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Offline jfc

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« 2018-Oct-15, 07:47 AM Reply #50 »
Thought I'd check to see how V'landys' boast about turnover stand up in reality.

The rest of you may have problems given Tabcorp's brilliant improvements of limiting results to just 365 days!

Pesumably they don't realise that a 16GB Flash Drive costs $7.98 at Officeworks.

NSWWinPlaceF4
20181,381,093.10600,099.602,543,490.92
20171,457,759.70609,158.663,406,266.50

So a drop of ~$1 million!

But V'landys is boasting a 9% surge in something!

Have to say he's very creative.

« Last Edit: 2018-Oct-15, 08:07 AM by jfc »

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« 2018-Oct-15, 07:55 AM Reply #51 »
jfc,

Are you excluding WA TABS turnover where you yourself have migrated too along with others given the perceived 1c advantage?

Suggest including this may alter things somewhat!

Fours

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« 2018-Oct-15, 08:01 AM Reply #52 »
I'm not sure who the racing journo is on the Sunday morning ABC breakfast show but he made a good point about the result of The Everest.

The placegetters  in Sydney's premier autumn sprint the TJ Smith Stakes worth $2.5mil were 1st Trapeze Artist, 2nd  Redzel, 3rd In Her Time and 4th was Le Romain.

Very similar result with the obvious differences being the track conditions and the size of the purse.
« Last Edit: 2018-Oct-15, 10:04 AM by nemisis »

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« 2018-Oct-15, 08:28 AM Reply #53 »

But V'landys is boasting a 9% surge in something!

Have to say he's very creative.

Hot pies eaten on track or umbrellas sold at front gate  :what: :what:

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« 2018-Oct-15, 08:37 AM Reply #54 »
This is the effusive article in question.

I translate this as The Everest was so successful that we want another $10 million of public money.

Too many undesirables (at the track) are never enough.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/randwick-s-10-million-warchest-to-make-the-everest-even-bigger-20181014-p509m4.html

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« 2018-Oct-15, 09:29 AM Reply #55 »
I translate this as The Everest was so successful that we want another $10 million of public money.


Correction #1

They already have the $10 million in a "war chest". It is not "public money". They want to improve "public facilities" not add to the prizemoney as your post infers in the absence of any other qualifying info.

“We wanted to engage the next generation and we have,” Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys said. “We have only just began. We have the Randwick development fund, which has more than $10 million in it and it is available to the club straight away to improve public facilities.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/randwick-s-10-million-warchest-to-make-the-everest-even-bigger-20181014-p509m4.html

NSW   Win   Place   F4
2018   1,381,093.10   600,099.60   2,543,490.92   
2017   1,457,759.70   609,158.66   3,406,266.50


Correction #2

The pools published by TABCorp for the 2017 Everest we

Win $1,457,758.20
Place $609,155.66
Quinella $286,432.65
Exacta $57,704.44
Duet $26,626.45
Trifecta $991,714.90
First Four $2,706,266.50

The 2018 Everest was run a Heavy 9 track where pools are always down regardless of where the races are held. Also there is a trend of Tote pools falling as money flows toward corporates. You yourself have published information that backs this up in the past.

In the absence of corporate bookmaker info, the comparison of the 2017 NSW tote pools to the 2018 pools is misleading (in the extreme).

 :)

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« 2018-Oct-15, 10:02 AM Reply #56 »
I included the Jackpots in both F4s. The totals are correct.

I'm aware of the heavy track issue.

My key point was the V'landys claimed +9% of something, but we are unlikely to ever learn what that something is.

And the Triads/unlicensed outfits would have been the biggest beneficiaries but that information remains elusive.

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« 2018-Oct-15, 02:31 PM Reply #57 »
Further to that $500,000 F4 Jackpot.

Tabcorp would have had far more turnover and real revenue had it instead had 5 x $100,000 Jackpots spread over earlier meetings.

Because retail punters only have a limit on the money they are prepared spend chasing a F4 Jackpot. Say $50. So had it been on 5 F4s they would have spent $250.

So that huge Jackpot was only put on to artificially inflate the Everest Turnover.

Tabcorp know that with a 22.5% Rake the new money will tend to ~4.44444444444444444444444444 times the Jackpot.

V'landys is on record as claiming if he gets new people to the racetrack they'll suddenly be compelled to become an owner.

Perhaps he's mellowed and now thinks that at least these undesirables will actually try a bet on the F4 providing it has an obscene Jackpot?

But the only published evidence contradicts that.



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« 2018-Oct-15, 02:49 PM Reply #58 »
You reckon I’m insane.....triads  :lol:

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« 2018-Oct-15, 04:24 PM Reply #59 »

 
The only certainty here is that the punters are being taken on a ride.

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« 2018-Oct-15, 04:39 PM Reply #60 »
Punters don’t care. The race proved that. You’re wrong again

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« 2018-Oct-15, 07:18 PM Reply #61 »


No one is telling us this

No wonder the media are so beholden to the party line from Druitt Street.


Sydney’s commercial media outlets are among the biggest winners from Saturday’s Everest race meeting. In the weeks leading up to the race, three advertisers spent almost $900,000 on print, radio and television ads.

Marketing and media firm Ebiquity put the spend by betting agency TAB, the Australian Turf Club, and the Australian Jockey Club at $867,000, mostly in Sydney media, with much smaller spends in Brisbane and Melbourne, and smaller again in Adelaide and Perth.

The Sydney Morning Herald had almost daily ads, including four front and back page ads, in the two weeks leading up to the race. The Herald and The Daily Telegraph both carried wrap-arounds and lift-outs dedicated to detailed coverage of the race.


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