since Bill Hayden first thought of establishing Medibank....but the doctors can charge what they like........and the refund was $36.55 approx. 85% which would b a reasonable % if the scheduled fee had kept pace with the arbitrary increases  the medical profession imposes. >:(

Visited my dentist today for a filling $159 fee rebate from my health fund a respectable $111.30 as a long standing client my dentist very generously waives the $47.70 gap and is content to accept the benefit.......don't expect  medical specialists could manage to rise to that level.   :rolleyes:

George the barber gives me a discount though only $12 for my short back and sides no need to go any higher up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jun-27, 08:12 AM
One of my golfing partners works two days a week at the UNI.....he uses his GoCard to get to and fro work  ...told me yesterday it has $16.30 in credit swiped the card getting on and off the bus on Tuesday but no debit for the cost of his rides...still showing $16.30 in credit ....it's a free ride forever by the looks of it. :o

When I was working in the Union office as Industrial Officer many years ago one of our members in the QGTB in King St Sydney would ring frequently and was never in a hurry to terminate the call...one day when I queried him on how much it was costing he confided he rings from a public phone booth at the Sydney GPO where there's no STD charges on this particular phone ...obviously a faulty phone giving something for nothing to those who knew about it.
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Post by: chuggers on 2013-Jun-27, 08:18 PM
We are going back 40 years....but I was given a device from a Telephone man.....stick this in each public phone..local call anywhere in Aussie...worked a treat.... :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jul-04, 06:34 PM
It's happy anniversary today 19 years since we moved to our current home....born on the Fourth of July. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Jul-09, 05:21 PM
Sometimes really only rarely I buy golf gear from overseas especially if whatever it is  not available locally or is considerably better priced than here. :beer:

Only once have I been dudded ...... I bought a monocle style  distance finder which on arrival didn't work...it showed the same distance to the flag from every position on the course it was stuck on 156M and was completely useless.

When I complained to the seller she refunded the money about $20 on condition I didn't leave any negative feedback.

This apparatus is still being sold on EBay so maybe mine was just a dud as you would think if they were all no good EBay would put a stop to their sales. :whistle:

So my latest purchase on EBay  was from China a couple of ball retrievers which attach to the end of the putter grip...they're very compact and don't interfere with your putting stroke.......priced at $2.29ea with free postage represents a real bargain ..the same article here retails for $14.....the only drawback is they send it by China Mail which took a bit over three weeks to arrive.

I'm also waiting on some gear from the UK it was sent Air Mail over a week ago but hasn't arrived ...the PO say it takes 10 to 14 business days from there to here.....yet gear from the USA sent by FedEx never takes more than 7 days  more often quicker.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-06, 08:23 PM
I noticed a small irregular shaped darkish blemish on my left wrist recently just where I wear my watch......so I decided to make an appointment with my local skin cancer practitioner who I've been with for close on 20 years......he thought it might be a solar lentigo or maybe a melanoma...as I've had 7 so far the odds favoured this being number 8.......so on Wednesday afternoon he excised it and  the pathology showed it to be a melanoma  level 1 which although not good it could have been worse.......but the bad news is he didn't cut a wide enough  margin so it has to be redone and he is away for a couple of weeks which means I'm back again on 23rd for another slice ......in the meantime I haven't had any pain to speak of and it hasn't stopped me playing golf so things aren't too bad ....although I would have preferred he took a little more the first time. :thumbsup:
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Post by: vadim on 2013-Sep-06, 08:42 PM
Good news - bad news.

Take care
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Post by: monologue on 2013-Sep-06, 10:46 PM
Arsenal I've had a couple of melanomas removed and both times after it was diagnosed as a melanoma from the pathology lab I was called back into to have a wider margin removed .
I think it may just be standard practise.

Best of luck with it.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-07, 10:04 PM
I'm lucky to have lasted this long..... a little more missing skin won't matter too much...Thanks for your good wishes. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-09, 08:58 AM
Now the election is over golf club members will shortly have the Board elections to consider...nominations close today and once the ballot papers and election material is printed members will receive the financial statements and annual report  and  make their choices.......there are 7 positions to be filled and as both the President and Vice President are standing down there will be at least two new faces after the AGM on 30September.......I'm looking forward to seeing the nominations and expect a hot contest as happened last year where four new faces were elected replacing three sitting members and one who stood down. :beer:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-09, 08:30 PM
Seeing that my doctor is away I got in touch with a surgeon who has operated on me previously  to see if he could fit me in any earlier to clear what's left of this melanoma.....he asked to see the pathology  which my guy's surgery sent and today his receptionist phoned to say he'll fit me in on Wednesday......I asked what he thought  and was told he said it was urgent .....so I've had to abandon golf unless I can get an early game as I have to book in at 11.30 at the  hospital ...........hopefully to have a better result.....the drawback is it'll cost me $250 excess just for using the operating theatre even though it's only day surgery with no overnight stay. Fingers crossed. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-10, 10:30 AM
Back to the golf club elections there are 9 nominations for four Directors seats on the board which will be subject to a ballot ...voting papers to be posted to members on Friday and voting closes on 29th Sept with counting and the result declared the following day and announced at the AGM that night.

Last year there were 10 candidates and I was one of the four new faces elected ....this year three of those are unopposed as President, Treasurer and Captain while apart from one other and my goodself the other hopefuls are all new faces ...it will be an interesting contest and hopefully whoever members choose will be up to the job. :thumbsup:

There's bound to be speculation on the fact that the president elect has either nominated or seconded five of the nine nominees.....team driving..or in political speak ..branch stacking. :shutup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-10, 07:04 PM
Candidates have been advised that one of the nine nominated has decided to withdraw which is a pity as I think he would have added value to the board but his business commitments are such that he felt he didn't have the time to devote to golf club affairs and run his business as well. :tears:

Still it improves the chances of the rest of us.....and if there's a donkey vote...I'm well placed right in the middle alphabetically ...from top to bottom or visa versa it won't matter. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-15, 04:59 PM
Good news that the surgery to remove the melanoma or what was left behind after the first time was successful but no golf for a while stitches have to stay in until later in the month.......the amount of paperwork required at the hospital has to be seen to be believed...first I gave details over the phone on the day prior to the op.....arrived two hours before op as instructed .....another form filling session with one of the receptionists on arrival  ...paying excess on health cover ...then to the inner sanctum and another series of forms...undressed get into hospital gear...have the arm cleaned with some cleansing liquid......have a cardiograph taken .....blood pressure ...off to theatre 40 minutes later and I'm in recovery...have a small plate of sangers and a bottle of water ..no tea or coffee anymore....wife arrives to drive me home....can't go just yet ....more forms to fill in ...blood pressure taken and finally free to go....no shortage of nursing staff and all very kind and considerate.....one even laughed at my jokes....she was especially nice. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-17, 07:08 PM
One of the knockabout guys I mentioned previously while living in West End passed away recently Jack  Fien was his name everyone called him Jackie tacking the ie or y on to our names was uniform  when I was young.......you were Jimmy or Billy or Johnny.

Jackie's funeral notice identified him as  Jack the showman ...he was 83 and had a large family ...lived at New Farm ......his brother Arthur also deceased trained a horse for bookie Tom Marney I think it was his one and only but can't remember its name. :rip:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-19, 05:43 PM
A few moments ago I had a call from Widows Technical Department...the caller had an Indian accent but spoke clearly..... he knew who I was .....when I asked him where he was ringing from he repeated from Windows TD...no I replied  where are you calling from  Mumbai? ....with that he hung up......pity I was looking forward to a long conversation with him about what's going on over there......and fostering inter continental relations ...I do hope I haven't offended him. :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-26, 08:57 PM
 :clap2:
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Post by: ratsack on 2013-Sep-26, 10:19 PM
u been censored  by the commission    :whistle:

 :/    bit shaky round here lately 

  :lol:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-26, 10:23 PM
u been censored  by the commission    :whistle:

 :/    bit shaky round here lately  

    :lol:   



No what happened is I posted earlier about a meeting I attended tonight.....but  some time later had some more thoughts which I added ...after I finished then I put the bloody clapper icon  :clap2: on it and that was the last I saw of it...lost in cyberspace. :tears:
Only the clapper is left as evidence of  my failure. :beer:
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Post by: ratsack on 2013-Sep-26, 10:26 PM
 :yes:   sounds like my punting balance lately      :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Sep-27, 07:00 AM
Now that I‘ve recovered my thoughts after losing the post last night to a glitch in the system  I’ll try to regurgitate it as far as far as possible. ....and hopefully not lose it in the process.

Yesterday  afternoon was the last scheduled monthly meeting of the golf club  board which I consider was the most productive meeting we have had since I was elected at the 2012 AGM. We made considerable progress  settling a number of  outstanding agenda issues as well as  agreeing  on some innovative measures to take the club forward in the new year.
While there was plenty of discussion and debate in the end there was no dissension and we are united in going forward as we saddle up for the AGM on Monday  next.

The ballot for directors closes on Sunday at 12 noon and the R/O takes over ....opening the locked ballot box .....checking the returns for financial status.....opening the sealed envelope holding the ballot papers.....counting the votes and declaring the result at the AGM.

There will be at least two new directors replacing two who are retiring and with a field of 8 contesting four positions anything could happen ......it’s possible the two of us seeking re-election could be dropped and if that happens I won’t be disappointed as it’s no easy task trying to manage a golf club contending  with and trying to balance  the various competing interests to arrive at acceptable outcomes....but I have done my best and accept whatever way the cards fall.

The uncertain economic conditions and increasing costs of living families have to contend with contribute to the problems clubs have in retaining and attracting new members ...these  issues are not unique to our club others have the same problem. Faced with a declining membership and increasing costs of maintaining and presenting the golf course it's inevitable that fees have to increase putting a heavier burden on those remaining members although in recent months we are still  recruiting a few new members but overall our member numbers  are down......continuing a trend over the past two years.

All candidates provide a profile of their background and experience.... an opportunity to put our qualifications and objectives before the voters ......just like any election except it isn’t run on party lines. I took the opportunity to account for my stewardship  as a new director detailing in abbreviated form my efforts to advance the interests of the members ...mine was quite a bit longer than the others..over 800 words ..which I’m pleased to see is well under the 1000 word limit The Shortman and Albo have been restricted to in their battle to lead the ALP.

This week the golf club hosted The Gary Player Tournament for junior golfers some of whom will possibly go on to make a name for themselves  on the world stage  like Greg Norman, Jason Day. Adam Scott and others  have done before them.

So while the golf course has been given over to our young visitors it was fortuitous for me at least ,with no golf, to have the commission of inquiry to occupy my time.....an incredible amount of work was required behind the scenes to consolidate this massive amount of written material and present it in orderly form for examination in the full glare of the public spotlight brought to us at home by live streaming.....if you missed anything the transcripts are up the next day together with the exhibits which we are able to access on our PC’s.

A terrific effort by all involved although not very comfortable for those in the box.

Today however as much as I would like to watch CA Mr Bell’s examination of Big Bill Ludwig the course is open for play shortly after the commission’s opening  and when the bell rings for the opening round I’ll be on the course waiting to be called to the tee.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Oct-01, 05:13 PM
Our AGM last night went off without a hitch.....the board submitted 21 motions for changes to the Rules & By-Laws which we expected would take a fair bit of time ....but no objections to any and very few queries which limited discussion and they passed unanimously as far as I could tell from the number of hands raised. :thumbsup:

The next step is to submit the changes to the guvment for approval........and once that is received the new rules come into effect.

Relatively small crowd in attendance probably 60 or so maybe because there were no contentious issues on the Agenda. :shrug:

Not like last year when I had some motions up which brought a few more members along possibly expecting a bit of verbal biff which didn't happen.

Most interest was  in the result of the board elections ...there were 8 candidates for 4 vacancies ....two of us sought re-election and were successful so there'll be two new faces when we get together for our first meeting next week. :beer:
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Post by: ratsack on 2013-Oct-01, 06:58 PM
well done Arsenal    :clap2:

i like doers   8-)
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Oct-08, 07:51 AM
Went for a bike ride a few days ago ...haven't been on a ride for ages....so I put it on the bike rack ...drove up to the local servo inflated the tyres and set off on the freeway over to South Brisbane to start my ride......parked the car on Orleigh Drive which runs parallel to the river opposite  the St Lucia reach and set off on a leisurely ride through West End where I lived the early part of my life..... through the wonderful Southbank Parklands development following EXPO....the Botanic Gardens...all the way to  the Riverside Centre  to where the bikeway terminates near New Farm....a ride I guess of about 30kms.

Montague Road and the West End section of the river was largely industrial land when I grew up.....  inhabited by blue collar workers  many of them locals in dirty overalls riding push bikes to work .... doing dreary jobs day in and day out  for possibly little more than the basic wage...... the river side has  now  been largely  transformed into upmarket apartments ......mostly they are very attractive to look at from the street ..... with river views......not that the river is much to look at ..it's always been a dirty brown.....and at low tide the muddy banks have a smell which the new residents in their high rise units might find offensive should the breezes carry it to their balconies.

Davies Park Baths in Jane Street is long gone ...so is the old Collier Garland depot opposite where I earned a meagre wage as an office boy after leaving school...the baths have given way to boat sheds and the drive is blocked to all but those with access to the boat sheds...apart from cyclists and pedestrians who aren't impeded by the barriers.

If any of the bent coppers from the Fitzgerald Inquiry era were ever to be reborn and came back looking to collect from "Elsees" the old red/brown weatherboard Nott Street brothel in a back street off Mollison all they would get was a mouth full of dust and red eyes from the concrete plant which replaced it.......Killarney the other house of ill fame adjacent to the Pauls milk factory on Montague Rd is just a fading memory...long gone.
 
In the book Four Crooked Kings...a very interesting yarn about police corruption in Queensland...... disgraced former  Police Commissioner Terry Lewis recalls how  he would keep his weather eye on the comings and goings of the working girls from these and other similar establishments. In my youth I well remember  a black Ascot  taxi...a Citroen I think it was with a long bonnet.... known to us knockabouts as the "Moll Waggon" owned by a guy named Henderson and was the preferred  means of transport for the girls who earned their  living in the houses.

Quite remarkable to see the changes that have transformed West End from a working class suburb to a trendy close to the City collection of old cottages in their original condition to renovated ones with decks but no car parking in narrow streets with no views to the high rises ...local grocery stores replaced by a string of restaurants and cafes which always seem to be busy the two picture theatres the Rialto on Hardgrave Rd now offers a choice of eclectic food and the Lyric in Boundary St now just a few shops catering for foodies.
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Post by: monologue on 2013-Oct-08, 09:36 AM
Arsenal do you think the changes are for the better?

Amazing now that what were once known as city slums have now become the Latte cosmos.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Oct-08, 05:50 PM
I do Mono good mix IMO .....close to the City lots of amenities.....but house prices are out of proportion......in Granville St where my grandmother once lived ....one small cottage whose  front door is only one step off the footpath went for something over $700K a few years ago.....and Granville is pretty ordinary as streets go no views but handy at the Hardgrave Rd end  to cafes and restaurants and public transport.

Where we lived at 18 Crowther St in an old weatherboard high at the front low at the back facing west towards Mt Cootha which was destroyed in a fire after we sold it now supports a modern two level place which is totally out of character with its neighbours but would be a good fit in some of the newer suburbs.

I'll see if I can put it up with Google Streetview for old times sake. :beer:.

http://www.earth-scout.com/google-street-view.php?q=18%20crowther%20street%20west%20end%20brisbane%20queensland%20australia

Its the two story house with the balcony next to the White house with the bins outside. :thumbsup:
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Post by: westie on 2013-Oct-08, 07:34 PM
Arsenal
I remember as a kid competing at the Davies Park Baths, I was so young it was always across the width of the pool not the length    :lol:   Tell me the Girls State High was that in West End or closer to South Brisbane.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Oct-09, 08:30 AM
Westie ......State High is close to Musgrave Park .....probably on the boundaries of South Brisbane and Dutton Park rather than West End....the main block is in Vulture St just down from Gladstone Rd...still not too far that you couldn't walk a few hundred metres from the West End corner. :beer:

Your swimming might have been on Thursday nights at the baths run by City Pastimes.....in my younger days the little kids raced half the length of the pool ..there would be a tape across for the finish line...one of my mates "Fatty" Stewart always had to give the younger ones a few seconds start ..he was a low handicapper in golfing terms or a backmarker in trotting.....hardly ever caught the judge's eye having to concede so much start. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Nov-22, 06:41 AM
Pacific Golf Club conducted a Pro-Am on Monday the first for many years when previously it was an annual event......reintroducing it was one of the  first proposals I put  to my colleagues  after being elected to the board......and as Pro-Ams require a significant amount of funding which is difficult to get in the current economic climate we had the choice of running it with Trainees or members of the Legends those older professionals who no longer compete in the major PGA tour events and whose prize money requirements  are more easily met.

The major sponsor we found for the event was a club member Russell Loane MD of Eye Lighting Industries who has been a very generous contributor to the club over many years. :no1:
Most of the sponsorship is allocated to the professional golfers with the balance to the PGA organisation....amateurs pay an entry fee in this case it was $35.

Despite the dismal weather forecast Monday's weather was marvellous for 99% of the day until a ferocious storm hit the course as players were finishing their rounds  after a shotgun start at 12 noon. Some lightning was seen as we finished the last hole but nobody was affected fortunately as play is stopped once lightning occurs.
 
We had 102 players....each group of members or visitors played with a trainee .......trainees playing stroke while amateurs hit from the same blue tees in a single stableford as well as each of the group playing a 4BB with the trainee.


The young guy who won the trainee event shot 8 under par and the cash prizes went down to those who shot 75 or better .... the best amateur stableford score was 38 points the winner received a golf bag........prizes of a shirt were handed to 3 ladies who scored 30 points while the rundown for the men was 34 ..I missed out on 33 points but I have a wardrobe full of shirts.

I had better luck in the 4BBwith my partner Elliott Sullivan from Peregian Springs cleaning up the opposition up with 45 points and collecting another golf bag to the four I already have .

After the game presentations were made by the PGA while food and drinks were being served.

Those  who took part were pleased with the organization and hopefully it can be improved upon and become a regular event in future. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2013-Dec-27, 07:26 PM
During my enforced lay off from physical activity following some minor surgery I have turned to the written word to help fill in the waking hours.It turned out to be a stroll down memory lane in a sense when I picked up a book at a library dispersal sale "Nor Iron Bars A Cage" by J R "Roy" Stephenson an autobiography of his life as a warder, superintendent and eventually deputy comptroller general of prisons. I had very little to do with Roy personally although I spent many hours representing union members employed in the Qld prison service during his time.

My only memory of Roy was one day during the Bredhauer Inquiry held in the conference room at Boggo Rd with representatives of the Prison Officers' section of the QSSU Roy stuck his head around the door to announce "Mr Bredhauer's lunch is ready". Those of us not included in this invitation to lunch made our own arrangements crossing Annerley Rd to the Dutch Club  opposite which Roy noted in his book was to become the unofficial HQ of the prison officers during the course of Mr Bredhauer's Inquiry.

Roy's comments on the appointment of Pat Bredhauer, my old boss when Union General Secretary, to conduct an inquiry after the Boggo Rd riots were anything but complimentary. Bredhauer had been appointed some time before by the government as a member of the three person Public Service Board to replace the former  Public Service Commissioner and Roy made no secret of the fact that he thought it was a mistake to give him the job of investigating the problems at HM Prison Brisbane “as a mere public servant who knew nothing about running a jail” .
Roy would have much preferred a Magistrate to have been given the job. At the time visiting justices usually local magistrates made periodic visits to the jails to hear complaints and grievances from the inmates and Roy was familiar with them and most likely would have accepted them with good grace.

Sir Gordon Chalk was Acting Premier when the government decided to have this inquiry and he had dealings with Bredhauer when he was union secretary and possibly was an influential figure in his appointment to the PSB.As a union we got along very well with Chalkie.So it was no surprise that PJB  was chosen to head the inquiry.Chalkie  no doubt considered him a reliable man for the job especially with his union background and many years  experience of  dealing with prison officers.
 
Roy much to his frustration was excluded from the inquiry while submissions were made by the prison officers and their representatives and to add insult to injury the Bredhauer Report was subject to jail gossip (The Hominy Gazette as Roy described it)  and speculation when it was coming what it would find and Roy was itching to find out what the outcome would be.

When it finally surfaced Roy took to it with red ruler ridiculing the recommendations but the final straw was when Bredhauer demanded he reinstate two suspended prison officers which he reluctantly agreed to as being bound to follow an order from a superior officer but tendered his resignation forthwith which fortuitously before it took effect he received notice of his appointment as deputy comptroller general of prisons.

No doubt that Roy led an interesting life and his writings record many notable events in the history of Boggo Rd like the unsolved escape of two maximum security prisoners  one of whom died while on the run while  the other was recaptured but refused to reveal the details of the escape. Roy didn’t buy the block and tackle theory spreading the bars allowing the prisoners to squeeze through them and infers it was an inside job although he was unable to substantiate this theory.

I think from his writings and experiences Roy would have been fearless in confronting violent prisoners and he wasn’t the kind to turn the other cheek when the occasion demanded a firm approach. Sometimes he seemed to be compassionate and caring yet on others he would take the opposite position .
One result which he attributed to the Bredhauer Inquiry which got up his nose somewhat was the substantial 20% increase in prison officers award  wages which contrary to his views wasn’t handed on a platter but was argued against strong opposition from the government and granted by the Industrial Commission  a good job by the union which Roy thought placed prison officers unfairly above the lower ranks in the public service.

One thing I agree with Roy is that prison administrators need to have hands on experience in the prison systems and appointing public servants with clerical and administrative backgrounds to head the Prisons Dept has proved to be a failure.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Feb-19, 07:36 PM
My brother rang yesterday to remind me that Mum had she lived would have turned 100 yesterday.
Unfortunately she died in 1969 at 54 years of age.
I remember it well it was the Australia Day weekend and I usually rang her on race days.
This day Monday she didn't answer the phone which was most unusual as I knew she wouldn't have gone out that early in the morning.
So I drove over to West End and not having a key knocked on the front door ...but no answer.
So from the front landing I climbed along the drainpipe to reach the open lounge room window.....and there she was sitting in her lounge chair facing the TV.
It was a heart attack and probably quick and hopefully painless as her face showed no sign of agony....she looked very peaceful.
I rang the priest Monsigneur Keating who came and gave her the last rites there was nothing else we could do. :rip:

Her sister is still living she is 98 and while not in the best of health her mind is as sharp as ever. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Feb-23, 05:45 PM
Talking to a mate at golf yesty about serving the public......he told me a story when he had a corner store back in the days before supermarkets...the customer came in and put two toilet rolls on the counter..." How can I help you MrsXXX? " he asked...the good lady replied that she was expecting guests from Sydney....but they didn't come and she wanted to return the toilet paper for a refund.  :lol:
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Post by: monologue on 2014-Feb-23, 05:55 PM
Nothing wrong with that.
I recycle mine by hanging it on the line and beating the  :crap: out of it.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Feb-26, 06:37 PM
Lately I've become a victim of the shank the worst shot in golf ......once in a round is bad enough but three or four times on consecutive days is deadly .....almost enough to think about giving  the game away...so I practiced in the back yard and even there I shanked the occasional shot......on the practice range I managed to shank a couple but still saddled up to play in the comp......without much confidence ......and I lost count of the number of shanks ......I had the worst score ever 15 points and  ran a long and miserable last .......apart from the handful who didn't submit a card ...maybe they were just as bad or worse and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of publicizing their score. :shy:

But today was different I mastered the shank never to appear again ....I had 24 points on the front nine and 14 on the back with 4 washes. With no shanks to blame I found the bunkers and couldn't get out .......otherwise It was a welcome change of form.....and to my surprise 38 points was enough to win C grade which was well below the top scores in the other grades ..so it was just one of those days when fortune smiled on me. :beer:

As Eric Connolly once remarked "Money lost nothing lost...Confidence lost ..everything lost." :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Mar-10, 06:03 PM
Had a game of golf today on my home course which is in excellent condition.......after some minor surgery  this was my first game for a while  ...and I was just glad to be out there playing with the BDVGA .......all the old guys.

If there was a shot of the day like Fox sports has on the Golf Show I reckon I would have given it a shake....on the 11th hole a par 5 I hit a poor drive out to the right which  finished on the first fairway...I tried to thread a rescue through the trees but hit one slap bang in the middle sending the ball back another 20 metres still on the first .......next shot with the rescue cleared the trees and finished about 230m from the green on top of the rise.

I hit a reasonable  5 wood down the middle which finished  77m from the green ........the next shot was a wonder to behold ........a  gap wedge to the green bounced once went sideways hit the pin and stayed in the hole a miraculous par. :beer:
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Post by: dubbledee on 2014-Mar-10, 07:37 PM
I guess the Hall of Fame inductees were the topic of conversation.

 :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Mar-11, 07:46 AM
I guess the Hall of Fame inductees were the topic of conversation.

 :whistle:

I wish :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Mar-12, 07:42 AM
I'm not unduly superstitious but I've seen plenty of evidence over the years that bad news comes in threes.
Last night I was told that the youngest son of my former Union President  passed away unexpectedly yesterday at only 46 years of age.
Earlier in the day  I had an email from a former golfing partner that another former member of our group has a tumour on the brain and has lost the power of speech. I spoke to his wife and they are seeing the specialist today hoping that it might not be a tumour but an abscess.
The other bad news was that the third former member's wife has cancer of the liver and the colon and is receiving chemo.....hopefully that completes the three bad news for me.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Mar-24, 06:06 PM
Had a game of golf today...suckered into match play with my mate ....I got my arse kicked well and truly.......the highlight of the day was seeing a medium sized Koala about to climb a gum tree about 50 metres from the first tee.....he posed for a photo but my camera phone didn't capture it well enough to post...but it's a good photo of the gum tree. :shy:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Mar-25, 07:26 PM
It was only a week or so ago I learned that one of my former golfing partners has a tumour on the brain, the possibility of it being an abscess gave them some hope, but he has since had surgery which relieved the pressure on his brain and restored his power of speech but the surgeon said there was nothing more he could do as he wouldn't withstand more complex surgery.
He has been sent home with very limited life expectancy... a few weeks .....his wife is a good woman and is caring for him with medication to manage his condition...six months ago he appeared to be full of life..then the Alzheimer's became apparent and it was all downhill from there.

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Post by: chuggers on 2014-Mar-25, 07:44 PM
It was only a week or so ago I learned that one of my former golfing partners has a tumour on the brain, the possibility of it being an abscess gave them some hope, but he has since had surgery which relieved the pressure on his brain and restored his power of speech but the surgeon said there was nothing more he could do as he wouldn't withstand more complex surgery.
He has been sent home with very limited life expectancy... a few weeks .....his wife is a good woman and is caring for him with medication to manage his condition...six months ago he appeared to be full of life..then the Alzheimer's became apparent and it was all downhill from there.



Arsie,

Excacly how my mother in law died...Brain tumour....six weeks ...so quick...she lost it about a month before .....being  "normal"...


Sorry mate..know how you feel....

 :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Mar-26, 07:48 AM
Thanks chuggers a very sad ending ...death is inevitable but in most cases it's usually unexpected.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Apr-29, 05:36 PM
Yesterday along with another 100 or so veteran golfers I headed up the highway to Pacific Harbour Golf Resort on Bribie Island for a game organised by the BDVGA .....not very good weather showery cold and windy.....but this course is truly exceptional and is a credit to the greens staff......hardly a blade of grass out of place ...but very difficult in the conditions.......designed by Ross Watson as a Links course the fairways are immaculate but water surrounds  many of the holes which cost me a stack of golf balls......and the bunkers are deep and deadly although no complaints about the sand probably indigenous to the property being close to the coast......what would have been a memorable day was less than enjoyable due to the weather.......and the course rating of 130 is the same as my home course but deserving of a much higher rating based on the averages of our group......the Bradman score was 12 points the average about 20.

I should have known it wasn't going to be a good day as although I got out of bed in plenty of time to meet our designated driver ..it was about 5.45am in the half light when we left to pick up the third member whose address the driver found difficult to locate despite him claiming to have good local knowledge ......I reckon we drove around and around the suburb of tiny winding crescents and dead ends  for 20 minutes before finding the street where he lives ......then to pick up the last member and an uneventful trip to the course...where we found the golf buggy allocated to my partner and me with only half a windscreen ...no sign of the top bit so no protection from the wind and rain......and the battery warning light was on zero but it still managed to last the distance which was a relief.......on the credit side despite playing badly we managed to beat our opposition and won their money which was some consolation .......all in all it was one of the worst days I have spent on the golf course ...due to the weather......and to top it off I thought I had lost my 60degree lob wedge.....I asked around but nobody had picked it up..I rang the club today but it hadn't been handed in ...I was resigned to not seeing it again.....but later this morning when cleaning my clubs it miraculously reappeared in my golf bag ...where it had been all along.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-May-11, 05:00 PM
I'm reading Matthew Condon's second book Jacks and Jokers a follow on from his Three Crooked Kings all about the days when almost anything goes in Queensland mainly vice and gambling SP until shut down after the RC set up by Bill Gunn under Tony Fitzgerald QC.

While it's very interesting to recall the past the story doesn't flow....the chapters are short and very disjointed jumping from one thing to another with no continuity.
 
I knew and had met or knew of many of the characters mentioned on both sides of the fence......the cops and the crooks....mostly they are no longer with us.

One in particular named "Cyclone" was connected with the Bellinos who ran the gambling in the Valley. I knew him through the trots and I did him a favour and in return he came to my house with some material one of his mates was marketing to remove oil and grease stains from the cement floor of the garage and it did the job.

I remember one day at Rocklea he put his foot through one of the planks in the seat of the grandstand and suffered a minor injury but when he reported it to the office he was ignored which was a costly mistake as he took the club on and we had to settle his damages when if given some consideration to begin with he would have been happy with a lot less.

I did hear he left in a hurry for WA although I did see him some years ago in the Casino but not recently as I no longer follow the trots since the HRB closed Rocklea.
 
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-May-14, 05:58 PM
I went in to town yesty in the bus.....had to top up my Go card to begin with.....it's the only way to go. :thumbsup:

I was looking for a pair of strides for golf...which had to have pleats I don't like the flat fronts which are readily available....went to all the menswear stores.....there are not so many these days.

Stuarts the Suit Specialists which in bygone days had a huge windowed store opposite the Treasury ...now if you blink you'll pass it ...in George St down the lower level of a building my old Union thought about buying but settled for the former Law Society HQ in Albert St ....shared space with Admiral Quarters....next Roger David nothing....Myer find a sales person to begin with if you're lucky ...but nothing .....David Jones plenty to choose from if you like plain ..black, grey or charcoal ...none with pleats   ..... the guy from Roger David very helpfully suggested Studio196 upstairs in the Myer Centre and it was here that I found something resembling what I had in mind......only one pleat though but a nice plain Wheat coloured linen made in Italy and reduced from $169 to a bargain $80....only alteration required is to shorten the length...$16 at our local alteration service in Upper Mt Gravatt. :beer:

I had thought about renewing my association with George Symons Suits where I bought all my suits when we were opposite his shop in Elizabeth St...but George is there in name only  having retired long ago ....the business has moved twice and now is in South Brisbane and has been sold again to a new owner ......I did inquire about the cost of a pair of tailored strides .....from $280 which is about the norm......then today in the CM there's an ad from the Hong Kong Tailor who is coming to town .....strides from $120....no wonder local businesses are scarce or that it's worth coming half way around the world to drum up business...and using Australian wool to make them.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-May-16, 09:44 PM
Another fellow I had dealings with in my union days gets a mention in the book ...Clarrie Osborne was Chief Hansard Reporter ...as I remember him short of stature but reportedly very good at his job although not overly popular with staff .....sat on a cushion to appear taller than he was ...turned out to be a pedophile .....and committed suicide .....lived at Mt Gravatt that's something I didn't know .

Strange how things turn out......... in the book Osborne consulted criminologist Paul Wilson who makes some comments on him ...Wilson  hisself on TV news today ...charged on several counts of unlawful sexual assault on under age female(s)...Wilson strenuously denies charges and vows through his solicitor Bill Potts to defend hisself and is very much looking forward to his day in court.

Wilson and the late George Freeman had some history as I recall according to Freeman in his self titled book he did a bit of digging on Wilson and threatened to expose him for engaging in under age sex ....Wilson according to Freeman pleaded for forgiveness pointing out that he married the girl.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-May-27, 06:00 PM
A beautiful day in Brisbane today practically summer with a slight breeze coming off the Bay .....my wife and I had lunch in a café on the front at Sandgate and sat for a while admiring the clouds and the patterns in the sky with the mud flats in front of us....the tide was well out.
Very little activity going on apart from the seagulls and the occasional Ibis trying to cadge a feed from leftovers in the park and passers by walking or riding along the path next to the sea wall.
We noticed several dogs running about unleashed a long way out on the mud flats ...they were having a great time with their owners some distance away looking on ....and then it happened two of them caught sight of the other .....an Alsatian and a Staffordshire ......and it was on  a dog fight ...yelping and howling one obviously got the better of the other ...both owners rushed towards the fighting dogs..one got there before the other and tried to separate them and was knocked down for his trouble ..the other owner arrived and met the same fate ...by then some girls ran over to help.....and when the fight was over.......the Alsatian was quickly back on the leash and appeared uninjured when led away ..the Staffy took some time to get up but eventually after both parties finished  a long confab  discussing the situation it too was back on the leash and walked away.
Maybe next time the owners will know better than to let their dogs run loose although some people never learn.
It's unlawful to allow any dog to run unleashed although I sometimes see them on bike paths where they can be a danger to walkers and cyclists.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-May-28, 08:56 AM
Saw Jimmy Walker on the Golf show almost collect a bird in flight high in the sky with his drive...most unusual.

On Monday I collected a plover with a low shot got it on the head and without a word of a lie the ball took a right turn ricocheted 20m and finished up under a culvert unplayable lie...  so a free drop .......the plover seemed uninjured....these birds are a menace on the golf course ..nesting on the ground and very aggressive if threatened...the best policy is not to make eye contact if you have to get near them. :sweat:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-01, 01:53 PM
Had an unexpected accident last night on my way home ......stationary in a line of traffic waiting for the lights to change a massive bang ..hit in the back and cannoned into the car in front ...a massive 4 car pileup.....caused by a woman who for whatever reason wasn't concentrating and ploughed into the car behind me which stove in my boot and caused my car to hit the car in front...all 4 cars had to be towed although the car mine hit suffered only minor damage to the rear.......fire brigade...ambulance arrived promptly and eventually the police appeared ..the young constable came from Holland Park yet the crash was only about a quarter mile from Mt Gravatt police HQ.Had a breath test all negative I don't know about the woman who caused the accident.She appeared very confused when I spoke to her gave me her name and I asked did she cause the accident she said "apparently".The cars were marked with a sticker air bags not deployed and the tow truck driver told me the Firies disconnected the battery so I couldn't close the open window when it started to rain.
The para medics checked me over as I had some chest pain and very high blood pressure 195/90 and while I declined their offer to go to hospital I reconsidered once the tow truck driver dropped me home and rang the ambulance and went to QE2 hospital emergency.I  had blood pressure checks it had come down considerably now 157/70 and cardiograph which disclosed no cardiac issues and a chest Xray which showed no obvious fractures or broken ribs and I was free to go very relieved I hadn't had another MI.
It was a very good choice to go to QE2 fantastic treatment all delivered in a very short time.I was most impressed by them. :thumbsup:
The car will be out of action for an unknown period depending on the assessors and availability of the repairer.I know a guy from the golf club in the panel business and he may be able to fit me in a bit quicker.
Will know the outcome in the next 48 hours according to the insurance Co....I jibbed at them telling me I'll be up for $500 excess...the rep said they'll sort out liability with the other Insurers..I heard the woman who caused the crash isn't insured so if that turns out to be true I doubt very much they'll be able to recover the repair costs from her..if she is too poor to insure and as she looked only a step or two above skid row they'll have to whistle for their damages. :o
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Post by: chuggers on 2014-Jun-01, 08:37 PM
Had an unexpected accident last night on my way home ......stationary in a line of traffic waiting for the lights to change a massive bang ..hit in the back and cannoned into the car in front ...a massive 4 car pileup.....caused by a woman who for whatever reason wasn't concentrating and ploughed into the car behind me which stove in my boot and caused my car to hit the car in front...all 4 cars had to be towed although the car mine hit suffered only minor damage to the rear.......fire brigade...ambulance arrived promptly and eventually the police appeared ..the young constable came from Holland Park yet the crash was only about a quarter mile from Mt Gravatt police HQ.Had a breath test all negative I don't know about the woman who caused the accident.She appeared very confused when I spoke to her gave me her name and I asked did she cause the accident she said "apparently".The cars were marked with a sticker air bags not deployed and the tow truck driver told me the Firies disconnected the battery so I couldn't close the open window when it started to rain.
The para medics checked me over as I had some chest pain and very high blood pressure 195/90 and while I declined their offer to go to hospital I reconsidered once the tow truck driver dropped me home and rang the ambulance and went to QE2 hospital emergency.I  had blood pressure checks it had come down considerably now 157/70 and cardiograph which disclosed no cardiac issues and a chest Xray which showed no obvious fractures or broken ribs and I was free to go very relieved I hadn't had another MI.
It was a very good choice to go to QE2 fantastic treatment all delivered in a very short time.I was most impressed by them. :thumbsup:
The car will be out of action for an unknown period depending on the assessors and availability of the repairer.I know a guy from the golf club in the panel business and he may be able to fit me in a bit quicker.
Will know the outcome in the next 48 hours according to the insurance Co....I jibbed at them telling me I'll be up for $500 excess...the rep said they'll sort out liability with the other Insurers..I heard the woman who caused the crash isn't insured so if that turns out to be true I doubt very much they'll be able to recover the repair costs from her..if she is too poor to insure and as she looked only a step or two above skid row they'll have to whistle for their damages. :o

Arsenal,

Shite....bad day day for you....so glad you are Ok.....cannot see how you could be up for the excess...you are not in the wrong apparently...it is the insurers problem on the person...who is uninsured....

Main thing..,you are ok....Cheers...

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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-02, 07:44 AM
Thanks chuggers have recovered well......I'm going to see if the police report is available as my obligation under the Insurance policy was to get all details of the other drivers ..phone numbers addresses etc which I omitted to do...I only took rego numbers and drivers names .....no doubt due to some shock and other issues I had at the time...in my thoughts I can still feel the impact..I can't imagine how much worse it would be had the crash involved a collision at speed.
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Post by: monologue on 2014-Jun-02, 09:46 AM
Good to hear you got out of it OK in the health stakes.

With fixed cameras everywhere these days I wonder if there could be some images from the scene.

Was she on her phone?  I've seen a few reports which state talking and txting on phone whilst driving are major contributors of accidents.
Hope it all works our for you Arsenal and you're not out of pocket.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-03, 05:56 PM
Thanks Mono not a happy ending I did expect the car could be repaired and the only inconvenience would be managing with only one car between us but after having  the damage pointed out  to us by the assessor and the extent of the repair job explained it was a nasty surprise.

The bad news is our car is a write off.......could be repaired but at a cost...not economic according to the assessors.. parts alone would cost just over $7K and labour at least that much possibly more......only had 70Kms on the clock was 2006 model which my wife loved and we will get $9K which isn't enough to buy a comparable replacement ......it could have been worse. :sweat:

I spoke to the police constable who has yet to complete his report which will be available from Citec at a cost but  there's no point in my getting it now......the woman who caused the accident has no explanation ...claiming she (may have) blacked out...the insurers will try to recover their costs from her ...good luck with that...the insurance guy told me in many cases uninsured persons only pay $5 a week...hardly worth the effort in chasing them and keeping the records.

Now to find another car for the missus. :beer:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-04, 08:43 AM
One outcome after my accident is I'm very nervous when stopped at the lights and driving in traffic...... in my rear vision mirror when I see a car coming from behind...wondering if it'll be able to stop in time....and on the highway trying to keep ahead of the morons in trucks and big bull bar vehicles who tail gate.....but on the credit side I've made the acquaintance of several used car salesmen who all appear to be very much better than their much maligned associates down towards the bottom of the social scale ...maybe the type casting isn't all its cracked up to be. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-06, 06:54 PM
I may have to revise my opinion of at least one of the used car salesmen I've met this week......one guy I talked to yesty told me he had just the car for us ..it would be in his yard Saturday or Monday only 24000Kms on the clock .....he'll ring when it arrives ......a few hours later further up the main road where the dealers are ...another guy offered the same car......he traded it in and until we arrived I guess it was intended for the first guy...now it looks like whatever deal the two used car guys had is dead.......they have to catch and kill their own in the jungle. :o
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-13, 08:28 PM
Doing the rounds of the used car yards through the week I was reminded of the UK TV series Minder about a shifty London used car dealer Arthur and his minder Terry played by Denis Waterman.........I ran into an old school type like Arthur or Arfur as many of his associates called him ...This guy though whose name is Terry......."Hullo Terry" I said ..as we walked by ....he was talking to a client ...clearly he didn't remember my name ...but as quick as a flash he did the next best thing ...calling out  in response "Guvnor" I thought that was priceless. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-18, 08:39 AM
One of my old golfing mates who has now given up playing has a vivid imagination and makes up stories to suit the circumstances this one a pretend that he fought in Jimmy Sharman's boxing tent.....which he never did....he wouldn't beat time with a stick.

The other day he ran into one of my current golfing partners who is quick on the uptake and has a good  SOH.....seeing the old guy alight from his vehicle he said "I thought you were going to have a go at me ".....the old guy replied    "You'd know it if I did...I used to box with Jimmy Sharman's Troupe" to which the other guy told me he replied.." There would only be two hits in it if that happened "......"O yeah why is that?" said the old guy.......the other guy replied " I'd hit you and you'd hit the ground"  :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-24, 09:24 AM
Golf is a dangerous game ...ask anyone who has been hit by a misdirected golf ball travelling at up to 100mph....two guys I know at our club lost the sight in one eye after being hit on the head ..I've been hit twice once very hard on the left knee which fortunately didn't break another time on the shin both hurt like hell but no long term damage and I had two lucky escapes on Saturday.

We were playing the 9th a long par 5 and were waiting to hit our third shots over Bulimba Creek when a guy playing the 18th who had hit on to our fairway unloaded and came up short of where we were...golfing etiquette and common sense requires him to wait until the fairway is clear before playing his next shot but he lined up without giving us the chance to take cover and instead of hitting on to the 18th his misdirected shot went over my head to finish in the greenside bunker short of  the 9th green ...naturally I told him off and he didn't even apologise ...an arrogant prick who was in the wrong but didn't have the decency to admit it...if I wanted to take it further I could report him to the Board but unless I have a change of heart I don't think I'll bother....he'll only get a letter and skite about it to his mates.

The second near miss was when I was holding the flag on the 18th and I felt the ball whiz past my head at a decent speed and finish at the back of the green ...had it been a foot or so closer it might have hit me on the back of the head...it came from a guy trying to hit to the 9th green but his aim was well astray and he laughed it off ...saying he had me lined up ......the little prick wouldn't have been laughing had it hit me...we both would have finished in hospital.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jun-24, 06:48 PM
My wife and I went over to Carindale today to do some shopping lots of bargains if you need or can't resist them .....getting in was more difficult than usual due to road works in the vicinity of the entrance we are used to so had to detour up the road a bit and do a u turn and come in the rear entrance which we've never used before ......Westfield at Carindale is massive so easy to lose your bearings and get lost and there are no directory boards that we could see but plenty of shops to choose from.

In the shoe Dept of Myer you're on your own not like the old days where staff got out the shoes and that foot measuring contraption and made sure they fitted  today the only staff were manning the cash register ...it was catch and kill yer own...so I picked out a pair of Hush Puppies nice leather slip ons tried them on walked around in them and took off my old shoes and paid for their replacements saved $40 off regular price and put the old ones in the bin when we arrived home.

Before tossing the shoe box out I noticed a card promoting the science involved in making the shoes and "some tips to help you make feet healthy choices" one of which reads "For the healthiest feet, rotate shoes regularly"

Well that's all well and good but let me tell you it's bloody uncomfortable putting your right foot into the left shoe and visa versa that's one tip I won't be trying a second time.  :lol:  
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-09, 07:11 PM
While my memory ain't as good as it used to be I think my round of golf today would be the worst ever in my 26 odd years playing the great game. :(

Only 18 points in perfect conditions and 7 washes......started off badly by paying my comp fee with a Singapore dollar which I use as a ball marker instead of the real Aussie dollar .... I only discovered the mistake when marking my ball on the first green...then one of the others in the group, not a regular I'm pleased to say, put on a tantrum throwing his club and cursing after a couple of bad shots then he put his next ball into Bulimba Creek and declared he had enough and was pulling out...very bad form leaving his partner who is dependent on riding with him without a ride so I took him and that was an experience .....he hits one way and me the opposite .....keeping track of where the balls finished was a job in itself ...I lost two balls on the fairways.

Then on the 16th I hit the longest drive ever about 1 metre from the pond and only 80 odd metres from the green too far for a lob wedge so hit the gap wedge instead of a nice soft landing the ball skidded over the green into a disused garden bed covered in mulch 50m away ...I took two to reach the green and two puts to hole it for a 6 and one point. That was that...the only good thing was I managed to retrieve the Singapore dollar in exchange for the right money. :rolleyes:

Tomorrow is another day .Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-10, 10:30 AM
I'm almost half way through a book loaned to me by one of my golfing mates who used to be a Prison Officer at HM Prison Brisbane better known as Boggo Road which is the title of the book written by Tom King a former PO hisself .... a man I first met while doing National service .....he and I would get together at the races in our single days and we renewed association in our working lives....he on the inside and me on the outside. :beer:

This is quite a good book which brings back many memories of my early days representing Prison Officers in industrial matters although the focus is on the prison system itself and how the corporates took over to the detriment of reform and abandoned the many progressive policies introduced by former administrators including Tom King while Superintendent at the now decommissioned Woodford Prison.

Tom's story starts from his introduction into the prison service as a probationary warder who commenced duty at Boggo Rd at 10PM in 1956..usually new appointees would start in daylight hours. He mentions many names that I remember being active in the Union one of whom he attributes the nick of "Lightning" was a staunch ally of mine in many a crisis.....I never knew he was known as Lightning......but the book reveals how this came to be his jail house moniker.

"The Lightning was not because of the speed with which he flashed about ,but by the slow ,contemplated, snail pace with which approached and evaluated routine tasks .Nothing escaped Lightning, and he was able to delve into and confirm the manipulations , and in some cases, abuses, that were being occasioned by some of the prisoners in clerical and sub-administrative postings within the prison .He got very active in the union, and his lead meant other chief and senior officers who previously had been intimidated ,began to take an interest in changing the neglect and compromise." 

He was a good mate old Lightning none better. :thumbsup:
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Post by: monologue on 2014-Jul-10, 01:07 PM
Sounds like a good read Arsie and might see if I can track down a copy.

A neighbour of mine is a Po himself and I love listening to some of the stories he tells us.

Had a little bit to do with Woodford prison back in the eighties when it was low security and have a couple of stories from there myself which probably won't ever see light of day on here but gets a laugh whenever I tell it.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-10, 07:13 PM
Mono I think you would enjoy it lots of anecdotes about jail routine ......inquiries and industrial disputes....quite a few press clippings which I haven't got to yet.....assaults and certain inmates Tom describes as solid crims...one story briefly mentioned in the book I remember him telling me about after the event was the Fine Cotton ring in....while Super at Woodford one of the dog handlers took particular note of three southern visitors and a well connected NSW prisoner he called Bert who had a lengthy criminal record discussing something planned on a Brisbane racecourse the next weekend ...part of the conversation he overheard  the crim telling the visitors was..."It's a goer everything is in place...be on it."......the assumption was an armed robbery of a bookie or the TAB was the plan ...Caboolture police were alerted and stopped the car , questioned the occupants but found everything in order apart from a shotgun in the boot which was explained by the occupants that  they were planning some game shooting. There wasn't any hold up or armed robbery but the Fine Cotton substitution was effected on the suspect day....not just a coincidence. :o
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Post by: arthur on 2014-Jul-11, 07:17 AM
And on a not unrelated note . .

In the north the 'punting policemen' led the charge to get on FC  :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-15, 08:29 PM
I bought a pullover the other day Pure Wool Ansett brand is one I like have done for years thinking it was Made in Australia until I checked out the label cleverly hidden inside the seam half way up...Made in China...still I got a bargain original price $89 reduced to $49 and then a surprise to find another 25% off paid only $37.48 David Jones my store or it used to be now Woolworths International from South Africa takeover might make it better or worse. Giddyup.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-17, 10:59 AM
At golf yesty on the 3rd a short Par3 165m we were called up by the players already on the green.....it's usual to mark the balls on the green when calling up....but in this case they were in plain sight...maybe the group thought we were not much chance of getting on the green off the tee....my ball hit one and moved it fractionally.....as the group ahead were leaving one of them a guy I know quite well and talk to whenever we run into each other ...told me it was his ball I had hit and he noticed it had the same purple markings as his own and both were the same brand...I told him it was one I found...turns out it was one he had lost .....quite a coincidence both balls meeting this way...as it happened mine was NTP which was the only bright spot in an otherwise forgettable round. Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: monologue on 2014-Jul-17, 05:21 PM
Spent part of my other life working on or near golf courses .
Often we would fill up a bucket with golf balls from wayward swingers.

Arsenal, have you any idea how many balls you would lose over a season?
I once knew a guy in Sydney that had the rights to scavenge for balls from the lakes and water ways on course and he said he did very well out of it.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-17, 08:00 PM
Spent part of my other life working on or near golf courses .
Often we would fill up a bucket with golf balls from wayward swingers.

Arsenal, have you any idea how many balls you would lose over a season?
I once knew a guy in Sydney that had the rights to scavenge for balls from the lakes and water ways on course and he said he did very well out of it.

I finish in front Mono.....while I lose a few I find more than I lose ...there is lots of water at Pacific.....I've got draws full of used ones in the garage ...have given away hundreds ...and have over 8 doz new ones still in their boxes...golf balls won at my club can be traded in at the Pro shop on something you might need instead like gloves or clubs.... anything in stock.....ball value is $2.75.....recently I bought 6 Cabretta gloves worth $60 by trading in 22 balls. Giddyup.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-20, 06:10 PM
My wife and I went down to the Coast today......the water was magnificent but the day turned cool in the afternoon and the clouds came in with rain likely somewhere...we went over to Tweed Heads where my wife did some shopping ...the shopping mall is full of ladies clothing shops ...I didn't notice one menswear store...maybe widows outnumber the men ...she bought something at a Black Pepper store ...many years ago I bought a pacer whose sire was named Black Pepper ..the young attractive shop assistant thought this a pleasant coincidence as she said she loves horses...unfortunately the one by Black Pepper which was named Bass Hill  won only one race for me at Ipswich and I sold him cheaply up North where he won a few races at Cairns .

We had lunch at a Fish Shop in Tweed Heads which has a deck right on the river very good it was too.....the missus had barra & chips too many to eat ...while I had ocean fresh prawns & bug tails with a couple of potato scallops...very nice indeed.....filled up the car ULP 1.58 cheaper than Brisbane at present 1.65 last time I noticed.

On the way home we called in at Yatala to buy a couple of pies for later in the week and a custard tart for her and a caramel one for me...the first person I saw sitting on the veranda was a woman who looked like jolly old Roseleigh Rose ...Corby's mother ..tough looking old girl on the TV but if it was her I saw in the flesh she scrubbed up pretty well. Giddyup.  :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-21, 10:30 AM
Had a phone call from an old racing mate recently......we used to go to the races together.....now neither of us do ...we just talk on the phone occasionally.

I asked him had he heard from Bill the former Yellow Cab driver who used to keep in touch but has dropped out of sight...Bill lives in semi retirement  these days and has given up the punt as he is unable to work due to some health issues...Bill always bet above his means when he had money ..he knocked off a six figure damages award in a couple of years betting in $1K units......on the nod .....one day when the three of us were all together  at a mid week meeting at EF he bet in his own name on behalf of another casual acquaintance we used to  run into at the races ...this guy a very personable chap who had arrived on the scene a few months earlier.... exchanged information freely and  bet big ..he had a computer program which he shared......he was having a bad trot this day and talked Bill into putting some bets on for him  with Bill's bookie on the nod supplementing his own nod bets trying to get square ........the bets lost and he was never seen again ..leaving Bill holding the bag which he was paying off at $100 a week.

My mate told me Bill thinks he is on clover ...in the complex where he lives they have get togethers so the residents can meet one another in a social setting...and he was introduced to a Muslim woman in full Islamic clobber who didn't let go his hand.........afterwards when Bill went back to his unit there was a knock on the door ......the Muslim woman......Bill said she got her gear off quicker than he could.....and the conjugal visits continue.

Bill said he has waited all his life for something like this to happen. :heart:
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Post by: monologue on 2014-Jul-22, 09:06 PM
Hope you got on Arsenal


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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-23, 09:04 AM
Hope you got on Arsenal


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No Mono..that's the first I've heard of it. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-24, 08:00 AM
I bought a set of irons online from  www.Rockbottomgolf.com  in the USA last week ...ordered them on Tuesday ...left Norfolk Virginia next day..... next stop Louisville KY then Honolulu arrived Botany on Thursday......and they arrived at my door on Monday.........took less time to get from USA to Sydney than it took from Sydney to Brisbane.....possibly due to road transport being slower than air freight...even though the AUD is below parity with the USD and adding freight charges and currency conversion fee charged by my bank they were less than half the price I would have had to pay here. Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: westie on 2014-Jul-24, 05:54 PM
Arsenal
Did you buy Ping's ?
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-24, 07:05 PM
No westie not this time ..I have had two lots of Pings but found them only average...these days they're all made in China like most golf gear .... mine were green dot with cushin inserts ...still I like Ping putters have two of those and one Scotty Cameron. I bought Tour Edge Exotics XCG6 irons with regular graphite shafts..... so far so good......much cheaper than Pings and just as good if not better. Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-31, 10:02 AM
Third time lucky with my new clubs.....I had a good day yesty 37 points on my own and a respectable 44 in a 4BB with my 88yo ex dog trainer partner ..today though it's a different game..Skins with two other burglars who to date have seen me as their Thursday ATM...one is a huntin, fishin , shootin, bloke who loves going to the USA for the sport...he took riding lessons in Brisbane before going to the States on trail rides ..he's been on cattle drives in Montana, Arizona and Texas where the style of riding is a lot different to what he learned here.....over there he tells us it's neck reining not like the English style...he sent me an email link to a couple of sporting stores which have everything for the outdoors even golf...but the weapons are frightening ..I'm glad they're not so readily available here with some of the head cases we read about. Giddyup Golf. :beer:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Jul-31, 08:40 PM
Beautiful day on the golf course today couldn't wish for better conditions...sadly the form displayed yesterday wasn't evident today......the result saw me win only 5 single skins while my two opponents had better luck winning 7 and 6 which included two accumulators...so three units down. :(

One of the group wore a wide belt with a big buckle like the cowboys wear...Gazza the outdoors guy who goes trail ridin' and cattle drives  in the USA asked if we knew why cowboys wear belts with a big buckle ...the answer isn't to keep their pants up...it's when they see a rattlesnake they pull out their belt and hit the rattler with the buckle breaking its back. Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Aug-09, 07:16 PM
A newcomer to our regular Saturday group plays off scratch and I marked his card ...very unusual to see a scratch marker's card all zeros where the rest of us get one or maybe two strokes on every hole...he had a good round 37 stableford points but not good enough to win the A grade finished third to the winner and runner up on 38 points giving them 7 and 8 shots respectively...it's a rare opportunity to play with a scratch marker.....especially one who while clearly superior is very accepting and tolerant of the mistakes the rest of us hackers made....a very pleasant fellow a most enjoyable day with only a few spots of rain. :beer:

My golf improved after the first nine where I had a miserable 10 points after 4 washes but 22 points on the back nine made a more respectable total. Giddyup. :thumbsup:
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Post by: vadim on 2014-Aug-09, 08:15 PM
I play off a North Queenslander .  :biggrin:
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Post by: chuggers on 2014-Aug-09, 08:42 PM
A newcomer to our regular Saturday group plays off scratch and I marked his card ...very unusual to see a scratch marker's card all zeros where the rest of us get one or maybe two strokes on every hole...he had a good round 37 stableford points but not good enough to win the A grade finished third to the winner and runner up on 38 points giving them 7 and 8 shots respectively...it's a rare opportunity to play with a scratch marker.....especially one who while clearly superior is very accepting and tolerant of the mistakes the rest of us hackers made....a very pleasant fellow a most enjoyable day with only a few spots of rain.


That means you would enjoy me one day at your Golf Course.....  :lol:

 :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Aug-10, 10:41 AM
All good fun....on the 18th hole a par5 he was adjacent to the green for two...chip hit the flag but didn't go in for a Eagle had to settle for a birdie.  :thumbsup:

Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Aug-12, 07:25 PM
One of my golfing mates Stoney  "Ya can't get blood out of a stone" went through a complete club fitting program recently at Golf Central a terrific complex opposite the DFO in what they call Skygate which is close to the Airport ....he spent a couple of hours being fitted in the Taylor Made Lab and  decided to buy a set of TM Speedblade irons with senior shafts and SLDR woods and a TM Ghost Spider putter 38" long...took him a while to get used to the new clubs apart from the putter he was deadly with it right from the start...he's always had a very good short game and was a single figure marker in his younger days....he's the same age as me only a few months difference .....so I decided I would try this new design putter there are two sizes 38" and 35" both have a 15" grip which allows the player to grip down to find the most comfortable putting position so I went ahead and ordered one the 72 model which is face balanced there's another model 32 with the same head which isn't face balanced and is designed for those who have a slight arc in the putting stroke.
I was present when the Pro rang TM HQ in Melbourne spelling out the order that was Tuesday last week.....he rang me yesterday to tell me the club has arrived..I go out to the club check out the putter and guess what they've sent the wrong one ..the 32 model instead of the 72 one we ordered...so the Pro rings Melbourne again who is getting exasperated by this confirms the order and it's now a waiting game ......I asked when it might arrive Thursday he thought.....fingers crossed....we're playing at Gainsborough Greens next Monday with the Vets so hope I have it for that. :whistle: Giddyup.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Aug-22, 06:25 PM
Having taken delivery of my recent purchase the TM Ghost Spider1 putter I'm very pleased with it although I must admit it doesn't make up for lack of skill or deciding how hard to hit the ball or whether there are any breaks which affect the balls progress towards the target hole but it feels extremely comfortable possibly due to the fact that I think the 15" grip suits me better than the standard ones I 've had before and being face balanced means it's easier to line up when you have a straight back and follow through stroke. The weather today kept me indoors and the forecast for Saturday isn't encouraging but we desperately need the rain so something good is happening even if it means a day in front of the TV watching slugs plough through the heavy going. Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Aug-27, 07:06 PM
Graham McNeice well known for his appearance as the former host of Racing Retro has quite an extensive CV as a producer of racing stories and the long running series Remember When ....tomorrow he extends his menu to a more dramatic public affairs production on Fox 617  which screens  his first instalment of a two part series on the now defunct Westbrook Farm Home for Boys which has a controversial history. I had a bit to do with this institution while a union official and it was where I first met Supt Tony Murphy when in charge of the Toowoomba CIB investigating allegations against some members of staff the details of which escape me. Giddyup.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Aug-28, 07:57 PM
I intended giving the lawn a mow this morning even though the grass is short and brown due to the dry spell but the clover is thriving as are the bindis......as hard as I tried I couldn't get the Victa to start ...must have tried for 12 or more times before giving up and putting the mower away...then I remembered the Mower Mechanic I had used before but I couldn't find his number in my refidex..... so looked up mower repairs on the Net and there he was Mobile Mower Repairs 3341 4583...gave him a ring ...explained the mower wouldn't start and asked any chance he could check it out ...where do you live he asked ...that's not far give me a few minutes and I'll be there..10 or 15 minutes later he arrived in a beat up old van ..no shoes ......took out his tools...made some adjustments ...pulled the starting cord and the mower burst into life ...how much do I owe you I asked ...$10 he said I didn't have far to come. :thumbsup:

So anyone in Brisbane having motor mower trouble he comes to you ..no lifting into the boot and waiting two weeks for it to be fixed .....make a note of his number highly recommended. Giddyup. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Aug-29, 12:52 PM
The Westbrook episode last night was very depressing  focused on sadistic brutal behaviour by the then Superintendent Roy Golledge if portrayed accurately is condemned by all decent people....I never had any contact with Golledge ..he was before my time and I think he was removed after an inquiry by Alf Schwarten SM  and the centre's name was changed to better reflect its purpose...any time I visited I saw no evidence of violence......and the food was presentable ...no sign of maggots or weavils in the kitchen .......but I couldn't help noticing there were many young aboriginals ......not so in last night's episode .....and the most riciculous looking wig I've ever seen being worn by Judge George Dormer Andrews...surely Graham McNeice could have done better than that.....if this is the best he can do my advice is stick to producing racing docos based on real footage from the archives. Giddyup  I rate this episode as 2/10. :thumbsd:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-03, 05:38 PM
Driving home from golf today I turned the car radio on to 4TAB but not a sound was heard.....tried all the other pre set stations with the same result...once back home in the garage I tried again and everything was back to normal...AM ..FM ..disc player all in surround sound...I didn't do anything different apart from reading the trouble shooting guide which wasn't necessary as it turned out...very mysterious indeed. Giddyup. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-05, 06:43 PM
My family has always had the daily newspapers delivered ever since I could remember there was the CM in the morning and the Tele in the afternoon and the Sunday Mail and Truth on Sundays...these days the Tele and Truth are no more .....I get the CM and SM and 7 day digital access for $36 each 4 weeks ..... but for whatever reason News Corp took the distribution off the local newsagent a year or so ago and now they have a distribution company doing the deliveries...when they don't remember to toss a copy on my front lawn. When the newsagent missed delivering our CM which didn't happen often I would ring him and he would make a special trip to drop the paper off once his staff arrived to man his shop.

Today we missed out again so I rang the number on the CM website and heard an automated message that there is a 90minute delay due to production problems this was at 8am well after the usual delivery time...the person I spoke to was in Adelaide that's where the distribution is situated ..while very polite and understanding the woman I spoke to couldn't put me in touch with the delivery man she didn't know the name of the company or have any contact details or arrange for a replacement...all she could do was extend my subscription one day as compensation.
She did say that maybe the delay meant that the distribution company didn't have any drivers due to the production delay....well that seems very unlikely.

However my wife was able to go down the road to the local convenience store and buy the paper ...she asked the guy what time his papers arrived and she was told around 6am...one of my golfing partners lives in the next suburb to me and he received his CM delivered at the usual time...so it looks like whoever was doing the delivery here forgot to throw ours in ......I've asked the CM for an explanation but I'm only dealing with those on the bottom of the ladder ...those higher up the food chain are all unreachable . :thumbsd:
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Post by: westie on 2014-Sep-05, 07:08 PM
Arsenal
All you need to do is find out who the Circulation Manager of the CM, possibly Google it and give him a serve
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-06, 09:36 AM
Thanks westie I've tried everything else so no harm trying that .....but as things stand the execs responsible for certain operational matters are insulated by layers of subordinates whose job is to ensure those above them aren't disturbed by customer concerns or complaints legitimate or vexatious  ...not like the old days when in the public service for example heads of departments home numbers were in the telephone book...these days the flack catchers do the best they can in fending off complainants and the bosses don't become aware of problems....none of the CM people have said they pass the complaint on to their boss or supervisor.....customer service and satisfaction has been relegated to the bottom of the pile in many cases. :thumbsd:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-22, 07:15 AM
One of my grandsons leaves today for Portugal where he has a 9 months contract to coach Rugby with the premier club in Lisbon......he works as  a PE teacher at one of the local schools and has played and coached locally at Souths .... this is a wonderful opportunity too good to miss......his flight leaves this morning .... Brisbane to China with an 8 hour stopover......then to Amsterdam with another 7 hours delay until the final leg to Lisbon ...all up 38 hours.......wishing him a safe landing and good luck in Portugal. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-23, 06:55 PM
We had a game at Riverlakes yesty at Logandale on the way to Carbrook and  bounded by the Logan River.... plenty of water too hence the name .... it's a very nice course rated 116 compared to my own club which rates  129/130   Riverlakes is very well maintained and very picturesque..... lots of bird life geese ,ducks ,swans and the biggest flock of wrens I've ever seen in the one place.....a wide variety of trees and close by a housing complex with a security guard on duty.......there's a Tavern instead of a clubhouse  and it's an easy course to walk... I noticed a recent ad in the CM calling for expressions of interest to take it over as a going concern so unless there's a buyer the possibility of closure looks a possibility which would be a terrible shame.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-24, 09:26 AM
The AGM of my golf club is on Tuesday and the annual elections are in full swing and close on Monday with the election result declared at the AGM.

President, Treasurer and Captain are unopposed but there are 5 candidates for 4 Director positions two of whom are sitting members.....one other director and myself didn't renominate so there will be at least two new comers when the votes are counted.

 There's not a lot of interest from what I gather no intrigue or bad mouthing anyone .....and it'll be a surprise if the number of ballots returned are any more than 25% of the eligible voters.....only full members are entitled to a vote although the Board has a Notice of Motion going to the AGM to extend the vote to 5 and 6 day members as well as Associates....it needs a 75% vote to pass. Giddy Up. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-24, 10:07 PM
This week at Pacific the young aspiring golfers compete in the Gary Player Classic so some of us get a game at Surfers Paradise which is a very nice course with very welcoming members. Today it was a 4BBB and my partner and I were holding our own until the last hole where we went down to our opponents..one of whom is a horse trainer's brother......I remember that term being used after the names of various knockabouts were arrested at an illegal game during a winter carnival many years ago and their fictitious names  and occupations appeared in the CM forfeiting bail ...one gave his occupation as horse trainer's brother. Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-28, 10:23 AM
There was a most unusual coincidence yesty in the club competition at Pacific ...on the Par3 13th the easiest hole on the course rated 18 there were two holes in one....one a morning player and the other scored in the afternoon ...they shared the Pro pin which is an extra $1 optional to the normal competition fee...not everyone goes in but it would probably be worth over $200 which they'll share with a voucher on the Pro shop .....I've won it a few times although not recently ...once on a Friday when it was the second shot on the Par4 12th I won $32........but a few years later on a Saturday it was worth close to $300...which I used to buy more golf gear  I thought I needed at the time but could have got along just as well without it...really it's an achievement thing which some golfers never get to experience......on Wednesday at Surfers I met a guy who has had 18 HIO's. That would take some beating :beer: Giddy Up
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Sep-29, 11:08 PM
Tonight was my last board meeting and after the AGM tomorrow night the burden will be lifted...... I'm very relieved  to hand the portfolio to someone else...... i've done my share......voting for the Directors closed today at 12.30 and the votes are to be counted tomorrow with the result announced at the AGM...this time the Board has decided that the members will be given the actual number of votes each candidate received ...in the past the board hasn't published these figures simply announcing the names of the successful candidates......now we are doing it the way it should be done. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Oct-01, 08:47 AM
The AGM went off last night..... smoothly I suppose is the best way to describe it ....nothing controversial was raised....although one of the sitting directors lost his seat only by one vote ...and he had been elected by the board as the vice president for last term......he contributed significantly in the course management in conjunction with our very experienced golf course manager.....the golf course is our finest asset...and is in magnificent condition....the ballot  system lists the candidates alphabetically and his name being the last on the list of 5 possibly cost him his seat due to my theory there's always a donkey vote.
180 ballots were received 7 of which were informal the number of votes announced were from top to bottom 158,152,131,130,129....so we have three new faces to help steer the ship though until the next AGM. Good fortune to the team keep a steady hand on the tiller. :beer:

The board's motion to extend voting rights to 5 and 6 day members and the ladies was very well supported but not sufficiently well to reach the mandatory 75% which is the figure required in the Associations Incorporations Act when constitution changes are proposed....the vote was 32/18 from the 50 in attendance. So while not unexpected it was a disappointment to go so close especially when only one member spoke against the motion.

Giddy Up. :bye:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Oct-02, 08:03 PM
I had the benefit of a massive form reversal today at golf ...have hardly ever hit the ball as well and putted like a Pro...last time in our skins comp I didn't win even one hole ...but today I won 11 while my opponents won 4 and 2 leaving me the big winner with 16 units. :beer: Giddy Up
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Post by: ratsack on 2014-Oct-02, 08:05 PM
I had the benefit of a massive form reversal today at golf ...have hardly ever hit the ball as well and putted like a Pro...last time in our skins comp I didn't win even one hole ...but today I won 11 while my opponents won 4 and 2 leaving me the big winner with 16 units. :beer: Giddy Up

well done      :clap2:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Oct-03, 10:38 PM
Thanks mate .....but I spoke too soon ..had a shocker today didn't win a hole...despite having several good chances...even had a case of the shanks..the most confidence destroying shot in golf.  :shy:

Something I've never seen before ...found a size 10  shoe  laying on the 17th fairway...that's a first that'll take some beating ..handed it to the marshall to hand in ...if I remember I'll enquire who anyone claimed it. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Oct-05, 05:29 PM
One of our regular four had a day off yesterday and  a very nice young guy who I had never met before played in his place ...he said he usually plays in the morning time slots ....nothing remarkable about that ...although he has an unusual name Lamuri ..."call me Ray" he said and off we went. He pulled out a persimmon driver with a steel shaft a RAM 1 ....no loft indicated on the very small compact head..... but when he hit the ball it was a sight to behold amazing height, sound and distance mostly straight but like all mid handicappers an occasional wide one to another fairway...on the last hole I had a hit and was surprised how good it felt ....I haven't had a persimmon driver for donkey's years and the only place you'll be likely to find one is at some garage sale or at cash converters...maybe EBay. Giddy Up.  :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Oct-16, 08:10 PM
It's snake season at the golf club and lately we have seen a couple of red bellied black snakes in the open on Saturday one scurried across the sand bunker on the 5th hole going towards Pine Mountain Rd while the other was in long grass on the bank of Bulimba Creek between the first and 18th ...today as we were playing the 18th where one of the snakes was last seen there was an elderly member in the creek scrounging for golf balls ...he was warned but kept looking in the grass covered banks. Crazy to take such a risk.
A few months ago an elderly man 80 odd fell off the bridge into the creek while walking his dog  early one evening he laid there all night suffered a broken leg and his missus didn't raise the alarm when he didn't come home.....the ground staff found him when they started work the next day and called the ambulance...the dog stayed with him ...not like Lassie running home to warn the family her master was in trouble. Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Oct-27, 08:10 PM
Our annual Trainee ProAm today turned out to be a minor disaster with a full field and a shotgun start at 12.15 with late storms predicted I wasn't surprised when the storm siren blew calling the players back to the clubhouse .... my group had 4 holes to play.....due to us being second group off the 5th tee behind the slowest team  you could imagine ..it took 90 minutes to play the first 4 holes they were so dreadfully slow.......back to the clubhouse where we sat around  for 20 or 30 minutes with no sign of rain ...until the PGA guy took to the mike to advise it was OK to return to the course ...that was all it needed to bucket down heavy rain and some hail and it was getting dark so the restart was postponed once again....the next advice was to redeem our food platter vouchers so that was a sensible move...although the deep fried finger food was less than spectacular...then after another 15 or 20 minutes it was announced it was safe to return ...most of the members had enough me included ...so we headed off home leaving the trainees to finish.......on the way home I spotted another lightening flash so it is likely that another siren would have blown which would have made it almost impossible for those out there to finish ...if that's how it ended the trainees can expect a refund of their $33 entry fee ......the rest of us experience.....and lots of complaints from amateurs about the course set up being too difficult from the Black tees ..it would have been more enjoyable for amateurs to have hit off the white markers ...the ladies as usual hit off the Red tees. Not a good day. Giddy Up. >:( 
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Nov-07, 09:33 AM
After three days of pain free rest with my feet up and not venturing outside our house I mistakenly thought my indisposition possibly a heel spur had cured itself so off to golf on Wednesday with predictable results the soreness returned so I'll have to take it easy once again and hope it doesn't get any worse...I had this problem once before and it wore off eventually...that was after I bought orthotic inserts for my golf shoes.....plus a visit to the podiatrist who made up a set which I've had replaced due to changes in the foot in question ......yesterday worked in the yard trimming some shrubs which needed attention wearing a pair of joggers and no pain at all but golf probably puts a different pressure on so maybe I'll try putting some more cushioning material in my sock and see if that helps. Giddy Up.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Nov-09, 11:37 AM
The tragic ending for Admire Rikti and Araldo and  the devastation on the connections  is fortunately something most owners don't experience but I know what it's like .....although it was over 40 years ago with the first horse our syndicate won a race with  Ball Point a beautiful mare we raced on lease had an accident during track work when the gig wheel caught a rail post broke the trace and the steel shaft hit her hind leg causing an injury to her flexor tendon which although treated by the vet developed an infection and gangrene set in and there was no option but to put her down ...a task that the trainer had to do and he was devastated having to do the job himself .....and then explain to the owner who had lost a very valuable brood mare in these circumstances...fortunately for me I wasn't present to witness the final moments of this most beautiful animal.....but the memory of it still upsets me.

(http://s29.postimg.org/etd11lvs3/001_ball_point_resized.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/etd11lvs3/)
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Nov-12, 07:02 AM
Made an appointment to see a podiatrist yesty afternoon ...these guys are very busy many booked out.....but I managed to get a time  diagnosed heel spur evident and some exercises recommended morning and night with some new orthotics to be manufactured  cost $178 seems a lot but well worth it if they correct the problem and eliminate the pain.... good quick service pick them up Thursday...strange that I don't have any pain walking barefoot on tiled floors ...but golf with shoes and socks it's the opposite. Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Nov-13, 10:45 PM
One of our grandsons turned 18 today so we had dinner at one of the local pubs...after in the gaming room he turned $20 into $22 while a few groups away one lady punched in the right combos and came up a winner $8990...she looked like she could use the dough too. Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Nov-27, 08:47 PM
Phil's story on the Schumacher story and the tricks jockeys pulled on the opposition reminded me of something similar which involved a horse I raced many years ago it was the first race of the night at the old Southport trots and we were lucky to make it to the track as some lunatic nearly wiped us out speeding through an intersection. The horse involved was Aggressive, Jim was his stable name, and he was as tough as old boots. This night he raced in the death seat over 2400m and looked like being collared in the straight when the favourite Strangers Glory ranged up alongside but my driver Arthur Sugden wasn't going to give in easily even though our horse wasn't fancied and started at 33/1 .I had a token bet $5 Ew I think .Arthur put his wheel in front of the favourite saying after the race that wherever SG was going he was going ahead of him so he won the race and there wasn't any protest . The other driver was too busy flogging his horse with the whip to notice..by the same token horses often lock wheels in trotting whether by accident or design. The photo from the GC Bulletin is somewhere which I'll try to find and post if I can . Giddy Up. :beer:

(http://s18.postimg.org/8ykflx091/Aggressive_Gold_Coast_001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8ykflx091/)
 That's the best I can do Aggressive is on the inside mostly obscured by 5 Strangers Glory the next one Texas Guy was third this was way back in 1976
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-01, 06:16 AM
Thursdays storm which missed Pacific GC but hit Indooroopilly GC has resulted in quick thinking by the BDVGA Captain to transfer todays game from Indroo to Pacific which is good news for vets although there's a limited field quite a few less spots than the 140 or so which is the average turn out.  :thumbsup:

And while Sunday is usually a day of rest after watching the golf on TV and the presentation to Jordan Speith whose magnificent low 63 appears strangely ironic .....I got out the whipper snipper and the Victa and gave the lawn or what's left of it a short back and sides ...so I'm free for the rest of the week. Giddy Up. :beer:

The weather bureau is predicting more storms later in the week......hopefully without the damaging wind and gigantic hail.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-01, 07:25 PM
The fuss about Asians getting under the guvment's guard buying real estate in OZ has been  in the news recently  and something which  I heard about today .......one of the ladies at the golf club put her house on the market recently expecting to get on the auctioneer's valuation $1.3M ....it fetched $2.68M ...the buyer a Chinese out bidding a developer......while I haven't seen the property I know the locality.....it's in a good street in a good suburb on a large block with a swimming pool and tennis court...but more than twice the price the owner expected shows how things have got out of hand.  :o Giddy up.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-03, 08:10 AM
Tonight our Wednesday Club has its annual Christmas Party at the golf club ......the club very thoughtfully provides a courtesy bus service for those who intend to imbibe more freely than the law permits drivers to do ...or whose wives are not prepared to sit up waiting for the call from hubby that he's had enough and he's ready to be picked up and put to bed...... not being a heavy drinker I think I'll be safe to drive myself...the main attraction apart from sitting with agreeable companions is the variety and quality of the sea food.... prawns and oysters as many as you can eat amongst other  things .....and there are some champions with a knife and fork who return to the buffet several times getting more than their moneys worth......there is entertainment I don't know what they have arranged as the bawdy jokes we've all heard before and the band and vocalists if that's what's in store need to be tolerant of the patrons not stopping talking to listen while they perform and the topless waitresses hopefully are a thing of the past.
 
When I joined the WC many years ago and attended their first Christmas function I expected it would only be for an hour or so with a few drinks and nibbles so I told my wife I would be home for dinner not being aware it was a sit down meal ......so I left without eating and driving home there on the side of the road were the boys in blue with their breathalysers at the ready although it would be three or more hours before the patrons would emerge from the party....naturally I rang the club and alerted them to the possible problem of DD no doubt saving some from falling foul of the law. :beer:
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Post by: monologue on 2014-Dec-03, 09:09 AM
 :what:
dd causing problems at the golf club...what next?
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-04, 07:46 PM
No problem with DD Mono...not for me at any rate. :thumbsup:

The party went off pretty well I think .......plenty of fresh seafood  salads and other meats ...beer and wine all inclusive .....on arrival I was tasked with advising guests of their allocated tables ...sort of a down market Maitre'D.
 
There were 16 tables of 10 or 11 persons although there were a few no shows due to unforeseen circumstances.

The new President welcomed the guests and the presentation of trophies was the first item and then there was an orderly exit two tables at a time to the buffet on the club's balcony...one at each end ...once everyone had been served ...seconds and thirds were invited.

One bloke looked a bit annoyed I noticed he had a plate in each hand and I imagine his annoyance was due that as both hands were full he was forced to  wait for someone to open the door so he could return to his table and get stuck into the two mountains of food on his plates.

After the meal we had a comedian Fred who went over pretty well with the mostly male audience..... the sole female was a sponsor...I thought Fred went on for far too long but it was noticeable that whilst he was telling jokes the guests were listening and laughing rather than drinking which was the club's intention in line with responsible use of alcohol...Fred was a minor hit but I doubt his brand of humour would go down with the ladies at their annual Christmas party. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-06, 10:54 PM
Due to the wet forecast which as it turned out was way off mark I cancelled golf and spent the day watching golf on Fox in between the races and dropping off to sleep.
Had a few bets a couple of winners and what I thought was a 4 horse all up place fixed odds ...all of which ran the drum ...but the betting agency reckons I made a mistake in putting one on as a best fluc ...WTF how could I do that when I'm sure I ticked place fixed odds ...anyway they are going to look into it check the IT from my end the key strokes all I know is that the odds were $19 odd which couldn't be if there was an unknown best fluc as they claim....I didn't make a copy of the bet and clicking on the transactions for the day shows all the details except for this all up ...all that's visible there is the stake and lose against it....and I never ask for best fluc or mix place and win bets in an all up......technology should sort this out quickly you would think ...but 4 to 6 weeks so I was told ...what a lot of rot. >:(
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-09, 08:57 AM
Many years ago at Rocklea I had a dispute with a bookie when I handed the clerk $200 for an Each way bet as part of a stable commission ..it was my own money but the place bet was mine the win bet for the connections the clerk called the bet Ginger something was its name but the bookie seeing the price going off pulled out the betting sheets claiming his prices weren't set despite it being well past the 20 minutes before the race when bookies were obliged to bet...I complained to the betting steward and he reported to the Chief steward before the race was run ...the horse won and the inquiry was adjourned after the last race to AP that night...we all appeared the bookie and his clerk and my witness who had seen the incident ..to his credit the bookies clerk gave truthful evidence that he had taken my money and called the bet..he couldn't have done that if the sheets weren't set..the stewards ruled in my favour...but advised the bookie he had right of appeal to the then HRB......at that hearing I raised a preliminary objection that no right of appeal existed as there was no penalty imposed..all the stewards decision meant was the bookie had to pay the bet.....anyway the HRB upheld the appeal but neglected to give reasons..which they were obliged to do ...rather than take the matter to the courts I complained to the Ombudsman who after a long delay finally forced the HRB to give their reasons..which was simply that there was no contract...which is a load of rubbish the guy on the HRB at the time was a dolt.

That's a long story so getting to the point my preliminary objection should have been upheld as appeals only lie in cases of penalty being imposed.

Checking the current Racing Act it is clear that decisions on betting disputes today are not subject to appeal. :o


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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-14, 09:31 AM
On my way to golf yesterday cruising down Newnham Rd Mt Gravatt up to the junction with Broadwater Rd the road was surrounded on both sides at strategic distances by election signs for ALP candidate Adam Obeid.....an unfortunate name but he was born with it......with party supporters in red shirts manning or womaning each one waving enthusiastically at passing motorists...no sign of the LNP candidate....didn't stop to chat or see anyone else either.....just getting his name out there I suppose. Giddy Up. :rolleyes:

Golf was good the weather was perfect ..no rain and pleasantly cool a respite from the hot and steamy days earlier in the week...and buggys weren't restricted to the paths...sensibly it was the 90 degree rule......stick to the path drive out to your ball hit it then back to the path...much better for those with injuries like my good self with a heel spur not having to walk too much......ordinary first nine....and  only 29 points for the day despite 5 pars and one birdie...it was the shot of the day ..on the 6th hit a good drive 150m out from the green ..hit a 7 wood like a dart straight at the flag ..but it went on past  finished only 1 meter from the pond behind the green ..used my 52 gap wedge to hole out...first time birdie on that one. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-15, 07:45 AM
When the TAB came to Queensland it was 1962 or thereabouts I was working in the MRD in Albert Street on the Turbot Street corner opposite the Roma Street Police station in the Correspondence Section ...writing letters all day long ...and sending Pink Slips to those who were in arrears paying their rego... the  Brisbane Markets were just down the road..... the Dental Hospital was opposite the MRD and is the only structure still standing as it was then ..the MRD was demolished and SGIO now Suncorp occupies the site...the first TAB was in Elizabeth Street in the Irish Club building in those days people were much more conservative and the conservative government was in office and had been since the ALP split in 1957 so when the Treasurer got the green light from Cabinet to introduce the TAB there were lots of restrictions ...limited opening hours ...bets 40 minutes before each race .. hand written tickets....daily doubles...no trebles yet ..or quadrellas ...I think quinellas also came later ...no in house TV's ...no loitering ..put your bet on and piss off.....no same day settling ...no telephone betting ..and no TAB agency to be allowed close to hotels or schools.....within 500yards.......yet one of the first TAB agencies in the suburbs was in Melbourne Street South Brisbane right opposite the Melbourne Hotel ...and the TAB management salaries were linked to those under the Public Service Award State......when the Union won a pay rise in the Industrial Commission ...I was working for the Union then from January 1963...one of the TAB guys would ring me to get the new pay rates so the increases could be passed on to the TAB executives.......those were the days. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-17, 06:24 PM
Came away from golf today with a complimentary 2015 calendar from the pro shop which is part of the On Course Golf group...very good calendar it is too..each month there's a  full colour  action shot of tour players and the golf club company they represent.....Tiger...Rory...Sergio are all there Jason Day...and a very grotty looking Adam Baddeley  made the cut ......but no Adam Scott or Titleist...a very surprising omission. :whistle: 
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-22, 08:23 AM
Golf club fitting has been around for ages from when the club fitter would rely on eye and instinct to determine the clients specifications whether flat lie, standard or upright in the club heads and shaft  characteristics by observing the client hitting a variety of clubs and different shafts into a net and noting the different results .... using a hitting board to see where the club meets the ground to determine the lie angle ........  to the golf flight technology using TV monitors tracking the ball flight and club head speed and spin rates ......and the various OEM golf club manufacturers providing fitting carts with all interchangeable heads and shafts to suit all specifications a golfer might require .......to the most recent innovation......a golf swing analyser called a shaft optimizer  from Mizuno ......Mizuno is a premium Japanese brand with a variety of choices in club heads, shafts and grips to suit all golfers according to their abilities and preferences .......the golf swing optimizer attaches to the shaft and after three hits it recommends  the combinations the golfer will be best suited with.

On this video  Pacific Golf Club head professional Mark Victorsen goes  through the fitting process. Giddy Up  :thumbsup:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEK_xTakuf8
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-24, 05:17 PM
On the way to golf this morning there was a sickening sight ...opposite Mt Gravatt East State School on Newnham Rd just up from Wecker Rd...there was a young man lying prostrate on the footpath with a couple of women watching over him and holding an umbrella to keep him in the shade...there were two fire brigades and one police car there but no sign of an ambulance ... a motor bike was on the footpath but I didn't see any car that might have been in a collision with the motor bike....traffic moved off.....can hope he isn't as badly hurt as it looked from where I was sitting.

Another guy I know drives down Wecker Rd to get to golf and he saw three ambulances at the Wecker Rd oval opposite the college which is about 200m from the state school ...and a couple of mini motor bikes lying on their side apparently in an accident ...which might explain why there wasn't an ambulance attending the guy lying on the footpath...maybe one got the wrong message and went to the oval instead of opposite the school.

Hope all ends well for those involved. Giddy up.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2014-Dec-31, 09:20 AM
We farewelled Don Button yesterday.....he was an old mate from my working days in the union movement.....with my son my former secretary and our former Union President and his wife we were amongst the couple of hundred other family friends and acquaintances who turned up to remember a man who touched our lives in one way or another and who was universally liked and accepted in  the many circles in which he moved ..for what he was an honourable and thoroughly decent man.
He died after a long and painful illness a couple of weeks ago and was privately cremated.

Yesterday we remembered him at a Memorial service at St Agatha's Catholic Church and later at Gallopers Social Club. Norton and dubbles were there with their wives and they were much closer to him in recent years than I was ...... in  retirement you tend to lose contact with many of those you were closely associated with during your working life.

 It was fortunate that thanks to an alert from Norton that I contacted Don several weeks before he passed away we had a long conversation and although he told me he was dying I didn't expect it to be so soon....I intended to keep in touch.

Don was a public servant worked in the Housing Commission and I think he might have been the first person to be awarded the Public Service Medal in recognition of his work in the public housing industry. My association with him began more than 30 years ago when he was elected as an Executive member of my old Union. I was very fortunate that in my time as General Secretary I had good solid men and women like him who were committed to advancing the interests of the membership rather than seeking political advantage or higher office for themselves.

Don was always calm and a voice of reason ...we got on very well together and I never once saw him angry ...although I remember him telling me one day "You've never seen me angry.....I'm not always so well behaved."

One night the Executive was meeting to discuss the appointment of some new industrial staff...we had expanded our membership significantly and needed more staff to service them ..there were several well qualified candidates on the short list......some were union members employed in the public service and one other a candidate from outside with connections to a dubious pseudo political organisation on the fringe of union politics...as interviews were conducted the Executive was divided.....some were in favour of appointing those already members of the union ...others favoured the outsider  and I found out later this group had been gathering numbers in support of their candidate.....my position was always in favour of appointing those we knew ...I never ever considered selecting any rejects from other unions...Don's vote was crucial ......I could tell he was struggling to decide ...stick with the lobbyists who favoured the outsider who had got in his ear......or go with the cleanskins ..those already members of the union ......he changed his vote and the outside candidate missed out....I found out later that one of the Vice Presidents got wind of what was happening and convinced Don to back away from appointing the outsider....the guys we appointed turned out trumps ..they have all advanced and prospered thanks to the training and experience they received while working for the Union.....all due to Don Button making the right decision.

Donald John Button PSM.
 
12May 1939- 16 December 2014

Life is a journey of sweetness and sorrow,
of  yesterday’s  memories  and hopes for tomorrow,
of pathways we choose and detours we face
with patience and humour, courage and grace,
Of joys that we’ve shared and of people we’ve met 
who have touched us in ways we will never forget.

RIP old friend.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-01, 09:40 AM
Tomorrow the 2nd January is a significant date in my life ..it was on this day in 1963 that I climbed the narrow stairs in 57 Elizabeth Street to the then dingy two room office of the QSSU to begin my career on the bottom rung of the ladder as a trade union official.....my title was Clerk Administration...my job was to manage the union office with the assistance of the female clerk-typistes......a whole lot of water has flowed under the bridge in the years between then and now and as I look back I wonder how quickly it seems that the time has passed.....in the twilight of my life  many of my former comrades are no longer with us ..and I'm lucky to have survived so long myself..so every day is a bonus.....Happy New Year.....let's hope we make it for another round or two. Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-01, 07:50 PM
Phil's ban by the ITC reminds me of the time I was banned from Brisbane Prison or Boggo Road as it was usually referred to. :o

In my job as Assistant Industrial Officer I was responsible for servicing prison officers and would often call in at Boggo Rd on the way home if there were matters to discuss with the section’s officials. When entering the prison all visitors must sign the visitors book and state their business. Stewie Kerr the Comptroller General always inspected  the visitors book when he visited,  he liked to know who was seeing who.  When he saw  the few entries with my name in the book he  blew up  proclaiming I was  there stirring up trouble.  ”He’s   ****** barred “he was reported to have said.

When Stewie  barred me from the jail  he issued a directive to that effect. I'm confident I am the only person in  history to have  had the dubious  distinction of being barred from entering Brisbane Prison.
 
The ban didn’t last very long; the union wasn’t going to take this laying down. I drafted a letter of protest for the General Secretary to sign and sent it off to Les Skinner, Under Secretary for Justice.
Les was a gentleman, held in the highest regard by everyone, and he  reversed  Stewie’s arbitrary decision....Stewie, although not overjoyed at this set back to his authority took it reasonably well....he didn't have a choice.
 
Stewie and I were never close but to his credit he was always accessible.  I spoke to him regularly and we managed to get along. He realised we had a job to do and whilst we stepped on his toes quite often we were doing our best to make the prisons better places to work, even though it was pushing uphill most of the time, as there were no votes in prisons.
Stewie  was an ex CIB man, he was a big bloke and was as hard as nails. He did have a softer side seldom seen where he went out of his way to help officers who experienced sickness or injury and were down on their luck, but it wasn’t widely known. He would put the boot into others if he felt they deserved it and there were a couple of officers  the union saved from  getting the boot.

It was a regular thing for the PO section to pass a vote of no confidence in Stewie and at the same time pass a vote of confidence in the Super of Brisbane prison Bob Smith who was a kindly man universally liked by his officers.

Maybe the Racing Media Association will have a similar result in reversing the ban on Phil. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-05, 09:41 PM
Torrential rain today which stopped my plans for a leisurely game of golf.....after a club fitting session scheduled for one hour but  because of the rain interrupting it took two hours...I started off with the Mizuno shaft optimizer which indicated a standard length and light flex .....all clubs hit showed up on the flight analyzer.... the pro recorded the technical details to determine the most suitable set for me ..I was mostly interested in the best feel .....I didn't like the feel of the two Mizuno models ...next Callaway Big Bertha which was OK ....very consistent dispersion with this...about the same distance that I get with my current clubs Nike...but a higher ball flight ....next Callaway Apex not for me ...although very nice looking heads and terrific UST recoil shaft .....on to Ping G30 didn't it any better than my own so passed on it....Wilson Staff OK but nothing special .....Titleist AP1 didn't perform for me .......Taylor Made Speed blade felt pretty good ...the new model RSI 1&2 not in the shop to test yet...... finally tried Cobra not the current model FlyZ which is coming ..but this superseded Cobra AMP felt the best...Pro rang the company to arrange for a couple of demo clubs...currently the new rep is updating his training in Melbourne and in a week or so should be back in town with some demos to try. Have to decide then whether to buy or stick with what I've got.......cost today a very reasonable $50 which is deducted from the price if I buy new clubs ...will only need 6 irons 5 to PW  as I have two hybrids and the usual fairway woods which I'm not replacing. Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-08, 05:47 PM
Mowed the lawn today but had trouble with the whipper snipper the cartridge which was brand new and hadn't been used before today flew out just after it had done a few edges.. painstakingly undid the tangles in the double lines and reinserted the cartridge...did a little bit more and it flew out again ...obviously something wrong  with the lines or my Ryobi .....the cartridge and lines came in a two pack but I didn't try the unused one as my experience with its mate was enough...after lunch I went down to Bunnings ......told the guy my problem and that I wanted to exchange the faulty cartridge for the type I had before ...unfortunately it's no longer available ......the reject I have is the current offering...this guy was very helpful showed me the range of equipment.. and produced an alternative to the nylon line thing which I never liked as the lines were always breaking.......this is an Ozito grass trimmer has two plastic blades which just clip on and costs $30..it can't be much good for that I thought.....has a 3 year guarantee Bunnings guy said... OK I'll take it...I'll give you a new one in a box ..I don't want to have to put it together ...No I'll do it for you  he said ......so that and a pack of replacement blades came to $39.90 minus $12.90 for the two cartridges I returned $27 out of pocket so small serving of baked beans for dinner...and when the rain stops I'll see if it works. Giddy Up. :thumbsup:

Thought of putting the Ryobi on the footpath if somebody might take it but the best place for it was in the bin. :thumbsd:

Good to shop at a place where the staff know what they're doing and nothing is too much trouble for them. ONYA Bunnings. :no1:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-09, 06:17 PM
It’s my aunty Elsie’s birthday today  she’s 99..... the only surviving member on my mother’s side of the family....apart from nieces and nephews. She is a Catholic nun in the Poor Clare Order living in retirement at Rooty Hill previously she was based in the Poor Clare convent in Carrington Rd Waverly not too far from where she grew up as a girl in Coogee St Randwick.

Elsie took the name of Sister Mary Carmel when she entered the convent now she’s known as Sister Mary Carmel Martin the family surname on mum’s side.

We tried several times to phone her today but the line was busy all the time so we’ve sent her a card instead hoping it finds her well. She has had some health issues in recent years but her mind is not affected and she never forgets my birthday and we  always receive a card from her at Christmas.

I hope she lasts another year but if not she has lived a good life and has outlived  her three sisters and younger brother by a many years..my mother died  in 1969 at the relatively young age of 54.

Happy Birthday Elsie although I would be surprised if she knows about this Forum .......but she did go to school with Darby Munro. Giddy Up :thumbsup:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-17, 09:50 AM
I've been clearing out my desk Thursday trying to find the CD that installs my old Bigpond Netgear modem that Telstra replaced due it not being able to connect to Austlii...the new modem they supplied stopped working on Thursday morning...only two or three months old..... I thought I could manage with the old one until the other one was fixed. I have contacted Telstra numerous times to try and get  the replacement working ...after waiting 30 minutes each time and being redirected and cut off I finally got someone who is trained in fixing these problems ...after doing everything he knew the Telstra guy was forced to give up...obviously found the modem was the trouble ...will order a new one he said ....express delivery.....to my surprise a knock on the door Friday around 8.45AM and here it is a brand new modem ..the same model as the one that carked it. :thumbsup:

Put in the new CD  connected the new modem but couldn't load my email.....rand Telstra 30 minutes holding before I got an operator only trained in ADSL not broadband...got through to another rep ....we got so far until an error message cropped up ...CCP0024....try again in the morning or ring 137663...Rang again finally got through but to billing ...put through to another guy ..didn't use the CD he had remote access.....still no go....finally got an activation team member...all these Telstra people are very patient and polite.....but trying to activate the new modem was the issue....it would stop at stage two the email page ..finally the Telstra lady found the problem ..the new modem Telstra sent hadn't been registered ..she said she would fix it...and ring back later. No phone call as promised but  a message on my mobile at 10.18AM that problem still being worked on...she was supposed to ring yesty arvo after 5PM ...came home from golf clicked emails ..had to put in the new password Telstra gave me and bingo ..alive to the sound of music. :beer:

Just a few minutes ago I got a call back from Telstra ..all good now.. but they need to improve waiting times.....and when sending out a new modem be sure to register it...Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-21, 07:47 AM
Tried a Cobra FlY Z demo 7iron Monday light graphite shaft only 60grms.....current clubs are 75grms and between the two mine feel better.....not much difference in distance or dispersion but the feel is what I'm looking for...at my age and ability I can't expect too much ..just be happy I can still play regularly and enjoy the game. :thumbsup:

I might try the older model AMC with a steel shaft 85grms to see if it's any better.

One thing I've never done before was to use a 7iron off the tee and all the way to the green on the 1st hole which is a Par5 517m from the white tees..... very difficult hole as second or third shot is over Bulimba Creek and  trees along both sides.....I rarely reach the green in regulation with a driver off the tee...but four 7irons got me there Monday and two putts for one over par and a three pointer to begin with.

I'll be interested to see if the same strategy works today under competition. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-22, 07:40 PM
The newly discovered 7 iron strategy didn't work as well as expected on Wednesday...rain earlier in the day reduced the run ...although the first two shots got me to the Creek the same as the first day .. third shot finished on the right hand side 150m from the Green and I didn't have a clear shot..so it took 5 to reach the Green ...and  I three putted...walked off with  8 only 1 point...next hole was worse in the Creek off the tee...hitting three up to the mounds on the right about 130m from the Green hooked it left into heavy rough grassy mounds 50m out ...saw it.... hit it..... and then discovered it was the wrong ball.....same TM  brand but no markings like I use ..wash.... the front 9 only 7 points 4 washes...improved on the back with 17 points but pretty poor performance...although not helped by bunkers under water and some out of play while those I got into still had water but not staked.......rain expected Friday and Saturday might keep me housebound. :tears:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jan-23, 09:00 PM

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Taken today at 3pm looking down the 18thy hole from the clubhouse....water ...water ...everywhere...and no golf. :(
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Feb-01, 05:55 PM
I had the best game for ages yesty 37 points...started  and finished with pars on both par 5's...a massive improvement on my recent efforts...barely breaking 30 and in the process finished in the top 8 in my division which means I'll be in the match play championships which start next Sunday.....two of the regular group pulled out and the GM filled in making up a three...our GM is a very personable guy and knows how to hit the ball ......off a handicap of 4 he played some terrific shots but wasn't always rewarded the way the ball bounced...a very enjoyable day.....backed a couple of winners for a modest profit...and was entertained by the ABC crew and their election coverage....a good day indeed. Giddy Up :beer:

One of our daughters worked in a polling station yesty...had a very long day started at 7am and had trouble balancing the count  with 9 papers outstanding...worked out even in the end......she arrived home at 10pm ........many years ago one of my uncles was returning officer for Stafford and he got me a job on the Saturday checking the roll......I worked with a man named Guy Short who was a DPI officer who came on ABC news once a week giving the fruit and veg market report......Guy  was a delight to spend the day with.....at the end we had some trouble balancing the count....he suggested the missing form was the one I had written our bets on ......just jokingly but it raised some eyebrows when the scrutineers overheard it...and for lunch he brought some breaded prawns ..which he shared ..I had never tasted one done that way before.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Feb-04, 10:20 PM

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This is Ray one of my golfing partners who hasn't been able to play golf for the past six months after he suffered an injury to his hand at work...the op was a success and he is undergoing therapy which hopefully will see him back on the tee in a few more months...today Ray came out and lasted 18 holes as my driver, caddy and coach and he enjoyed hisself so much he has invited hisself to do it all again on Friday...golf is a great game and you get to meet some great people Ray is one of them .Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Feb-08, 07:24 PM
Lined up today for the first round of the Match Play championships ...but no show by my opponent..no phone call or request to postpone the match to another day ....no apology either for leaving me in the lurch.....so it was a forfeit and without hitting a ball I've made it to the semi finals next Sunday...still had a hit with the group of three drawn ahead......and my old Wednesday club partner Bunny 84  former dog trainer and pugilist in his younger days won his match against a much younger guy probably half his age...3/2. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Feb-15, 08:54 PM
Another walkover today my opponent was unable to meet the commitment so Bunny my opponent in the final next Sunday also benefitted with a walkover...he and I had a practice round today ..only the two of us following a group of 4 so it was very slow...allowing Bunny to tell me part of his life story....while waiting for the green to clear.....very interesting character old Bunny .....never swears "bloomin" is the worst although once he forget hisself and said  "shit"...we played 12 holes and Bunny despite his age managed to finish one up so big improvement needed if I'm to turn the tables on the old guy. One thing is we'll both be tryin'. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Feb-19, 06:56 PM
The free local newspaper which arrived this week carried a front page story on the campaign by a local real estate agent to change the name of the suburb where we live from Eight Mile Plains to Wishart Outlook which is the name dreamed up by the developers. My wife and I like the name EMP ...we think it has some historical significance and an Australian flavour......unlike WO.....the reason given for the change is that tradesmen taxi drivers and visitors are supposedly confused with the location and are getting lost... where we live is on the other side of the highway to the rest of EMP.......the paper asked residents for views....so I emailed them that we don't favour the change...and that the confusion or getting lost argument can't be taken seriously as almost everyone has a GPS and those who don't can refer to any street directory to find out how to get to their destination.

I copied this to both the local council alderwoman and our local MP...Ian Walker who held on at the election against the tide ....he is a very decent guy....he rang this afternoon and he explained he had acted on a petition from residents and initially felt the Department wasn't too keen on doing anything...the former MP had also taken the matter up .....but without proper consultation...advising us after the event ..his representations failed and nothing has changed in the meantime.

Ian Walker informed me that if the petition passes the department's test, details of which I have yet to discover, public consultation will occur.....possibly at the most central location..... our local shopping complex about a 5 iron away from where we live......so while it's not a life shattering issue.....and whatever will be will be ....I wonder what motivates a real estate agent to campaign for this change......possibly she sees some commercial benefit......maybe thinks that WO sounds more upmarket than EMP...A Herron Todd White valuer is quoted in the story as opining that he didn't think the change would affect valuations.....one thing that won't alter is we have three caravan parks ..only one of which is anyway upmarket......but we've had no trouble at all and have lived here since 1994.....it's a nice quiet little area ......and it'll still be Eight Mile Plains when I give out our address....whatever the department decides. Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Feb-25, 07:01 AM
Fine weather today after an early shower over night and after no golf for the past week many of us are itching to get back on the track today even though latest reports from management indicate the course is slippery and muddy on the flats due to both Bulimba and Spring Creeks bursting their banks......but the higher ground should be OK only affected by run off. Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Mar-01, 07:32 PM
Just like High Noon Bunny and I faced off today in the final of the match play champs....after halving the first three holes I stuffed up big time on the fourth and from then on it was all uphill for me ...anything that could go wrong did go wrong.....while Bunny played his usual consistent game...and I had a massive off day..in the end it was an embarrassment to be beaten so soundly 7 up with 6 to go...Bunny is the champ. Giddy up  :no1:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Mar-06, 07:41 PM
Had a most entertaining afternoon today at golf...one of my regular partners ...couldn't play another is a Pommie so we were favoured with a newcomer another Pommie both of whom espoused the virtue of Faggotts......which it turns out are minced offal in onion gravy ..said to be delicious with mash and peas...available at the British Fish Shop down Birkdale.....maybe carried by some supermarkets...but awkward to look for them if you have to ask one of the shop assistants where do you keep the Faggotts.......

Dad's Army was a favourite TV series of ours ..but only Ian Lavender is still living......he played the young bank officer Pike in the series  under Captain Manwearing the manager and leader of the Warmington on sea home guard..played by Arthur lowe.....in one episode my Pommie mate reminded us when the Home Guard captured  some Germans ..one of whom asked Pike to tell him his name.....with which Captain Manwearing burst out.."Don't tell him Pike."    :lol:  
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Mar-21, 08:25 AM
Last week in a Four Ball my partner and I had 45 points...we  finished fifth ..very unlucky the winners had 46 ....it was a qualifying event for The Bill Kennedy Memorial Four Ball today....only 4 teams qualify...but the fourth team pulled out so by default we qualify and play off in the semi final today...over my long term of golf club membership this is only the fifth time I have made the qualifiers...and have never finished further back than second.....which in real terms is last in the Final..
Hoping for a turn around without any great expectations....my partner is on 36 and has never played match play before...so while we get lots of shots or start we're going to need it.

Giddy Up. :beer:

And for the first time ever I haven't had a bet....on a Saturday. :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Mar-21, 07:25 PM
Lucky to get to safety before the ferocious storm struck mid way through our game the lightning was frightening...the worst I've seen for ages...and the course was flooded completely unplayable .....at the time we were 1up after 8 and need to finish the semi prior to Saturday ...so it has been agreed to complete the round on Thursday afternoon shortly after 3PM.

Tonight I called into the Palmdale pharmacy opposite Garden City ...a security guard was standing outside ..spoke to her briefly ...she wasn't armed ..the pharmacist told me it's a precaution as they have been held up a couple of times ...I doubt an unarmed female would be a deterrent to an armed robber...he also mentioned there have been two rapes at the lane which runs behind the shopping centre......right close by Police HQ Mt Gravatt.

 
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Mar-27, 03:24 PM
As a result of The storm which hit the course on Wednesday night more damage was done and the course was closed and the Ladies comp cancelled on Thursday morning .....with fine weather it was reopened in the afternoon initially it was decided all players had to walk but later this was changed for buggies to be allowed but kept to the paths. This suited all of us involved in the match play and we kicked off on the 9th hole with a lead of one.......much to my surprise our opponents made more errors than me and my partner so we were 4 up with four to go...they won the next hole .......and I thought our wheels had fallen off...but we won the 16th hole with a par making us the winners 3/2......so now we play the final on Saturday......hope the weather stays fine and not too hot. Giddy Up. :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Mar-28, 08:03 PM
In front of a large crowd of supporters and boozers on the balcony my partner and I were successful in bringing home The Pacific Anniversary Cup today in perfect weather.... the match ending on the 15th hole we being 4up with 3 to play....neither of us had met or played with our opponents before today ...but they were very gracious in defeat and a pleasure to play with. :clap2:

Our team started badly losing the first hole drowning both our balls in Bulimba Creek...but we won the next two holes halved the next two won two more and lost both the 8th and 9th turning from three up to one up.

We were lucky to halve the 10th won the 11th lost the 12th and won the next three in a row ending the match.4/3

It's nice to finally win an Honour Board event our efforts will be up on the Honour Board for future generations to speculate about...how a pair of hackers won the Cup.

Giddy Up. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Apr-04, 08:07 PM
The course was open today...but very wet.....buggies on paths only ...walk to your ball and preferred lies......pools of stagnant water in low lying sections...bunkers damaged ...many under water..no chance of finding your ball in some of them......but a nice fine day and very pleased to be able to participate....not very encouraging though only 25 points but had excuses missed 5 or 6 putts narrowly......Monday looks like being fine so all going well will try to do better. Giddy up. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Apr-08, 07:40 PM
I was about to leave for golf this morning ...had just put my gear in the car and I noticed a group of evangelists walking past..that's good I thought they aren't going to bother me as they walked on past the next door neighbours...but there was a rear guard to catch the unwary...a man and his wife approached....I see you're in as hurry but do you have a minute...OK I said ..he introduced himself as John and spoke about discipline and family responsibility especially with children ..then he produced a couple of booklets.....Jehovah's Witnesses...ah I said my mate John is married to one of your group..but he's not a member ...but every year he doesn't vote in elections and when he receives a please explain he says Saturday is the Lord's day and I don't have time to vote...Yes said John we don't vote in elections we vote for God and await his coming.......had you voted you could have changed the government I said ..they were amused by this bit of dribble......John asked could he call back No I said I'm not eligible to be recruited..I'm already spoken for...with that they toddled off arm in arm in search of another convert. Giddy Up. :bop:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Apr-09, 07:33 PM
More drama than usual today my partner and I were finishing  golf when one of my mates Desmond playing the first called out "Have a look in the Creek"...at this point we were about 80m from the nearside bank..."what am I looking for I shouted back?" ..."my buggy is in it" replied Des ....and sure enough there it was down 6 or 7 metres in knee deep water......his EZGO ......my partner has a Toyota Ute with a Hoist......I'll see if he wants some help to get it out he said ...that's very kind of you Calvin said Des so back to the car park garaged the buggy unhooked the trailer and down to Bulimba Creek to rescue Desmond's buggy..it turned out he stopped on an incline and forgot to put the brake on so it went for a swim ...fortunately the creek wasn't deep here as sand washed down from the recent floods created a bank of sorts which stopped the buggy being washed away to Luggage point....Calvin started the engine fed out the line Des attached it to the buggy and it was soon back on the fairway none the worse for the experience. Des was lucky Calvin was around and was able to help having the necessary equipment . Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Apr-10, 09:03 AM
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 My mistake not being involved in rescue ops...Calvin has a winch not a hoist as shown in the picture above. Giddy Up. :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Apr-23, 10:45 AM
I hope des took a one-stroke penalty and called the following players through   :biggrin:

Can't imagine they'd find golf as exciting as the 'rescue' though, and maybe they were happy to wait while the local 'entertainment' played out   :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Apr-23, 07:30 PM
It was a social round Jim...Des's embarrassment was penalty enuff. Giddy up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-May-01, 09:47 AM
My daughter and I attended Gordon Francis’ funeral on Tuesday...as my wife wasn’t feeling well she couldn’t make it...it was a rationalist service held at Jenny and Gordon’s farm Paragon Park  Marburg with hundreds of relatives friends and locals in attendance . The service was conducted by Angus Lane a well known Show ring announcer who also presented the Eulogy covering Gordon’s productive life from Mildura where he was born to settling in Ipswich  at Barbed Wire Ranch later moving to Walloon and  off to Western Australia for 5 years or so training racehorses and finally back to Paragon Park where he had been private trainer to the late Jim Madden in the 80’s.
Jenny and he bought the property a few years ago and have restored it to the showplace it once was. Son Shane who is based at Caulfield in the racing industry also contributed to his father’s memory as did a number of others  including Kayleen Moore, Warren Cummins and Donna McKinnis( Jim Madden’s daughter) The funeral cortege was led  down the driveway by a pacer driven by Ricky Gordon in Gordon Francis’ colours Pink with Green Stars .

Gordon was laid to rest at Tallegalla cemetery and  later most gathered at the nearby Marburg Hotel where old acquaintances were renewed..it was a day of  exceptional  organisation and a credit to Jenny and Shane.
To complete the picture I have included Denis Smith’s tribute from the Harness thread.
“If we remember the 2014-15 racing year, it will probably be for the number of Queensland trotting folk who have passed away. This weeks sad message records the passing of Marburg resident, Gordon Francis. GF was born in Mildura, Victoria in February 1945 and travelled to the Sunshine State with Joe Stone  in the summer of 1967.
 After a turn at the Show racing, Francis took a job with ex-South Australian, Keith Addison, at "Addo's" Deception Bay stables. The pair hit it off immediately  and have been firm family friends since 1968. A casual relationship with all round horsewoman, Jenny Erskine while still in Mildura, became serious when they were re-acquainted here in Queensland, and Jenny and Gordon were married in 1971. Their family was two boys, Shane and Todd.

All this time, Gordon was pushing the pink jacket with green stars round with ordinary horses, but having to be on the ball and shrewd in the art of placing a horse where it could earn  was honing his training and driving skills. It was when GF took a position as trainer for Ipswich earthmover Jim Madden at Paragon Park, that things started to happen. The lanky Victorian and the plain speaking Madden hit it off from the start and GF and Jenny were in residence for six years.

 Little Bret was the only real top liner campaigned from Paragon Park but there were a fair number of pacers which won 15 or so races, including Wee Jock, Trustful Sam, Paragon Bret and the full brothers Our Houseman and Jacky Noboots. All did their bit to keep the pot boiling both in prize money and well executed betting ventures.

 All stories of a life have bookends and the book ends of Gordon Francis's  "hands on" involvement in trotting commenced with a winner both trained and driven, Ercil Gold at Ouyen (Vic) on June 16, 1967, and he bowed out from the sulky in 1999, his last winner being Run Dirt Cheap at Rocklea on March 20 of that year.
After purchasing a property adjacent to Bundamba track Mr and Mrs Francis dabbled in training gallopers. Not too long after they left for a caravan trip round Australia which turned out to be a three week rush to Port Hedland in WA. There were gallopers to be trained there and a lucrative cleaning contract to be obtained. It was the best time of their lives.

 2008 saw the couple back in Ipswich where they purchased the training complex which they had loved so much, Paragon Park. The last few years have been spent restoring the property to show place condition. Gordon will be buried from Paragon Park, after a rationalist service conducted by Angus Lane, the voice of a thousand shows. He will be buried in Tallegalla Cemetery, high on the hill overlooking his home.

 It is half a lifetime from trotting at Ipswich Showgrounds to now, but this writer remembers clearly that Gordon Francis and his horses were a force to be reckoned with, and his dry humour a source of mirth for many and mild embarrassment for a few. Death, it has been said, is a necessary end, and must come, but sometimes you wonder why.”

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-May-06, 06:25 PM
Due to flooding and severe water damage PGC has been closed since Friday and only reopened today for a limited 15 hole competition......as luck would have it I scored a HIO on the par 4 16th which was played today as a short par 3 approx. 95m ...I hit a PW on to the green it looked close and when we arrived it had dropped into the hole.....so high 5's all round......unfortunately I think it won't count as a normal HIO due to the conditions but it's still very satisfying ...... my previous lucky strike for a HIO was way back on 7th October 2009......score is three now and  going for four. Giddy Up. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-May-06, 06:28 PM
Congrats and WD Arsenal.

A HIO is a HIO regardless of the changed conditions - you still have to shoot for the pin - you can do no more than that.

  :noteworthy:   :thumbsup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-May-07, 07:10 AM
Congrats and WD Arsenal.

A HIO is a HIO regardless of the changed conditions - you still have to shoot for the pin - you can do no more than that.

   :noteworthy:    :thumbsup:

Thanks Jim :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-May-08, 06:14 PM
The Rocklea A&I Association's annual show was cancelled last Sunday due to the weather......the show society has been going since 1917....and this was to be its 93rd show.....Ron Wanless is the Patron...Rocklea was a happy hunting ground for him in the good old days as it as for his father Merv and brothers Keith and Leigh.... no doubt the committee will be pleased that the new ALP guvment is restoring Labor Day to the May day weekend which is when the Rocklea show is held ....until the holiday was changed to October by the previous guvment the show started on the Sunday and carried over to the Monday public holiday....when trotting was still going on Saturdays a team of cleaners would come in after the last race and prepare the covered betting ring for the show..... in those days show trotting was very popular..... horses and floats were accommodated over the road in the Rocklea school playing field .....racing was very keen keeping the patrons entertained...sadly there is no more trotting at Rocklea but show trotting has been given a second wind at other centres.....I remember an invitation  race one year when a well known trotting caller drove a horse called Revonah Peak he was a hard pulling big guy and I still see the look of terror on the amateur driver's face as he tried to hold him doing his preliminary  laying back in the sulky ashen faced ......fortunately he came to no harm and was very relieved when the race was over. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up. :beer:     
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-May-10, 01:08 AM
Funny story Arsenal   :lol:

S'pose they blamed the horse for the colic after that episode   :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-May-27, 07:27 AM
I'm putting my car in for the CV joints to be replaced this is after only 42000kms the car was built in May 2008 and was purchased in June 2008 almost 7 years old and is out of time for the 5 year warranty.I noticed a severe vibration when going faster than 60kph up to 80kph under load..at first I thought it must have been the two new tyres I fitted on the front....the car had a wheel alignment and tyres balanced when the tyres were fitted..I went back to the Bridgestone guys who checked and rechecked and only found a 5gm out of balance on one tyre..still the problem persisted  normal driving at 60 OK but getting to 80 the vibrations come in ..release the accelerator and the vibrations stop and they don't come in at 100kph either ..the tyre guys were puzzled...I suggested they change the tyres around put the original tyres now on the back on the front to see if they fix the vibration..that didn't work either still the same vibrations ..that cleared the tyres...the tyre guys who have been very decent suggested I have the car checked by Pedders which I did ..their report was everything was normal apart from the CV joints and possible wear on the engine mounts...the tyre guys on being shown Pedders'report recommended I let one of the local mechanics check it out ..he took it for a drive and agreed it was the CV joints ..quoted $554 to replace them...so it goes in on Friday and hopefully will be right after that.

The car is out of the manufacturer's warranty 5 years or 130000 whichever comes first but with only 42000 on the clock you wouldn't expect any major issues so I contacted the motor company to see if they were willing to help out....the answer was sorry ..thanks for your feedback but the issue is a serviceable one.....the RACQ told me of a case where QCAT determined a warranty issue in favour of the motorist where the car developed a problem at 80000 inside the 100000 warranty but some years outside the 3 year period of his warranty ...so I'll have a search to see if the case is on point....although I really don't want to have to take the company on at QCAT...but a precedent might convince the manufacturer to come to the party. :thumbsup:

It's not a big issue money wise but the implied warranty that they give for 130000 ought to cover one so much inside at 42000....that's what I contend.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-May-27, 08:46 AM

I'm putting my car in for the CV joints to be replaced this is after only 42000kms the car was built in May 2008 and was purchased in June 2008 almost 7 years old and is out of time for the 5 year warranty.

I let one of the local mechanics check it out ..he took it for a drive and agreed it was the CV joints ..quoted $554 to replace them...so it goes in on Friday and hopefully will be right after that.

The car is out of the manufacturer's warranty 5 years or 130000 whichever comes first but with only 42000 on the clock you wouldn't expect any major issues so I contacted the motor company to see if they were willing to help out....the answer was sorry ..thanks for your feedback but the issue is a serviceable one.....the RACQ told me of a case where QCAT determined a warranty issue in favour of the motorist where the car developed a problem at 80000 inside the 100000 warranty but some years outside the 3 year period of his warranty ...so I'll have a search to see if the case is on point....although I really don't want to have to take the company on at QCAT...but a precedent might convince the manufacturer to come to the party. :thumbsup:

It's not a big issue money wise but the implied warranty that they give for 130000 ought to cover one so much inside at 42000....that's what I contend.

Giddy Up :beer:

I'd fight as long as I had breath for the sheer joy of winning, Arsenal.

But don't engage legal assistance, or you'll stop breathing financially long before you get the car fixed!

I've taken a landlord to court, and been taken to court by one too.
I won hands down both times, because I had done the right thing and had moral right on my side.

When you go in to fight for l-e-g-a-l rights, the courts are bound to follow legal precedent, and the outcome is totally up to the gods.

Small claims courts love battlers like me who are doing the right thing, and I suspect you would find they'd like you too  :thumbsup:

Prepare your own case based on logic and facts, and have time-lines and service history etc available in an easy-to-read form for the mechanically-challenged magistrates.

If I were a lawyer (impossible, because I have certain moral and altruistic values) I'd be batting all day at the crease for the little guy.

I would put money on this, that you would win it.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-May-27, 06:58 PM
Well Jim I'm inclined to stick up for my rights the same as you.....I'm told QCAT is a self representation tribunal......so we won't be engaging legal counsel... normally there would be an attempt to mediate issues like mine...if I can find the precedent referred to by the RACQ.....I reckon the respondents would settle ....although I understand costs aren't usually awarded ...so I'll be up for the filing fee which I think is something like $160....win or lose ..if it comes to that. :bulb:
Thanks for your support. :thumbsup:
Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: chuggers on 2015-May-27, 07:10 PM
I'd fight as long as I had breath for the sheer joy of winning, Arsenal.

But don't engage legal assistance, or you'll stop breathing financially long before you get the car fixed!

I've taken a landlord to court, and been taken to court by one too.
I won hands down both times, because I had done the right thing and had moral right on my side.

When you go in to fight for l-e-g-a-l rights, the courts are bound to follow legal precedent, and the outcome is totally up to the gods.

Small claims courts love battlers like me who are doing the right thing, and I suspect you would find they'd like you too  :thumbsup:

Prepare your own case based on logic and facts, and have time-lines and service history etc available in an easy-to-read form for the mechanically-challenged magistrates.

If I were a lawyer (impossible, because I have certain moral and altruistic values) I'd be batting all day at the crease for the little guy.

I would put money on this, that you would win it.

Jims Punting,

That's one fella I would not take on if he thinks he is right...And I think Arsie would be the same..  :biggrin:

 :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-07, 11:26 AM
Big feature story about the chaos on the roads this weekend and a litany of what went wrong leading to the traffic jams commuters have to endure...on Friday I had an 8.30am appointment for my annual medical checkup......I left in plenty of time but the freeway to the City was jammed and I arrived 20 minutes late.I pity the workers who have to put up with this shambles every day ......on Friday most would be clocking on late....and Friday afternoon it was worse....I left the golf club around 4.15pm for what is at most a 10 minute journey home...due to the traffic jams on all alternate routes I didn't arrive home until just on 6pm.....the most frustrating journey I have ever experienced...and no improvement in sight. >:(


On the bright side I got a clean bill of health.....the good doctor said he told me last time he didn't want to see me for a year...and he observed I'm one day early today ......I told him that was to beat the price rise .... he increases his fees each year.....for this one he trousered $115 for which the Medicare rebate is $36.15....as you walk in there's another consulting room which features a full size skeleton....hopefully not one of his other patients. :sweat:

Giddy Up. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Jun-07, 01:33 PM
Big feature story about the chaos on the roads this weekend and a litany of what went wrong leading to the traffic jams commuters have to endure...on Friday I had an 8.30am appointment for my annual medical checkup......I left in plenty of time but the freeway to the City was jammed and I arrived 20 minutes late.I pity the workers who have to put up with this shambles every day ......on Friday most would be clocking on late....and Friday afternoon it was worse....I left the golf club around 4.15pm for what is at most a 10 minute journey home...due to the traffic jams on all alternate routes I didn't arrive home until just on 6pm.....the most frustrating journey I have ever experienced...and no improvement in sight. >:(
   :lol:    :lol:  Where I live we don't get those filthy traffic jams   :biggrin:
Thanks for reminding me of why I don't live in the metro.
We do have those cheeky motorcycle groups riding in packs up to 10 now ... and I see the colours are back!

They are unafraid of the cops or the courts, but the buggers better be frightened of me!
Fed up with having sleep broken by a dozen thundering motorcycles when trying to sleep off a night shift  :rant: :rant:
Should be decibel limits on motorcycle noise emission  :stop:
On the bright side I got a clean bill of health.....the good doctor said he told me last time he didn't want to see me for a year...and he observed I'm one day early today ......I told him that was to beat the price rise .... he increases his fees each year.....for this one he trousered $115 for which the Medicare rebate is $36.15....as you walk in there's another consulting room which features a full size skeleton....hopefully not one of his other patients. :sweat:
Giddy Up. :beer:
Our doctors up here charge $70+ If you like I can book an appointment with my GP for you for next year Arsenal   :biggrin:
You'll still be told the same thing, but will have $45 towards your annual golf-ball bill in the pocket   :lol:
Only time you need a good doctor is when you are unwell - the rest of the time it's just dropping in to renew acquaintances  :rolleyes:
They are generally not into giving advice on healthy living - ya gotta do that part yaself!

Sorry for the guy in the next room who couldn't pay his bill - left there hanging as an example to others who skip the bill no doubt   :biggrin:
Cheers mate - love your blog  :beer:





Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-12, 07:45 PM
Evidence at the TURC of employers paying union fees for their workers reminds me of a time back in the late 70's or maybe 80's when I was on the committee of the Metropolitan Harness racing Club Rocklea where apart from the Secretary and his assistant the club only employed casuals on race days..... mostly old age pensioners although there was one guy.... Norm Pringle was his name.... who had a fulltime job and was a member of the AWU....I don't remember what caused Norm to get a bee in his bonnet but the issue was that his fellow workers weren't in the Union and he threatened a strike if they didn't join ...the local organiser came at Norm's bidding but the casuals didn't see the benefit in joining the union so to settle the matter the committee agreed to pay the membership fees to the AWU  to avoid any possible disruption to our race days......that settled it and everybody was happy.....I don't think we paid after that first year...nobody bothered us and the AWU would have had more important issues to deal with than a handful of pensioners earning a little bit of pocket money on a Saturday afternoon.

Giddy Up. :beer: 
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Jun-12, 08:39 PM
Demarcation was a big thing in the 70's.
You didn't dare carry a wrench around with you in the sugar mill if you were the shift chemist.

The engineers would be out on strike in a flash if you were spotted tightening a leaking gland on a pump!

EDIT: I think in the end they allowed it, but only allowed wrenches that were about 8" long from memory.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-14, 07:32 PM
This afternoon I  listened to former Under Treasurer Sir Leo Hielscher being interviewed  reminiscing on his long career in the Qld Public Service.
Leo is now 88 or 89 and has retired from public life.
He always had a great SOH and in one overseas visit with Premier Sir Joh Bjelke -Petersen in the 80's  the group was being shown through a railway workshop in Romania where the workers were painting railway engines by hand with paint brushes and pots of red paint ..... a very advanced economy......the Romanians wanting to do a trade deal  but not having any money ...they offered to barter their products for Qld coal....which was a non starter with the astute Leo.

At this point in the interview Leo introduced an anecdote when he drew Joh’s attention to a sign in big red letters on the wall reading “Viva Ceausescu”and commented “You won’t see that at Evans Deakin”  :lol:

Giddy Up. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-18, 06:10 PM
No golf yesterday due to the weather but today back to perfect almost too good to be true so headed out with a couple of mates for a social round and very nearly bagged another hole in one....a 9 iron on the 13th a bit over 100m. :no1:

 
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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-25, 10:12 AM
A few weeks ago my wife's car caught a stray stone which left a small chip on the windscreen...not too big...I made a mental note to get it fixed ...but that's as far as I got...last week when my wife got in  the car she noticed the chip had spread to a crack...overnight.....so not possible to repair it...there are plenty of windscreen repairers on the internet ..so I got a few quotes and was surprised to find that for $236 the RACQ would come out next day remove the cracked windscreen and replace it with a new one....all very interesting to watch too..... in and out in less than one hour...allow another hour for the glue to stick and the car is as good as new.....a lot less trouble than I thought and no need to claim on insurance and pay a $600 excess charge.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Jun-25, 09:48 PM
Similar story Arsenal ...

3 years ago stone chip - called windscreen repairer. Guy turns up to fix it.
They usually fill/bond the crack with some kind of stuff that matches the refractive index of the glass ... or whatever ... creating an 'invisible' fix.

In my case they said the cracks - although looking threatening (3 mm star-shaped cracks) - were 'too small' to warrant fixing (normal fee $50).

I was given some transparent adhesive discs to place over the glass injury which they said would prevent the crack 'growing' ... it did.
Original disc is a bit tatty now, but still insitu ... and still no spreading crack.
Still have the remaining discs in the glove box.

Cost: free. I think the guy liked my wife   :biggrin:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-26, 07:51 AM
You did well Jim...around here the repair costs seem to be around $88.
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Post by: monologue on 2015-Jun-26, 08:16 AM
That's good to know Arsie.
I replaced a windscreen a few years ago using my insurance company but it cost me a lot more than your $236 you were charged by RACQ.

Just a question if you have window tinting on the windscreen is this also replaced?
My last car when we replaced the windscreen didn't have tinting.
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Post by: fours on 2015-Jun-26, 08:50 AM
Jim's Punting,

So you are saying the Union guys felt threatened by any guy with a tool > 8 inches long?

 :whistle:

Fours
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-26, 07:05 PM
That's good to know Arsie.
I replaced a windscreen a few years ago using my insurance company but it cost me a lot more than your $236 you were charged by RACQ.

Just a question if you have window tinting on the windscreen is this also replaced?
My last car when we replaced the windscreen didn't have tinting.

It was just a stock replacement...tinting is an optional extra I think.
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Post by: westie on 2015-Jun-26, 09:34 PM
Just a question if you have window tinting on the windscreen is this also replaced?
My last car when we replaced the windscreen didn't have tinting.
Mono
I had a tinted windscreen (Factory Fitted) on a Nissan and AMMI replaced it with like for like. If you have tinted windows elsewhere on the vehicle and is recorded on your policy, these to will be replaced. Mind you I've never had to replace other glass.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: monologue on 2015-Jun-26, 09:51 PM
Thanks westie.
Fingers crossed I don't have to replace another one any time soon.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jun-28, 06:51 PM
Felt like a spectator at the tennis this afternoon ....here I am at the local community meeting convened by the local neighbourhood watch at the local shops ......watched over by a blimp in the sky advertising Appliances Online...... to discuss a petition by a number of concerned residents ....about 370 are in favour.... to change the name of our locality from its current suburban name to the name given to the estate by the developers 30 or so years ago...chaired by a lady with a Scottish accent who opened the meeting in a very professional manner outlining the basis for the petition and inviting speakers to have their say...she had tight control of the mike and showed no tolerance to anyone who wanted to speak more than once ...... it got a little heated at times.....but it didn't require the lone police officer whose patrol car was discreetly parked in the top corner almost out of sight to intervene.....local LNP member Ian Walker spoke of his involvement in presenting the petition to parliament and outlined the provisions of the Place Names Act which guide the minister in making a decision on such applications...a very good speech he made too...the local councillor was also present ..her contribution was to allay rumours put about that there are plans to turn one of the three caravan parks into multi residential development ...no such application has been lodged with the BCC ...which has nothing to do with the proposed name change.....submissions to the Place Names Board close on 29th July and all residents have the opportunity of supporting or opposing the proposal.....lots of passionate opinions expressed from both sides...the pro group's reasons aren't convincing IMO and an area with only about 3000 residents doesn't justify creating a new suburb ......it would have been interesting if the meeting had asked for a show of hands to see where the majority lie.....but it didn't happen.

About a month ago I emailed the PNB office in Nambour of all places seeking a copy of the submission and other details in order to mount a case to retain the existing name but a cone of silence is the result...very poor lack of service. :thumbsd:

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jul-03, 09:07 AM
I caught a bus into town the other day and filed some papers at QCAT when I arrived on the 9th floor there were 4 ahead of me and a couple at the counter being attended to by the receptionist who appeared to be of Indian  descent ......I heard snatches of their conversation .....there's no privacy....the woman was complaining the receptionist didn't understand what it was she wanted ...and she couldn't understand her ....the receptionist remained calm and I heard her say she understood perfectly what the enquiring was saying......I asked the guy sitting next to me had he been waiting long ...long time he said...I could see the couple at the counter weren't going anywhere.....they had taken root as it were...so I  interjected..... could we get someone else out here...meaning another staffer to man one of the two vacant slots on the inquiry counter...this got a thumbs up from the woman having difficulty understanding the receptionist.....who misunderstood my meaning..it wasn't directed at the Indian lady...simply to get someone else to attend the counter...anyway it worked......the couple vacated their position and resumed their seat on the bench...while the Indian lady called for reinforcements and dealt with the remaining clients in a short space of time....when it was my turn I had no problem understanding her ...and she was very pleasant......another staff member attended to the couple with a problem.

I thought with a bit of luck I might bump into Tim but the closest I got was to the guy with an overloaded bakers tray loaded with pre ordered lunches for the 10th floor.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jul-11, 07:02 PM
QCAT has advised me that my claim has been set down for hearing on Friday 24th July in the afternoon and there may be other cases listed so it might not start on the time nominated ......when I filed the application I asked if it would be possible to have the hearing on a Tuesday or Thursday.....preferably in the morning....Yes the receptionist said I've made a note of that.......so I get a Friday afternoon......hope it's not like Mr A J H Morris QC found recently when he and his instructing solicitor for the defence and the prosecution turned up for a 9.30 hearing and with no sign of the judge Tony & his brief left the room ....after hearing the case wouldn't start until 10am.....and they returned at the appointed time......some words were exchanged before the judge who held the upper hand.....pressed the start button.

Giddy Up :beer: 
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jul-21, 05:58 PM
Checking out QCAT's list of Members and Adjudicators I found most appointments have expired some as far back as 2011 others in 2014 and the list was last updated in 2012.......hopefully there'll be someone in the Chair on Friday.......today when I asked the receptionist for information all she could tell me was there's a panel of JP's but the names didn't show up on her computer...she couldn't answer my question on the procedure and when I asked to speak to someone who could I found she didn't know either. :o
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jul-22, 08:08 PM
Miserable day at golf  I should have resisted the temptation and spent the day indoors...but enthusiasm and optimism that the Sun would break through were wide of the mark......prior to hitting off I had a chat on the range with a young guy about 19 or 20 whose whole life revolves around golf.....he practices as often as he can and up until recently had a golf lesson once a week...now he's saving to buy a car and has given up getting lessons...he works at two jobs ..minimum wage and aspires to eventually be good enough to turn pro...since starting golf his handicap has come down rapidly and he now plays off low single figure 3 or 4 at the moment ...he had a bit of bad luck recently last time he played he left his bag outside the clubhouse to have a bite to eat...it was only when he went to use his lob wedge a few days later he realised it had been stolen....no mistake he didn't leave it behind when he played last.....he's convinced some tea leaf saw his unattended bag liked the look of the wedge a Mizuno and took it...now he wants  to replace it....he likes 4 wedges but as I tried to tell him he can manage without it..use his next highest lofted club the sand wedge it'll do the job...before I left I had a few hits with another Ping G30 LSE driver with a beautiful looking chrome coloured shaft Tour 65...it went really well.....then I noticed the label identifying it was made in Bangladesh...wouldn't you think that Ping would steer clear of third world countries where children are exploited in sweat shops...so that's a turn off for me. :thumbsd:

Giddy Up. :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jul-24, 08:00 PM
I'm putting my car in for the CV joints to be replaced this is after only 42000kms the car was built in May 2008 and was purchased in June 2008 almost 7 years old and is out of time for the 5 year warranty.I noticed a severe vibration when going faster than 60kph up to 80kph under load..at first I thought it must have been the two new tyres I fitted on the front....the car had a wheel alignment and tyres balanced when the tyres were fitted..I went back to the Bridgestone guys who checked and rechecked and only found a 5gm out of balance on one tyre..still the problem persisted  normal driving at 60 OK but getting to 80 the vibrations come in ..release the accelerator and the vibrations stop and they don't come in at 100kph either ..the tyre guys were puzzled...I suggested they change the tyres around put the original tyres now on the back on the front to see if they fix the vibration..that didn't work either still the same vibrations ..that cleared the tyres...the tyre guys who have been very decent suggested I have the car checked by Pedders which I did ..their report was everything was normal apart from the CV joints and possible wear on the engine mounts...the tyre guys on being shown Pedders'report recommended I let one of the local mechanics check it out ..he took it for a drive and agreed it was the CV joints ..quoted $554 to replace them...so it goes in on Friday and hopefully will be right after that.

The car is out of the manufacturer's warranty 5 years or 130000 whichever comes first but with only 42000 on the clock you wouldn't expect any major issues so I contacted the motor company to see if they were willing to help out....the answer was sorry ..thanks for your feedback but the issue is a serviceable one.....the RACQ told me of a case where QCAT determined a warranty issue in favour of the motorist where the car developed a problem at 80000 inside the 100000 warranty but some years outside the 3 year period of his warranty ...so I'll have a search to see if the case is on point....although I really don't want to have to take the company on at QCAT...but a precedent might convince the manufacturer to come to the party. :thumbsup:

It's not a big issue money wise but the implied warranty that they give for 130000 ought to cover one so much inside at 42000....that's what I contend.

Giddy Up :beer:


Today I fronted the QCAT Tribunal Messrs Alan Greyder and Rob Martin QC , I had a win of sorts..... the Tribunal  accepted my evidence that the vibration was caused by the CV joints that I had done everything required  so in summing up the Tribunal found in my favour, on quantum they said they had determined an arbitrary amount that I should receive 50% of repair costs $546/2 and as the case was proved I am entitled to the filing fee so Suzuki was ordered to pay me $331.90 within 21 days.
No reasons given why only half......still better than coming home empty :whistle:

The hearing took about 90 minutes the tribunal gave him Mr Turner Suzuki service manager a bit of a heat and gave him the opportunity of putting an offer on the table ..it was so parsimonious that I didn’t even make a note of it ..later the tribunal gave him another chance to up the offer  which was to pay half of the cost of the replacement CV joints  about $90 which I rejected ..my claim was for $546 plus the cost of filing $58.90.

Once we completed our evidence ...having sworn on the bible to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth .....the Tribunal adjourned to consider their verdict .This took 5 or 10 minutes and we were then called back to the hearing to find out what they  decided.

The decision was that they accepted my evidence  that is clear the fault was in the CV joints  and that was their finding that I had done everything required by producing evidence of the fault .....the service records showed the car had been regularly serviced in accordance with the maintenance schedule and a finding was made in my favour.
On the question of quantum the Tribunal said it had decided to award an arbitrary amount of 50% of the repair costs $273 plus the filing fee of $58.90 and Suzuki was ordered to pay me the sum of $331.90 within 21 days.


My case was that although the car was out of warranty 5 years and 130000kms whichever comes first it was subject to an implied warranty under the TPA that it must be of merchantable quality and fit for purpose.

I produced  evidence from the RACQ to the effect that the CV joints should be expected to last for approx 150,000 kms. An inspection report from  Pedders which concluded  the CV joint was faulty. The garage which serviced the car confirmed it had been serviced regularly in accordance with the manufacturers schedule and  Suzuki had been unresponsive to my reasonable request to contribute to the cost of replacements.

Suzuki on the other hand did not dispute CV joints should last as long as the RACQ stated but contended the repairs could have been done at a much lower cost by replacing only any worn components and suggesting the repairer would have acted in his own interests by using reconditioned CV joints and holding on to the old ones to on sell...which I was able to refute.They never offered to inspect the car or suggest this when I approached them for assistance.
 
Anyone who thinks Arsenal hast lost it...should think again ....although  there’s that  nagging  thought in the back of my mind  that you can’t lose it if you’ve never had it . :whistle:

Giddy Up  :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Jul-26, 05:28 PM
Love it, mate.

Always enjoy hearing of a win in court!

Myself?

Won 2-from 2 ... similar approach.

Facts, facts, facts ... no emotional or subjective shite.
No name calling ... just the facts!

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jul-26, 08:08 PM
That's it Jim QCAT procedure is evidence based .......all very civil.....at one stage one of the panel referring to my low kms     put it to the respondent  .....was he saying I was at fault for not driving the car so much.   :lol:  

Had the Auto Co shown any interest in testing the car when they had the opportunity I wouldn't have taken the claim to QCAT...had they done so I would have paid their costs of repair which in all likelihood would have put me in the same or slightly worse position than we finished up at......the Auto Co could have done the job a lot cheaper than it has cost them now in time and money.....so I'm accepting of the decision even though how the tribunal arrived at the compensation was not made clear just an "arbitrary amount."

I'm better off now than I was last week..so that's something. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: westie on 2015-Jul-27, 08:48 PM
Arsenal
Will you still get them to service your car  :shutup:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Jul-28, 01:55 AM
Arsenal
Will you still get them to service your car  :shutup:
:whistle:    :lol:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Jul-28, 01:45 PM
My service guys are independent their evidence supported my case... very reasonable too.. and highly recommended. :thumbsup:

Today I received a notice of the decision from QCAT  ...it's not clear if the reasons for decision are to be published ...there's provision to request reasons ...need to fill in another form within 14 days ...I don't think I'll bother....RACQ might be interested seeing it's an out of warranty issue.....also there's a right of appeal ...on which you need to apply for leave ....I'm not and unless they're really pissed off I can't imagine Suzuki will either...or if they do it's bound to fail...the judge might even increase my award.   :lol:  

Within 21 days I expect to receive  $331.90....I'm waiting for the postie.

giddy up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-07, 09:03 PM
Every so often there's a demo day at the golf club usually the big name golf club brands set up with their complete stock of irons woods in every configuration.....some have a launch monitor if it's a fitting day otherwise just try what you like.......today was different it was a Golf Pride #1 grip in golf day..... offering a free Golf Pride grip........all you had to do to get a free grip fitted while you wait was to write your name and email on the list the grip guy worked very quickly only a few minutes for each club which he noted the one chosen against the player's details....fantastic range I chose  a New Decade cord Grey and Green with Gold Golf Pride name very Australian combination. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up   
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-07, 09:35 PM

... so ... more HIO's on the way now?   :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-08, 09:22 AM
... so ... more HIO's on the way now?    :biggrin:  

Possibly Jim but not a betting proposition....it's a combination of luck 60% and skill 40%. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-08, 09:34 AM
Optimist!   :biggrin:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-09, 05:53 PM
I ran third yesterday with 37 points on a count back .....15 only on the front but a very creditable 22 on the back sealed it...this was my first reasonable score for about a month....prior to that I had been close but got knocked out on a count back three weeks in a row....the worm has turned...hopefully consistency will continue.  :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-09, 06:20 PM
Good to see you enjoying the game mate  :thumbsup:

Shoulda taken a keener interest in golf myself, but was too busy with competitive basketball and tennis during younger years.

Doubt I could play a half a game of either today, but golf stays with you forever.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-10, 06:53 PM
Quite so Jim lots of older guys still manage to play the great game...... motorised carts help ......but Bunny a former greyhound trainer who is 89 still walks.

He uses an electric buggy which saves him pushing it and unlike most golfers he never swears "Bloomin" is his favourite if he plays a poor shot  although he did slip up once when I think  I heard him say. "Shit" :o

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-11, 08:02 PM
I don’t think I’ve  mentioned this before but the air travel issues for pollies reminds me of one of my most memorable lost causes in my Union days as Industrial advocate when the Union executive decided to file a claim in the Industrial Commission for a variation of the Public Service Award State for public servants to be entitled to fly first class when on guvment business.

This was many years ago......in the days before Business class and there was only FC and Economy.
My recollection is that  the  guvment of the day had issued a directive that in future all domestic  air travel for public servants was to be booked economy unless the travel  involved accompanying a Minister or extended over three hours or so.  It was introduced as an austerity measure by the guvment.

This upset the applecart especially from Crown Law where the Counsel  from the private bar briefed by the CL solicitors would sit in FC while the public servant from CL would be relegated to economy. Our only recourse was to seek an amendment to the Award.

Obviously a difficult case to prosecute ....the application was strongly opposed by the PSB ...and was heard  by a Full Bench of the IRC headed by Doug Birch a former magistrate.

Our case required some innovative argument .....the only leg I had to stand on was the Custom and Practice clause in the award.....which to this point was largely irrelevant....  I argued as strongly as possible  that  C&P favoured our case as FC travel had been the custom and practice until the directive was issued that it would be economy class from there on.

At the conclusion of submissions the decision was reserved and it was no surprise when the FB  handed down the decision which went against us ...the only consolation I took from this experience was it took the commission longer than usual to get around the lynch pin of our case ...and dismiss the application ....the details of their reasons  are long forgotten ...one day with nothing better to do I might try to access the archived cases to refresh my memory.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-12, 09:52 AM
Thanks for that Arsenal.

While I have never flown FC or BC, I have walked through there on my way to the cock-pit to spend nearly an hour with the Captain and Flight crew of a 747 en route to Singapore in 1990 @ around 0230hrs. Can't do that today.

But I had no idea of the space and class of seating available in those sections prior to that.

I can relate to the desire to separate oneself from the rabble at times.
But I can also relate to the reader, that some of the most memorable and interesting times I have spent travelling, were passed in Economy Class Air.

I sat beside some VIP's and learned some "inner-secrets" about the Woomera Rocket Range:

* How renters of the range - Russia - USA - GB - France  - Korea - Japan et al raise their finance from the middle east
* How these teams of techies work together on projects, despite the public rhetoric to the contrary
* How they spent evenings in the Eldo Hotel Bar, Woomera, and around a round of drinks or ten, solved each other's rocket-science problems

Indeed, the Eldo was where I frequently had my evening meals during August/Sept 2001.
I have never been much of a drinker, but I did have an odd drink there - who wouldn't!
And employees of the WIRPC (Google it) certainly had reason to drink!

As an ex-WIRPC employee (of Australian Correctional Management) in 2001, those weeks were altogether formative, depressing, illuminating and enlightening, concerning the refugee and detention issues we face - particularly from the arrivals who have no documentation.

And, I should mention, particularly since I witnessed first-hand, man's inhumanity to man (and women and children) ... thus the use of the word "depressing" above.

Just writing this brings the sad reality flooding back, and I will deal with this in my blog in due course.

Indeed, to do so will be necessarily therapeutic for me, since I can assure you, I am still not rid of that traumatic hell of an experience.

But I digress ... the return flight saw me seated next to a character who was the negotiator for finance in the middle east on behalf of the Russians and the Yanks, plus any others who wanted to afford his commission.

Had FC been available on the flying pencil, I'd never have gained those insights.

And it has made me grateful and contented to sit next to any stranger, at any time.
Even if they smell ... then there'd be a reason for that.

I'm sure even Bill Gates emits an odour at times   :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-12, 10:40 AM
You've met some interesting passengers Jim half your luck....You can be lucky in being seated whether at the front or near the back or unlucky as well.....once returning from Tasmania I was seated next to a young lady who confided she came down from Brisbane to the Wrest Point Casino each weekend....I assumed she was in the entertainment industry....not a gambler ....looked nothing like you imagine an escort to be either. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-12, 03:48 PM
What does an escort look like?

I can not imagine   :biggrin:

Just shows that you can't be certain who you're chatting with any more  :rolleyes:

(http://s28.postimg.org/ohy3tyec9/Escort.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ohy3tyec9/)
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Post by: dubbledee on 2015-Aug-12, 08:44 PM
Yep, in the late 70s, when I did some overseas travelling for QGovt, the rule-of-thumb was any flight over 4 hours had to be First Class.

I had a round-the-world FC ticket in 79. 

Ya meet some interesting people.  I slept with Jim Nabors between Sydney and Honolulu.  He invited me in for the weekend at the joint he shared with Rock Hudson.  But I had an appointment in LA in a couple of days.

Same trip I jumped on the Concord from NY to London - that was Supersonic Class and cost me an extra $90.   :lol:   :bulb:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-14, 06:00 PM
Our second grand-daughter Caity added a son to the family today  ..9lb1oz Edison James they've named him .......but Ned for short... a brother for Pippa both the same birth weight....and both are well. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:

(http://s14.postimg.org/aca0pyzrx/Baby_Ned.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/aca0pyzrx/)
 :clap2: Baby Ned
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-18, 08:17 AM
Yesterday was a new experience one that created some turmoil in the house....after a wonderful winter day hacking around the picturesque Ashgrove golf course with 89 other veteran golfers.....I arrive home to find the garage door wouldn't open ..I assumed the remote needed a new battery..but the security lights lit up..the lights inside all worked.....the TV was working ..but Foxtel wasn't ...the Microwave was on then off..the phone keep beeping..the computer was dead ..the coffee machine started then stopped ..the electric jug didn't work ..the TV stopped then started and stopped again ...I checked the fuse box everything looked normal all switches were in the on position ..the solar panel power light was on ...but the orange alarm light was on too ...but too complicated for me to understand...we waited for our neighbour an electrician to come home and asked him to check things out.....he discovered there was low voltage only 70 volts registered on his volt meter..instead of 240 which indicated the problem was in the power box on the footpath ...sure enough the wire was frayed and needed replacing..he fixed it temporarily so power was restored......but we needed to call Energex ...they arrived about 90 minutes later..one crew then another...they determined it was a job for the underground crew...who they called and they arrived after another 20 minutes ..the power had to be turned off while the underground guys opened the pit disarmed the power replaced the connections and installed some new fuses....then back to normal.....around 8.30 or so turns out the interruption to supply would have been around 12 noon when both my wife and I were out and the fridge lost some stuff but otherwise just a small inconvenience with candle power until Energex fixed it for us. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:  
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-18, 09:15 AM
Arsenal - what a lovely pic of your new great-grand-son.
You must be chuffed, if I can pinch a term from my pommie mates!

Takes me back a bit too, to when I worked with newborns (for 15 years it was my bread-and-butter).

There is nothing - NOTHING- sweeter in life than having the privilege of holding and gazing into the eyes and face of an innocent newborn child.

Hope Mum and baby are doing well.

Hope Dad is recovering from shock at what he's done!
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-18, 01:40 PM
Thanks Jim both doing well....they don't leave them in hospital too long these days she's home today. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-20, 08:15 AM
The golf club has messaged members with some new management speak the result is some positions are being absorbed and 4 permanent staff made redundant. :o


"Unfortunately with this type of re-structure there are some staff who's position will no longer be applicable.  The Club reached that stage today and the following positions have now been absorbed: Golf Operations Manager, Clubhouse Operations Manager, full-time Club Receptionist, Gardener Assistant and some other casual roles.
All staff who are leaving Pacific are being paid their full entitlements and given references and assistance, if needed, in order to find further employment."

On a brighter note I would have given the course record a shake yesty IF four or five makeable putts had dropped instead of skimming the hole...as it turned out my net 64 was the best score and I also picked up a nearest the pin shot on the 7th..it was one of those days you dream about...no lost balls no out of bounds ..no trouble getting out of bunkers....just a few missed putts.  :king:

Giddy Up :beer:

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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-20, 10:11 AM
Sometimes life's troubles come from the putts you sink  :bulb:

  :lol:   :lol:
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Post by: westie on 2015-Aug-20, 07:28 PM
..................................Ya meet some interesting people.  I slept with Jim Nabors between Sydney and Honolulu.............................
Just catching up with this interesting thread. Golly Gosh am not sure what to make of this statement   :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-27, 09:58 AM
Yesterday was the second and final round of the Wednesday Club Championships my old mate Bunny former pug and greyhound trainer and one of nature's gentlemen..he never swears...bloomin is his usual method of expressing frustration   and at 89 years of age still walks the course..... shot his age and ambled in with a net score of 65.....won hisself a pair of Niblick shoes in the process...alas he expended $178 a week or so ago on a pair of Footjoys so will be obliged to return the Niblicks for something of equivalent value. :clap2:

As for my good self the first round B grade leader with a close to the course record of 64 I managed to get around in 68 yesty with some tragic bad luck shooting a 6 on the easiest hole on the course a par 3 and for good measure having a double bogey on the 15th putting me 5 shots worse than I ought to have been...still while the results of the two rounds have yet to be compiled it looks like I'll hang on and need make space on the trophy case for whatever it is comes with winning.  :king:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-27, 02:44 PM
Fantastic stuff mate  :thumbsup:

Hope I can do as well with whatever my passion takes me to in retirement.

Still 40 years away for me   :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-27, 04:45 PM
Jim you won't do better than take up golf :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-27, 04:56 PM
Given that I was born in 1950, do you think there's time?

Just joshin' mate ... I used to play with the Bargara Golf Club Captain for a year or two in my final-teen years.
Picked up a few tips and I think I held a record for a drive on one of the fairways for awhile at least (unofficial, unconfirmed)   :biggrin:

Got my priorities in a knot and let it go  :sad:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-27, 04:58 PM
All my clubs came from op-shops - ya shoulda seen my golf buggy - more rusted than chromed, and the leather was rotted.
Beats me how it remained assembled for all those rounds  :nowink:
Still stands in the Club museum to this day, unless they dumped it a week after I left   :lol:

Laughs aside ... I can say that those times were wonderful opportunities to get to know people and make lasting friends   emthup
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-27, 05:01 PM
Oh - my "set" consisted of:

* 1 x #2 wood
* #3-5-7-9 irons
* 1 x bent (damaged) putter

The putter was ok if you knew its quirks  :/
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Aug-27, 05:47 PM
Jim a man of your high standing shouldn't be seen in op shops ...when there was a Cash Converters shop at Mt Gravatt occasionally I would  checkout the golf gear......most was so old and knocked about you wouldn't consider buying it and the prices were ridiculously high ....poor quality and no value..the shop has since closed.
One of the old guys I know in the veterans is always picking up clubs from the bargains bin at the courses he visits....these days you can buy a set of clubs quite cheaply for a starter set....it's only when you become addicted to the game that you fall for the hype that golf manufacturers use to convince us we need the latest new big thing.....although I'm very pleased with my latest Ping G30 driver $475 and worth every bit of it. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Aug-27, 05:54 PM
Arsenal - at your level of play, you'd notice the difference quality can make.

I'd do just as well with a broom handle with a 2 inch WhitWorth nut screwed on to the end of it  :beer:

My first set of clubs cost $9 ... "... and you can have the buggy!"

Seriously though, it'd be nice to have a decent set of clubs - maybe I'd have played a little less badly at times  :shrug:

You need to have a chat with Henry - he was a good golfer in his day, and I think he's doing a bit with the game again recently.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-04, 09:31 PM
I mowed the lawn today.....and had half finished the back yard when a swarm of bees appeared...dozens of them ....buzzing around over the back fence ..going up and down ....left and right putting on a spectacular show...at first I thought I must have disturbed a wasp's nest.....so I retreated inside and left the mowing to later..it was then that I got a closer look at the flying swarm and realised they were bees ...after an hour or so they disappeared and I finished the mowing without incident...but very strange behaviour.....just flying aimlessly around not settling on any of our trees or shrubs.

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Sep-06, 08:28 AM
Didn't see yours in here Arsenal  :shrug:

In this hole-in-one top ten, I reckon the first two were the best.
But they were from PGA tours, so you could expect sub-class one HIO's I guess   :lol:

Enjoy.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-07, 04:23 PM
Agree the one  off the cush was the best  :no1:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-08, 06:50 AM
The AGM of the golf club is coming up on 22nd September and there's a motion to allow voting rights to all the members who are presently excluded from having this privilege...they are 5/6 day members &  Associates...presently only full fee paying members and Life members can vote....surprisingly few bother ....despite the fact that there's little effort involved .....we have tried to get this motion up in the past but it never quite gets to the 75% vote to pass .....which is a requirement under the Act governing incorporated associations....this time the Board has included  a compromise ..a watered down version to give those excluded one half of a vote ......I suppose their thinking is half a loaf is better than none at all.....personally in all the organisations I have belonged to  I have never heard of such a thing...as a member everyone has a vote ..in golf clubs members who pay less have less playing rights.....and no voting rights...so it's with mixed feelings I'll support the motion although I think everyone should be treated equally as far as voting rights are concerned. :bulb:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Sep-08, 09:42 AM
Arsenal ... wouldn't the extension of voting rights to the non-full membership merely ensure you NEVER get 75%?

A fire needs to be lit.

Spread the rumour that Rio Tinto has discovered copper under the 3rd tee, and will be applying for rights to mine the fairways   :lol:   :lol:

Bet you the vote would be 100%   :biggrin:

Seriously though ... don't compromise your views - even for expediency.
Watering down a tenet never solves a problem.

Maybe the committee needs to look at their own approach, and could get a little more assertive with members?

Another bet - if the rumour was spread that annual playing fees are set to quadruple  next year, you'd also get full members voting   :lol:

Please see the pertinency of this in the "Share a Joke" thread 
Sometimes club members can be a bit mulish   :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-09, 08:18 AM
Crikey Jim the clubhouse is not short of rumours now ...without starting more....they spread like wildfire....embellished at every telling.  :lol:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-16, 04:35 PM
On Saturday I played in a different group from my usual one...... two of whom I played with years ago ....this time we played for a couple of $10 Tags ..there are 300 @$10 when they're all sold a draw is held half goes to charity and the other half goes to the holders of the winning Tag number $1000 $400 $100.....coming to  the last hole par 5 my partner and I were one down..... he has a shot and is on the green for three...the opposition gets 6/2 and we're going for birdie or par..... you wouldn't think it possible but  he three putted so we lost the match....I went in and there was only one Tag left....it won nothing ....today I was told that the group in front bought the second last Tag ......and that turned out to be the winner $1000....so close but came up empty. :tears:

Giddy Up  :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Sep-16, 04:46 PM
Naturally you and your partner were going to split the $1000 first prize?

Perhaps he owes you a lunch!

And a book on putting-to-win ... from you!  >:(
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-16, 10:46 PM
Yes Jim the whole team shares equally 25%= $250 not to be sneezed at. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Sep-17, 11:10 AM
Kind of reminds me of why I no longer play the game   :lol:

Not really ... it's more to do with having/making time.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-17, 10:56 PM
I have never seen a Lotus till yesterday in the golf club car park possibly a visitor although JS the guy who won the $15M Lotto some time back with one quick pick was playing...he's a big man and the Lotus is very low to the ground ..you can see the engine through the rear window didn't look very safe and a strange colour a bit in between bronze and brown the personal plate read BRAINS.

Maybe a brain surgeon very illuminating. :whistle:

Giddy Up  :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-21, 08:34 AM
Watching the final round of the BMW in Chicago today Jason Day a big winner I saw him up close about 10 years or so ago in the Gary Player at PGC ironic that this years Gary Player starts today at Pacific with a practice round before getting down to bizness tomorrow until the championship's final day on Friday.

Day is A Taylor Made tour player noticed the new logo on his cap M1......TM must be bringing out another new driver they seem to be churning out new products before the previous releases are old.....one interesting thing I noticed is his putter....Putter: TaylorMade Ghost Spider Itsy Bitsy Prototype.....Itsy Bitsy is the dam of one of my favourite pacers which I bought off Terry Peabody as an untried 2yo Sporting Sam by Trainer Hanover - Itsy Bitsy. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Sep-23, 12:03 PM
A big crowd rolled up for the 78th AGM of my golf club last night a good number of ladies.... who don't get a vote which is a benefit only full fee paying members both male and female enjoy...turned up to show their support  for the motion to give all 5/6 day members and Associates a vote ...on which only 90 members would decide...this issue of voting rights has been brought up in my memory 4 or 5 times previously and it only failed narrowly last time when I was part of the team promoting it...despite our best advocacy we failed to get a 75% vote...

Last night  the motion  to be voted on only sought a half vote for the categories presently denied one...which admittedly is a bit strange.....and no precedents for it were advanced....so an amendment to give a full vote was proposed....this developed into an interpretation of the rules whether it required a 75% vote or a simple majority.....the chairman after consulting with the GM among others ruled a simple majority was all that was required for an amendment ..when put to the meeting the amendment was carried 52/34 and became the motion where the same votes determined its fate ..so that the original half vote never got a look in ...IMO the ruling was in error but it's a technical point that doesn't matter now ..but would be helpful to confirm or otherwise if that's the right decision.

We have 450 voting members but only 192 bothered to vote for the Directorships there were 6 candidates for 4 positions and two were eliminated only one of which had been on the retiring board.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-01, 08:28 PM
Golfers generally are good people but now and then there'll be someone who complains about something which most of us wouldn't ever think warrants a second thought ..the latest is this excerpt from the club newsletter.....complaining that the recently repainted GREEN drinks cart is dangerous...... it's stationary outside the half way house...out of the way :o


[u]You would have noticed that the drinks cart is a new green colour and it will be decked out in the Heinekin decals and Pacific logos in the coming weeks.  A few people have commented that they feel the green colour is "unsafe" as it blends in with the grass too much, but we can assure you that this is not the case and that the staff are well aware of golfer activity when driving around the course.[/u]

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-03, 02:34 PM
Our first grandson Michael was married yesterday afternoon to Daniella in the same church my wife and I were married in at Rosalie all those years ago ......and a very good ceremony it was too...the church doesn't appear to have changed much.. the same priest who married our grand daughter officiated and came along to the reception in the City at Moda restaurant ...the menu was quite different to the usual wedding fare with shared plates and very good variety of Mediterranean style dishes .....plenty of choices in the drinks department ...loud music and dancing ......and a very late finish which I'm not used to...although I didn't over imbibe I decided to cancel golf today and have a few more hours sleep. :sleep:

Giddy Up :beer:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-04, 08:11 AM
I should stay home more often on Saturdays and watch the races instead of hitting that little white ball around the golf course...great day's racing  yesty Epsom day with wonderful performances by John O'Shea and James McDonald even managed to be on all of them.....although McDonald's great effort was dampened by a 6 meeting suspension and Epsom winning rider Hugh Bowman under investigation for possible foul using his elbow to ward off one in his way....Winx is a world beater .....some lucky owner Peter Tighe left a reported $9M when his dad Kevin passed away has the magic touch in more ways than one. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-05, 08:39 AM
In the CM today Golf gets a front page ....a follow up inside over two pages and a tail end to the  editorial ....about Qld's most exclusive golf club Royal Queensland voting down a motion to give women who are 6 day members voting rights(and unable to play on Saturdays ) there's some conflicting information in the story the front page asserts that women cannot become full members ......whereas Club President Andrew Corrigan contradicts that saying women can become full members.....which is the more likely of the two positions.

The reality facing golf clubs is that Saturday is when the major competition is held and with only 18 holes (some clubs have 36 but they're few and far between)there's a limit on the number of players the course can accommodate....only about 250 less than half a club's membership can get a game on Saturdays.

The Anti Discrimination Act Qld provides that sex discrimination in sporting clubs is not unlawful subject to certain conditions.

My golf club allows women to join as full members which gives them voting rights and the opportunity to play on Saturdays in special time slots reserved for women.

At our AGM a motion to give 5/6 day members and women voting rights regrettably failed to achieve the required 75% vote.....this would be 4 or 5 times that we have tried to get this up...so I think it's now dead and buried .

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-06, 08:26 AM
Courier Mail headline on the most recent shooting tragedy in USA ......"Killer's mother buys arsenal".....the cheek of them I'm not for sale.  >:(

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Post by: Deejayeff on 2015-Oct-06, 07:34 PM
Arsie (if I may)

Heard Peter Tighe on radio today and he waxed lyrical about his youthful days at Rocklea trots.

You have proud history there. Many a time you would have seen and conversed with a young Deejayeff.

He might not share your political leanings but he admires your tenacity on this forum, whether he believes you are right or wrong.

And, whether you believe it not, Deejayeff laments the loss of Rocklea. A blight on the administrators, he says.

Deejayeff hopes you live a long and healthy life. He and you can remember when the trots were fun.
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Post by: monologue on 2015-Oct-06, 07:42 PM
Rocklea showground was a special place .
I spent many a great afternoon there as owner and punter .

It certainly was a unique racetrack and Qld is poorer for its demise.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-07, 08:00 PM
Thanks Dave no doubt we have seen the best of it.....Peter was on the committee during my time his dad Kevin also was a mate ..your best wishes are reciprocated...many winners. :thumbsup:

You too Mono. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-08, 08:12 AM
Our first granddaughter Kristen had her first baby at 3.51am Tuesday.....Frederick Samuel 3.5 kgs...Sam is his dad....dunno where Frederick came from apart from TV show Frasier's son ...the kids are building quite a team Freddie is great grandchild three. :thumbsup:

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Post by: monologue on 2015-Oct-08, 09:27 AM
Congratulations Arsie.
Loving my role as Grandad to my 3 grandkids.

I've told them so many 'stories' during their stays up here that they now ask Grandma whenever I tell them something" Is that true Grandma".
If you have grandkids their enthusiasm for life does rub off on you and makes you feel young again.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-08, 07:52 PM
Yes Mono those of us with families have much to be thankful for......our children and their children are our best achievements. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-13, 12:55 PM
Saw Matthew Condon's interview this AM on ABC New promoting the last book in his trilogy... All Fall Down ....although I was disappointed with the second book ....Jacks and Jokers..... which I thought wasn't a patch on his  first...Three Crooked Kings.... I decided to empty the piggy bank and parted with $24 which is quite cheap as books go.....haven't got too far into it yet ...Terry Lewis a central character is about to go on his annual leave to Broadbeach.....I used to see him and Hazel his wife at mass in Surfers Paradise when our holiday periods would coincide....Condon mentions the friends and acquaintances Terry  has pencilled in in his diary to catch up with ...one of whom was my old mate Sir John Egerton ...whose surname Condon misspelled putting it down as Edgerton...Jack is long gone now but his son Ron who I haven't seen for years I hope is still alive and kicking. :thumbsup:

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Post by: dubbledee on 2015-Oct-14, 07:51 PM
Hey, Arsenal...

Saw your former mate Derrick Krafft drive a winner tonight at Bendigo. R3 KIT KELLER.

Think it was about $100 on the TAB.

Black and white quarters, red sleeves and cap.

Trained by Noela Krafft. ????
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Post by: ratsack on 2015-Oct-14, 07:54 PM
$179 NSW tote     :sad:
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Post by: dubbledee on 2015-Oct-14, 08:00 PM
Yep.

Arsenal knows him well - unless it's the son of...

We spelt his name Derrek, from memory.  Sky had Derrick.  :shrug:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-16, 08:47 PM
Thanks dubbles we'll go with whatever the harness club calls him ......Noela is his wife and trained here before they shifted to Victoria ...when on the Gold Coast Derrick trained for one of my mates Gordon Thomas who had a stamp shop in the Brisbane Arcade many years ago...Derrick's dad was Bill Krafft who trained gallopers one of his best was Hianthus who never knew how to run a bad race ...good to see the Kraffts are still amongst the winners. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-17, 10:27 AM
I played 9 holes yesty then my back gave out..so pulled out half way...but on the fifth hole a temporary Par4 I hit the worst drive of the group well off line finished just behind a bunker 100m out from the green ..but I nailed a pitching wedge which missed the flagstick narrowly but close enough to get a birdie....the first ever on this hole.   :king:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Oct-17, 01:24 PM
Ahh ... the joys of golf ... still more to achieved, no matter how many years of pain go before   :biggrin:

WD Arsenal - would the result have been any better with any other iron?
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Oct-17, 01:26 PM
btw .. the best known precursor to back problems is excess weight.

Horses are known to run poorly because of too much of it - both on their backs on on their frames!

Hope you recover from that malady.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-18, 08:23 AM
All better now Jim after some Indocid... I put my back out many years ago when the Union ran the former Tax Office cafeteria in the Executive Administration building.....I had picked up a bag of spuds from the Roma St markets and lifting it out of the boot of my car did the damage....I do some stretching exercises when I think of it...for the past few years I've managed to avoid it mostly with the occasional twinge recurring. :thumbsup:
In answer to your golfing question the answer is a pineapple. :/
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-20, 07:26 PM
Some good news  today from the Department administering The Place Names Board for those of us who resisted the proposal to change the name of our suburb which was promoted by a group including a local real estate agent.  :thumbsup:

"Good afternoon

I am writing to inform you of a recent decision not to proceed with the proposal to create the new suburb of Wishart Outlook by altering the suburb boundary of Eight Mile Plains, in accordance with the Place Names Act 1994. The decision means that there will be no change to property addresses within Eight Mile Plains.

This decision follows consultation with the public and the local Council, and is effective from 16 October 2015. The department received 2059 submissions from the public regarding this proposal. Enclosed is a copy of the Government Gazetted Decision Notice.

For more information about place names, or to view the plan online (listed as Job 14-051), visit the Department of Natural Resources and Mines website www.dnrm.qld.gov.au/mapping-data/place-names

Should you have any further enquiries regarding this mater, please contact me on the below details."

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-21, 07:18 AM
I was surprised to read of the trainer giving his horse a B12 injection every couple of days.....my GP recommended I have one  about 4 weeks apart.....which I've been doing for the past few months ...the injections come in packs of three and are on the PBS.....I had no idea they contained cobalt I hope I don't break into a gallop today when hitting the little white ball.  :lol:

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Post by: arthur on 2015-Oct-21, 08:32 AM
Have you tried 'milk-shakes'  :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-21, 08:02 PM
Have you tried 'milk-shakes'  :whistle:

Not lately.....but in my younger days I patronised The Moreton Milk Bar at Eagle Farm......very good malted milks they were too....but it's long gone.

Giddy Up :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-30, 08:03 AM
Melbourne Cup time every year I think with great affection and sentimentality about my great grandfather Billy English and his 1886 win in the cup on Arsenal...he was only 19 at the time and had ridden once before in 1883 that's some achievement to have a ride in the Melbourne Cup when only 16.....unfortunately his life in the saddle was short lived as in 1896 he was killed in a race fall at Canterbury leaving a wife and three young children to fend for themselves..one was my maternal grandmother.


"William ENGLISH History
 
1883 Melbourne Cup   William ENGLISH rode Lesbia but did not do well.
 
 
1886 Melbourne Cup  William rode Arsenal to the winning post.  The Melbourne Cup  written by Maurice Cavanough  states "Mr W Gannon was just another optimistic owner when he nominated Arsenal for the cup in 1886.  Arsenal's career at that stage was particularly undistinguished.  Bred by Mr Frank Reynolds at his successful Tocal Stud near Maitland, New South Wales, Arsenal was purchased by the wealthy Victorian sportsman, the Hon. W. Pearson for 625 guineas."  After the horse failed to win any other races the owner sold Arsenal to Mr W. Gannon a Sydney sportsman.
 
Arsenal suffered from tender feet and throughout his long preparation his trainer Harry Rayner, restricted him to work on the tan track where the touts paid him little attention.  A week before Cup Day, Arsenal was taken to Melbourne.  Mr Gannon had entrusted the mount on Arsenal to a little-known nineteen year old lad named W. English.  For all his inexperience, English rode a masterly race.
 
From The Melbourne Cup Club  "Though only 19 at the time, and only having his second ride in the Cup, jockey English rode with the aplomb of a veteran to win on Arsenal.  He had the four year old in third place on settling, holding that position until the home turn.  On approaching the straight, English gave Arsenal more rein to go to the front, with English still riding hand and heels.  Arsenal was still leading at the 50m when New Zealander Trenton ranged alongside with his rider Alick Robertson wildly using his whip in an attempt to inch past Arsenal.  However, English remained unperturbed, and didn't even resort to his whip under such pressure, to score by a long neck.
 
Despite his impressive and confident ride, English failed to get another Cup mount.
 
 
Victoria Racing Club advised me that in the week prior to the 1886 Melbourne Cup, W English rode a double at Rosehill.
 
Unfortunately for William ENGLISH he was killed whilst riding in an event on 1 October 1896.  He left a wife and 3 children.
 
From death certificate of William ENGLISH died at the Western Suburbs Cottage Hospital, Enfield.  A Inquest was held and cause of death was "Concussion of the brain from injuries accidently received through being thrown from the racehorse Regalia whilst riding in a race at Cantebury Racecourse". Dated 15 October 1896 ."
 
W. English is named on the Fallen Jockeys Memorial at Caulfield racecourse.

Giddy Up. :beer:

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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Oct-30, 09:43 AM
Arsenal - what a tragedy, yet what triumph!

Few can boast a relative who rode in a Melbourne Cup, let alone one who actually won the great event.

Your story evokes sentiment, and is so well told that the reader can actually empathise well with the life and times of young Billy English.
Hope there is more to the story.

As told elsewhere, my own maternal grandfather failed to elevate himself above the level of an accessory to illegal activities, as far as his involvement in racing went.
My mother used to tell me how he rented out his front verandah and telephone on a Saturday (and possibly other weekday racing days).

She related how the 'gentleman' used to watch the Doomben races from their Onslow Street, Doomben home, whilst using the phone to relate the winning numbers to a friend. I would rather describe the 'friend' as an accomplice, as my mother - to this day - is oblivious to the scam that was actually perpetrated on the SP bettors of the day.

Until 1931 it was not possible to legally bet anywhere but on course.
Thus the rise and rise of the SP shops ... which could not be stamped out.

Government response: Can't beat 'em ... so join 'em.

file:///C:/Users/Ivan%20is%20the%20User/Downloads/bookmaking-crime-racing-1990.pdf

Anyway Arsenal, if there is more to this story, I'd like to hear it.
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Post by: monologue on 2015-Oct-30, 12:05 PM
Yes indeed Arsie a great story but one of fact.

Did they do photos of cup winners back then or maybe just some etchings.
Wouldnt it be a great dinner conversation piece to have some reminder of that famous day for your family.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-30, 07:11 PM
We did have an oil painting in Arsenal's colours which was lost in a house fire.....I have a painting of Arsenal which I copied from a book but not with the colours that we think he wore in the Cup....and a black and white picture of my great grandfather in his suit and hat ... unfortunately  the picture has faded but it does show he was a sharp dresser.

If possible I'll try to get some help to post both pics...thanks for your interest. :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Amara on 2015-Oct-30, 07:58 PM
Wow How amazing  Arsenal Great stuff dear fellow
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-30, 09:28 PM
Thanks Amara
I'm trying to post the pics but no luck so far have to call technical assistance...my daughter who lives across the road. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Oct-31, 09:19 AM
Hope it works Billy English in Town . :thumbsup:

(http://s11.postimg.org/i6ef8z4pb/Billy_English_jockey_002.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/i6ef8z4pb/)


Oil painting of Arsenal.

From memory I think his colours were Cream & Maroon Stripes. :thumbsup:
 

(http://s11.postimg.org/dxeakjqtr/arsenal.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dxeakjqtr/)


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Post by: monologue on 2015-Oct-31, 10:19 AM
Nice one Arsie  emthup

Thanks
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Oct-31, 11:15 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-01, 03:06 PM
My wife and I went out for breakfast today local  Sports Club where members get a free Birthday breakfast voucher whoever comes along with the birthday girl or boy  pays the normal price ...the place was pretty full mostly older couples...we hadn't booked so sat at a long table ...it's a buffet style plenty to choose from ..fruit juice..serials ...fresh fruits..  toast ...tea coffee ....bacon sausages poached or scrambled eggs hash browns mushrooms baked beans etc .... I noticed this old guy searching for a table without a Reserved sign on it ...he was alone....the tables were all taken so when he looked in our direction I invited him to sit at our table which he accepted .....put his hot meal down and went to make some toast or tea coffee.....we had finished our meals by then ....and as we were leaving I realised I recognised him .....Leisha  is his name must be well in his 80's but still has a magnificent head of hair ..and is still a very handsome man ....his younger brother and I went to primary school together....Francois his mother called him but in later life he went as Frank...he took up practicing alternative medicine ... Frank passed away a long time ago ....he had a heart attack when a relatively young man...his family originally from Syria lived on Hardgrave Road West End in a big house half way up the hill ...Amalia one of the daughters married a friend of our family Tophie  who was a big punter ....he tipped us many winners...his sister Gloria and her husband Vince lived a few doors away from our home in Crowther Street they were great friends.....while living at home my father and I would go to the races with Vince in his Holden every Saturday.....Dad and Vince were bookies' clerks I was just another mug punter......after we left the Club I regretted I didn't make myself known to Leisha......although his breakfast would be getting cold had I done so ...he wouldn't have remembered me but I could have said "Hello" a bit  like Uncle Leo from Seinfeld. :thumbsup:   


Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Nov-01, 03:39 PM
Go back next week mate  :yes:

There will be more to this
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-02, 05:27 PM

(http://s24.postimg.org/xt9yfc7xt/4_Know_your_horses_Arsenal_700x537.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xt9yfc7xt/)


Arsenal in the Cup colours Maroon and Cream Stripes. :no1:


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Post by: Mick on 2015-Nov-02, 06:57 PM
Really enjoy your Down Memory Lane posts.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-02, 08:03 PM
Thanks Mick ..... but I'm running out of material .

Giddy up :beer:
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Post by: monologue on 2015-Nov-02, 08:10 PM
Arsie you must have some great Melb Cup day stories....We all Have. :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-03, 09:04 AM
There were some horrors when I was in the Union...the Council our management body met on the first Tuesday each month...November Melb Cup day...some of the delegates imbibed too much and turned up pissed ......we never knew what would happen ...Hyperno's year was the worst ....eventually I managed to convince the Executive to change the meeting date just for November and everyone was happy...a shambles no more.  :king:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-10, 07:09 PM
I picked up a cold last week....started coughing and had  a sore throat at golf on Wednesday....it felt so bad when I coughed I went to the doctor on Friday at my wife's urging.......she gave me a course of antibiotics with a repeat......felt lousy coughing all day.....waking through the night with severe bouts of coughing....bought some cough mixture from the chemist...used it all ..... my wife who had an appointment with our GP on Monday asked her if I should try something else ....she gave her a prescription for some Linctus......which has helped...coughing not so frequent but bloody uncomfortable ...sounds very loud.....and I get a headache from too much coughing.......have hardly any energy...no golf.....but feeling better now than before...hopefully it'll clear by Friday so I can have a hit with my mates....I haven't had a cold for years....we both get the Flu vaccine....and this isn't flu....worst cold I've ever had.....don't know how or where I picked it up.....haven't been close to anyone I know who could have spread the germs.......haven't left the house since Friday...reading bits of All fall Down by Matt Condon and watching the TURC on the puter. :bye:


Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Nov-10, 07:17 PM
Geez Arsenal - hope you shake this off soon.

Don't let it get out of hand mate ... and wish you well   emthup
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Post by: chuggers on 2015-Nov-10, 07:18 PM
I picked up a cold last week....started coughing and had  a sore throat at golf on Wednesday....it felt so bad when I coughed I went to the doctor on Friday at my wife's urging.......she gave me a course of antibiotics with a repeat......felt lousy coughing all day.....waking through the night with severe bouts of coughing....bought some cough mixture from the chemist...used it all ..... my wife who had an appointment with our GP on Monday asked her if I should try something else ....she gave her a prescription for some Linctus......which has helped...coughing not so frequent but bloody uncomfortable ...sounds very loud.....and I get a headache from too much coughing.......have hardly any energy...no golf.....but feeling better now than before...hopefully it'll clear by Friday so I can have a hit with my mates....I haven't had a cold for years....we both get the Flu vaccine....and this isn't flu....worst cold I've ever had.....don't know how or where I picked it up.....haven't been close to anyone I know who could have spread the germs.......haven't left the house since Friday...reading bits of All fall Down by Matt Condon and watching the TURC on the puter. :bye:


Giddy Up :beer:

Arsie,

got it last Sunday week...fine Saturday night then bang.....gone through 3 boxes of tissues....went to the Goldie..,with tissues...and barking...nose now come good...but very cheshty....barking still...a lot of people have it mate....just a cold...but a bad cold....

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Post by: ratsack on 2015-Nov-10, 07:56 PM
iv had the bastard for two months , still hanging on

although i still smoke    :shy:

look after yourself mate     emthup
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-10, 08:08 PM
I'm not alone sorry to hear about you fellows...summer colds should be rare you would think...hope we all recover sooner than later. :thumbsup:

Give up the smokes Rat never be a better time than when your taste is affected by a cold......I haven't had a cigarette since 11/9/1985.  :king:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Nov-10, 08:12 PM
Agree Arsenal - I haven't had a serious chest infection since quitting ciggies on 5th March 2004.

Easier said than done, but the health benefits were instant, practically.

Amazed that I wasn't able to quit much much earlier.

My dad quit when he was 50 and made it to 89, still spinning his wheels!
There is hope, and a very worthwhile resolution.

Rats - you knew us exxies would come out of the wood-work, didn't you  :fishing:
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Post by: ratsack on 2015-Nov-10, 08:39 PM
 :yes:

i just aim up week after week

seems fair to me , Ascot cant handle the ..........................

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Post by: monologue on 2015-Nov-10, 09:01 PM
I gave up the durries some 30 years ago and still ended up with moderate emphysema and sarcoids in the lungs.
Could have bitumined the Bruce highway with the amount of Tar I use to cough up.

Took me about 5 goes before I kicked the habit.

You'll know when to give it up rats and it won't help one iota what we say.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-20, 05:43 PM
Thanks to a guy named Chris in Manila I'm back on line after more than 24 hours of no internet connection ...I received a new modem last week and connected it with some help from one of the Telstra team on Sunday ...it worked fine until yesterday afternoon when I received a message to activate and register it again to fix my connection ..that's when the trouble started ...repeated attempts to do what Telstra asked resulted in more delays no connection and it was very frustrating ...but now it's back hopefully for good and I can catch up with what I missed over the past 24 hours.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-23, 07:22 AM
There was a story over the weekend of an Ipswich solicitor who sued a former distant relative by marriage for defamation claiming $250K for referring to him as "a Dennis Denuto from Ipswich"  implying he was unprofessional and incompetent. :o

Dennis Denuto was a bumbling lawyer in the Australian movie The Castle representing Darryl Kerrigan played by Michael Caton.....Dennis  based his case" On the vibe " and after Bud Tingwell took over as his leader in the court  Darryl won the case to save his home "The Castle."

Unfortunately for the solicitor in the news his defamation action didn't have a happy ending.....the judge  might just as well have told him  "he's dreaming" as Darryl was fond of saying in the movie......he dismissed the claim for defamation saying that he had called an air strike on hisself as once he filed the claim in the court it became public knowledge.....otherwise nobody outside the family would have known about the insult.

Reminds me of another member of the Ipswich legal fraternity who I encountered at  AGM of the IATC when the club came out of administration back in the early 90's and Bob Bentley was elected as chairman which started his rise in the racing industry....I have forgotten what the topic was but this guy was rambling on about something and in the course of trying to impress the meeting he knew what he was talking about he mentioned he was a lawyer......he was interrupted by an elderly member who like the rest of us was  tired of listening .....and asked the question....."Where are ya from ...Sydney or Melbourne?"....to which the learned gentleman replied "Ipswich"....that lightened up the audience.  :lol:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Nov-25, 07:31 AM
After a long career in TV Kerry O'Brien has said farewell to viewers on the 4Corners program which he has hosted for many years...he intends to still earn a dollar by doing a bit of scribbling as a journo........Kerry was in the same class as my younger brother at St Laurences' College South Brisbane.......my old school too...although I have to admit I didn't enjoy it as much as my brother....he went on to Uni and became a Professor in Sociology....now lives in Victoria......I left school as soon as I was allowed and got a job.  :king:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-03, 07:43 PM
Our end of year function was last night at the Golf club with almost a full house...... the seafood is the major attraction for me and most others and all you can eat and drink for $40 was a bargain too good to refuse.....while I didn't over imbibe of the demon drink two half glasses of wine one beer and two lime and sodas ....some of my table mates were knocking them down with gay abandon .....I reckon most would have sore heads today....and while the car park wasn't full there were lots of cars......driving home would be a risk ......although the Club runs a courtesy bus which is a sensible choice for those affected by too much liquor......or too lazy to drive themselves or ask wifey if they have one to pick them up

The entertainment if you could call it such was from a rough looking guy with a straggly ginger beard whose routine was foul language and attempts at jokes about disgusting practices...he was so bad I packed up and left shortly after he began ...lots of other members were  disgusted and he won't be invited back next year....why they bother with an entertainer is to cut down on the drinks bill...as the committee has found that patrons don't go to the bar for refills while the stage is occupied.

The presentation of trophies was the highlight for me winning the B grade championship trophy for rounds of 64 and 68 ...a figure of a bronze golfer to add to my small trophy cabinet...on Saturday night my golfing partner and me were presented with a gold medallion for our win in the Honour Board Event The Pacific  Anniversary Cup plus a hundred dollar voucher each.  :king:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-07, 08:41 AM
One of our neighbours is selling up after 14 years .....there's only the two of them and they've decided to get a smaller place...it's a very nice house ..when advertised for sale it attracted lots of interested parties ...mainly Asians......one couple put in an offer which was accepted ..the catch was the date of vacating the premises ..the buyers wanted in on 5th January...that's too soon for Luch and his wife...they have to find their next apartment or town house ....so the buyers upped their offer by $15K......that's a big enough incentive to move out and handover agreed on 5th Jan......I'm hoping the new neighbours are as nice as the old ones ..they were terrific ....nothing ever bothered them and any electrical work just across the road .....no waiting for tradies who don't come when they say they could ....it'll be a bonus if the new guy is a golfer ....I'll invite him to join the Golf club.....or if not maybe I might  convince him to take up the great game. :thumbsup:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-08, 01:25 PM
Following an electrical contractor's ute a sign on the bottom of the tray read ...."If you have a problem ....we have the solution." :thumbsup:

One of old Sir Joh's more memorable one-liners "If they give me a problem...I'll give them a bigger one."


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Post by: arthur on 2015-Dec-08, 05:15 PM
 :offtopic: BUT . .

Still in the Joh era

In 1982 a lot of country cops were drafted to Brisbane to thicken up the 'thin blue line' for the Comm Games

The 'Land Rights' folk were threatening demo's to highlight their issues

Big local Sarge said to me: "Land rights . . if I get the chance I'll give 'em a couple of 'achers' to start with!" . . and no doubt he would have had Joh's blessing to do so  :whistle:  :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-09, 08:34 PM
Things were a lot different then Arthur.......after the Springbok's tour and demos Joh rewarded the Police with an extra week's leave which they still enjoy today .... I wouldn't want to be a copper then or today with the drugs and mindless violence they encounter.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-10, 07:09 AM
Some repercussions for our Wednesday Club resulting from the performance of the so called entertainer at our Annual Christmas Party....I left once he started his foul disgusting routine......but he still got his fee ....an unbelievable $1600......and he was so bad the Captain tapped him on the shoulder and told him to piss off......and the Board has since advised the Wednesday Club that in future any entertainer they select has to be approved by the Board......and things may never be the same .....talk is the seafood might be taken off the menu...and a BBQ instead....apparently there was a lot of food left over...but that could be solved by ordering less and scrapping the entertainer.....that wouldn't be missed ...we don't come to be entertained ...we can entertain ourselves.....but we like prawns and oysters :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-16, 07:01 PM
Many years ago whilst a well intentioned agitator for a better deal for harness racing from the then Lib/Nat coalition when the Racing portfolio was with the Treasury.....at the time Sir Gordon Chalk Lib Lockyer which is around Gatton .....was Treasurer and Racing Minister ...and the TAB was still a government owned body.....he responded to our reasonable demands  for a better deal by suggesting we cut out one race and increase the other 6 or 7 races by the amount saved....problem solved  :o

I quite liked Chalky although I only met him on a few occasions he was always approachable and had a good SOH.....he was a regular racegoer...he and Leo Heilscher were a great team .....I remember one story about racing that Chalkie  spoke of and which may have led him to suggest we cut out one race...turns out he received a letter from a constituent complaining that her husband or son always always lost whatever he had  on the last race and she appealed to Chalky to help by cancelling the last race so he would go home with something in his kick.  :lol:


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Post by: arthur on 2015-Dec-17, 09:21 AM
I'd be a lot wealthier today, if they'd cut out the FIRST race  :sad:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-18, 10:18 AM
I'd be a lot wealthier today, if they'd cut out the FIRST race  :sad:

It's taken me a long time to restrict the number of bets...now Saturday only.

Once upon a time I would spend hours on Friday nights doing form from The Sportsman ..mid week Sporting Globe for the race pictures.....now just a cursory look and replay the videos.....mark some to follow...and go to golf. :thumbsup:

Happy punting Arthur.  :bye:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-18, 06:08 PM
One of my regular golfing group is a former bobby from South Yorkshire......today while discussing the weak sentences and virtual slaps on the wrist handed out here by some members of the judiciary ..he told of his experience in the local court which was presided over by Judge Pickles.....if he found the defendant guilty.....and deserving of a custodial sentence ....say two years ...he would double that ..on the basis that with good behaviour the crim would be out in half the time and would serve the right amount of time he thought the crime deserved ......one day Judge Pickles gave a serial small time tea leaf 6 months......as he was being escorted to the wagon ...he muttered something which the judge didn't hear.....so he asked the prisoner did he have something to say.....he shook his head.....the guard piped up "I heard him your honour"...he said ..."I could do that standing on me head".....bring him back said the Judge....."I'll give you another 6 months so that you'll land on your feet."

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-20, 12:00 PM
Confirming it's the silly season we had a Greenkeepers' Revenge game yesty....a 4 ball multiplyer...where the single stableford scores of each player are multiplied ..if one has a 3 pointer and the other say a 1 their score is three...when one washes a hole there's no score ...and the greens staff play and choose the tee positions and where the flags are placed ...tees forward or back ..on the side of slopes ..flags in the surrounds or behind bunkers and on one hole a false flag at the back and the real one at the front ..more confusion....impossible to putt the ball into the false hole ..just big enough to hold the flag stick.....no cup as is normal ....on the 11th the tees were on the side of a slope very awkward but it was one hole where we both had pars a 9 pointer but overall it wasn't an enjoyable game although the weather was fantastic...next year I'll be giving it a miss.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-22, 06:53 PM
I had my monthly shot of B12 today...I don't know if it's of any real benefit but my GP recommended I try it.....first time she hit me with B12 was on the day of our Wednesday Club Championships a few months ago ........I shot 64 almost a course record although the course rating was  a lot easier due to the par3  13th being reconstructed and we played the normal par 4 5th hole twice... 5A is a par4 whilst 5B is a par 3....a lot easier than when it's the normal hole. :thumbsup:


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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Dec-22, 07:00 PM
Shoulda bin swabbed Arsenal ... or does your club allow 'stimulants'   :lol:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-23, 08:25 AM
Shoulda bin swabbed Arsenal ... or does your club allow 'stimulants'    :lol:  

Swab free zone Jim ...there's a prohibition of drinking on the course but it's not enforced...some load up the ESKY from the Bar .....smoking is banned on the tees greens and only permitted on the right hand side of fairways...but it's ignored .....apart from medication I think  most golfers would be  free of dangerous substances...I usually have a glass of milk 3 teaspoons of Sustagen Vanilla with some frozen banana mixed in the NutiriBullet before a game..I need all the help I can get. :thumbsup:

Giddy up :beer:
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Post by: Jims Punting on 2015-Dec-23, 04:18 PM
Swab free zone Jim ...there's a prohibition of drinking on the course but it's not enforced...some load up the ESKY from the Bar .....smoking is banned on the tees greens and only permitted on the right hand side of fairways...but it's ignored .....apart from medication I think  most golfers would be  free of dangerous substances...I usually have a glass of milk 3 teaspoons of Sustagen Vanilla with some frozen banana mixed in the NutiriBullet before a game..I need all the help I can get. :thumbsup:

Giddy up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-24, 06:03 PM
I had a most enjoyable round of golf today...the course was virtually deserted...while the Clubhouse was very boisterous....started around 11.30 nobody in front until I reached the second hole.......two visitors in front didn't hold me up and had no company until I was joined on the 14th by another guy I play with occasionally.....tallied up my score 8 pars all over .....23 points on the front nine but only 16 on the back .....still a very respectable score ...the fact that there's no pressure while playing socially no doubt accounts for scoring better than yesterday. :thumbsup:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-28, 06:24 AM
One of our son's had a call from his sister in law on Saturday her brakes failed near Beenleigh on the way home to Ocean Shores he went down picked her up and drove her home ..the car was towed to the nearest RACQ centre......many years ago one Sunday afternoon my girlfriend and I were coming back from the Gold Coast in my first car a red Singer with a canvas top when it broke down half way home......it was towed to Phillip Peachey's Garage at Ormeau to be repaired.......I rang home my parents didn't own a car but our neighbour Vince (The Black Panther he called hisself)did and he drove down from West End and picked us up.....I was working at the Main Roads at the time so on Friday after work ...(no flexi time in those days)...I caught the bus to Ormeau and drove the little heap of crap home...it was a bloody bomb...but all I could afford at the time.....I think it cost about 157 quid from Worths' Car Sales at Lutwyche .....at the time the sales guy said he wished I was buying a better car ...he knew it was a lemon.....but it was the only one ....all the rest have been good. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2015-Dec-30, 05:39 PM
Due to flooding the 13th hole has to be redesigned David Burrup was appointed to do the job after members were levied with a one off $185 to repair the hole.......hopefully it will be completed in February.....and these pics before and after show the extent of the work.

Before
(http://s14.postimg.org/kxabcypct/DSCF0429_before2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kxabcypct/)

Today's progress.


(http://s22.postimg.org/48d0bk6gd/DSCF0470.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/48d0bk6gd/)
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-01, 06:34 PM
Watched an ABC doco last night called Hard Time about prisons in USA this one in Jackson Mississippi is a super max for the most dangerous violent offenders some of whom were interviewed mostly Blacks hundreds of them "ya know wot I'm sayin " ....one white guy on death row for murder has been waiting 22 years finally got word with only two hours to spare before they stuck the needle in him that the Parole Board had commuted his death sentence to LIFE over there life is life no early remissions...he had ordered and eaten his last meal Steak & the works.

Years ago there was a café in Elizabeth St across the road from my old office building Nicks it was called famous for Steak & the Works one night we were there my mate very cheekily asked if the "works" included the waitress. :rolleyes:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-02, 09:50 PM
I had a shocker at golf...couldn't get out of bunkers......Hitler had the same trouble...my sympathetic partner remarked. :(

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-16, 10:35 AM
Had a much better day yesty at golf .....for the first 12 holes 27 points then my back gave out .....inexplicably didn't do anything out of the ordinary but I knew it felt it and had to pull out been on anti inflammatory tabs and heat packs since so no golf until it gets better.


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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-19, 03:19 PM
My back is improving slowly but not quite ready to test it at golf tomorrow ....might just walk 9 holes with my mates and have lunch in the clubhouse.

Today while out walking I noticed a blackboard on the footpath outside a South Brisbane coffee shop ......it read...."People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."  :biggrin:

In my youth when we would go to Coolangatta for the weekend there was a hamburger joint near the railway station it had a sign which I've never forgotten ..."Come in and eat before we both starve." :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-21, 03:26 PM
Finally followed my former Yorkshire golfing partner's advice with a trip to the British Fish n Chippery at Birkdale today for a serving of Fagotts in Onion gravy with chips and mushy peas ......an enormous serving.... three rissole like faggots smothered in onion gravy ..very tasty too but with far too many chips for me and a spoonful of mushy peas...much too large a meal for me ...but for those who enjoy a large helping it would be fine $11.50 very reasonably priced...my wife had Cod with Chips also $11.50 a couple of drinks $30.20 all up...won't need much for dinner after that. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-21, 06:01 PM
A trip down memory lane today thanks to Phil Purser bringing a story on the opening night when night trotting came to Albion Park in September 1968 and what a great spectacle it was. :thumbsup:

http://www.justracing.com.au/

Pity to see the sad state of harness racing today with only three tracks operating.

In the good old days there was trotting at Cairns, Innisfail, Charters Towers, Townsville,Mackay, Maryborough, Toowoomba, Ipswich , Rocklea , Gold Coast and Redcliffe.....most now just a fading memory. :tears:

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Post by: arthur on 2016-Jan-22, 01:30 PM
http://www.dailymercury.com.au/news/apn-race-clubs-long-run-coming-to-a-sad/73821/

The crowd at that opening night of night-trotting in Mackay was huge

A little guy in a light-blue safari suit (that's D-M-L stuff) had brought a team of trotters for the occasion, and they left the local hayburners in their wake; while he put the local bookies (a very strong ring in those days) to the sword

His wife had quite a large handbag, and it was chock-a-block

From memory , his name was Bricknell . . or something like that  :whistle:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-22, 07:40 PM
That's interesting Arthur.....the Trotting Year Books I have show Mackay was a Day Meeting up to 1977 when it is listed as a d/night club It looks  like the first night meeting was on 20th November 1976 followed by day meetings ...... it could be John Blunsdon you are thinking of he was always taking a truckload up North.

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Post by: arthur on 2016-Jan-22, 08:24 PM
Was being a bit sarcastic . . It was Laurie Bricknell . . and he 'cleaned up'

First night meeting was a Saturday night . . Sat. arvo gallops meeting was poorly attended (not by today's standards) with many waiting for 'opening night'  . . can't remember how long they went before changing to Friday nights, and then to Wednesday afternoons . . and then to oblivion  :confused1:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jan-23, 10:28 AM
Laurie Bricknell was reported to be a very good sling too.....not like a knock about race horse trainer I knew who made up the story that a big punter was backing the horse to make sure the jockey didn't hold it .....he told the jockey Bunky Naylor  was backing the horse ...after it won the jockey came around to the trainer looking for his sling ..you better go and see Mr Naylor said the trainer. :shutup:

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Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2016-Jan-27, 10:33 AM
A mate sent an email pointing out that it was 40 years ago yesterday that we first went to the Randwick races.

It is great that I can get the newspapers of the day and look up the results next day. This is for Tuesday 27th January 1976.

(http://s28.postimg.org/c6mwv1hbt/results_19760126_BG.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/c6mwv1hbt/)

In hindsight, it was a pretty good meeting as a pointer to the future.

Winner of the first race Great Lover went on to win the 1976 AJC Derby (run in the Spring in those days). Trained by TJ Smith, it is strange to see it going around in a 1200m race on Australia Day.

The winner of the 2nd race, Burwana, went on to win the Doomben 10,000 that year.

The horse that came second to Burwana, Cheyne Walk, was trained by TJ Smith, and would win the Champion Stakes that year and travel up to Brisbane to win the Doomben Cup and the Qld Derby later on. Doomben Cup was a handicap in those days so as a 3yo I guess he wouldn't carry much.

The winner of the last race (Listed race Challenge Stakes these days), River Ridge, was a short course specialist who had won the QTC Lightning the year before, and who would return to win it in 1978!

(http://s28.postimg.org/p2956eho9/results_19760126_C.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/p2956eho9/)

The horse that ran second to River Ridge, Sticks And Stones, a big black horse trained by TJ Smith, would go on to break the track record at Randwick for 1200m, a record that stood for nearly two decades or more if I remember correctly. He was unsound but could have been anything.

He was to leave a lasting legacy at stud as the sire of Our Diamond Lover, a daughter of the legendary Eight Carat who produced some important horses in the Australian racing and breeding industry.

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Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2016-Jan-27, 10:50 AM
Actually upon reflection I think that the Doomben Cup in those days was run after the QTC Derby, so it would have been Derby, then Cup for Cheyne Walk.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-01, 01:53 PM
Mate of mine had a home invasion today his son woke around dawn after hearing a noise he got out of bed and caught two thieves passing his possessions out one of the windows when challenged one punched the son and split his lip the son thumped him back and the thieves ran off with my mate in hot pursuit he lost them and when he returned home he noticed two blokes walking towards his house but then they disappeared they must have crossed into a neighbour's yard and came around the back taking my mate by surprise he said they had batons in their hands mumbling they were going to do him over but thought better of it and they both took off.....shouldn't take the cops too long to pick them up they have been given a good description.....son lost some jewellery a valuable ring and keys to his car ....not a good start to the week hopefully they won't come back again...once they do the time after they're caught charged convicted and imprisoned.


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Post by: Jims Punting on 2016-Feb-01, 02:30 PM
If it's not Crimsafe ... it's not crim safe ... do what you like with that.

Arsenal - that was no home invasion - that was a common burglary.

My son (Perth) had a knock on the door and and he opened it a tad only to have a size 12 boot give it an almight kick.
Next thing he remembers he was on the floor with a big bump on the head and a thug standing over him demanding to know where "X" was.
Turns out "X" owed them money for heroin.

"X" was not at that house.
They went through the home looking for him, but only found a small frightened boy, his missus, a smaller frightened girl and a baby.
They left without further incident.

THAT'S a home invasion.
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Post by: dean on 2016-Feb-01, 03:08 PM
Similar case some years ago at Caboolture. A gentleman who trained some greyhounds had just moved into the property a few months earlier. The poor chap opened the door one day and was shot instantly by an intruder. Unfortunately the previous residents were connected with the drug trade and there was a suggestion that proceeds of drug money may be in the house. Sadly Leo Coutts was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Post by: arthur on 2016-Feb-01, 04:57 PM
once they do the time after they're caught charged convicted and imprisoned.

Don't you mean rehabilated  :rant:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-01, 06:39 PM
The early 9 News had a story which on the face of it is connected to the incident I posted earlier today ...turns out a woman at Norman Park .....not too far from Carindale...... where my mate lives........ interrupted two would be thieves attempting to gain entry  to her home ..she locked herself away and rang the police who arrived very promptly ..the two perps had disappeared but police  found them nearby when the stolen car they were driving crashed...the two men were arrested..... according to the news report they are responsible for a series of crimes including armed hold ups, home invasions ,burglaries etc...good news assuming they don't get bail. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Jims Punting on 2016-Feb-01, 07:34 PM
That is great news Arsenal.

I hope the book is thrown at them - these thugs think nothing of hurting people who get in the way of their crimes.

However ... we all know how sorry the courts feel for these underprivileged people, so don't look for or expect justice.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-01, 08:22 PM
The two they caught don't fit the descriptions of the Carindale two.... 9 news shows their faces too......will be looking at no bail and extensive time in our correction facility.....the Big House.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/02/01/20/03/stolen-bmw-smashed-in-arrest-after-two-week-manhunt

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Post by: ratsack on 2016-Feb-01, 08:34 PM
if they can fit them in ?
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-02, 11:18 AM
if they can fit them in ?

Overcrowding in chokey has always been a problem Boggo Road  had some dormitory wings which are trouble and double bunking up in single cells was another last resort...very big problem for govments......there are no votes in prisons.....sometimes  prisoners are held in police watch houses until there's a vacancy in the jail......but these two are going in for sure.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-05, 09:45 AM
Woke up this morning ...like the intro to The Sopranos....noticed the bedside clock radio was off indicating a power outage...all the lights worked but none of the appliances ....I checked the power box the safety switch was in the off position ...turned it on but it reversed itself ...rang the electrician who suggested we unplug all appliances .....then try the safety switch again ...that worked OK ...now turn the appliances back on ..one by one ....all OK bar the electric jug......so that's where the problem is ..the jug is rooted...everything else OK....cancelled the electrician ...used a spare jug for breakfast and my wife will buy a new one later today ...must remember this process in case it happens again....saved a service call $120. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Jims Punting on 2016-Feb-07, 08:23 AM
Beat this Arsenal: You've got competition!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-05/golfing-robot-gets-hole-in-one/7144224
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-07, 01:03 PM
I can't compete with that.....but it's not only skill...you need just as much luck...Leif Olson's lucky HIO takes some beating. :no1:


https://www.facebook.com/PGATour/videos/10152824461631330/



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Post by: Jims Punting on 2016-Feb-07, 03:08 PM
I can't compete with that.....but it's not only skill...you need just as much luck...Leif Olson's lucky HIO takes some beating. :no1:
https://www.facebook.com/PGATour/videos/10152824461631330/
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Nice shot - Eddie Charlton couldn't top that on the big table, or even Firezuki  :beer:
But I'd like to know wtf is a robot going to do with a Z4 Roadster - the damn thing would never fit in the front seat!
Soon we'll be looking at the Robot Masters PGA Tour - technology is pervading every single thing humans are doing  :sad:
You'll be competing against machines ... look at Chess ffs. Where's the fun in life any more  :wacko:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-08, 08:31 AM
Colin Tidy mentioned Jack Mandel who is long gone but in his day was a Sydney bookie and racehorse owner.... Persian Lyric was one he named in J Tapp's interview ..... many years ago my wife and I stayed a night or two with her friend who was married to the studmaster at Woodlands Stud in the Hunter Valley ....at the time he was fire branding the yearlings ....a painful experience since replaced by freeze branding ....I remember one particular chestnut colt tied to the rail when the red hot brand was applied to his shoulder ....the smell of burnt skin and hair the squeals of pain from the other colts ...but although terrified he suffered silently and I thought to myself this little guy has what it takes ..courage....he wasn't named but Joe told me he was owned by Jack Mandel ..I never found out his name or whether he made it to the races...but I've never forgotten that day...and the night sky was marvellous pitch black with the stars shining above no near neighbours or traffic sounds to disturb the peace and quiet...reminds me some of the lines from Banjo Paterson's poems...
 .And the bush hath friends to meet him, and their kindly voices greet him
 In the murmur of the breezes and the river on its bars,
 And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
 And at night the wond'rous glory of the everlasting stars. :thumbsup:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Feb-14, 06:37 PM
Another two break ins in Carindale this week.....one guy told me said he saw a stranger a woman with a clip board early one morning prior to the burglaries he suspects she cases the area and provides the thieves with their targets...seems they go for two storied houses while the residents are asleep upstairs...usually around 4.30 or 5am there's been a string of these recently but so far no arrests. :o

One of my golfing partners lives in a unit block in South Bank the other day the postie left a card in their letter box for them to pick up two parcels when they weren't home to sign for the delivery......the parcels weren't at the PO when he went there ...turns out the postie put them on a shelf in the vestibule when another resident let him in .......it gets worse .....a local layabout was seen sitting outside and followed another resident into the building and was caught on CCTV picking up the parcels and exiting the building......the police took particulars but showed no interest in pursuing the thief who would be caught on all the BCC CCTV's in that area but only police have access to view them ...worse the building manager refused my mate's request to see the CCTV on privacy grounds ..the thief's privacy ......looks like the PO will be liable for restitution but poor compensation as one of the parcels contained birthday gifts of jewellery and $150 cash for his grand daughter from her father who lives in NQ....police gave not low priority but no priority to his complaint ..most unsatisfactory I suggested he contact his local member The Hon Trad and get her to liven up the cops.   :king:  


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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Mar-08, 05:21 PM
On Saturday we played a two ball ambrose one guy in the four off a handicap of 1 hit a trick shot on the last hole that I had never seen before .....he called it a ball in a box...take a golf ball .....an old one preferably if there's water ahead....... and put it in a box that balls come in ..open the end facing the fairway ..put the box on the tee and hit it with your driver....surprising how far it went...I tried it myself on Monday and it wasn't far short of where I normally drive to on that hole.....will demo it tomorrow with my usual Wednesday group. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Mar-11, 12:27 PM
Just returned from the pre polling centre after voting in the Qld Local Govt election being held on 19th March...the pre poll voting station is in a shed behind Ultratune an industrial area with limited parking on Kessels Rd ..one parking spot only.....possibly the worst place the Electoral Commission could have chosen.... if they get more than 4 people voting at the one time they won't be able to move it's so cramped...and they're paying $4K a month for the place up to December ....whether that's connected with the Federal election is a mystery......maybe the landlord required the extended period and the ECQ had no better option....poor choice and very expensive. :thumbsd:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Apr-20, 07:17 PM
Listening to music on the way home from golf today the announcer on community radio introduced Neil Simon's Missus Robertson when the name of the song is Missus Robinson ......this brought back memories of my old boss who was in the habit of keeping a daily diary his secretary took notes and he dictated thus :- " Margaret Robinson rang R O B E R T S O N.".
He pronounced it one way but spelled it out another.  :lol:

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Post by: westie on 2016-Apr-20, 09:26 PM
Here you go.

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Post by: tontonan on 2016-Apr-20, 11:04 PM
Neil Simon was a hell of a playwright.   Paul Simon is a hell of a song writer.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Apr-21, 08:47 AM
Thanks to both of you for that....I was half right. :shy:


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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Apr-24, 07:15 AM
The 13th hole has been redeveloped to avoid flooding problems from last year it was designed by David Burrup ....his contractors used a large quantity of granite rocks around the pond course staff put the finishing touches ...they did a magnificent job . The hole opened yesterday as it turned out both my partner and I had pars.....this is a before and after shot taken on Friday.....where 20 of us had a chance to hit off before the official opening ..I was short of the green but did better yesterday. :thumbsup:

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Apr-24, 07:49 AM

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Participants group photo at the opening of our 13th hole Friday.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Apr-26, 05:56 PM
Many years ago my old mate Mr Davis rang to invite me  to Redcliffe trots it was a mid week night his horse was in and he thought it could win ...... I couldn't possibly I said I've got a splitting migraine ...don't you worry about that he said I've got something that'll fix it ...so he twisted my arm and picked me up with another couple of trot fans Nick and Joe and off we went. Mr Davis gave me this yellow pill....Mersyndol... I swallowed it down and during the drive I fell asleep. Arriving at the track I got out of the car in the fresh night air the migraine had disappeared ...I was as fresh as a daisy so from that day on Mersyndol is my go to medication for the occasional migraine.

In those days it was on the prohibited drug list in Qld but was freely available over the counter at Tweed Heads where we would drive down to buy it...eventually it became available up here over the counter.....today the current supply reached its expiry date so I went up to the pharmacy to buy a fresh lot.

I had to hand over proof of identification my driver's license in order to get a box...this had never been required previously ....but I was told there are new rules with issuing codeine type products and the pharmacy has to make a record of persons buying these drugs ...due to druggies buying medication to turn it into prohibited substances that they sniff snort or inject .

The horse didn't win but ran third so it wasn't a complete loss and I discovered the benefits of Mersyndol.


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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2016-May-11, 08:38 AM
Having some spare time on my hands yesty I went for a drive to where my life began in West End it's unrecognisable now from what it was when I grew up ..there are many of the old houses which survive even if absent some much needed maintenance but the growth of apartment buildings is astounding and more are being constructed cranes dot the skyline if he was alive today old Joh would be in his glory pointing out the development ...yet the CM and Nick Behrens the guy from the business council or chamber of commerce is forever complaining the QLD economy is stagnant ..he ought to get out of his office and take a tour south of the river where construction is booming ...whether the city's infrastructure and roads will cope is another matter.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-May-25, 07:46 PM
My old golfing mate "Bunny" turned 90 last week so to commemorate this achievement he posed for a photo today on the first tee at Pacific Golf Club ........"Bunny" still walks the course with a motorised buggy taking the strain out of pushing it uphill and is very fit ...doesn't look 90 he doesn't drink or smoke and never swears ..."bloomin" is his way of describing an adverse event .In his younger days he as an amateur pug won all 6 fights and turned his attention to training greyhounds from his home in Wishart with quite some success. He said he took his best dogs to race at Harold Park and Wentworth Park and collected the cash ..his best were Smokey Leonard....Atlantic Chief and Big System.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: gunbower on 2016-May-25, 09:25 PM
Arsenal- Is that Bunny Hewton ?
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-May-26, 07:08 PM
Yes indeed .....the one and only :thumbsup:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-May-31, 07:21 PM
A bit belated but CM caught up with "Two hardy punters" at the open day trials at Eagle Farm almost a fortnight ago...that's me on the right.

Hope the weather man gets it wrong again ,,,,,,,,,his forecast for later this week Saturday in particular heavy rain will spoil the reopening day for everyone attending Oaks Day.


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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jun-01, 06:17 PM
No mistaking who we backing in tonight's State of Origin watching from afar our Wednesday golfing group today with a back view  look at the star of the team 90yo "Bunny" Hewton the fittest 90 I've ever known. :beer:

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Post by: arthur on 2016-Jun-02, 03:27 PM
http://www.brisbaneracing.com.au/article.php?current_article=7561

I'll pinch a bit of space on Arsenal's blog for a couple of my 'memories' inspired by Phil's scrapbook . .

Johnny Harbutt . .

A mate of mine sold his car to put it all on Eye Liner in the Champagne Stakes . . wasn't it great to be young . . Gee 50 years go quickly . . and he got the lot on in the Mackay betting ring. It was only a VW but  pretty good testimony to the strength of country rings in those days, because obviously he wasn't the only one backing Eye Liner

He became a bit of a pain after that as he memorised the call and after a couple of beers he would use his empty glass as an echo-chamber and we would cop . . "Not a bad break at barrier rise . . Actually first to begin was . . . . . . . And Harbutt says 'Let's go Eye Liner . .

Haven't seen Jack for a time but I'll bet that if he is still on the right side of the turf, he can repeat that call


Ronny Sturdee . .

Ron was the perfect gentleman, so not really surprised to see him helping with the didhes. He came to Mackay  to ride for the O'Donnell family who had a cane / cattle property at a place called Bloomsbury . . their cane was loaded onto the rail at Mowo Siding and nearly all of their horses had the Mowo prefix to their names . . Although 'Mowo' didn't appear in the name of their best cuddy 'Pacific Prince'

And unless I am wrong the connect between the two tales is that both E-L and P-P were by Smokey Eyes . . . ( Correction Pacific Prince was out of a Smokey Eyes mare . . . Eye Liner)

And Cedric 'Bub' O'Donnell used to have a motel near the Eagle Farm racetrack
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jun-13, 11:01 PM
The second season of Better Call Saul is streaming now on STAN .......after watching the first season I was very keen to see the second season  ...Bob Odenkirk the shifty lawyer from Breaking Bad as Saul Goodman who represented Walter White is back as Jimmy McGill...Mike the ex cop and heavy for the drug guys in BB is back as a freelancer doing the odd job .....this show is well worth the sub of $10 a month with a free 30 day trial to begin with. :thumbsup:

http://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jun-14, 05:31 PM
Went shopping with my wife today at Garden City passed the Food Court and noticed the Biltong stand which I haven't tasted for years.. air dried beef strips a South Efrican delicacy the only place I knew where to buy it previously was at a Belmont butcher shop that must be close to 20 years ago...so today I bought a sample 100g only 5.99 and very glad I did next time I'll leave out the Mexican version it's just a bit hot for my taste. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jun-20, 05:51 PM
Had a game at Wynnum today with the BDVGA started on the 10th hole the back nine was very wet almost impossible to find a spot without bringing up water but the front nine which is on a little higher ground was reasonably dry. Most of the bunkers well full of water and were out of play...the water in a couple of big  bunkers was so dirty and deep that I lost two balls.......still it was an easy walk with good company one of our local GP's 83 who is  still going strong and another PGC member the fourth guy didn't turn up.
While I hit the ball well it wasn't reflected in my score only 31 points.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Jun-24, 09:47 AM
My wife and I fulfilled our obligations by casting our votes at the pre polling station at 412 Old Cleveland Rd yesterday. This is a small shopping strip with limited parking but easy to find by the plethora of political candidates' corflutes on the footpath outside the venue. To gain entry we were faced with getting through the scrum of party workers handing out their how to vote material all of whom appeared to be on good terms with each other...no fights or arguments over space while we were there. Usually the how to vote workers aren't permitted within a prescribed distance of the polling place but in this case that option wouldn't work it's a very small space to begin with and with cars coming and going they had no other option.
Once inside an AEC official politely inquired if I was entitled to vote he didn't require me to explain why I couldn't make it on election day ...next there were three electorates Bonner Moreton and another all signed with lanes to enter to get checked off the roll and get the two ballot papers.
The house of reps was a simple one fill in all the squares but the Senate paper was at least a metre long and much too big to spread out in the confined space of the voting booth I opted for the easy way and voted on top of the line....it remains to be seen whether my vote will make any difference. :o

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Aug-07, 10:52 PM
Denis Smith reports the passing of long time and very successful harness racing trainer driver Keith Addison which reminds me that it was through me pointing him out to his future wife that they met for the first time  .....it was one early morning many years ago  I was at  Albion Park to watch a couple of my horses work....... I was standing near the stalls when his future wife who worked in the APHRC office asked me if I knew KA ...yes I said pointing that's him over there....and that was how the spark was lit and they got together.....from memory I think she predeceased Keith ...Jan or Jenny was her name.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Sep-03, 07:42 PM
I haven't been betting much lately ..sick of backing slow horses ...but the worm  turned today..... I stuck with Awesome Rock although the fixed odds taken $26/7.25 was well under tote odds...he's a great little trier this horse and very good ride by Stephen Baster although he did look to cause some interference coming around the turn ........haven't seen what if anything the stewards said.

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Post by: sobig on 2016-Sep-03, 08:21 PM
Baster out until 17th
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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Sep-21, 08:22 PM
Monday night at the AGM of the golf club turned out to be a bloodbath as far as the existing directors were concerned ...the incumbent President retired leaving a vacancy which two members contested..... one was already on the board the other an ordinary member ........the outsider won convincingly.....only the Treasurer was elected unopposed ..... the Captain who has been in office previously as Treasurer  and Captain for two years was voted off by a newcomer who won with a significant majority... despite his resume lacking  any punch......another long serving board member lost his position with three newcomers joining the only remaining member of the old board who topped the poll.

I'm not surprised some failed to get elected all candidates present a resume of their claims ..reading some you would be forgiven for  thinking  they were trying to convince the voters not to vote for them.

The bloodletting didn't stop with the election  ..notices of motion to change the Constitution submitted by the directors also failed the 75% requirement one was to extend the term from annual elections to two years on a rotational basis .....the other attempted to get the full members to vote in favour of  extending voting rights to 5 and 6 day members and associates...... this must have been the fifth or sixth time such a proposition has failed to get the 75% support necessary.

Strangely there was no argument advanced against the motion those opposed just voted it down .

There were around 100 voting members present and an unknown number of interested observers not entitled to vote .....another disappointment for them and those supporting the motion including my good self who favour giving everyone a vote.

 The Returning Officer reported 429 ballot papers were issued but only 216 were returned ..the rest couldn't be bothered.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Nov-04, 08:39 PM
I may have posted some of  this before but still it's something that stirs my spirit when the Melbourne Cup comes around.

The Argus – Wednesday 3 November, 1886
THE WINNING JOCKEY AND HIS HORSE.
The winning jockey, W. English, is able to make a chat about the winning horse and himself very interesting. English, who is only 19 years of age, and as modest as he is young, was born in Maitland, New South Wales, and being always fond of horses, he began a jockey's career about seven years ago in the stable of Mr. Scott, a local turf celebrity.

 At that time he was quite a feather weight, and scored his first win on Twilight, when he scaled only 3st. 10lb. After doing very well at Maitland, English travelled to make a living, and then attached himself to Mr. Raynor, trainer for Mr. Gannon, the owner of yesterday's Cup winner.

 The horse, it will be remembered, ran nearly last in last year's Melbourne Cup, although at that time backed for a large sum, and after this fiasco Arsenal was sold by Mr. Dakin to Mr. Gannon, who ran him only once in Sydney for the Christmas Gift, which he did not succeed in winning.

 It appears that the horse used to strike his heels, and after a good deal of trouble Mr. Raynor managed to remedy this defect, and put him into training for the Melbourne Cup. The horse was also entered for the Metropolitan, but was scratched for that event, and whether this was done to save him and keep him dark for the Melbourne Cup may be left to conjecture.

English says that Mr. Raynor found that the horse was not well at that time, but the ailment appears to have been so slight that it required a very astute trainer—and this is what the jockey credits Mr. Raynor to be—to discover it, and Arsenal's indisposition was never severe enough to throw him out of work.

His preparation for yesterday's race has been seven months in progress, and during all this time English rode him at his exercise. He also fed and watered him, and a very good understanding grew up between the pair. English thought Arsenal a " very honest fellow," and the colt always ran very kindly and did his best when his young mentor was on his back.

On Friday last the Melbourne Cup winner arrived from Sydney, and was put up at Morrison's stables at Newmarket. The next morning he only cantered after his journey, and on Monday he did the only approach to a trial which could have given the Melbourne touts a true idea of his quality. In this trial, however, he only did a mile with a plater, whose defeat could scarcely afford a " line " to go by, and the stable were able to give Arsenal this finishing touch and still keep their secret safe.

 There is no doubt that for twelve months the horse has been kept idle in the belief, which has been justified at last, that the Melbourne Cup would pay for his oats, and those who saw English ride the race will admit that a better selection for so important a task could not have been made.

Of the race itself English, whose victory has left him quite unassuming, says :—" On taking Arsenal out on the course I only gave him one short canter, but liked the way he was moving under me. He was going free and strong, and I knew that he had never been better in his life. I meant to ride a waiting race, and not bustle him along too fast at first. I was not told what to do, as Mr. Raynor always leaves me to ride a race according to my judgment.

I got a little nearer the rails than the centre of the field, between Lancer and Silvermine. On the fall of the flag I held Arsenal well in hand to settle him comfortably into his stride without bustling him. We dropped back gradually going up the straight past the grand stand and round the turn until going along by the river we were tenth or eleventh.

Then I took hold of Arsenal to push him a little closer up. I had the luck to get a clear run, and Arsenal went up so quick when I moved on him that at the abattoirs I stopped riding him, as we were third, and I thought that would do for a time. I let him go comfortably till coming into the turn into the straight, when I again took hold of him, and he went away with such a dash of foot that I thought we could win.

Hexham and Trident were the leaders. I sent Arsenal to catch them, and he collared Hexham in a few strides, and then Trident took Hexham's place and challenged us. I rode Arsenal hard for a little bit, and then eased off, for I had a short lead, and Hales was hard at work on Trident, who I knew had shot his bolt. I heard the whip cutting hard on his flanks, and there is no mistake about that. But when the race seemed all but won Trenton came up on Arsenal's flank, and then I did all I knew to stretch Arsenal to his top speed. I saw after going a few yards that Trenton was keeping stride for stride with Arsenal.

I could not get any farther away, and I was very glad he could not get any nearer. I was very glad to keep him where he was Arsenal did his best, as I knew he would. He was all out at the finish, and I don't think he will run in the V.R.C. Handicap on Saturday, for which he is entered. He was fit and well today, and is never likely to be a better horse than when he won the Cup.

 I won nothing by his win, but a gentleman came into the jockeys' room when I was taking off my boots after the race, and told
me to call at the Opera-house club rooms tonight, and I would get £50. I am not going in for the money, but if the gentleman has any principle he will take care that I get it."

The last big race that English won was the Hawksbury Stakes. He has been very successful in more races, but so far has not been well enough known on metropolitan courses to get a show with important mounts.

Unfortunately Billy English was killed in a race fall 10 years later leaving a wife and three children ,one of whom was my maternal grandmother.

Victoria Racing Club advised me that in the week prior to the 1886 Melbourne Cup, W English rode a double at Rosehill.
 
William ENGLISH  was killed whilst riding in an event on 1 October 1896. 
 
From death certificate of William ENGLISH died at the Western Suburbs Cottage Hospital, Enfield.  A Inquest was held and cause of death was "Concussion of the brain from injuries accidently received through being thrown from the racehorse Regalia whilst riding in a race at Cantebury Racecourse". Dated 15 October 1896 ."
 
W. English is named on the Fallen Jockeys Memorial at Caulfield racecourse.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2016-Dec-20, 07:06 AM
ABC TV last night Back Roads took us to Thursday Island which brought back memories of my visits there when I was a union representative the main employers then and now are the Federal and State guvments the people are very friendly but times have changed since my visit many years ago there's a football oval now which looks like it might be where the old bowls club was all those years ago.
I remember the place had two pubs the Federal and the Torres which weren't shown last night...... pity I would have liked to see the change in them if any...... on Fridays the Federal had bar snacks...... all the pubs did in those days usually peanuts or potatoes something not too expensive to encourage a thirst.....but in TI it was barramundi on the bar.

Pat Killoran aka (The Black Prince)a very imposing individual tall and strong and very determined  was head of the DAIA formerly Native Affairs and Bob Katter was the Minister .....they didn't get along the Union was persuaded to intervene...... the objective was to get rid of Katter so I made representations to the Premier Sir Joh  it backfired badly the outcome was he sided with Katter....... later after he retired Killoran stood for the Country Party or the Nationals for the seat but he wasn't successful.....Katter is still around but no longer one of  the Nationals running his own show..

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Post by: Arsenal on 2017-Feb-19, 08:40 AM
I had a game yesterday with a guy who told me he was runner up the week before with 42 points but was done over by another member who had 46 points...nothing unusual in that ...except this chap a new member who none of us had ever heard of was having his first game at the club was off 36 handicap the week before and parred the course in a stroke round reducing his handicap to 20.....his 46 points the following week indicated he played to 9 and he's gone from D grade to A grade in one week his new handicap is 8.

Questions are being asked.

After the AGM where a new broom swept out the old board...... apart from two who survived ...one has resigned after disagreement ...that's the rumour...couldn't get along with the new president...followed a few weeks later with another of the new breed spitting the dummy ..over what issues we are left to wonder...but the rumour mill is working overdrive....a personality clash.......now two new replacements have been installed ..one of whom had been a candidate at the last election but was unsuccessful...the second a mate of mine who is a very generous benefactor of the club over many years and has served in several capacities on the board or as it was then called the committee.....let's hope they can all get along....till the next election. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2017-Feb-27, 04:45 PM
I don't know what the problem is or was with the golf club board......but it's a concern to members with an unprecedented departure of the newly elected president....... who we are informed has resigned after a board meeting on Thursday night...and according to an insider one of the two newly appointed replacement directors has followed him out the door......this means the remaining 5 members have to find another two members to fill the vacancies.
After only a few months taking their seats in the board room they're now dropping like flies ...something is seriously wrong when almost half of the elected and subsequent appointees have resigned. :o

From all reports the club is performing well and the golf course is in excellent condition apart from some of the bunkers which need refurbishment when funds become available.

You would think that mature chaps should be prepared to tolerate each other even if there are disagreements over policies and get on with the job they were elected and promised  to do.


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Post by: Board Odds on 2017-Apr-13, 03:29 PM
It was a Great Era of racing the late 60's early/middle 70's in the Central West area of Queensland.

Some great Trainers, Jockeys, Horses and Characters.
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Post by: Board Odds on 2017-Apr-13, 03:45 PM
Great places those old pubs.  Central West Queensland, CQRA - It was a Great Era to grow up in and be around racing, was the late 60's and early/middle 70's. Some great Horses, Trainers, Jockeys and Characters!!

   I left home just before my 14th birthday and travelled out to Quilpie to work as a cowboy.

   When I got off the train I had been told to wander down to one of the pubs and book in and wait for the mail truck.   I had no idea on how big the country was and was thinking that Ray Station,where I was heading, was just down the road.
   Lady in the pub really looked after me with plenty of food and a compfy bed and the mail truck picked me up the next day.  Took the entire day to get out to Ray Station, it was that far away.

  Stayed out in the bush for nearly four years and mainly worked with horses from down Quilpie way right up to NT.  Might not have been a Uni education but I learnt things there that have helped in later life and never regretted it for a moment.
   The country pubs played a big part in my life in those days.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2017-May-26, 09:16 AM
Looking through  some early racebooks which just came into my hands  the oldest is from 1933 It’s a lot different today..this one is from the AJC  Summer meeting held on Boxing Day Tuesday 26th December 1933.
There were 7 races starting at 1.5pm and the last was due at 4.20 pm There’s no form provided nor are barrier draws....the book has the horse. owner ,breeding ,age and sex weight colours and trainer, space is provided to write the riders names.

The 7 races had a total of 107acceptors including 6 emergencies which were bracketed 22 were scratchings.

Darby Munro had 2 winners Winasian in the Trial h’cap carried 8.7 the race was worth150 quid to the winner 30 second and20 third .Darby’s other winner was Jacko in the Chisholm h’cap which was worth 330 pounds to the winner he covered the 6 furlongs in 1.12.5.

Other winning riders were O’Sullivan . Bartle, Cook,  Knox &  possibly Parr but unclear.The Summer Cup  worth 800 to the winner was won by Nord  trained by W Kelso.
 Darby was on Satmoth which was unplaced it was  trained by P Riddle who later trained champion Shannon the greatest certainty ever beaten in a major race when it lost 100 yards at the start to be beaten a half length or so by Blue legend...I think.?

The December Stakes was the main race worth a total of 1,300 pounds second 200 third 100 from the prize .....no fourth or rebates to unplaced runners nom and acceptance fees 1 pound if scratched 3 pounds if left in after 4pm and 13 pounds acceptance...... surprisingly the race attracted only 6 acceptors one of which was scratched and a number 7 was not named but was described as “Unlikely starter”owned by W A Ross’s Br g 2 by Rionscup (imp.)-Shiriya the race was won by Myra Tip, Ted Bartle.a 2yo filly by Tippler(imp.) she took 60.5 seconds to run the 5 furlongs .

Apart from race information the race book has results from recent meetings one from Victoria Park had a Brush hurdle won by Underwood ridden by Ted Mc Menamin carrying 10 stone2 lbs. Darby had a winner that day on Billo (late Atone).

Numerous information notices in the book one inviting patrons to open a credit account with the Tote to avoid taking large amounts of cash to the course with access to the Investment  room.

Correct weight was given by hoisting  a red flag .....green for protest (seems arse about )and if anyone got crook the doctor had to be on the lookout to notice the flag a white one  with a red cross ..doctor required in the casualty room.

Important notice stipulating Control of Queues if patrons  caught  pushing in or passing money or a ticket to someone else closer to the window or doing any other thing mentioned they became  liable to a 20 quid penalty.

There were bands in the Paddock DE Groen’s (Vice Regal with the RoyalSeal) Concert Band to keep the punters entertained  with 12 selections closing with  a sign “God Save The King”

In the St Leger reserve the Gallipoli Memorial Band did the honours play a different set of selections ..something for everyone to make the heart beat faster or tap the feet.

Then there were Traffic regulations almost 3 pages of where to go and what to do or what not to do and Tramway arrangements for the pedestrians without a horseless carriage.

Three pages of Totalisator information  plus General Information...  Cloak rooms ......where to find Racecourse Detectives 5 minutes after each race.... Catering arrangements Luncheon 11.30 to 2.30 for 3/6 .....or Afternoon Tea for 1/6....  Oysters for 2/- large plate or 1/6 small.

 Leger patrons got out a little cheaper just2/6 for lunch and only one bob for afternoon tea provided by Aearated Bread Co trading as Miss Bishop, caterers.

Finally a list of bookmakers and their stands a total of 87in the Paddock 113 in the leger and in the Flat another 135...some well known names from yester year Fred Angles in the Flat....reputedly one of the big punters in that era not sure if before or after bookmaking.... Les Tidmarsh in the Leger also O H Waterhouse while Jack Mandel was in the Paddock he raced Persian Lyric among others....lots of names I don’t recognise it was before most of us were born.

On the back page there are details of the Racecourses Admission Tax (Management)Act 1920 OIC signed by John T Lang under The Treasury gazette notice anyone caught gaining or attempting to gain admission without payment of the tax shall be guilty of an offence  and  on conviction be liable to a penalty not less than five and not exceeding fifty pounds.

Admission charges were 10/+3/2 tax for men and 5/- + 1/7 for ladies children 2/6 ...... the Leger only cost 2/10 for everyone children included ...no prices for the Flat must have been free..... the racebook cost 1/- that’s one shilling ..even bringing in your horse you had to pay as did floats based on the number of wheels.

Very interesting looking back in time...have a lot of others ...one 1936 Melbourne Cup book..... most are local QTC and BATC and more recent from around the late 1950's up to the mid 1980's one of my sons in law inherited them from his father and grandfather I suggested he contact the Racing Museum they might be interested in taking them.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2017-Jun-12, 07:55 PM
Driving home this afternoon I thought I was dreaming listening to a harness race from Fairfield which hasn't raced for yonks...but today was a special day the last race meeting to be run there after which the track closes for good........many years ago I  flew down to Sydney to a Parramatta Livestock harness horse sale and came home with  an unraced 2yo ....he turned out OK too I named him Aggressive...when he came into the sale ring Bobby Allen a local trainer with a big mouth told all and sundry this was the best young pacer at Fairfield trained by Colin Watts ......who has long since retired..at the time I thought "Thanks a lot Bobby " ...he didn't let on that the horse cross fired and it took some clever shoeing to get him right.

Pity tracks like Fairfield aren't in use these days........ they used to hold gymkhanas there on Sundays as well as other venues in the Sydney area always great ways to spend a Sunday afternoon in the days before the birth of the TAB's and 7 day and night racing.

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Post by: Colinjohn on 2017-Jun-12, 09:10 PM
Yes I have been to gymkhanas at Fairfield, Bankstown, Liverpool, Blacktown and Granville. When I was about 8 or 9 I can remember our family being driven to Menangle for a gymkhana when the mobile barrier was tested for the first time. The place was crowded and traffic very slow on old Hume Highway.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2017-Jun-13, 05:44 PM
Those black & white photos from  Fairfield in the newspaper story are terrific :no1:

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Post by: Colinjohn on 2017-Jun-15, 10:17 AM
The mobile barrier was first used at a registed meeting at Harold Park in November 1956. The race was won by Mineral Spring driven by Merv Adams.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2017-Jun-15, 07:04 PM
The mobile barrier was first used at a registed meeting at Harold Park in November 1956. The race was won by Mineral Spring driven by Merv Adams.
That was much earlier than when night trotting started at Albion Park the first race was won by Curly Adios trained by Sam Zammit I don't recall whether he drove it or whether it was young  Jim O'Sullivan......there was a mix of standing starts and mobiles......night racing attracted quite a few former NSW trainers and drivers to up stumps and come to Qld.....eventually the day tracks at Gold Coast and Redcliffe converted to night racing .......followed by Cairns and Townsville now apart from Albion Park only Redcliffe remains with the Gold Coast being resumed for other purposes..this is the legacy of successive QHRBs. :tears:


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Post by: dean on 2017-Jun-15, 07:16 PM
Sam Zammit drove Curly Adios to victory. What has happened to harness racing in Queensland is an absolute disgrace.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2017-Nov-22, 07:26 PM
I had a call last night on behalf of  Peter Russo the local member in view of Saturday's State election asking is there anything Peter Russo could do for me .."Well yes as a matter of fact I would like him to bring back Rocklea trots"......I said "No problem was the reply "
Russo is the ALP member for Toohey his electorate includes the Rocklea Showgrounds which is surrounded by Labor held electorates and due to the recent boundary changes we are now in Toohey while previously we were in Mansfield.
Rocklea was closed by the former QHRB and our appeal to the Racing Appeals Board fell on deaf ears......seeing the ALP guvment is promising millions to country race clubs surely they could throw a few crumbs to help the battlers in Rocklea and surrounding areas.,

The last race meeting conducted by the Metropolitan Harness Racing Club Rocklea was in July 25th 2009 last night I found an old You Tube video of the day it's not high quality but it's all there is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2XyBOIsxTE


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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Apr-25, 09:35 AM
Remembering the good old days when Racing was King generally only two meetings a week provincial on Wednesdays and Saturdays at Eagle Farm Doomben and occasionally Albion Park before the track was given over to Trotting...... Long before Corporates discovered OZ  in the 1960's and before this and for some years after there were bookies bookies everywhere shoulder to shoulder and back to back in three enclosures this is how many bookies lined up to shout the odds at Eagle Farm over the Queen's Birthday weekend in 62/63...I remember Merv Cooper RIP giving one lady her ticket and promising her "A new hat if it wins"...other times if paying out on a roughie he would ask  the lucky punter "How did you back that?" Bookies had character and bet up big in the Paddock......most if not all of those in the list are long gone and if they could see how forlorn the betting rings are today they would wonder how it all went wrong.

Today they're racing at Beaudesert In Qld once upon a time the QTC would never give up public holidays except for the May Day weekend when Doomben rabn the Labor Day meeting on the Monday holiday

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Post by: gunbower on 2018-Apr-25, 10:31 AM
Arsenal it just shows (yet again ) the depths to which Queensland Racing has plummeted under a series of Governments from both political persuasions. Sydney has metro racing Today at Randwick while Melbourne conducts the VRC St Leger meeting at Flemington. The highlight in Queensland is a riveting benchmark 75 at  Beaudesert. Time someone turned off the lights.
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Post by: arthur on 2018-Apr-25, 11:58 AM
It doesn't seem so long ago, when every provincial city with a racetrack conducted a sold-out Anzac Day meeting

The races were followed up by a huge 'swy' game

The pubs were all 'closed' in the morning . . but actually did a roaring trade from after the Dawn Parade

One publican up this way (a returned man) provided finger food for the public, and free drinks for the local pipe band to entertain. The band would adjourn to the main morning parade, and then return till lunchtime, before heading off to the track, to do it all over again

The 'Good Ol' Days' . . for sure
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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Apr-26, 05:37 PM
Last time I went to Beaudesert races ...it was many years ago...there was a two up game after the races out in front of the Veresdale Hotel it was run by a couple of toughs ......one of whom I used to see conducting mock auctions in a vacant shopfront in Queen St .......until the cops swooped and the crowd dispersed.......one of the cops was Det Sgt Patrick Glancy who featured some years later in various crime reports and the Fitzgerald Inquiry if my memory serves me correctly.

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Post by: gunbower on 2018-Apr-26, 06:48 PM
Arsenal, never forget a famous photograph of the time of Glancy arresting Senator George Georges during a demonstration during the Bjelke Peterson era in Queensland politics. The particularly poignant image of that photograph was of the late Tom Uren also being escorted by Queensland Police. To a young bloke like myself at the time it didn't portray this Country in a very fashionable light when you considered that Uren was an ex prisoner of war in Changi and yet here he was being man handled by the police service for protesting about something which he all but gave his life for this Country about.
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Post by: arthur on 2018-Apr-26, 06:51 PM
'Mock Auctions' . . 'Dutch Auctions' . .

I'd forgotten all about them  :sad:

The modern generation will never experience these . . and no doubt would scratch their heads if they were explained to them



But, if we got sucked into those, it's no wonder so many of the 'baby-boomers' fall prey to computer scams


And regarding the Fitz Inquiry . .

An old bookie (SP and on-course) told me that there was: "Enough corruption in this place for five Fitzgerald Inquiries, and they've only got one for the whole of Queensland . . "

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jun-15, 12:08 PM
The Lyceum Hotel at the end of Eagle Street in Longreach has been burned to the ground ...media reports that the hotel was empty at the time and was on the market for sale...looks like a torch job on the limited information so far....... In my Union  job I had been to Longreach a few times.... many years ago..... the QGTB the Tourist Bureau always did my bookings and on arrival I was booked into the Lyceum Hotel......the Clerk of the Court told me it was a shearers' pub and I'm likely to find I'll be sharing a room with some strangers .. get out of there was his advice .......he rang the Commercial Hotel and booked a room for me there ...I retrieved by belongings from the Lyceum.... no questions asked ......and apart from the noise it was an uneventful stop over ..in the course of which I met the local AWU Secretary and we had a few drinks and exchanged stories.....for the life of me I can't remember his name but he was an old guy ..a lot older than me......he put me on the mailing list for The Worker the AWU newspaper....but it's long gone.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/landmark-queensland-pub-gutted-by-fire-20180615-p4zll6.html

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jun-18, 09:40 AM
I had lunch on Friday with an old racing mate who has an extensive library on all racing codes and I came away with (the loan of )one of his treasured books on harness racing by the now deceased Raymond Lowndes called "From KEDRON to ALBION PARK" A Pictorial History of Trotting In Queensland 1880-1968" Book Two covers the period 1950 to 1968.....it's massive historical record 617 pages and so far I'm up to 197.

Many of the trainers drivers administrators are known to me although my interest in harness racing only started when night trotting started in Brisbane in 1968.
One old mate of mine Bernie Higgins who lived in a house on Logan Rd Holland Park when I knew him had a long history in trotting starting on the show circuit as did all the others then engaged in trotting gets an extensive cover of his doings some of which were a revelation to me..... Bernie never mentioned his grounding in thoroughbred racing but as Raymond reveals Bernie Higgins rode racehorses track work at Canterbury as a teenager.....he was a strapper of Dark Marne when it won the Doomben Cup returning to Sydney Bernie worked for Ted Hush a top Sydney trainer.

Bernie rated Hydrogen which he broke in as the best horse in the stable at the time.....Pride of Egypt was another top class horse .......but his biggest thrill in life was to lead in Russia after it won the Melbourne Cup...I remember drawing Russia in our school boy sweep that year at St James in the Valley. Russia was sired  by Excitement out of Lady March Red Brown Sash  ridden by the incomparable Darby Munro. 

Bernie was 74 when he passed away in 2001  :rip:

Amongst all the characters mentioned Alf Merson who  lived a 7 iron away from our first home in Holland Park West later renamed Tarragindi his house and stables are still there but the jogging track is no more part of the M1 Freeway......lots of memories of the early days still to be revived.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-04, 07:45 PM
Watching the TV series First Dates on Monday night  was an interesting experience..unfortunately for the participants  the persons who select supposedly compatible couples rarely get it right...... this week most of the couples seemed to enjoy the evening lots of smiles and jokes..... one couple who appeared to be suited even danced a version of the salsa...after the meal the couples were interviewed and while most if not all expressing a desire to have a second date it appears that it in most cases there are changes of mind....and there's no reunion .....in this last episode a very presentable female jockey named Laura was matched with a landscape gardener who was most enthusiastic in meeting such a beautiful potential partner......while he was a nice enough looking fellow  it might  have helped had he had even a basic knowledge of racing but he failed to impress Laura which by his reaction was a massive disappointment for him ......very forthright young lady  Laura said she didn't think they were suited...a very wise decision IMO Laura can do much better and I hope she finds someone who will make her happy. :heart: 

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Post by: arthur on 2018-Jul-04, 09:02 PM
You obviously don't think that these 'reality' shows are scripted . .

Sadly, I am a skeptic . . which spoils much of the fun in my life, I know . . and I even harbour grave concerns about 'The Chase'

BTW . . I probably shouldn't comment on "Fur States" as I have never watched it . . but I am sure it would be an "interesting experience"  :beer:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-05, 09:52 AM
You obviously don't think that these 'reality' shows are scripted . .

Sadly, I am a skeptic . . which spoils much of the fun in my life, I know . . and I even harbour grave concerns about 'The Chase'

BTW . . I probably shouldn't comment on "Fur States" as I have never watched it . . but I am sure it would be an "interesting experience"  :beer:

It'll be more interesting Arthur if you were  a 20 something and looking for love  :lol:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-05, 09:56 AM
I’m about 2/3 of the way through Raymond Lowndes ‘  excellent book on Harness Racing History called “From Kedron To Albion Park”1880-1968 it’s full of stories of what  life was like before night trotting started in Qld at Albion Park.....and lots of pictures ....a very good read..... I’m trying to locate Book 1 but so far without any success.

We know Standardbreds are tough as  there’s tales of horses pulling a milk cart around the streets during the week and saddling up at a show or gymkhana on the weekend often racing twice on the same day. ...it wasn’t uncommon for horses to be loaded on a freight train to race that day a few hundred miles away and back home that night....and back to pulling the milk cart on Monday.

Many  trainers and drivers grew up the hard way having a horse or two as a hobby and doing everything themselves .In the early days  following the show circuit gave many the opportunity and experience to compete on the registered tracks for very small reward..... horses were cheap  in those times.... those on their marks down south were brought up here to be sold where they could earn their keep.

When night trotting started  in Brisbane in 1968 the track was packed 17,000 through the gates and  we saw an influx of southern horsemen who decided life is great in the Sunshine State and they settled here and many would have made a good living. Curly Adios driven by Sam Zammit won the first race under lights at Albion Park on 7th September 1968....other winners  were Princess Thor,Stormy Water,Hamilcar Chief,Froggie’s Choice, Morris Power and Chev Vonne...winning drivers Sam Zammit,Peter Mawby, Doug Coy, Ned Coleman , Alf Merson, Peter Wombwell and Alf Phillis.

While most of the characters in the book have long since gone there are many  names of trainers that  I knew and were friends with. I’ve always found trotting people to be very welcoming , generous and good company.

One of my old trotting acquaintances who I haven’t seen for yonks since he relocated interstate is quoted in the book as having confessed that  he had lots of help and advice along the way since starting out but the best advice he received which he never forgot came from an older and more experienced trainer/driver who told him “You’ve got to get a quid ....get it as honest as you can, but get it “

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-06, 08:51 AM
 Recently a couple of weeks ago  following a news report of  fire destroying the lyceum Hotel at Longreach I recalled  meeting the local district secretary of the AWU at the time I could picture his face but I couldn't remember his name...now  its come back  to me ..Alf Cain was his name ..my memory is back...better later than never :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-13, 08:11 PM
At golf today hit a wayward drive off the tee on the 6th left into the trees parallel to Pine Mountain Rd usually it's not too difficult to chip one out from there but today I had the misfortune to find the ball in a plover's nest with both birds very aggressive......luckily one of my partners was able to retrieve the ball without being attacked and I finished with a bogey...plovers are a nuisance on the golf course they build their nests on the ground and will attack if approached....... the best advice I've found  is don't make eye contact...also ran into Quade Cooper who was ahead of us he said it's a big match tomorrow for Souths that's where some of my grandsons play I wished him well....he plays fairly regularly at Pacific only has to train play in the club games on saturdays and gets paid high six figures.
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Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jul-13, 09:27 PM
At golf today hit a wayward drive off the tee on the 6th left into the trees parallel to Pine Mountain Rd usually it's not too difficult to chip one out from there but today I had the misfortune to find the ball in a plover's nest with both birds very aggressive......luckily one of my partners was able to retrieve the ball without being attacked and I finished with a bogey...plovers are a nuisance on the golf course they build their nests on the ground and will attack if approached....... the best advice I've found  is don't make eye contact...also ran into Quade Cooper who was ahead of us he said it's a big match tomorrow for Souths that's where some of my grandsons play I wished him well....he plays fairly regularly at Pacific only has to train play in the club games on saturdays and gets paid high six figures.
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Did you take a shot penalty for your mate getting your ball back?
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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-14, 09:46 AM
No...but  it's an interesting question taking relief from danger.
 I'll look up the rules there's bound to be a decision burrowing animals is one phrase I can remember .

Fore.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-19, 07:40 PM
I'm getting towards the end of Raymond Lowndes historical record of harness racing in Qld and finding out about the trainers and drivers who made a living following the shows some would put a hurricane lamp under the sulky and travel to meetings returning at night hence the need for the hurricane lamp others would travel by train to and fro on the same day while others would race several times a day at shows or registered meetings....... once night trotting started at Albion Park this racing at two venues wasn't permitted.

One racehorse trainer I came across in my early days of never missing a Saturday meeting in town was Kevin Wallen who came from down Wynnum way ..... I never knew he was involved  in trotting until I read about him in the book  ..on the way to the races he collected bundles of thistles and they were wrapped in a hessian bag in the race day stalls.....one horse I recall he turned from a rogue into a winner Campere using a sulky to quieten the horse ...we got  the tip one day at Eagle Farm waiting for the bookies to put up the prices on Campere 20/1 and it won....I had a feeling Doug Messingham was apprenticed to Kev Wallen but I may be wrong.

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Post by: gunbower on 2018-Jul-19, 08:28 PM
You are quite right Arsenal. Kevin Wallen was one of our better known "money " trainers in the 1960's and 70's and Doug Messingham was definitely apprenticed to him at some time. Though I think Messingham also may have been apprenticed to others including Harry Hatten at various times. Messingham himself seemed to gravitate to other betting stables such as Alf Sands at the Gold Coast and later on to the notorious George Way yard.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-20, 06:17 PM
I'm still finding things about trotting that I hadn't heard before........ I only took an interest in 1968 when night trotting began at Albion Park.....by reading Raymond Lowndes book From Kedron to Albion Park (Book 2) I found this intriguing passage about a ring in at Rocklea in 1963......this is the story.

Way back in 1963 there was a ring in at Rocklea involving the same horse..... Raymond Lowndes wrote in his book that a well performed Sydney pacer Glendale Rex was substituted for Carol Mead on two occasions the 30th March and 13th April 1963 winning by big margins and starting at 2’s on  both days.

The first day the margin was 15 lengths from Master Field while the second win was by 12 lengths off a handicap of 12yards.
 
Raymond wrote “ Swift action by Chief Steward Jack Gregg  resulted in two southern drivers receiving LIFE. It was stated in the evening press a few days later that the carcass of the real Carol Mead was found along with another unidentified horse burning at the property of a local owner ...who claimed innocence but was charged under Rule 114 and outed for 6 months .Police inquiries continued with further action taking place some months later.”

Unfortunately that’s all the details provided in the book.

Wanting to find out who was involved and what if any criminal charges were brought I searched newspapers archives where I  located a report in the SMH dated 17th May 1963 which identified one Alan James Thompson a well known owner ,trainer and driver as being disqualified for life on the Tuesday.

The paper reported that Thompson had booked stabling for 9 horses with Redcliffe trainer Pat Sharry  two of which were found dead in mysterious circumstances on 24th April 1963

Police were endeavouring to locate Thompson to assist in their investigation his address was given as Oakdale Knackery, Eastern Creek NSW. I haven’t been able to identify the second “southern driver receiving LIFE” or the outcome of any police charges against Thompson or the other person.

The SMH reports that Thompson bolted with the cops in hot pursuit ......surprisingly  leaving 6 horses behind with all his gear and late model panel van at Pat Sharry’s Redcliffe stables.

A later report  in the SMH quotes Detective Sargent J J Ryan giving evidence in the Brisbane Police Court  on charges of Fraud on the Rocklea trotting club by Thompson 42 at Eastern Creek together with a horse dealer Anthony Zammit 49 of Eastern Creek who sold Carol Mead (Mede in this report) to Thompson.

 Zammit told DS Ryan Thompson told him he had another horse which looked the same and he could win a lot of money if he came to Brisbane.

Zammit did come and admitted he backed the horse when it ran second..he said Carol Mead cost him a lot of money(getting beaten )

The hearing was to continue on Friday but as yet I haven’t located any report on how it finished although it would be a surprise if both escaped conviction.

At the time of this trial police had taken possession of the horse Glendale Rex as Carol Mead had earlier been reported as dead with another unidentified horse possibly on Pat Sharry’s place but that’s just a guess.

Hopefully RQ will have former QTCL files which will reveal the outcome of this case.


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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Jul-20, 07:49 PM
Very frustrating trying to find the result of fraud charges against the ring in organisers nothing in the CM which is a surprise SMH already quoted and The Age covered the story on 10th July 1963 .
The Age reported of a police line up of 23 horses similar in appearance at the Oxley Police establishment a person named Daniel Joseph Ingram identified the black gelding Glendale Rex from amongst the herd of 23........ he called out the name Rex and the horse came out of the yard on its own so identity established ....case closed you would think.

Glendale Rex (Carol Mead orMede) was obviously something to bet on in its Rocklea races..... evidence was it held the 9 furlong record at Harold Park ......... At Rocklea it started off scratch  the first run and 12yds the second ...........when properly handicapped under its real name it would have been off 120 yards behind.

Evidence from a Bruce Davison of Eastern Creek told the court he sold the horse to Zammit at a Parramatta Livestock sale for 60 guineas and  Thompson bought it for 75 pounds  although the report states it was leased from Zammit to Thompson . The NSW TC Registrar told the court Carol Mede had been cleared to race in Qld but no clearance had been issued for Glendale Rex .....the hearing continues.

That's as far as I can take it tonight.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Aug-02, 07:13 PM
I've reached the end of Raymond Lowndes book on the history of harness racing in Qld and I'm waiting on advice from the State Archives on what decision the Police Court made on the ring in organisers .......they would have to get time if the court was fair dinkum .  I found an interesting chapter on a man named Les Edwards who grew up with horses on a property in Villawood in NSW .When his father died Les was only 15 and too young to be licensed but being urged by his mother he went to an Inglis sale in Sydney and bought an unraced mare 4yo named Sarafran for 50 guineas.

Once he got her ready to race  his uncle advised him he needed to put it a mature person's name to be eligible to start in a race so he took that on board and registered the horse in the name of the fellow his uncle suggested. Now that was fixed  the false owner /trainer entered the horse in a race at Cowra. Les and his jockey put the horse in a horse box and travelled by train to the track but Sarafran didn't jump when the barrier strands were released. After a quick course in barrier manners from the old clerk of the course Les lined her up on the following Monday and she led all the way.
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A few weeks later the fictitious owner/trainer who Les had trusted to do the right thing claimed to be the horse's rightful  owner and Les was called before the AJC to please explain .After telling the stewards his age he was promptly told to leave and that was his first lesson in the school of hard knocks.

Sarafran never responded to the new owner's training and never ran even a place so in a sense justice was done.

In 1950 Les Edwards would have been 21 he attended  a charity auction where he put his hand up and  bought the pacer Minton's Wish for 50 quid  and that was the start of a very successful career in harness racing winning numerous races in NSW and in Qld.  In 1989  he retired from trainer/driving and was appointed  to the  NSW Trotting Tribunal on which he served for 6 years. About the same time he went back to thoroughbreds winning  many races with Ribobelle and Silver Streak which won 15 races one at Doomben ridden by Chris Munce.

An interesting character Les Edwards.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Aug-29, 07:18 PM
Thanks to the diligent library staff at the Public Library I now know the fate of Alan James Thompson and Anthony Zammit both of NSW who were charged with fraud against the Rocklea Trotting Club in 1963 by substituting the better performed Glendale Rex for the moderate Carol Meade ........QTCL Chief Steward Jack Gregg gave evidence that in one race the ring in GR started off scr when its real handicap should have been 130 yards...Thompson  was sentenced to 6 months by Judge Taylor while Zammit was discharged after Crown Prosecutor Bob Bavington issuing a nolle prosceui.


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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Nov-12, 03:44 PM
A suggestion if I may dear Arsenal.

Why not copy and post in the default font and save your emblematic red for your own contribution?

Sometimes I find  it difficult to determine where fact finishes and your opinion begins.

Just a thought.






Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Nov-12, 05:53 PM
A suggestion if I may dear Arsenal.

Why not copy and post in the default font and save your emblematic red for your own contribution?

Sometimes I find  it difficult to determine where fact finishes and your opinion begins.

Just a thought.



Thanks for your interest  but I wish to point out that I separate pasted articles by inserting the word ENDS after the pasted bit  followed by my comment or opinion .......I love RED.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Nov-12, 07:14 PM
I separate pasted articles by inserting the word ENDS after the pasted bit  followed by my comment or opinion

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Not so  but I'll leave you to it.

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: timw on 2018-Nov-12, 07:42 PM
Arsenal - keep up the good work (and many others including some we might hate or find irrelevant!.

PS I can't believe racenet is subject to a takeover - has nothing like the content on this site - I know some of us might hate other's comments but this is what makes it the best - and no advertisers to suck up to (at least as far as i know! )

PPS - arsenal  - last friday i hit a 10 metre shot from under a tree across a bunker to miss the flag stick by an inch only to trickle into another bunker full of water and couldn't see my ball. I suppose 'not enough backspin' but then i am not tiger woods.  I didn't know it was full of water as it hadn't rained for several days - lost ball as water was so cloudy and deep - so unfair.

I still beat me my 'fellow competitor'

Cheers 
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Nov-12, 08:55 PM
Well said Tim. I stopped looking at Racenet ages ago. It is just propaganda for their advertisers and backslappers.. Nothing remotely concerned with journalism.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jan-04, 06:28 PM
Played golf today with a new member very nice young guy only 16yo still at school plays off a handicap of 1 hit the ball a mile had 12pars but only 2 birdies just missed several others.
I reckon he has a bright future nothing upset him very steady, calm temperament not like many other single figure guys I've played with over the years who have temper tantrums after a poor shot or unlucky putt.
He finished with 34 points not enough to win but he did collect a NTP which is some consolation very enjoyable day just the two of us.

On the way home I heard a couple of harness races on the car radio a couple of runners by Rock N Roll Hanover ...reminded me of old time acquaintance  Rock N Roll George who lived in West End where I was born ...George Speakis was his name ...he cruised around town in his cream Holden usually alone and became famous 50 years ago known as  Rock N Roll George he would often park in Queen St outside  where the old Grand Central Hotel was .which is  long gone ...now it's the Queen St Mall no cars...George worked in a wholesale warehouse somewhere in the City  and did me a favour getting me a cost price Gladstone Bag when I worked in a dead end job at Olympic Tyres in the Valley ....when George passed away his Holden was preserved as a museum piece...a memory of a time long gone.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: gunbower on 2019-Jan-04, 08:25 PM
Arsenal , I too remember George when I was flogging raffle tickets in Queen Street as a kid. There were some rumours /innuendo about him as I remember. Maybe they were nothing but I guess I never knew. I found your summary of the manners of the young golfer very interesting. Probably about 10 years ago at a local course I came across a young fellow with a pretty similar temperament. He goes ok- his name is Cameron Smith ; and he doesn't pack into any scrums.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jan-06, 07:34 PM
Cameron Smith is a wonderful talent if the 16yo I met turns out anywhere his ability it would make his dream of being a pro golfer come true.
As for Rock n Roll George I always found him pretty harmless something of a curious character doing laps around Queen St in his Holden trying to pick up chicks mainly if not exclusively without any luck....as far as I know.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jan-17, 02:09 PM
I'm laid up for the next few days no golf until next Wednesday ....have to rest my left leg after having a melanoma removed yesterday...get the results on Monday surgeon is confident it's all gone ..this is the third level 4 I've had ....the previous one was in November rated a 1.1 on a scale different to the one that rates them from 1 to4 I don't remember what name it goes by..... this one came back as 1 after it was curetted a week ago ....so to fill in time apart from watching TV I'm reading The Ruddster's book ..."Kevin Rudd..the PM years" hard going at times and I'm only up to the assassination or coup as he describes it by the plotters Joolya Swan Arbib Farrell Burke and some lesser lights he doesn't miss them ......destabilizing a guvment in secret.... plotting his downfall against all traditions of the Westminster system only to advance their own political interests and careers....at the caucus meeting he called to determine the leadership all present gave him a standing ovation ..the plotters included ...treacherous buggers these pollies...stabbing him in the back then applauding his farewell speech...little did they know some time in the future it would be his turn to turn the tables on Joolya..I haven't got there yet.

The story The Ruddster's version runs to 607 pages the endnotes detailing all the reference material takes up 40 pages while the Index runs for 6 pages back to back a total of 652 pages cover to cover.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: arthur on 2019-Jan-17, 03:01 PM
I'm reading one about Winx  :huh:
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jan-20, 03:52 PM
Our old home is on the market the salesman has a dip in the pool to finish off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_WaXqzPzg

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: timw on 2019-Jan-20, 07:27 PM
I have been to all capitals other than Darwin and I never got Brisbane real estate wise even though I went there a bit.  According to one website the last sale was $154,000 in 1996 and it is on 761sqm.  Looking at the 1996 photo it had one garage - perhaps photographer didn't catch the front well?  Its funny (strange) that if this place was in a middle ring suburb in Melbourne  with no heritage overlay it would almost certainly be bulldozed 
 and be replaced by a 50-60 square 2 story monster built to the back fence (on a similarly sized block) possibly with a basement and a lift depending on the budget. That's the new Melbourne. 

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jan-21, 08:58 AM
Tim I confirm the house was sold for that price I thought it was 1994 but probably 1996 is correct it would be from guvment records...it was built by the QHC in 1961  it cost 3750 pounds in those days I was earning about 15 quid a week... the house had two garage doors the same as shown in the current profile we raised the house and built in under in the 70's...landscaped the yard and installed the pool . .the current owners have renovated extensively installed the front deck and did a very good job overall....  I expect it'll go quickly although there's no yard to speak of for kids and the pool was a money muncher salt water chlorine but still looks in pristine condition......lots of older homes in the suburb have been renovated or replaced by modern structures some more appealling than others......currently there's a unit complex under construction on the way to the golf club made of prefabricated concrete blockswhich look  like old war time bomb shelters all installed by crane ...it looks like a monstrosity only half finished .

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Feb-17, 10:48 AM
The BRC's decision to rely on the Liquor Act banning Ben Currie from Doomben and Eagle Farm seems extreme based on the provisions which allow licensed premises the right to remove and ban unruly or intoxicated patrons from their premises......I'm guessing none of which would apply to Ben Currie...while he was banned his horses were not ..that was a decision the BRC couldn't change....some time ago the golf club took action against two members both removed from the clubhouse after an incident after a club competition on a Saturday ..one received a one month ban .....and is since back playing and behaving hisself.......the other was hit with an unspecified indefinite ban and is still excluded ...that was months ago ......... the Club could have exercised the disciplinary provisions in the constitution in the second case which would have given the club the right to impose specified sanctions on him and in the event of serious penalties which from what I have heard of his behaviour the most serious sanctions would likely apply.......if so  he would have the opportunity to appeal to the full membership...who would decide to confirm or dismiss or amend the board's decision ...as it stands this guy has lost his membership privileges cannot enter the clubhouse or the golf course and cannot play golf ..what he has done or intends to do is not known to me ...he is still on the outer .......so Ben Currie although treated unfairly IMO still retains his right to train .....almost a double at Doomben yesterday and with runners at Toowoomba last night I haven't checked the results....he has legal issues to finalise one next Friday will be crucial tohis future.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Feb-26, 06:44 PM
I've just finished reading a very good book ..paperback fiction set in Sydney ...by Richard Beasley SC the same RB who sits on Racing NSW's racing appeal panel ..his book  "The Burden Of Lies" is a  fascinating story of crime, corruption, murder, relationships and betrayal culminating in a jury trial of his client......the main character is Peter Tanner a criminal lawyer has a way with words...lots of quotable quotes..well worth reading if you like a good yarn .

SMH review "Up there with the best of those legal eagles on page and screen ....A cracking read."


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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Feb-27, 08:16 PM
I had a game of golf today with a guy I've not met before.... he said he usually plays in the morning field that's probably why I haven't run into him before ..... A very big hitter off the tee but his short game isn't in tune with his driving distance ....neither of us played well.
Darryl is his name  and he was very  good company.....  most enjoyable to play with...very laid back we enjoyed a chat and a joke. He told me He's a boilermaker and works in the mines has 4 days on 4 days off and is a member of the AMWU.

This reminded me of one of my old mates Jack Egerton who I came to know well through his son Ron .Jack was a boilermaker by trade and was head of the Qld Trades and Labor Council as well as President of the QCE the Labor Party.....he was knighted for his contributions to society but it never changed him he was always just Jack to his friends although his knighthood did lead to some well remunerated appointments QANTAS was one I remember
.
Many years ago in the early years of night trotting Ron Egerton and I were on the committee of the forerunner of today's BOTRA ..... I don't recall its name only that it was a representative body for the harness racing participants.........we arranged a deputation to the then racing minister Bill Knox to convince him to appoint some industry representatives to  the QHRB ....from a list of names we gave him ......Sir Jack Egerton and Ian Wylie QC later a judge were both appointed to the harness board...sadly they are no longer with us.

My other connection to the AMWU was my very first  case as an industrial advocate  in 1964 or 1965 before a Full Bench of the State  Industrial Commission ...it was an application based on comparative wage justice.... the like with like argument for fixing wages ..which was the path to success in those days  ....I argued for a flow on of increases awarded under the Metal Trades Award  to  our members employed under Part vi of the Public Service Award –State.......this followed a  decision in the Federal Arbitration Commission  brought by the Metal Worker's Union resulting in  a massive increase of two pounds two and six a week .....it was a winning result for us but not to the full extent claimed......we usually faced strong opposition from the PSC and seldom got what we asked for..there were no sweetheart deals in my time.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: gunbower on 2019-Feb-27, 08:52 PM
Arsenal,  Plenty of memories with your story. Do you remember the outcry when the strong Labor man, Jack Egerton accepted the knighthood. It was totally abhorrent to the principles and history of the Labor Movement. I , for one , think it tarnished his reputation within the Party forever.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Feb-28, 11:12 AM
Arsenal,  Plenty of memories with your story. Do you remember the outcry when the strong Labor man, Jack Egerton accepted the knighthood. It was totally abhorrent to the principles and history of the Labor Movement. I , for one , think it tarnished his reputation within the Party forever.
I do gunbower and you're right Labor disowned him...very unforgiving of some not so others...... I particularly recall Gough Whitlam referring to him as "Sir Toby Belch"  on his knighthood to make it worse it was a Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen action by which HM graciously doffed Jack......Gough conveniently forgot it was Jack Egerton through Tom Burns who saved his leadership while the great man ..who I admire....but not his disrespectful comments about Jack....was sitting outside the Federal ALP conference room awaiting a verdict onhis leadership from "the faceless men" that vote orchestrated by Jack Egerton saved Whitlam's bacon so the story goes.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: gunbower on 2019-Feb-28, 07:59 PM
Very true Arsenal. There is no question Egerton did some great things for the party : especially in regard to reform of the ALP Conference. Sadly though his legacy, like others such as Hughes , Lyons , Gair etc will always be of one who sold out his values for his own personal betterment . I think the depth of feeling amongst "The True Believers " was even more severe because of the involvement of Bjelke -Petersen whom I think is probably one of the most reviled  political leaders to Labor Party people in the history of this Country. Naturally I exempt P Beattie from those comments.
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Mar-03, 10:15 PM
Luck's a fortune .....good luck that is...we all have a share of bad luck...I had no luck at all on Friday at golf ..hit a nice tee shot I thought until it curved into the rough on the left hand side of the 8th ...this is a photo I took on my phone...slap bang up a great big gum tree...had to take an unplayable lie which ruined the hole.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Lq3GBRkQ/20190301-122829.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Lq3GBRkQ)

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Mar-14, 08:38 PM
Thanks to R.Ackland editor of Justinian " A reasonable doubt for a reasonable price"  I've discovered the writing talents of Richard Beasley SC who heads the RNSW appeals panel ...I 've just finished his brilliant novel "Me and Rory MacBeath "   he has a few more to his credit which I hope to pick up "Hell Has Harbour Views" was on ABC TV but no longer available on iview I might get lucky and find the DVD......another one yet to arrive at my humble abode is "Cyanide Capers" a Peter Tanner fiction...and I have had no luck in trying to find "The Ambulance Chaser"

Highly recommended reading the two I've read.  :king:


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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Apr-08, 10:29 PM
I've just finished watching Season 1 of After Life a black comedy on Netflix with Ricky Gervais in the leading role only 6 episodes a few laughs and Ricky is at his irritating best for most of the episodes still well worth a look if you can tolerate Ricky's form of comedy.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8398600/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-May-05, 05:20 PM
Clubs’ digital death sentence
DARREN CARTWRIGHT

FORTITUDE Valley and the CBD have become a graveyard for clubs with the long-established Public Service Club the latest victim and one of more than 160 venues to close statewide in the past decade.

Members voted unanimously last month to wind up the 55-year-old entity – just 12 months after it re-opened in its new Tank St location. It was forced to relocate from its William St base because of the $3.6 billion Queen’s Wharf development.

Liquidator Peter Lucas, of P A Lucas and Co, said the demise of the Public Service Club was not only the end of an era but the last of its kind in Australia.

“It’s been around for 50 odd years or so and it’s the last public service club to close its doors in Australia,” Mr Lucas said. The Public Service Club sits alongside the Irish Club and Brisbane Polo Club as the more notable venues within the CBD to bite the dust in recent years.

Clubs Queensland chief executive Doug Flockhart said he was saddened, but not surprised by the news and doubts if any small venue can survive in the Valley or the heart of Brisbane. “This club was challenged by being in the CBD, no different to the Irish Club, because of consumer choices,” Mr Flockhart said.

“The CBD and Fortitude Valley for the club business, except for private clubs like the Queensland Club and Tatts, the writing has been on the wall for some time.

“I’m saddened by it, but not surprised, and it comes back to the fact the public service has changed as well and people are time poor.”

Former Public Service Club vice president Matthew Donaghue said the Tank St location was far from ideal.

It was positioned well away from its membership base at the top end of George St and that, combined with a 15 month delay between vacating William St and re-opening, worked heavily against it.

“The relocation to Tank St did not work. Simple,” he said.

“It will be missed, but economically it has become another memory of what Brisbane had and has lost.”

Smaller clubs, like the Public Service Club, are on notice, said Mr Flockhart. He said the rise of online bookmakers, the increasing popularity of Uber Eats and tighter smoking regulations have worked heavily against local clubs in recent years. Wagering on horse racing can all be done from home, Mr Flockhart said.

ENDS

The original  State Service Club opened in the basement of the QSSU premises in 67 Elizabeth St Brisbane  in 1966....and existed at that site at least until 1987 when the club celebrated it's 21st Anniversary.........in 1963 or thereabouts construction started to expand the old building by erecting a three story structure on the vacant land at the rear of the premises resulting in refurbishing  the union offices a new conference hall and the State Service Club....  when I started working for the QSSU in 1963 our office consisted of two rooms and a conference hall with a couple of shops..... a luncheonette and a news agent tobacconist with a barber shop at street level .....  P J Bredhauer was QSSU General Secretary at the time and I was on the bottom rung of the ladder behind him and T J Wallace the Industrial officer .... PJB sought advice from Joe Borsallino as to how to go about establishing the club facilities...... the first manager was "Major" Booth his wife an accomplished chef ran the kitchen...it was very popular with the members very convenient for those located at the top end of town in the government precinct ..but too far away from those elsewhere....certain members of the press were regular patrons Max Jessop a great patron and exceptional journalist is one I remember fondly ...the building eventually  was sold to Seymour Developments and the Public Service Club was relocated to premises leased by the State.....and now it is no more.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-May-07, 08:14 PM
I ran into a guy I know yesty  whose a barrister-at- law works for the DPP prosecutes crooks ....told him "I saw you had a big win the other day got quite a write up in the paper' ..he replied "Well yes it was a win but hard to lose a case when he pleaded guilty"

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-May-15, 05:59 PM
I've just finished reading Richard Beasley's second novel The Ambulance Chaser the story is built around a disbarred barrister who investigates suspicious deaths of claimants who face significant compensation from a monopolistic insurance company ........a very engaging story with numerous characters all set in Sydney ....Richard Beasley has a great SOH which he incorporates into the story line well worth a look if you're interested in legal and illegal activities .....so all that's left is to get my hands on his first novel "Hell Has Harbour Views" and that'll complete my reading of all of his offerings so far.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jun-05, 06:27 PM
I watched DEADWOOD the movie on Monday night set in 1899 to celebrate the State of Dakota gaining statehood Ian McShane as Al Swearengen very aptly named character owner of The Gem Saloon and Whorehouse on his deathbed being serenaded by the crippled cleaning lady with Banjo Paterson's immortal verse Waltzing Matilda a check revealed Banjo composed this poem on Dagworth Station near Winton in QLD in 1895.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jun-17, 06:15 PM
I've just finished "HELL HAS HARBOUR VIEWS" by Richard Beasley SC this was first printed in 2001 reprinted again in 2005 and 2009 and the current issue is a 2019 reprint it's set in Sydney Australia's largest law firm and was adapted by the ABC for TV in 2005 well worth finding if you enjoy humour and lawyer talk ...other books by the same author are THE AMBULANCE CHASER......ME AND RORY McBEATH .....CYANIDE GAMES and THE BURDEN OF LIES the last two are Peter Tanner thrillers all very readable.....and at a reasonable price.

A few lines about the author from his  book...originally from Adelaide he worked as a barrister in Sydney since 1997 ....."Through what some lawyers think one of the world's longest typographical errors, he was appointed silk in 2011............HELL has been hailed as a "penetrating biography of our firm" by countless young lawyers around the globe.
 
It remains an uncredited resource for members of the Australian judiciary when giving speeches lamenting the scandalous expense of legal services ,a matter that strangely failed to trouble many of them during the course of their careers pre elevation to the bench.

 It,and Beasley's subsequent thrillers ,are shortly to be made compulsory reading for any law graduate seeking a practising certificate in any jurisdiction."
A third Peter Tanner novel is work in progress. :thumbsup:


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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jun-18, 05:12 PM
Evan Whitton 1928 -2018 had a way with words...... in his Can of Worms covering the Wran Royal Commission, amongst other interesting cases, he painted a graphic word picture in his descriptions of those involved as each witness or barrister took part in the proceedings......the Remington or Olivetti described the dress or appearance of the subject......George David Freeman who was one of the subjects in Channel 9’s Suburban Gangsters  show on Sunday night last ,was one witness mentioned in Evan Whitton’s daily report.
He is mentioned frequently, this is just a snippet of the great writer’s words.

“The morning session got off to an intriguing start. First to rise –and putting me  irresistibly in mind of an ibis coming out of a swamp –was the tall ,balding and angular Desmond Anderson, for George David Freeman ,horse race tipster for Murray Farquhar,former chief stipendiary magistrate . Mr Anderson begged leave to withdraw from the Commission until such time as Mr Freeman should actually have to give evidence ,thought to be next week.

‘There is a matter ,’ Mr Anderson said ,’of a stretched financial position affecting my client, impecuniosity.....’ Which suggested that, sadly, Mr Freeman’s remarkable facility for foretelling the result of horse races –stated in 1977 to have been within two percentage points of being totally accurate- has, only momentarily ,we hope, deserted him.”


Evan Whitton was a teacher at Downlands on the Darling Downs he later worked for The Toowoomba Chronicle and several other news papers he was a delight to read especially in covering the Fitzgerald Inquiry in the mid 1980’s.

Brief extracts follow  from the Musswellbrook Chronicle on Evan Whitton’s career....with a link to the whole article.

"Whitton won five Walkley awards for ground-breaking journalism and the Graham Perkin Australian journalist of the year award in 1983 for “courage and innovation” in reporting for The Sydney Morning Herald the Street royal commission. This examined allegations that chief magistrate Murray Farquhar had tried to influence a court case against rugby league boss Kevin Humphreys and that NSW premier Neville Wran may have influenced Farquhar. Wran was cleared, Farquhar jailed and Humphreys convicted."

"Whitton had led development of a form of new journalism – writing non-fiction as a meticulously researched narrative, linking detail of characters and events into patterns with dialogue, atmosphere and tone. His stories could be challengingly long but he broke them up “with a joke every 30 pars or so”. He used this technique at the Street commission and the Fitzgerald inquiry."

https://www.muswellbrookchronicle.com.au/story/5545183/obituary-evan-whitton-1928-2018/

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jul-24, 09:24 PM
Received our quarterly water bill yesty from Urban utilities it's dated 24 July but it came in the mail yesterday (in a court of law that might be crucial to get a crim off serious charges) the bill is for  $442.98 for 92 days a total usage of 76 kilolitres with an average of 809 litres a day .............compared to previous bills of no more than $291 using only 36 kilolitres an average of 391 litres a day.

Something is seriously wrong after doing a leak test which revealed a leakage of only 1 litre overnight the massive increase in water consumption is unexplainable .......I'm now engaged in a battle of wits with urbanutilities.

I want them to send a tech out who knows the business..they say turn off toilets overnight ..run every tap and watch the digits change on the metre...they can't give any reasonable explanation  for this out of character increase ...since the last reading on 3 June of 758KL it's now shot upto 832kl which is an average of 1100 litres a day.....unbelievable we never use that volume....... they say if the metre is faulty it would either freeze up or under  record usage ...as a last resort I'll put it on the local alderman to get involved .....have never had any need to contact him but his predecessor Krista Adams was a wonderful representative she's moved up the ladder in the BCC no longer a local alderperson regretably.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jul-28, 06:44 PM
I've made some progress with Urban Utilities ....received a reply to my emails and I was contacted by phone by a very nice lady who is sending a water metre tester out and has put the bill on hold for 30 days in the expectation the problem will be resolved.......since getting a shock at the volume of water allegedly consumed an average of 809litres a day in that abnormal bill I have read the metre on a daily basis and have started a diary on usage since Tuesday......resulting in daily consumption of 285L... 337L...302L .. 226L... 289L & 376L
This works out at an average daily use of approximately 300L a day...obviously something was seriously wrong...what caused it is the question .....usage now appears to be back to normal......but I'm keeping a daily record. 

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: arthur on 2019-Jul-29, 07:49 AM
Very likely nothing to do with your case . .

But, apparently unscrupulous businesses with high and costly water usage, have been known to surreptitiously exchange their high reading meters with low reading meters from elsewhere

In the case i was told about, the target was a rural fire department shed, which being reasonably isolated made it an easy target

Where there's a will . . .

Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jul-29, 07:28 PM
Very likely nothing to do with your case . .

But, apparently unscrupulous businesses with high and costly water usage, have been known to surreptitiously exchange their high reading meters with low reading meters from elsewhere

In the case i was told about, the target was a rural fire department shed, which being reasonably isolated made it an easy target

Where there's a will . . .

The meter is numbered it hasn't been exchanged has the same serial numbers that are on the bill ..... what caused the abnormally high readings is a mystery the consumption is back to normal since I've been doing daily readings ....only reason I can come up with is a possible short term meter malfunction ....which isn't logical seeing it's now OK.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: ratsack on 2019-Jul-29, 07:59 PM
The meter is numbered it hasn't been exchanged has the same serial numbers that are on the bill ..... what caused the abnormally high readings is a mystery the consumption is back to normal since I've been doing daily readings ....only reason I can come up with is a possible short term meter malfunction ....which isn't logical seeing it's now OK.

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very simple , they now read once a year and average out the reading .
your last bill was catch up , good luck getting them to tell you this .
cheers Rats
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: arthur on 2019-Jul-29, 08:18 PM
As I said this probably wouldn't apply to your case



In the situation I referred to . .

They swap the meters . . run up the big usage . . then swap them back

Serial number is that on the bill . . But usage is not
Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: timw on 2019-Jul-29, 08:36 PM
Re Estimated utility bills.
Try moving out of home while you get renos done.  You can’t get services cut off like you could in the old days and get a final bill so the they keep sending estimates for usage (in this case gas).  I wanted to keep power and water for the tradies. They don’t send out meter readers and a final bill any more after you request cut off (in Vic anyway).  They just do estimates and send red notices accusing you of illegal use of gas with inflated bills.  Then when you move to a temporary residence all the utilitiy and phone coys go through their unpaid accounts looking for every timw they can find and refuse to connect you until you prove to their satisfaction you are not the same timw even if you have lived at your old address for yonks.   It must be a nightmare for serial renters.   

I once got a bill from a debt collector on behalf on a reputable car insurance coy for an accident I never had. I deduced the debt collector was looking for a similar name for someone who had given a false address for my street and my street is not that well known so the driver must have known the area.   

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jul-31, 08:48 PM
I'm in the home stretch in my negotiations with Qld Urban Utilities  today I was advised that the meter reading confirmed there's no water passing through the pipes and the meter test was shown to be accurate....still  there's no credible explanation for the abnormal water usage from the reading on 3 June to when I began  checking the usage on 23 July.......the current bill was for 74KLS whilst the reading I did on 23 July shows a usage of 76KLS at that date.......with more to come ......since then the daily usage averages around 300Litres a which is consistent with our long term usage.....based on discussions earlier today I'm reasonably confident that the outcome of our negotiations is likely to result in  an acceptable compromise.

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Title: Down Memory Lane
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jul-31, 09:36 PM
Now you can start having showers again.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Aug-01, 05:21 PM
Now you can start having showers again.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Aug-02, 08:39 AM
I’ve been finding it hard to win consistently lately....often going close but finished up backing the wrong one when I liked a few others in the same race.... so I decided to give Letsgohorseracing Late Mail a go....Saturday  was a winning day... I don’t bet in every race only on Saturdays before going to golf. I prefer Brisbane where I’m more familiar with the horses and jockeys.

Brisbane  late Mail was for  Borazon 3.40, Red Stina 8.50, and Hold The Line in the last.... a get out special @$11 ..... tips included the Quaddie $2042 and three other winning Trifectas.

I didn’t bother with Sydney or Melbourne Tips but  checked them against the results.... 4 of the top selections saluted and  while they were no fancy prices a winner is a winner ..... Tips included 7 of the 9 winners plus Trifectas and just  missed the Quaddie when Algadon Miss upset the applecart in R7.

In Sydney 3 on top selections arrived with 5 other winners included as chances in the other races. Catesby was the only winner missed .....three winning Trifectas one worth $1388 in the race Ligulate won.

A very good service LGHR Late Mail  IMO well worth the sub.

I always watch the replays and  keep a black book one selection from my black book tomorrow is Champagne Jet.

Tony Gollan is a good judge..... his form talk on Gollan Racing on the internet is worth checking out.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Sep-18, 06:33 PM
The AGM of the golf club is coming up on Monday week there are 7 nominations for the four Director positions three of whom are seeking re-election so if the sitting members are returned only one of the challengers will be successful ..of course it maybe that the members who bother to vote  might decide some new blood might be of benefit...hard to understand why the voting turnout is likely to be somewhere around 50%....all we need to do is fill in the voting slip and return it to the club by the closing date hardly an onerous task ...........   the President is unopposed as is the Captain but the Treasurer didn't stand again and there are 2 candidates contesting this position...I'll be assisting the Returning Officer to count and record the votes...it will be a busy few hours with the number of candidates for Board positions.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Nov-09, 10:05 PM
The Keith Noud Quality run today in memory of the late Keith Noud the ABC broadcaster on course race caller and Telegraph Journo brought back memories of one of his few errors in a close finish. It was the last race during the Winter Carnival many years ago  I was working as a bookies clerk for Frank O'Neill a Toowoomba bookie who had been invited to field at the carnival by the QTC ...my job was paying out at the back of the stand and the only race I ever had a chance to watch  was the last as they paid out at the front  of the stand so I would always be free to go out the front and watch the race near the winning post..it was a low grade race Keith called the finish Purse Proud or Rosarium photo ...Rosarium had won clearly by a head or a neck..when I got back to the stand Frank was betting 3/1 Rosarium I said "Frank its won " I repeated that but he ignored me and kept trying to lay it ..so I pulled out a roll that one of the clerks had given me in case he wanted a bet ..Frank saw the roll and said "you've got 60 to 20" ....pounds in those days.... no oncouse TV only radio ...no sooner had he laid the bet up flashed number 6 Rosarium...."Pay Jimmy 60 quid" Frank hadn't laid Rosarium it was a Toowoomba horse trained by Les Watterson..he probaly had some mail it could win Frank was very well informed  I still remember the finish Rosarium  White with Black braces beat Herb Reardon's Purse Proud in a photo a winning day 20 quid wages plus the 60 it was fortune my weekly wage was only around 5 quid a week...today was a good result I got the quaddie when Outback Barbie saluted although Tambo's Mate second would have been better .
Vale Keith Noud.

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Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Dec-06, 04:11 PM
We had the Wednesday Club annual Christmas party on Wednesday night Oysters prawns various other delights no desserts but plenty of drinks the entertainer was Greg Ritchie former Test cricketer who has a wonderful gift in telling jokes in foreign accents especially Pakistani .....  One joke he told concerned two 30 yo Irishmen Paddy and Mick who shared a flat together ....Paddy said to Mick in his Irish accent "I've booked two seats for us tonight down at the local hall for The Faith Healing Program "...."I'm not going down there" said Mick "I'm stayin' home to watch the football "....."Suit yourself " said Paddy ..."I'll go by meself."..so away he went and 40 minutes later he was back home......" It was a waste of time goin'" said Paddy ..."Even those in wheelchairs got up and walked out"

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Mar-17, 07:48 PM
I had a skin check on Wednesday last week and the result is a cluster 6 basal cell carcinomas which I'm having curetted on Thursday afternoon down at  the skin cancer clinic I go to  at Coorparoo ......the big shock was my doctor took a specimen of a black spot on  my left leg near the shin .....as a precautionary measure .....unhappily the biopsy came back as a level 1 melanoma..... that's 15 of these I've had .....3 of which were level 4. I saw the surgeon on Monday and I'm booked in for surgery early tomorrow...have to be up at dawn I'm first on his list which is a good thing fasting from midnight not too onerous.
I thought 15 melanomas would be some sort of record.... no way the surgeon told me he has a patient who has had 60 of them ......that must be a world record ..let's hope neither of us collect any more...hopefully I'll be in and out of hospital by lunchtime tomorrow.

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Post by: gunbower on 2020-Mar-17, 10:36 PM
Good luck Arsenal -hope everything goes your way.
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Post by: nemisis on 2020-Mar-18, 11:06 AM
Hope everything went well for you Arsenal.

Carrying some stitches myself at the moment........no melanomas thankfully.
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Post by: pwa54 on 2020-Mar-18, 12:17 PM
All the best, Arsenal.

I always appreciate your contributions to the forum.
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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Mar-18, 04:44 PM
Thanks everyone everything went well pre tests all OK only 28 minutes in surgery I'm waiting for the pathology report should be OK very good surgeon. :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Mar-23, 06:29 PM
PACIFIC GOLF CLUB
Club Closure   


To our valued Members,
Last night, the Prime Minister imposed strict new social distancing laws to discourage mass gatherings and help to slow the spread of Covid-19.

As a result, Registered and Licensed Clubs, along with other hospitality venues, were required to cease operating from midday today.

Unfortunately, Pacific Golf Club will not be opening its doors today and will remain closed until further notice. This includes the clubhouse and adjoining golf course. No golf is permitted until further notice.

Though the news is devastating and will have an impact on many clubs and the communities they support, the message is clear. Social distancing is paramount. Please follow media releases through health.gov.au.

The Club is currently working to support its staff through this difficult time.

We thank our members, guests and the local community for their ongoing support and look forward to welcoming you all back to the club in the near future.

Pacific Golf Club Management

Pacific Golf Club
430 Pine Mountain Road
CARINDALE QLD 4152   Phone: (07) 3343 0888

ENDS

It appears PGC is the exception other golf clubs are closing clubhouses as directed but the golf course is open for play ...some members are making efforts to have the decision reversed ...the reason given is the liquor license covers the whole property not just the clubhouse and the question of insurance has been mentioned what relevance that is isn't clear Liquor Licensing has received inquiries from a number of golf clubs if golf can continue and the department's boffins are locked in a tortuous mental exercise trying to come up with an answer. :what:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Mar-25, 05:13 PM
Latest news is Pacific Golf Club remains closed while other clubs are open for golf following a decision by Dr Janette Young the Chief Medical Officer.

Advice from Sanctuary Cove as follows received today outlines the conditions.


Dear Member
The past 48 hours at the Club have been extraordinarily challenging for all stakeholders, especially our staff.
On a pleasing note for our Members, last night Golf Australia received verbal confirmation from QLD Chief Health Officer Janette Young that she has approved that Queensland Golf Clubs can operate on their golf courses from today, Wednesday 25 March 2020. This will be in accordance with National Cabinets approved measures relating to outdoor gatherings which includes but is not limited to having groups less than 10 people and maintaining a 1.5 meter spacing.
The sale of alcohol is not allowed but the sale of takeaway food is allowed as long as people do not congregate around these areas as a result of the food being sold. The golf shop can be used but people must not congregate in this area.
For Wednesday 25 March 2020, the Club will offer the following golf provisions:
Golf Shop
•   Maximum 4 Members + staff at one time in the golf shop
•   No cash payments accepted, Member charging or 'tap and go' only
Practice Facilities
•   The Pines and The Palms open effective immediately
•   4m per range space between board
Tee times
•   Start from 8am
•   12 minutes tee time intervals
•   1 tee start
•   The Pines
•   The Palms closed Wednesday - open from Thursday
Wednesday Golf Format
•   Social Play - The Pines only
•   The Palms - closed (open from Thursday)
•   One person per buggy or walking only
Golf Course Changes
•   PVC pipe to be placed in holes to avoid having to touch the flag
•   Bunker rakes to be removed - rake and smooth by foot
As the information on golf course being permitted to re-open was only communicated late last night, further updates for Members in relation to golf access from Thursday of this week will be distributed later during the day.
As previously communicated, the Club implores all Members to ensure that they follow the guidelines that will assist mitigate the spread of the virus:
•   Maintain a distance of at least 1.5 meters from other people
•   In a given occupied space, there must be a density of no more than one person per four square metres of floor space
•   Wash your hands thoroughly for at least 20 seconds with soap
•   Use hand sanitizer regularly
Lakeview Bar, The Jabiru Restaurant and access to liquor on-site remains unavailable due to the Government regulations being enforced. Takeaway food from the golf shop will remain available during the day.
I want to take this opportunity to thank the Members for their understanding and patience with the golf course closure yesterday. It was the correct and only decision that could be made. The Club received a significant amount of feedback and advice from Members on the closure, especially in relation to what other local and interstate Clubs were doing. Liquor Licensing laws are managed by each State, hence the difference between us and Clubs in NSW, VIC and other States. Regardless of other local golf courses opening, we know we made the right and only decision, which was to close. Whilst Member feedback is generally appreciated, the substantial number of calls, text messages and e-mails received regarding the closure meant a considerable amount of time had to be allocated to responses, presenting another challenge during an already difficult period. We politely request for individual views and advice to be minimised.
I give you an absolute reassurance that the Board and I are obtaining all of the relevant information and facts for each scenario before we make decisions and communicate to Members. These are extraordinary times and we will make considered decisions, always be mindful of the law, respectful of Government guidelines and most importantly, we will always operate and make decisions in the best interest and health concern for all Members, guests and staff.
The Staff, management and the Board thank you for your support during this difficult period for the Club and the community and ask that all Members respect the rules set by the Club and the Government.
Please contact Member Services on 07 5699 9000 if you have any questions, there will be continuing updates to follow through the week.
Kind regards.

ENDS
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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Mar-28, 08:30 PM
I've just finished reading THE AUDACIOUS KIDD autobiography of a criminal who I had never heard of until his name was mentioned in the Bill Waterhouse thread..quite a good read apart from the first few chapters dealing with his early life which I found very boring ....Bertie Kidd is 88 yo and this is the first of a three volume story of his life and crimes mainly an expert safe breaker ....thief...fencer of stolen goods ... racehorse owner Way So trained by Peter Riley ridden by Kevin Mitchell .....also claimed to be a race fixer..(.which I expect will be covered in one or other of the next two volumes) counterfeiting ......associate of the Painters & Dockers Union ... one name I'm familiar with Steve Nittes who I grew up with in West End ..... Steve was a very good boxer  turned to crime when he moved to Melbourne .....story written by Simon Griffin .....the back cover has some endorsements by other crooks here and overseas ..."the most complete criminal in the nation's history "

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Mar-31, 01:24 PM
Trying to stay positive and sane in the current climate is a major issue for me ..no golf so that outlet is closed ...no close family contact only phone or email...I'm finding it more difficult now to get involved in studying the form ..hard to concentrate with all the turmoil going on in the world ....on Saturday I had a handful of bets .....on the Doomben and Rosehill Quaddie...I  had the first and last winners but second and third in the middle legs at Doomben.... but missed out in Sydney with only the first leg winning...had I tried a place parlay I would have had a reasonable result.....hindsight which I never considered at the time ....over the past few weeks I've managed to lob on a few long shots  Sister Pattie....Naval Strike .....Benfica Princess...which has kept the bank in credit there's another one I can't recall at present......my day consists of getting up around 7.30 or 8 am unless I sleep in ...having breakfast ...watching ABC News.... reading the paper... watering the pot plants  sending and receiving emails and watching TV ..I have found a couple of good shows to stream The Capture on ABC Iview is good and at the moment I'm watching The Outsider on Fox Ben Mendelson is the leading man...problem with watching the midweek races without having an interest I tend to drop off to sleep.
There's one SKY show I found very interesting it's the first Women in Racing show on the two Schmidt sisters both came across extremely well very attractive Priscilla no longer a blonde the dark hair suits her beautifully Now Mrs Looker in more ways than one.
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Post by: pwa54 on 2020-Mar-31, 03:06 PM
It's hard, Arsenal, and it seems like it's going to be the new norm for quite a while. I've gone back to jigsaws and crosswords plus plenty of reading to escape and occupy the time and it's also a good opportunity to catch up on research in various areas. I've also avoided as much of the depressing news as possible. Keep posting!
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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Mar-31, 05:14 PM
It's hard, Arsenal, and it seems like it's going to be the new norm for quite a while. I've gone back to jigsaws and crosswords plus plenty of reading to escape and occupy the time and it's also a good opportunity to catch up on research in various areas. I've also avoided as much of the depressing news as possible. Keep posting!
We need to stay active in mind if not in body  :thumbsup:

Keep Well :beer:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Apr-12, 11:46 AM
Sitting here in the back room of my humble abode at my computer  looking up on the wall above are framed pictures..... faded by the passage of time... of two of my best ever part owned pacers...... Leading Man and Sporting Sam .......both impulse buys at the regular pacing auctions conducted all those years ago by the late Greg Grant at the Rocklea showgrounds .... I remember this today as if it was yesterday ....although it's 40 years to the day that Leading Man won the Rocklea Easter Cup ....on 12 th April 1980 .....driven by his trainer driver Tom Clough... .....who was employed driving the water truck and the tractor preparing the track  between races...... it was no mean feat to get the track ready and then jump in the gig to drive Leading Man to victory.... in a high pressure Final after three heats had been run to qualify ....and what a courageous win it was..... from a standing start he sat in the death seat all the way around the tight little track for 2500m  holding off Special Metal and Lucy Bravado in a MR of 2.09.5...a day to remember.


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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Apr-12, 04:40 PM
At Last  :thumbsup:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nMnmxxjS/horses-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMnmxxjS)

Finally !!!

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Apr-16, 07:40 PM
It was a beautiful day on the golf course today ..just the two of us having 18 holes .....only took 3 hours 15 minutes no hassles.....we didn't get held up .....there were only 70 players in groups of two ..some walking others in golf buggies.... it's been  about 3 weeks since I've played on the Club's main course and I am surprised with how well I hit them ..only lost one ball in the pond on the 16th .......I have never seen the water level so low there......hopefully the 15 minute tee time gap will be reduced to 7 or 8 minutes so more members will be able to get a game....it's very difficult at present with no online bookings..... we have to ring the pro shop to book and they have just one telephone line..... very frustrating trying to get through when the shop opens bookings are a week in advance.
Very fortunate that golf is exempt from lock down while other sports are closed due to COVID-19 and we need to abide by the protocols so that it will continue..I have heard that police have attended some courses to check that players are abiding by the conditions.

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Post by: Board Odds on 2020-Jun-06, 10:02 PM
The Lyceum Hotel at the end of Eagle Street in Longreach has been burned to the ground ...media reports that the hotel was empty at the time and was on the market for sale...looks like a torch job on the limited information so far....... In my Union  job I had been to Longreach a few times.... many years ago..... the QGTB the Tourist Bureau always did my bookings and on arrival I was booked into the Lyceum Hotel......the Clerk of the Court told me it was a shearers' pub and I'm likely to find I'll be sharing a room with some strangers .. get out of there was his advice .......he rang the Commercial Hotel and booked a room for me there ...I retrieved by belongings from the Lyceum.... no questions asked ......and apart from the noise it was an uneventful stop over ..in the course of which I met the local AWU Secretary and we had a few drinks and exchanged stories.....for the life of me I can't remember his name but he was an old guy ..a lot older than me......he put me on the mailing list for The Worker the AWU newspaper....but it's long gone.

Wonder if it was Alf Cain??, the AWU Secretary?

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/landmark-queensland-pub-gutted-by-fire-20180615-p4zll6.html

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Jun-07, 07:24 PM
That's him Alf Cain thanks for jogging my memory :thumbsup:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Jun-07, 07:32 PM
That's him Alf Cain thanks for jogging my memory :thumbsup:

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Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Jun-07, 10:01 PM
Jogging of memory twice it seems.  :biggrin:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Jun-08, 11:43 AM
My memory isn't as good as it used to be although it's surprising that I can recall things that happened many years ago but sometimes when I decide to do something these days and go from one room to another I forget what it is I went there for.......the words  board odds brings back a memory of an old time bookie Ces Stevens that was his catch cry.... "board odds...prices on the board ...board odds".... many years ago there was a commission on a horse that had been set for a race in Sydney the main commission was in the Paddock and I was to put the money on in the Leger .....to cut a long story short the horse won and when I gave Ces Stevens' clerk the winning  ticket I remember he said "How did you back that ..it ruined our day " just a fluke I replied .................the horse started at 100/1 but they didn't bet that in the Leger I averaged 40/1 which was better than the two in the Paddock managed as they had some opposition from another professional punter...it turns out that the trainer who had the horse with a Deagon trainer when in QLD rang the old guy on the morning of the race and told him to have a few bob on it ....the old guy couldn't keep it to hisself and told a well known punter Bob Ewan who got under the necks of the Paddock commissioners .....every time there was a fluctuation they had to contend with him getting in before them.....still it was a good result.

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Post by: arthur on 2020-Jun-08, 01:19 PM
Bobby Ewan brings back memories . . All the 'toughs' . . punters and bookies used to follow the 'Cups' circuit (which pretty closely followed the 'Show' circuit) from Rocky through to Cairns and back . . most would be associated with visiting stables

Horses would under-perform until their target race . . then BANG

They were strong rings in those days and punters could get set for big money . . 50 bookies at a TVILLE Cup meeting would be common

Bobby Ewan, 'Nuts' Champ, a bloke called Josephs, I think . . associated with 'Army Disposals . . a lot of 'showies' and  others whose names I can't recall used to be pretty hard to beat




The Good Old Days . .  :wavecry: :bye: :wavecry:
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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Jun-09, 10:29 AM
Correction Herb Josephs wasn't the one he lived on Dornoch Terrace Freddie was guy who I meant both were related to a neighbour of ours when I lived at home in West End .....Freddie Glennie and Michael  ran sales of surplus goods and they were all punters..... Glennie a son had a semi trailer caravan and Tophie was another relation was well connected had lots of winners he owned a horse Attention not in his name but one of his friends Alma Craitem .....they were a great family who had a garage opposite Tristrams' factory ......his sister Gloria and her husband Vince lived two doors away they were great people.....Herb Joseph was ahead of his time he published a race book for the provincials which had last week's photo finishes in the centre he also owned a couple of good horses his house was named Va-Bern after his wife Vada and daughter they were good people. I can still see in my mind Freddie one day at Rocklea blessing himself with the sign of the cross and mumbling inaudibly hoping that whatever he had his money on would salute  :king:

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Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Sep-23, 07:28 PM
One of my daughters bought me a book for Fathers' Day which I've just finished reading ....The Happiest Man on Earth...it's the life story of German Jew Eddie Jaku told in the first person.... Eddie is 100 yo he lived through WW2 was imprisoned tortured and beaten by the Nazis ... given up by collaborators .....lost all but one of his family but survived .....a truly remarkable courageous man... one in a million...his book is well worth reading ...Eddie lives in Sydney  :king:


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Post by: Brian Mc on 2020-Sep-24, 08:04 AM
I noticed your mention of Dornoch Terrace in a June post.

Way back in 1961, we lived for six months  in the Terrace (corner of Boundary Road).  I see from Goggle maps that there's been a lot of road alteration there since those days. Back then I could see the Uni across the river but I'd get on my 125cc BMW bike and head off in the other direction to the William Jolly Bridge and then down Coronation Drive and St Lucia Road. In those days City Hall, the domain of Clem Jones, was the tallest building in the town. 

Later in1961, we m