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« 2010-Nov-15, 12:13 PM Reply #50 »
thats sad.  :tears:

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« 2010-Nov-15, 03:50 PM Reply #51 »
Omni, a question if you don't mind.

Having had your experience of having worked with numerous traniers and stables, what's the little things that might have stood our for you in preparing a horse that sets the very good trainer from maybe another. Obviously the quality of horse is the first thing, but have there been additional things that you've noticed or picked up along the way that one or another did that was a little different to the norm and may well have been an advantage? 

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« 2010-Nov-15, 06:57 PM Reply #52 »
Firstly sorry for the remove thread quote. It is hard for me to get some of this stuff off my cheast but it is something i need to do so will continue to do so. I will get back to all questions tomorrow as after starting at 6 this morning and walking back in the door at 7 tonite I am shot(no I do not get overtime but the work has to be done). Am going to have a shower, the mrs will be home with thai for dinner and then bed. Will tell you a tale about me and a bull tomorrow that will either make you laugh or, shake your head and think I'm a mad nutter. Nite all and I will be back. Thanks for the kind remarks and PM's. :therethe NORTON...i had a lump in my throat by the time I finished reading your post. So sorry for your loss and heart and thoughts go to all involved :rip: :sad:.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 06:46 AM Reply #53 »
Omni, thanks.  it is my daughter who is seriously upset.  They are having a rememberance event for the medical students at RBWH Wed.  Will be a few tears there for sure.

I posted that info a) because it is tragedy in the extreme, and b) it exemplifies that (dare I say it) life was not meant to be easy.  What is important is that we can always learn from the experience of others, and the prime objective of anyone's day to day existance is to be as happy and content as circumstances will allow.  In my case, being a broken down old mongrel (yeah shut up Vadim) it means that every day above ground should be treated like new years eve  :bop:.  Monty Python put it to music in the song "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life". 

When I worked in hospitals, I made sure I walked through the spinal injuries unit each day.  Apart from making some good friends and sharing a little cheer, I would exit the ward in the morning reflecting that the day ahead couldn't possibly be as serious / bad as what those folk had to face.  And on the way home  I was able to reflect that, even if my personal day had been a disaster,  I at least retained the ability to despatch my foul mood to the bin and go home feeling blessed.

Helps for losing photo finishes too.

Am enjoying the blog.  Please continue to enlighten us.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:45 AM Reply #54 »
In my case, being a broken down old mongrel (yeah shut up Vadim) it means that every day above ground should be treated like new years eve 

Omni if you knew Norton this comment confirms his actual demeanour  :lol:

I concur with everyone on here - keep the thread going and be yourself  emthup

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« 2010-Nov-16, 11:09 AM Reply #55 »
omni , i was groomsman at mates wedding and his wife is from ashburton . wedding was in blenheim , cycling tour of the wineries was interesting  ())=(

like you i hold gerald ryan in high regard . a quick example , the horse was in at ef on a sat and i got to the coast wed night and asked gerald if i could go to trackwork with him , no prob went and enjoyed the morning . was staying at the coast and i asked if i could get a lift to ef on the horse float sat morning . gr said no you will come in the car with me my wife and son . at the races gerald asked if i was going to bet and i said yes ( $100 ew ) well he says get in and back it . i ask why and he says everyone else is so you get first chop . he was 14's in to 6's and ran 2nd behind treviscay .

keep the thread going mate


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« 2010-Nov-16, 11:29 AM Reply #56 »
I did 12 months with Gerald Ryan, in a foreman's position.

Nice bloke, great horseman, enjoyed my time there   emthup

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« 2010-Nov-16, 06:06 PM Reply #57 »
Will start with the bull story. While I was in America I went to the local country rodeo. They had a game called The Ring Of Fire. They put a 10 metre rope circle on the ground in the arena and everytime you where in the ring the same time as the bull you got a point. You signed up and then signed the waiver and where given a vest from the bull riders. about 10 signed up( me included) and we all entered the arena. No clowns(I think we where them). Well they opened the chute for the first bull and it wouldnt come out. Ok I must admit I had a few or more ale's in me by then and decided if it aint coming out I will go find it. I got within about 10 metres of the chute and yep out it came. It hit me right in the chest and by all accounts sent me around 7 feet into the air while doing a back flip at the same time( I do not remember this part and must rely on what I was told afterwards). I can remember getting up and spitting out grit, blood and sand I must have swallowed when I hit the ground. I then ran after the bull and got him into the rope circle and got my point( the local yanks where not as keen as me and ran in many differant directions). Woo Hoo 1 point to me. The 1st bull got tired so they sent him away and out came a new one. It had horns on it the size of the highway between melbourne and sydney and was feral. It started chasing another competitor so off i went after it yelling to it, " here bully, bully, bully". Well that worked it turned and gave chase with me and my at the time red and black mohawk racing for the circle. I got another point but was run over about 3 steps on the other side of the circle. I had won :no1:. And for my prize...$50. Went to the bar afterwards and felt great, looked in the mirror in the mens and skin of down my right hand side of my face(I have photos). Woke up the next morning and thought a train had run me over. Went to the doc and found out I had ripped all the cartlidge on the left hand side of my ribcage and cracked the outside of my 3 lower ribs on my left side. Could not strap the rib cage but was breaking in horses for a local vet at the time who gave me some good painkillers that I had to have with milk.( it was in a syringe and had 5ml's a day). All that for $50...ahhh the things we do.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 06:26 PM Reply #58 »
  :lol:

I've got to ask, you haven't been to Spain and done the Running of the Bulls through the streets of Pamplona by any chance

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« 2010-Nov-16, 06:49 PM Reply #59 »
Omni, a question if you don't mind.

Having had your experience of having worked with numerous trainers and stables, what's the little things that might have stood our for you in preparing a horse that sets the very good trainer from maybe another. Obviously the quality of horse is the first thing, but have there been additional things that you've noticed or picked up along the way that one or another did that was a little different to the norm and may well have been an advantage? 

Most of the best horses around are only average breeds.  Maryanne had a great eye for a good horse and showed the one thing I respect in a trainer...Patience. As she owned the first team herself we could do things differant to most trainers and differant to how she trains now. She would take in what you said as the rider and worked from there (not all riders calls would be followed but she always weighed them up). Alicia was amazing. We worked together and in doing so had a very productive time as most on here would know. I regret leaving her stable as we had a fantastic thing working between us in the stable. In saying that she still is and will always be a very good friend and we still chat now. as you now she had alot of other trainers cast offs yet got them going. No we where never an item ( I worked for her and that was it) but geez we had some fun. I do think she is so underrated as a trainer. Would I go back?..hell yeah but the money on offer in the Gold Coast is nothing compared to here in Melbourne. I could talk for hours about my time there, it was the most amazing job i have had and she does deserve a fair crack at this industry. May I also say her parents are also amazing( and don't worry her dad and I had words a few times). DD would know Larry and if I thought he was out of line I would always step up to defend her. Like I said I could talk about her for hours as she was no doubt the best I worked for. The hardest thing I have found in racing is trainers that can not see new school ways. while in America I went to a Pat Parrelli seminar( natural horsemanship). I watched and thought I do all this but never knew why what I done worked. After the seminar I could put my finger on it. My early life is just like a young horse's life. Parents gone and getting passed around from here to there looking for someone that can teach without punishing if I got it wrong. Will save me and horses for another time but to help those that now nothing about horses, ever walked into a room where there is a couple and you get that felling in the air and by the body language they have been arguing??. That is how horses feel us. They feel our feelings and read our body language. Walk up to a horse in a grumpy mood and then try the same in a happy mood, see the differant way the horse responds to you.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 06:49 PM Reply #60 »
  :lol:  

I've got to ask, you haven't been to Spain and done the Running of the Bulls through the streets of Pamplona by any chance

Not Yet but give me time   :lol:

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« 2010-Nov-16, 07:19 PM Reply #61 »
Don't let doubt cloud your mind Omni.
You were on the right track when you started this thread  :yes:

Personally I am really enjoying your story. I would buy the book.

Who is the best trainer you have worked for?

Hard to say, on prov en and past results, Freedman. Who do I think can go along way but just needs better cattle, Willick all the way. Worked for Moroney back in NZ also worked for the NZ jumps king in K Brown.  Also worked for a pre training farm in Japan where one of the horses I rode and rated ran 3rd in the japan oaks.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 07:39 PM Reply #62 »
Omni if you knew Norton this comment confirms his actual demeanour   :lol:  

I concur with everyone on here - keep the thread going and be yourself   emthup  

I have nothing but respect for Norton as he has fronted up and said like myself who he is. He has not tried to be something else and is no doubt comfortable with who he is and good on him. I started this thread so not only myself can step up and be honest about things but others may also do the same. Am I reading you wrong vad or do you rate yourself higher than some others of us?( if so then why are you better?).  I look forward to a meeting of the forum in Melbourne and hope Norton attends, but let me warn all...i have a head for radio not t.v   :biggrin: .

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« 2010-Nov-16, 07:49 PM Reply #63 »
And to end the night lets put Westie to the test again with a song....Chumbawamba,  Tubthumping  :bop:

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« 2010-Nov-16, 07:57 PM Reply #64 »
Ommi
I'm on the Ball and throughly enjoying your thread - has your sister popped in yet ?.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 07:59 PM Reply #65 »
Omni

Don't know him from a bar of soap, but you're a bit rough on vadim imo.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:00 PM Reply #66 »
Westie, not yet I need to ring her and give her the site.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:03 PM Reply #67 »
Westie, not yet I need to ring her and give her the site.

Is she on email if so post the link: http://www.racehorsetalk.com.au/index.php/topic,12555.msg264582/topicseen.html#new

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:06 PM Reply #68 »
Omni

Don't know him from a bar of soap, but you're a bit rough on vadim imo.

Norton fronted with who he is and does not need any sideways remarks for doing so. I like you make my own mind up about formites and need no other opinions. I respect Norton for posting what he did. If vad wants to comment on his post then let him also post where he is at. I look neither up nor down on others as we all have a story behind our book covers. Does Vad know the whole Norton story?.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:10 PM Reply #69 »
It's your party.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:11 PM Reply #70 »
Time for sleep for me but let me leave some of you with something, a saying. If you have children or the women you love with you, wait until they are asleep at night and go look at them and remember and say this to yourself ...... "To the world I am one person, But to this person I am the World'.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:14 PM Reply #71 »
It's your party.

I took Vad's comment as a dig at Norton. If I am wrong then Vad will explain why and I am happy to appologise here on the forum.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:27 PM Reply #72 »
Mate

Of course it was a dig at norton. I thought your reaction was in the extreme.

Maybe I was out of order. It's really got nothing to do with me. :embarrassed:

Have a good sleep.

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« 2010-Nov-16, 08:58 PM Reply #73 »
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« 2010-Nov-16, 09:16 PM Reply #74 »
Chill guys.

Vadim is my mate.  We just enjoy whacking each other occasionally.  He usually deserves it.  He was offering affirmation that I treat every day as if it is new years eve.  I have been trying to teach him that life is too short to spend on anything other than having a good time.   


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