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« 2016-Sep-03, 08:21 PM Reply #700 »
Baster out until 17th

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« 2016-Sep-21, 08:22 PM Reply #701 »
Monday night at the AGM of the golf club turned out to be a bloodbath as far as the existing directors were concerned ...the incumbent President retired leaving a vacancy which two members contested..... one was already on the board the other an ordinary member ........the outsider won convincingly.....only the Treasurer was elected unopposed ..... the Captain who has been in office previously as Treasurer  and Captain for two years was voted off by a newcomer who won with a significant majority... despite his resume lacking  any punch......another long serving board member lost his position with three newcomers joining the only remaining member of the old board who topped the poll.

I'm not surprised some failed to get elected all candidates present a resume of their claims ..reading some you would be forgiven for  thinking  they were trying to convince the voters not to vote for them.

The bloodletting didn't stop with the election  ..notices of motion to change the Constitution submitted by the directors also failed the 75% requirement one was to extend the term from annual elections to two years on a rotational basis .....the other attempted to get the full members to vote in favour of  extending voting rights to 5 and 6 day members and associates...... this must have been the fifth or sixth time such a proposition has failed to get the 75% support necessary.

Strangely there was no argument advanced against the motion those opposed just voted it down .

There were around 100 voting members present and an unknown number of interested observers not entitled to vote .....another disappointment for them and those supporting the motion including my good self who favour giving everyone a vote.

 The Returning Officer reported 429 ballot papers were issued but only 216 were returned ..the rest couldn't be bothered.

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« 2016-Nov-04, 08:39 PM Reply #702 »
I may have posted some of  this before but still it's something that stirs my spirit when the Melbourne Cup comes around.

The Argus – Wednesday 3 November, 1886
THE WINNING JOCKEY AND HIS HORSE.
The winning jockey, W. English, is able to make a chat about the winning horse and himself very interesting. English, who is only 19 years of age, and as modest as he is young, was born in Maitland, New South Wales, and being always fond of horses, he began a jockey's career about seven years ago in the stable of Mr. Scott, a local turf celebrity.

 At that time he was quite a feather weight, and scored his first win on Twilight, when he scaled only 3st. 10lb. After doing very well at Maitland, English travelled to make a living, and then attached himself to Mr. Raynor, trainer for Mr. Gannon, the owner of yesterday's Cup winner.

 The horse, it will be remembered, ran nearly last in last year's Melbourne Cup, although at that time backed for a large sum, and after this fiasco Arsenal was sold by Mr. Dakin to Mr. Gannon, who ran him only once in Sydney for the Christmas Gift, which he did not succeed in winning.

 It appears that the horse used to strike his heels, and after a good deal of trouble Mr. Raynor managed to remedy this defect, and put him into training for the Melbourne Cup. The horse was also entered for the Metropolitan, but was scratched for that event, and whether this was done to save him and keep him dark for the Melbourne Cup may be left to conjecture.

English says that Mr. Raynor found that the horse was not well at that time, but the ailment appears to have been so slight that it required a very astute trainer—and this is what the jockey credits Mr. Raynor to be—to discover it, and Arsenal's indisposition was never severe enough to throw him out of work.

His preparation for yesterday's race has been seven months in progress, and during all this time English rode him at his exercise. He also fed and watered him, and a very good understanding grew up between the pair. English thought Arsenal a " very honest fellow," and the colt always ran very kindly and did his best when his young mentor was on his back.

On Friday last the Melbourne Cup winner arrived from Sydney, and was put up at Morrison's stables at Newmarket. The next morning he only cantered after his journey, and on Monday he did the only approach to a trial which could have given the Melbourne touts a true idea of his quality. In this trial, however, he only did a mile with a plater, whose defeat could scarcely afford a " line " to go by, and the stable were able to give Arsenal this finishing touch and still keep their secret safe.

 There is no doubt that for twelve months the horse has been kept idle in the belief, which has been justified at last, that the Melbourne Cup would pay for his oats, and those who saw English ride the race will admit that a better selection for so important a task could not have been made.

Of the race itself English, whose victory has left him quite unassuming, says :—" On taking Arsenal out on the course I only gave him one short canter, but liked the way he was moving under me. He was going free and strong, and I knew that he had never been better in his life. I meant to ride a waiting race, and not bustle him along too fast at first. I was not told what to do, as Mr. Raynor always leaves me to ride a race according to my judgment.

I got a little nearer the rails than the centre of the field, between Lancer and Silvermine. On the fall of the flag I held Arsenal well in hand to settle him comfortably into his stride without bustling him. We dropped back gradually going up the straight past the grand stand and round the turn until going along by the river we were tenth or eleventh.

Then I took hold of Arsenal to push him a little closer up. I had the luck to get a clear run, and Arsenal went up so quick when I moved on him that at the abattoirs I stopped riding him, as we were third, and I thought that would do for a time. I let him go comfortably till coming into the turn into the straight, when I again took hold of him, and he went away with such a dash of foot that I thought we could win.

Hexham and Trident were the leaders. I sent Arsenal to catch them, and he collared Hexham in a few strides, and then Trident took Hexham's place and challenged us. I rode Arsenal hard for a little bit, and then eased off, for I had a short lead, and Hales was hard at work on Trident, who I knew had shot his bolt. I heard the whip cutting hard on his flanks, and there is no mistake about that. But when the race seemed all but won Trenton came up on Arsenal's flank, and then I did all I knew to stretch Arsenal to his top speed. I saw after going a few yards that Trenton was keeping stride for stride with Arsenal.

I could not get any farther away, and I was very glad he could not get any nearer. I was very glad to keep him where he was Arsenal did his best, as I knew he would. He was all out at the finish, and I don't think he will run in the V.R.C. Handicap on Saturday, for which he is entered. He was fit and well today, and is never likely to be a better horse than when he won the Cup.

 I won nothing by his win, but a gentleman came into the jockeys' room when I was taking off my boots after the race, and told
me to call at the Opera-house club rooms tonight, and I would get £50. I am not going in for the money, but if the gentleman has any principle he will take care that I get it."

The last big race that English won was the Hawksbury Stakes. He has been very successful in more races, but so far has not been well enough known on metropolitan courses to get a show with important mounts.

Unfortunately Billy English was killed in a race fall 10 years later leaving a wife and three children ,one of whom was my maternal grandmother.

Victoria Racing Club advised me that in the week prior to the 1886 Melbourne Cup, W English rode a double at Rosehill.
 
William ENGLISH  was killed whilst riding in an event on 1 October 1896. 
 
From death certificate of William ENGLISH died at the Western Suburbs Cottage Hospital, Enfield.  A Inquest was held and cause of death was "Concussion of the brain from injuries accidently received through being thrown from the racehorse Regalia whilst riding in a race at Cantebury Racecourse". Dated 15 October 1896 ."
 
W. English is named on the Fallen Jockeys Memorial at Caulfield racecourse.

Giddy Up.   :no1:

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« 2016-Dec-20, 07:06 AM Reply #703 »
ABC TV last night Back Roads took us to Thursday Island which brought back memories of my visits there when I was a union representative the main employers then and now are the Federal and State guvments the people are very friendly but times have changed since my visit many years ago there's a football oval now which looks like it might be where the old bowls club was all those years ago.
I remember the place had two pubs the Federal and the Torres which weren't shown last night...... pity I would have liked to see the change in them if any...... on Fridays the Federal had bar snacks...... all the pubs did in those days usually peanuts or potatoes something not too expensive to encourage a thirst.....but in TI it was barramundi on the bar.

Pat Killoran aka (The Black Prince)a very imposing individual tall and strong and very determined  was head of the DAIA formerly Native Affairs and Bob Katter was the Minister .....they didn't get along the Union was persuaded to intervene...... the objective was to get rid of Katter so I made representations to the Premier Sir Joh  it backfired badly the outcome was he sided with Katter....... later after he retired Killoran stood for the Country Party or the Nationals for the seat but he wasn't successful.....Katter is still around but no longer one of  the Nationals running his own show..

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« 2017-Feb-19, 08:40 AM Reply #704 »
I had a game yesterday with a guy who told me he was runner up the week before with 42 points but was done over by another member who had 46 points...nothing unusual in that ...except this chap a new member who none of us had ever heard of was having his first game at the club was off 36 handicap the week before and parred the course in a stroke round reducing his handicap to 20.....his 46 points the following week indicated he played to 9 and he's gone from D grade to A grade in one week his new handicap is 8.

Questions are being asked.

After the AGM where a new broom swept out the old board...... apart from two who survived ...one has resigned after disagreement ...that's the rumour...couldn't get along with the new president...followed a few weeks later with another of the new breed spitting the dummy ..over what issues we are left to wonder...but the rumour mill is working overdrive....a personality clash.......now two new replacements have been installed ..one of whom had been a candidate at the last election but was unsuccessful...the second a mate of mine who is a very generous benefactor of the club over many years and has served in several capacities on the board or as it was then called the committee.....let's hope they can all get along....till the next election. :thumbsup:

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« 2017-Feb-27, 04:45 PM Reply #705 »
I don't know what the problem is or was with the golf club board......but it's a concern to members with an unprecedented departure of the newly elected president....... who we are informed has resigned after a board meeting on Thursday night...and according to an insider one of the two newly appointed replacement directors has followed him out the door......this means the remaining 5 members have to find another two members to fill the vacancies.
After only a few months taking their seats in the board room they're now dropping like flies ...something is seriously wrong when almost half of the elected and subsequent appointees have resigned. :o

From all reports the club is performing well and the golf course is in excellent condition apart from some of the bunkers which need refurbishment when funds become available.

You would think that mature chaps should be prepared to tolerate each other even if there are disagreements over policies and get on with the job they were elected and promised  to do.


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« 2017-Apr-13, 03:29 PM Reply #706 »
It was a Great Era of racing the late 60's early/middle 70's in the Central West area of Queensland.

Some great Trainers, Jockeys, Horses and Characters.

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« 2017-Apr-13, 03:45 PM Reply #707 »
Great places those old pubs.  Central West Queensland, CQRA - It was a Great Era to grow up in and be around racing, was the late 60's and early/middle 70's. Some great Horses, Trainers, Jockeys and Characters!!

   I left home just before my 14th birthday and travelled out to Quilpie to work as a cowboy.

   When I got off the train I had been told to wander down to one of the pubs and book in and wait for the mail truck.   I had no idea on how big the country was and was thinking that Ray Station,where I was heading, was just down the road.
   Lady in the pub really looked after me with plenty of food and a compfy bed and the mail truck picked me up the next day.  Took the entire day to get out to Ray Station, it was that far away.

  Stayed out in the bush for nearly four years and mainly worked with horses from down Quilpie way right up to NT.  Might not have been a Uni education but I learnt things there that have helped in later life and never regretted it for a moment.
   The country pubs played a big part in my life in those days.


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