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Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Aug-02, 02:15 PM
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A thread for the 2020 event.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Aug-02, 02:18 PM
PETERS ON STORM WATCH FOR EVEREST, GOLDEN EAGLE

Perth’s leading owner Bob Peters has unveiled the three horses he says could be potential TAB Everest contenders after an inquiry from a slot holder this week.

Last spring Peters campaigned his outstanding mare Arcadia Queen in Sydney, she ran 11th in the Everest and an unlucky fifth in the Golden Eagle and that’s the path his rising star Superstorm could follow in 2020.

Under Chris Waller’s care Arcadia Queen managed to win the Group 2 Theo Marks Stakes first-up while Peters also secured a slot for Enticing Star but that mare had to be retired after failing at her Sydney debut.

That slot, Chris Waller Racing, was eventually filled by the winner Yes Yes Yes.

Peters said Superstorm would be the most likely prospect, but would only target the Everest if he secured a slot early enough, and labelled lightly raced duo Windstorm and Showmanship as horses that could develop into high class sprinters.

“I had a call this week about (the Everest) and they asked me what I had,’’ Peters said on Perth radio.

“I told them there’s two or three horses there they could keep an eye on and see how they come up. Maybe the best one of them might be good enough.

“Obviously people are casting their eye all over the place and we’ll see what comes of it.’’

Superstorm is already Group 1 placed, he chased home Everest and Golden Eagle bound Alligator Blood in the Australian Guineas at the end of February, and was runner-up to stablemate Regal Power in the All Star Mile.

Peters said after the radio interview he hasn’t decided which path he’ll take with Superstorm towards the $7.5m Golden Eagle (1500m), for four-year-olds, including whether he’ll be transferred to Chris Waller or remain under Grant and Alana Williams’ care.

“He’s still in the paddock but will be due to come in shortly,’’ he said.

“He’ll take his time and get ready, we can trial him over here and have him ready to go.

“It depends on if he got a slot in the Everest, that might have a bearing on (program and trainer). At this stage I’d take him to Melbourne and go up to Sydney from there.’’

Arcadia Queen is unlikely to race in Sydney this spring, having been transferred back to the Williams stable, with Peters looking to Melbourne for her.

Superstorm isn’t currently in the TAB market for the Everest but he’s on the $11 line in Golden Eagle pre-noms betting.

So who are Windstorm and Showmanship?

Windstorm is also a rising four-year-old, he’s by Redoute’s Choice and has won two from two. He’s due to make his return at Belmont this Saturday where he’ll start a short priced favourite.

Showmanship is soon to be five and he’s only had the three starts for two wins including a first-up success in Perth last weekend.

Peters concedes both horses would need to make huge steps through the grades between now and the spring to even be worthy of consideration for a slot owner, and they may be horses who emerge in 2021.

But it’s going to be a year of change for Australia’s richest race with the retirements of the likes of Redzel, Sunlight, Yes Yes Yes and Pierata. Nature Strip, the current favourite, is the only horse secured to date.

“It depends on how they come up. We don’t know what level they are going to get to yet because they are just starting off,’’ Peters said.

“You’ve got to have some sort of an aim and we’ve got some unfinished business in a few races over east.”

https://www.theeverest.com.au/peters-on-storm-watch-for-everest-golden-eagle/
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Aug-02, 06:58 PM
Back them all in what they start in. They’re a good bunch
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Aug-03, 08:11 AM


Don't stumble on a hill on the way to Everest


...... there is another event on promoters neverest-day  .......... $5 Kosciuszko tickets are on again this year and punters are being exhorted to 'Buy a $5 ticket'.

............... can anyone explain why it would be sensible for anyone to do this?




Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Aug-03, 02:34 PM
Never played Lotto Pete? Pokies? Had a bet on the races?

You understand odds & probability right?
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: sobig on 2020-Aug-03, 03:12 PM
Come on gintara he has demonstrated again and again that he has no idea of odds and probabilities
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Aug-03, 06:27 PM
He’s also demonstrated that he doesn’t give a flying fig about anyone else’s opinion hence his regurgitation of his self promoting brain farts
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Aug-03, 06:38 PM


........ just go and buy Kosko tickets kids ....... don't worry about my commonsense
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Aug-03, 07:08 PM

....... don't worry about my commonsense

But we are worried about it Pete...doesn't seem to exist   :lol:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Aug-03, 07:58 PM
That’s why he was sacked and now not employed
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: ratsack on 2020-Aug-03, 08:07 PM
peter mair - Parliament of Australia

www.aph.gov.au › house_of_representatives_committees
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: ratsack on 2020-Aug-03, 08:24 PM
https://www.crikey.com.au/2002/07/07/peter-mair-to-be-axed-as-racing-advocate-by-dick-face/
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Aug-03, 08:37 PM


Still standing


................ as the official record stands ... I am still the 'appointed' consumer representative for racing in NSW .......... the decision to not formalize my reappointment ........ to then remove from the racing legislation the role of a consumer representative goes to my credit .... as does most of what I have continued to say, in the interests of punters, for the past 20 years.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Aug-03, 08:49 PM
You represent yourself not punters :bulb:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: gunbower on 2020-Aug-03, 10:23 PM
Imagine letting this boofhead represent you !!
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Aug-04, 10:18 PM

........ just go and buy Kosko tickets kids ....... don't worry about my commonsense

Nothing about common sense, you said 'exhorted'
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Aug-07, 08:49 PM


.......gaming the rules ...
....... it was on the cards .......... connections keeping a good one in the country .....ahead of a crack at the Kosco loot
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Aug-07, 09:05 PM


Kosco ticket promotion ........buy or forget to buy?
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Aug-19, 01:48 AM
Wow! What a trial by Nature Strip! Ready to rock and roll.

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2020Aug18&VenueCode=MTUzODM5Mg==&RaceNumber=2&MeetingCategory=Trial&VideoFileType=Last400m
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Aug-19, 08:34 AM
I could be wrong but with Covid19 and retirement of some sprinters, I just don’t think the depth will be there as previous years. The Everest will probably still have the best quality field for the year though.

Nature Strip, Gytrash and Classic Legend are qualified and you would horses like Farnan, Alligator Blood, Loving Gaby, Bivouac and Santa Anna Lane to be there hopefully too. However with travel restrictions, I do wonder what interstate horses do.

The field from last year and one of the best I have ever seen in a race.

https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/fields-results/race-fields/the-everest-field-2019/554719
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Sep-14, 11:14 AM
According to the CM story today David Vandyke stated  Alligator Blood is not going to The Everest and  is being aimed at The Golden Eagle with one run beforehand.

Rothfire will be a worthy QLD representative after his demolition job on Saturday ran sensational time considering the track rating and should be improved opined jockey Jim
 Go Jimbo :thumbsup:

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Shogun Lodge on 2020-Oct-01, 09:54 AM
Trecking or the grey, CL.
Only a head in it! :beer:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Oct-12, 05:23 PM
Weakest Everest field as a whole to date. Can’t blame the organisers as the sprinting depth has not been there this year.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Oct-12, 06:53 PM


The Everest, dare-to-be-great, racing gamble is not proven

...... even so, RVL has given RNSW every assistance in its plan to take the Spring national racing limelight.

RVL has run dead for some years now ... an astonishing dereliction of a racing franchise once of global relevance  ..... a formal inquiry by a panel of royal-commissioner 'stewards' .....is well overdue.

More generally administrators continued dedication, nationally, to inflated-field racing will see the Australian racing industry go into terminal decline ............. this business model tells most punting customers to go somewhere else ........... anywhere else.

 
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: sobig on 2020-Oct-12, 07:10 PM
Farnan out, Dollar for Dollar in.

Tony McEvoy sees his surprise TAB Everest runner Dollar For Dollar as a horse in the Redzel mould – a no-nonsense, rugged, on pace warrior – and he’s adamant he will do his connections proud on the biggest stage.


Those connections now include Aquis after an eleventh hour decision from the slot holder not to press on to the $15m feature with Golden Slipper winner Farnan.

The three-year-old passed a vet examination on Monday morning but Aquis managing director Shane McGrath said, after discussions with Gai Waterhouse and Adrian Bott, it was conceded the colt didn’t have the right preparation to be taking on an Everest.

So the Tony and Calvin McEvoy stable and eight-year-old Dollar For Dollar received the unlikely call up.

“What an incredible phone call to get,’’ McEvoy said.

“What an honour to have someone want to run your horse in the biggest race. Obviously they’d done their form and chosen him as the horse they wanted to represent them.

“We are humbled and excited and looking forward to the weekend.”
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Oct-12, 07:36 PM
They obviously got refused by the Zoutori connections
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: nemisis on 2020-Oct-13, 09:28 AM
Every year it goes on, more and more flaws appear in this "concept"
How long can it go for?
Little interest internationally, some rather uninspiring slot holders, a lack of quality for the size of the stake and C Waller doesn't even want his slot this year.
It's just a good sprint race.......nothing to justify the Murdoch / Sky Racing hype and nonsense and certainly nothing to justify a public holiday  :lol:   :lol:

A rather unreliable source told me Chris Waller was trying to do a deal with Bryce Stanaway, if Costano Mille had won The Hotham. :what:
Kiwi Bryce, way too crafty for fall for that one!   :biggrin:

All that aside......a nice 5 rated track and Gytrash crossing the line first will be a good result as far as I'm concerned.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-13, 09:48 AM
Last spot in The Everest field announced

The final field for this weekends $15m The Everest has all but been confirmed with the last slot announced this morning.

The slot that is managed by Chris Waller has been filled with Haut Brion Her to race under their badge in Saturday’s The Everest at Randwick.

Haut Brion Her shot into Everest spotlight after her first up win in the Sheraco Stakes however a disappointing finish in the Golden Pendant as the short priced favourite saw other horses come into contention including Saturday’s Roman Consul Stakes winner Wild Ruler who many thought to be the front runner.

Prior to the announcement Haut Brion Her was an $18 chance in Everest odds with Sportsbet.

https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/news/australian-racing/last-spot-in-the-everest-field-announced/634831



Great field for what is now Australia's Richest Race.

I see some of the V'Landy's haters are still carrying on all these years down the track when they were proven wrong.  Racefields still hurting?

Looking at the market for the Melbourne Cup vs The Everest it is clear what is now Australia's #1 race for the local wagering and breeding industry.

Sycophancy towards "international racing" doesn't get you anywhere except a bunch of B Grade stayers turning up. The top rated race in Australia this year was the QE2 in Sydney. Melbourne Cup is probably a half a dozen lengths off that in quality now and falling further behind each year.

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Oct-13, 12:16 PM
The Everest hit a speed bump with Covid19 and to be honest with the field this year.

This year’s field is not a $15m race but more of a $1m race. It is a good wfa sprinting race but with injuries to Rothfire and Farnan etc, the depth is not there.

As usual any criticism of the race will be seen as criticism of V’landys by his fans including Peter’s Pal.

Luck in running will play a huge part as expected showers may reveal track bias too.

It will be interesting to see wagering of the Everest compared to the MC this year. Compared to the money spent on advertising the respective races, it will be  an eye opener with Covid19 as both are solid races but one has a public holiday while the other does not .
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: ratsack on 2020-Oct-13, 08:56 PM
BEHEMOTH
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-13, 10:25 PM
Race 7 - 4:15PM THE TAB EVEREST (1200 METRES)

Of $15,000,000.1st $6,200,000, 2nd $2,400,000, 3rd $1,300,000, 4th $1,000,000, 5th $750,000, 6th $500,000, 7th $450,000, 8th $450,000, 9th $450,000, 10th $450,000, 11th $450,000, 12th $450,000, Equine Welfare Fund $75,000, Jockey Welfare Fund $75,000.
Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight(kg) Benchmark
1 141x411x24 NATURE STRIP Chris Waller James McDonald 5 58.5 121
2 324x7219x2 TREKKING James Cummings Joshua Parr 4 58.5 116
3 x2360x1x12 CLASSIQUE LEGEND Les Bridge Kerrin McEvoy 6 58.5 115
4 225x6266x6 SANTA ANA LANE Anthony & Sam Freedman Sam Clipperton 8 58.5 115
5 184x14x111 BEHEMOTH David Jolly Nash Rawiller 2 58.5 114
6 62x61365x3 BIVOUAC James Cummings Glen Boss 10 58.5 114
7 x2x13212x1 GYTRASH Gordon Richards Jason Collett 7 58.5 114
8 x37x07x112 EDUARDO Joseph Pride Ms Rachel King 9 58.5 110
9 x2308x8522 DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR Tony & Calvin McEvoy Tim Clark 1 58.5 104
10 1x77351x35 TOFANE (NZ) Michael Moroney Tommy Berry 11 56.5 114
11 x1133x49x1 LIBERTINI Anthony Cummings Regan Bayliss 12 56.5 110
12 x111221x17 HAUT BRION HER Chris Waller Brenton Avdulla 3 56.5 105
13e 714x5465x3 DEPRIVE James Cummings 0 58.5 106
14e 56x211x345 SPECIAL REWARD Kris Lees 0 58.5 105
15e 112x160x55 STANDOUT Gerald Ryan & Sterling Alexiou 0 58.5 104
16e 0x84170x85 TACTICAL ADVANTAGE Kris Lees 0 58.5 105

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-13, 10:39 PM
BEHEMOTH

I keep coming up with south Aussies!

Box 4-5-7-9 in the trifecta.

I know it is an extra 200m but Gytrash looked like he was just starting to get warmed up at the end of The Concord.

Behemoth is certainly an up and comer.

Santa Ana Lane is at the other end of his career but an outstanding Randwick 1200m record.

Dollar For Dollar as good as any other roughie and may be a spoil for Nature Strip getting any peace in front.


Best lead ups for mine have been Gytrash and Libertini who is 5:4:0:0 track and distance and I wonder if this may be Gerry's big one. You could say he is most deserving given what he puts into it and it wouldn't worry me if the Scottish flag saluted.

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Oct-14, 07:35 AM
Libertini & Gytrash for me

I’ve backed Behemoth at his last few wins but backing to 1200m against this lot may be a bit hard.

Of course I’ll still have a dabble in Santa. He loves winning at big prices
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: nemisis on 2020-Oct-15, 09:05 AM
It's ironic, isn't it, that the two high class South Aussies bringing their strong winning form have saved this $15 Million race from total embarrassment.

Sky Racing, so heavily controlled by RNSW, completely shafted South Australian Racing and gave it the status of provincial greyhounds.
What sort of morons would cut off the Adelaide Cup for a NSW country benchmark 58?.........Sky Racing Central.....that's who!

Take away Nature Strip and The Everest  would be about on a par with this year's $500,000 Goodwood Handicap. :what:

Even have to turn to the 104 rater from SA to make up the numbers....  :lol:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-15, 12:04 PM
Libertini & Gytrash for me

I’ve backed Behemoth at his last few wins but backing to 1200m against this lot may be a bit hard.

Of course I’ll still have a dabble in Santa. He loves winning at big prices

Yeah like both those.

The wild card is Nature Strip stating the obvious.

At his best he wins this. He hasn't been at his best. A bit of blind faith and you could come up with him on top.

Santa always a chance and proven at the Randwick 1200m.

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Oct-15, 04:55 PM
It's ironic, isn't it, that the two high class South Aussies bringing their strong winning form have saved this $15 Million race from total embarrassment.

Sky Racing, so heavily controlled by RNSW, completely shafted South Australian Racing and gave it the status of provincial greyhounds.
What sort of morons would cut off the Adelaide Cup for a NSW country benchmark 58?.........Sky Racing Central.....that's who!

Take away Nature Strip and The Everest  would be about on a par with this year's $500,000 Goodwood Handicap. :what:

Even have to turn to the 104 rater from SA to make up the numbers....   :lol:

Stop criticising the field or the resident Peter’s Pal will be on your back for V’landys bashing.   :lol:

Nature Strip had the best form lines prior to Spring but has not lived up to expectations too.

Trekking won the Goodwood in SA beating Gytrash while Santa started his G1 streak in SA too a couple of years back. Nature Strip raced twice on SA too for a Stakes win. Tofane’s last race as a 2yo was a stakes race in SA where he finished 2nd and in front of Gytrash. Dollar for Dollar’s early career was in SA too.

Interestingly, most of the field has not raced in Qld as much as SA considering the number of higher 2yo, 3yo and wfa sprints etc compared to SA plus the Magic Millions etc.



Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Oct-15, 08:15 PM


Leave me out

.................. any race over less than 1400m with an inflated field is a bit of a raffle ......... especially when there is very big money on the table and few credible chances .......... connections would be honor bound to cover costs for a rough ride ................ a whip protest could determine the result in this race.

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-15, 11:37 PM
Boss feels The Everest is a two-horse race

Champion jockey Glen Boss will be relying more on instinct and feel rather than race tactics and speed maps when he partners Godolphin sprinter Bivouac in the $15 million The TAB Everest at Royal Randwick on Saturday.

Boss said he doesn’t want to over-complicate the process by trying to work through various race scenarios in his mind, preferring instead to use his natural skills and uncanny ability to adapt to any circumstance.

“Everyone has an idea of how they are going to ride their horse but that can go wrong as soon as they jump,’’ Boss told The Daily Telegraph soon after riding Golden Slipper hero Farnan to a brilliant barrier trial win at Gosford on Wednesday morning.

“I prefer to be more instinctive and get the feel of the race.’’

Boss then spoke about what elite sportsmen and women call “being in the zone” – when everything that is happening at speed seems almost in slow motion to them.

“That’s the spot where you want to get into, that’s where you want to be,’’ Boss said. “When you think too much you slow yourself down.

“In many of my big victories, people ask me what I was thinking in the race and I say I didn’t think – all I did was react.”

Boss said he will be adopting these principles when he rides Godolphin sprinter Bivouac in the world’s richest turf race. Even the barrier draw which has Bivouac starting from gate 10 isn’t a concern to the Hall of Fame rider.

“I have so much faith in this ‘colt’, I know how good he is and I need to ride him accordingly – it’s not that hard,’’ Boss said.

“For these big races, I don’t do a lot of form as I understand the horses around me.

“With Bivouac, I will go out there to put him into a position where he is comfortable. When the gates open I will make up my mind what will happen.’’

Boss, a member of racing’s Hall of Fame, knows better than most how to win big races. He’s ridden 91 Group 1 winners during his illustrious career including three Melbourne Cups, two Golden Slippers, two Cox Plates, and seven Doncasters.

He’s also the defending The Everest champ, having won on crack colt Yes Yes Yes last year.

Boss said he identified two horses months ago as potential The Everest contenders this spring – Bivouac and Farnan.

“During the winter I chased Bivouac and Farnan very hard as my number one picks for The Everest,’’ he said. “They chose to go with Hughie (Bowman) on Bivouac initially but fortunately it’s worked out that I’m on the horse in The Everest.

“I know what I have underneath me — I wouldn’t swap him to be honest.’’

Boss has only had one ride on Bivouac for an outstanding win in the Group 1 Newmarket Handicap at Flemington earlier this year.

Bivouac won that race at his second run after a spell and Boss said trainer James Cummings has geared the sprinter for The Everest with one lead-up run this spring – his third to Classique Legend and Eduardo in The Shorts.

“The Newmarket was Bivouac’s peak performance and he was second-up,’’ Boss said. “No horse in Australia could have beaten him in the Newmarket and if you look at this horse’s profile, he is dynamic second-up. Horses run to patter and James has taken note of that.

“I thought his run first-up was very good and he has had a tick-over trial since where I didn’t ask him to do anything, it was a lovely trial. I would not swap this horse for anything else in the race.’’

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/the-everest-2020-glen-boss-declares-classique-legend-the-only-danger-to-bivouac-in-rich-sprint-20201014

I didn't think either Classique Legend or Bivouac. bit Boss would be a better judge than I.

CL seems to always run into one better in these sorts of races and Bivouac hasn't done much since it's Group 1 win.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Oct-16, 06:37 AM


A dare-to-be-great initiative is one thing

                                       ........ 'independent' media complicity in the hype is another.


Would this pass the pub test?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/we-want-to-match-the-cup-one-day-v-landys-bold-everest-betting-aim-20201014-p564yr.html
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Oct-16, 07:10 AM
So you contend that the media should not support the race🥴
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-16, 07:47 AM
So you contend that the media should not support the race🥴

The article Peter Mair posted is from the SMH. I'm not sure what he is going on about with "independent' media complicity"  :what:

A couple of interesting items in that article regarding digital access that I wasn't aware of.

I noticed the other day Sportsbet advertising that they are now using Sky racing instead of racing.com for their customers.

Also the removal of geoblock from the Racing NSW web site is a progressive move. Not really sure why it was there in the first place given they don't advertise or anything.

There seems to have been a little bit of a shift in the digital broadcast landscape?



'We want to match the Cup one day': V'landys bold Everest betting aim

Peter V'landys wants The Everest to eventually rival the Melbourne Cup as the biggest betting race in Australia with the $15 million sprint to be beamed into 65 countries around the world on Saturday.

On the eve of the fourth running of Australian racing's great disrupter, Racing NSW chief executive V'landys has set the "aspirational" target of eventually rivalling the race that stops the nation for wagering interest.

The Melbourne Cup, with a public holiday in Victoria, still dwarfs any other Australian race for turnover. But betting has steadily dipped on the two-mile race in recent years with the influx of overseas horses.

The country's biggest bookmaker, Tabcorp, reported turnover on last year's Melbourne Cup dropped almost six per cent to $106 million.

The Everest can still only dream of that betting realm, but the ambitious V'landys has quickly claimed No.2 spot ahead of a super day in which the slots-only race will be run an hour before the Caulfield Cup in Melbourne.

"The Everest, in a short period, has captured the imagination of the punter," said V'landys, also the chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission. "It's by far our biggest race in NSW now. You have always got to be aspirational and the Melbourne Cup is the benchmark.

"As I've said many times, the Melbourne Cup is a race of a different generation and we're trying to make The Everest for the younger generation. If that investment proves correct in the next 10 or 15 years it should be quite big.

"You have to remember 80 per cent of the 42,000 who were there last year were under the age of 35. The Melbourne Cup still appeals to this generation, but hopefully in 10, 15 or 20 years we can catch up."

The Everest crowd at Randwick will be capped at 11,000 under COVID-19 restrictions on Saturday, but it will still attract Sydney's social set and a healthy number of racegoers.

More importantly for expanding its global appeal is the fact broadcast partners SKY Racing will beam pictures of the race into more countries than in any other year since the race's inception in 2017.

It will also show the race in a real-time video on Facebook Live.


"We have done races on Facebook before, but nowhere near as many countries as Saturday," said Darren Pearce, SKY's executive general manager media and international.

"It will go into Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Turkey, France and Russia. Those countries aren’t betting on the race, but they will be able to see it.

"Basically wherever we have not got a broadcast agreement in the racing world, [they] will watch it on Facebook. It will be on Fox Sports in the States again to hit the American cable market. We are going to 65 countries with The Everest and it is getting bigger every year."

It's also believed Racing NSW will remove the geoblock on its website.

The mixture of 12 wealthy businesses, partnerships and individuals who pay a minimum $600,000 a year for a slot in the race have all been given a lifetime option on a position in The Everest.

This year's race will be the first time the first four horses past the post will earn a minimum $1 million for their slotholder and connections.

But after an increase in total prize money in each of the first four years, V'landys said it was unlikely the overall stakes would be raised beyond $15 million in 2021.

Racing NSW and the Australian Turf Club elected to maintain the purse this year despite the crippling financial effect of the global health pandemic.

"We've put every bit of profit we've made from the race back into the race," V'landys said. "I think we've reached a mark where we'll probably leave it there. It's still the richest race in the world on turf, but that's not to say a future board might not increase it."

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/we-want-to-match-the-cup-one-day-v-landys-bold-everest-betting-aim-20201014-p564yr.html
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Oct-16, 08:21 AM
Some need a lesson from PVL

“You have always got to be aspirational” :thumbsup:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: nemisis on 2020-Oct-16, 10:46 AM
"global appeal"  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:  What a lot of complete nonsense.

I have bookmarked a couple of overseas racing sites and nowhere and I mean nowhere does The Everest even rate a mention.......and why should it?
A group of good local sprinters competing for an obscene stake does not mean it's appealing on a world stage.
It does have the appeal of Nature Strip's high rating but he certainly hasn't looked  much chop getting across the finishing line lately.
Can't ever remember Manikato ever looking anything else other than the powerhouse sprinter he was.

Share a link or two........anyone????.....anywhere in the world that is promoting The Everest.
Can just see all the Turks and Russians glued to their computers........can't you?  :lol:   :lol:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-16, 01:40 PM
Some need a lesson from PVL

“You have always got to be aspirational” :thumbsup:

  emthup
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Oct-16, 01:46 PM
Some need a lesson from PVL

“You have always got to be aspirational” :thumbsup:

Some would rather boo Santa regardless of the presents he provides.  :dry:

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-16, 01:48 PM
Some would rather boo Santa regardless of the presents he provides.  :dry:

And they come out on threads like this that are supposed to be about the race.

You wanna whinge and whine? Start up your own thread.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Oct-16, 04:30 PM
Nem, does it really matter?
Every sport around the world pumps up its tyres. I really can’t understand why some of you have your knickers in a knot over It




"global appeal"  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:  What a lot of complete nonsense.

I have bookmarked a couple of overseas racing sites and nowhere and I mean nowhere does The Everest even rate a mention.......and why should it?

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Arsenal on 2020-Oct-16, 09:58 PM
On its last couple I can't have Nature Strip..... Classique Legend had a tough run and beat him convincingly and is in this up to his ears ......Libertini has very good  stats for this IMO and will be very hard to beat .... two roughies Santa Anna Lane and Haut Brion Her.... also have good stats track & distance............. I don't fancy Gytrash has only won once at this distance as has Classique Legend .......some possibility of showers not too much though according to BOM....Libertini for me.

Giddy Up :beer:[/color]
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-17, 04:52 AM
On its last couple I can't have Nature Strip..... Classique Legend had a tough run and beat him convincingly and is in this up to his ears ......Libertini has very good  stats for this IMO and will be very hard to beat .... two roughies Santa Anna Lane and Haut Brion Her.... also have good stats track & distance............. I don't fancy Gytrash has only won once at this distance as has Classique Legend .......some possibility of showers not too much though according to BOM....Libertini for me.

Giddy Up :beer:[/color]

I like Gytrash but have the same doubts as Arsenal about the distance. The only thing that makes me stay with Gytrash is that if you look at the replay of The Concorde, if that race were over 1200m Gytrash would have won by further.

Over the distance Gytrash is 7-1:2:3 (14% WSR) vs career 20-9:6:4 (45% WSR).

Balancing those stats is that Randwick is probably the most "horses for courses" track in the country and Gytrash won his only start there.

One of the things that make this a great race is if you look at the Win Strike rates of all the runners

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey WSR PSR Randwick SR
1 141x411x24 NATURE STRIP Chris Waller James McDonald 56.00% 68.00% 33.00%
2 324x7219x2 TREKKING James Cummings Joshua Parr 33.00% 63.00% 40.00%
3 x2360x1x12 CLASSIQUE LEGEND Les Bridge Kerrin McEvoy 45.00% 82.00% 43.00%
4 225x6266x6 SANTA ANA LANE Anthony & Sam Freedman Sam Clipperton 24.00% 45.00% 20.00%
5 184x14x111 BEHEMOTH David Jolly Nash Rawiller 41.00% 65.00% 0.00%
6 62x61365x3 BIVOUAC James Cummings Glen Boss 35.00% 71.00% 14.00%
7 x2x13212x1 GYTRASH Gordon Richards Jason Collett 45.00% 95.00% 100.00%
8 x37x07x112 EDUARDO Joseph Pride Ms Rachel King 33.00% 73.00% 0.00%
9 x2308x8522 DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR Tony & Calvin McEvoy Tim Clark 27.00% 57.00% NA
10 1x77351x35 TOFANE (NZ) Michael Moroney Tommy Berry 31.00% 56.00% 50.00%
11 x1133x49x1 LIBERTINI Anthony Cummings Regan Bayliss 50.00% 80.00% 57.00%
12 x111221x17 HAUT BRION HER Chris Waller Brenton Avdulla 60.00% 90.00% 100.00%

A lot of the stats point to #12 Haut Brion Her. She was quite brilliant resuming and then tested over 1400m and Waller admitted after the race that she is not a 1400m horse.

On the 7th September 2019, there was a Fillies and Mares BM 84 at Moonee Valley.

Who would have guessed that the quinella in that non-descript race (Tofane, Haut Brion Her) would be running in the 2020 Everest!!

If the following conditions are met (IMHO):

i) Gytrash runs out the 1200m - it wins
ii) If Nature Strip runs up to his very best - he wins

If those two conditions are NOT met then anything can win this.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: nemisis on 2020-Oct-17, 07:16 AM
Anyone assessing the form around Gytrash need to take notice of his form since Feb 2020.

Gytrash pulled up with the dreaded bone bruising at Caulfield in August 2019........on the concrete surface provided there.
Different training since then has produced a different horse......and what a very good horse that is!
https://www.punters.com.au/news/gytrash-back-in-work-for-autumn-campaign_186692/
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-17, 03:32 PM
Well maybe a couple of the jockeys will learn that the "ride them like we are in an 800m race at Coffs Harbour" tactics never work over the Randwick 1200m. Never have. Never will.

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Oct-17, 04:11 PM
Dazzling turn of speed when he let go  :clap2:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Oct-17, 05:06 PM
Thought Les might have had a splash of Red and Green  but alas, not. :sad:
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Oct-17, 06:26 PM
Good horse won the race. Hopefully will head down South to show his class.

Interesting to see what they do with Nature Strip now. Spell or Melbourne.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Oct-17, 08:22 PM


The Everest story unfolds


..........................  RNSW paid a high price for a good story to sell about the Everest ............. but the program, as a whole, needs to be about more than one race .............and any idea the race has 'global' significance is just wild imagination.

RNSW was no so lucky with its other mountain race -- a name no one can spell, defaults to Kosko.

.................. 'Its Me' put the Kosko in a box that should now be closed ................. it was just a matter of time before smart connections hid a good horse in the bush ............... and took the lauded 'country runners' for a ride.

............ what happened today also put he mock on the nonsense of running  'hwy-robbery' races in the big-smoke ......... these low-grade events deceive most owners and most punters and present racing administrators as money grubbing.

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: ratsack on 2020-Oct-17, 08:43 PM
Choice ? You can or you won't ?

i still think you should concentrate on poker machines
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Oct-17, 10:04 PM
................. it was just a matter of time before smart connections hid a good horse in the bush ............... and took the lauded 'country runners' for a ride.



Asleep at the wheel again Ol'Pete, did you not pay attention to some of the runners today?
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: nemisis on 2020-Oct-18, 08:45 AM
I've just spoken to my good buddy Igor in Moscow.
"Mate, did you watch The Everest"?  I asked.
"I tried "he said "bad reception"...."very hazy, Comrade"
I tried to explain that there was nothing wrong with the reception, it was just a little fire North of the city, that became a big fire and then we started arguing about climate change......all downhill from there  :biggrin:
He did say if it was on again next year he will try again to watch The Everest.
I'm going to give Igor the flick!

Not knowing anything about the slot holder but Les Bridge and Carmel Size.....some good guys of racing there.
Have to love Les Bridge quoting Percy Sykes on the size of the girth of Classique Legend........"it's all in the genes"
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Oct-18, 11:20 AM
Results

Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Starting Price
1 3 CLASSIQUE LEGEND Les Bridge Kerrin McEvoy
6 58.5kg $4.20F
2 6 BIVOUAC James Cummings Glen Boss 2.5L 10 58.5kg 9.5
3 7 GYTRASH Gordon Richards Jason Collett 3L 7 58.5kg 6
4 2 TREKKING James Cummings Joshua Parr 3.1L 4 58.5kg 16
5 12 HAUT BRION HER Chris Waller Brenton Avdulla 3.4L 3 56.5kg 41
6 4 SANTA ANA LANE Anthony & Sam Freedman Sam Clipperton 3.6L 8 58.5kg 20
7 1 NATURE STRIP Chris Waller James McDonald 3.8L 5 58.5kg 7
8 11 LIBERTINI Anthony Cummings Regan Bayliss 4.1L 12 56.5kg 6
9 10 TOFANE (NZ) Michael Moroney Tommy Berry 6.1L 11 56.5kg 19
10 5 BEHEMOTH David Jolly Nash Rawiller 6.5L 2 58.5kg 11
11 8 EDUARDO Joseph Pride Ms Rachel King 6.8L 9 58.5kg 26
12 9 DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR Tony & Calvin McEvoy Tim Clark 8.8L 1 58.5kg 101



Stewards

RACE 7: The TAB Everest 1200m:

Nature Strip – Began awkwardly. A post-race veterinary examination did not reveal any abnormalities.

Trekking – Bumped shortly after the start by Nature Strip, which shifted in.

Santa Ana Lane – Began awkwardly and shortly afterwards was hampered by Eduardo, which shifted
in.

Behemoth – Began awkwardly and lost ground. N. Rawiller stated that whilst the gelding settled back
in the field, when it did not settle directly behind Dollar for Dollar it was inclined to race keenly and as a
result could not finish off the race. A post-race veterinary examination did not reveal any abnormalities.

Bivouac – From a wide barrier was shifted behind runners in the early stages. Raced keenly in the
middle stages and near the 900m was steadied from the heels of Classique Legend.

Gytrash – When questioned regarding the gelding racing back in the field, J. Collett stated that he was
instructed to take up a prominent position if his mount began well, however, was given the option also
to ride the gelding quietly if it did not commence well. He said that Gytrash began only fairly and when
Classique Legend and Nature Strip, which were positioned to his immediate inside, began well, he
elected to come back in order to avoid being caught wide. He stated that with the fast early tempo
Gytrash was under pressure to maintain its position in the field and did not commence to make ground
until soon after straightening whereby the gelding was able to finish off the race reasonably well late in
the event.


Eduardo – When questioned regarding the tactics adopted on the gelding, rider R. King stated that she
was under no specific instructions as to where to settle in the race, but had expected to take up a
forward position. She added that she was advised also to ensure that Eduardo set a comfortable rhythm
throughout the event. She added that after commencing well she rode her mount in a neutral manner
throughout the early stages, but when Nature Strip did not improve to her inside Eduardo commenced
to race keenly and leaving the 1000m she endeavoured to restrain the gelding as she was aware it was
setting a fast early pace. She added that throughout the middle stages, Eduardo did not respond to her
efforts reduce the pace and as a consequence set too fast a tempo and was left without a finishing
effort.
A post-race veterinary examination did not reveal any abnormalities.

Dollar For Dollar – Slow to begin. A post-race veterinary examination revealed the gelding to be lame
(4/5) in the off-hind leg.
Co-trainer Mr T. McEvoy was advised that a veterinary clearance will be required
before Dollar For Dollar is permitted to race/barrier trial again

Tofane – From a wide barrier was shifted behind runners in the early stages. A post-race veterinary
examination did not reveal any abnormalities.

Libertini – From the outside barrier was shifted behind runners in the early stages. Raced wide and
without cover for the majority of the event.

Haut Brion Her – Laid in over the final 200m.

https://www.racingaustralia.horse/PostStewardsReports/17102020RAND.pdf

Sounds like Gytrash might have won if the race was 1400m! Never mind him not handling 1200m.

Pace was just so fierce. Sectionals would be interesting. They have run a fast 1.08.27 on a track on the worse side of the Good 4. Last 600m was over 35 seconds so they must have been tearing up the turf early.

Rachel King couldn't restrain Eduardo. Dollar For Dollar was 4/5 lame.
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: sobig on 2020-Oct-18, 12:37 PM
Eduardo ran first 3 200s in 12.9, 10,05 and 10.46

Meanwhile Classique Legend ran 13.44, 10.73 and 10.73 and came home the last 600 in 33.29
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Oct-19, 07:52 PM



Silk purses and sows ears


.................... any idea that the world's 'richest race on turf' would be run over 1200m at Randwick is a flight of fantasy.

A driving force, very sensibly,  behind this nonsense was an RNSW  'dare-to-be great' challenge to Racing Victoria .............. and, unbelievably, RVL said OK .............. we will lay down and die.............. and died it has.

................. what we now know is that racing, outside metropolitan Sydney and Melbourne on Saturdays, is an  irrelevance  ......... and the very viability of S&M racing on Saturdays is compromised by 'inflated fields' ............. paying known no-hopers $'000+ to just have a barrier trial.

............... the Australian racing industry is gambling irresponsibly with its future.

 

Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Oct-19, 09:10 PM
Eduardo ran first 3 200s in 12.9, 10,05 and 10.46

Meanwhile Classique Legend ran 13.44, 10.73 and 10.73 and came home the last 600 in 33.29

Amazing last 600 off such a hot pace.

I jumped off after his previous loss but he’s clearly a talent
Title: 2020 The Everest - 17th October
Post by: sobig on 2020-Oct-19, 09:56 PM
Can't think who I heard today saying that he is probably the quickest finisher ad on a par with Chatauqua, only able to sustain for longer.

Looks like the intention is to be back for the Everest next year after hopefully winning sprints in HK, Dubai, Royal Ascot and Japan.