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O.P. « 2017-Feb-06, 10:41 AM »
Race 6 - 3:10PM THE STAR APOLLO STAKES (1400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $250,000.1st $143,750, 2nd $47,500, 3rd $23,125, 4th $11,250, 5th $6,250, 6th $3,125, 7th $3,125, 8th $3,125, 9th $3,125, 10th $3,125, Equine Welfare Fund $2,500. GROUP 2
Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf 

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM
NoLast 10HorseTrainerJockeyBarrierWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
1x5x211123xHARTNELL (GB)John O'SheaJames Doyle759kg118
24110x4540xPREFERMENT (NZ)Chris WallerJason Collett859kg115
336x561019xLEEBAZ (NZ)Michael, Wayne & John HawkesTommy Berry1159kg110
4x6x341112xLIBRAN (IRE)Chris WallerBrenton Avdulla1359kg108
54249x23292DIBAYANI (IRE)David & B Hayes & T DabernigCorey Brown659kg107
67966x5340xMAGIC HURRICANE (IRE)John O'SheaChristian Reith1259kg105
722x3915x0xENDLESS DRAMA (IRE)Chris WallerTye Angland1459kg103
813x882140xSACRED MASTER (NZ)Chris WallerGlyn Schofield559kg103
920x70x0592SHIRAZKim WaughJoshua Parr959kg101
10463877031xSAVVY NATURE (NZ)Gai Waterhouse & Adrian BottTim Clark459kg90
111111x1111xWINXChris WallerHugh Bowman357kg132
1213x850202xAMBIENCEJohn O'SheaMs Kathy O'Hara257kg100
131x3611x92GLOBAL GLAMOURGai Waterhouse & Adrian BottTim Clark153.5kg106
143x6538241xLASQUETI SPIRITLee CurtisJay Ford1053.5kg100
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« 2017-Feb-06, 10:50 AM Reply #1 »
Does anyone know if Hartnell is starting? Will make this very interesting if he does.

Last campaign they met in the Spring equivalent, the Warwick Stks and she beat him by 3.5. He went on to win the G2 Chelmsford and Hill Stks then he G1 Turnbull in dominant fashion before running into Winx again in the Cox Plate running 2nd beaten a mile. Finished his campaign with an admirable 3rd in the Cup with 56 kg conceding weight to the two in front of him.

This race was started in 1974 and I've always maintained it should be given Group 1 status like the Melbourne equivalent the Orr Stks - might need a bit more prizemoney.

Winners include

Dalrello
Emancipation
Red Anchor
At Sea
Beau Zam
Triscay
Naturalism
Burst
Pharaoh
Juggler (twice)
Sunline (twice)
Lonhro
Private Steer
Grand Armee
Desert War and of course
Winx in 2016.


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« 2017-Feb-06, 11:12 AM Reply #2 »
In my not so humble opinion neither race should be group 1 contests, they are pipe openers for the campaign ahead.


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« 2017-Feb-06, 05:43 PM Reply #3 »
Too many group 1 races already.  Shouldn't have a group 1 for horses first up from a spell - sprinters to 1200m. excepted.  The Orr should not be a group 1.  Will the Everest be a group 1 from inception and will it have some runners just because someone paid for a slot ? Cheers.

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« 2017-Feb-06, 07:47 PM Reply #4 »
Will the Everest be a group 1 from inception

Of course it will.

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« 2017-Feb-06, 09:42 PM Reply #5 »
Too many group 1 races already.  Shouldn't have a group 1 for horses first up from a spell - sprinters to 1200m. excepted.  The Orr should not be a group 1.  Will the Everest be a group 1 from inception and will it have some runners just because someone paid for a slot ? Cheers.
According to Racing.com The Everest is unlikely to have any black type or group status for at least the first couple of years

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« 2017-Feb-06, 09:48 PM Reply #6 »
That would be correct, No new race can have group status until the event had been run
and the quality of the horses running is assessed.

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« 2017-Feb-07, 01:00 AM Reply #7 »
I doubt if the Everest will ever have Group 1 status as it is not open to all comers. More likely "Restricted Listed" like the MM and Inglis races.

Certainly there will be some talk on the Pattern Committee.

They will run it for a couple of years and then make an assessment. Recent races I can recall this happening to are the TJ Smith (originally the Endeavour Stks) and the Golden Rose.

I think there are a couple of races at Caulfield currently being assessed following big prizemoney boosts including the old Norman Robinson now called something like the Caulfield Classic???

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« 2017-Feb-07, 06:07 AM Reply #8 »
KR: The Everest won’t be a black-type race in its first year. What is the process for receiving black-type in Australia, and subsequently reaching Group 1 level?
PV: We’ve haven’t made an application for it at this point. We wanted to get the concept up and going and then look at group and listed [status]. To the general public it doesn’t matter if it’s a Group 1; for the purists and the trainers and the stud books, etc, it does, but for us we’re using this for marketing. The normal person wouldn’t really know what a Group 1 or a maiden is. So we decided we’ll establish it, and then we’ll look at making it a Group 1 race in the future.
You’ve got to establish the race first and foremost and you’ve got to get the ratings. I think in America they swapped an existing Grade I race [the Donn H.]. We haven’t really looked into it too much here because we were just ensuring the concept worked first and foremost.

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« 2017-Feb-07, 09:16 AM Reply #9 »
I doubt if the Everest will ever have Group 1 status as it is not open to all comers. More likely "Restricted Listed" like the MM and Inglis races.



The Everest is open to ALL comers.


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« 2017-Feb-07, 09:54 AM Reply #10 »
I doubt if the Everest will ever have Group 1 status as it is not open to all comers. More likely "Restricted Listed" like the MM and Inglis races.



Agree

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« 2017-Feb-08, 09:45 AM Reply #11 »
Race 1 - APOLLO STAKES (1400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $250,000.1st $143,750, 2nd $47,500, 3rd $23,125, 4th $11,250, 5th $6,250, 6th $3,125, 7th $3,125, 8th $3,125, 9th $3,125, 10th $3,125, Equine Welfare Fund $2,500. GROUP 2
Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf 

Field Limit: 13 + 4 EM
 Last 10HorseSexAgeTrainerHcp Rating
113x850202xAMBIENCEM4John O'Shea100
24249x23292DIBAYANI (IRE)G7David & B Hayes & T Dabernig107
35x13x1421xDIVINE PROPHETC3Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes104
422x3915x0xENDLESS DRAMA (IRE)H5Chris Waller103
51x3611x92GLOBAL GLAMOURF3Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott106
633x726910xGRAND MARSHAL (GB)G7Chris Waller109
7x5x211123xHARTNELL (GB)G6John O'Shea118
81211x1110xHE’S OUR ROKKII (NZ)G4David & B Hayes & T Dabernig108
93x6538241xLASQUETI SPIRITF3Lee Curtis100
1036x561019xLEEBAZ (NZ)G7Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes110
11x6x341112xLIBRAN (IRE)G6Chris Waller108
127966x5340xMAGIC HURRICANE (IRE)G7John O'Shea105
134110x4540xPREFERMENT (NZ)H5Chris Waller115
1413x882140xSACRED MASTER (NZ)G5Chris Waller103
15463877031xSAVVY NATURE (NZ)G6Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott90
1620x70x0592SHIRAZG7Kim Waugh101
171111x1111xWINXM5Chris Waller132

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« 2017-Feb-08, 09:46 AM Reply #12 »
Race 6 - 3:10PM THE STAR APOLLO STAKES (1400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $250,000.1st $143,750, 2nd $47,500, 3rd $23,125, 4th $11,250, 5th $6,250, 6th $3,125, 7th $3,125, 8th $3,125, 9th $3,125, 10th $3,125, Equine Welfare Fund $2,500. GROUP 2
Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf 

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM
NoLast 10HorseTrainerJockeyBarrierWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
1x5x211123xHARTNELL (GB)John O'SheaJames Doyle759kg118
24110x4540xPREFERMENT (NZ)Chris WallerJason Collett859kg115
336x561019xLEEBAZ (NZ)Michael, Wayne & John HawkesTommy Berry1159kg110
4x6x341112xLIBRAN (IRE)Chris WallerBrenton Avdulla1359kg108
54249x23292DIBAYANI (IRE)David & B Hayes & T DabernigCorey Brown659kg107
67966x5340xMAGIC HURRICANE (IRE)John O'SheaChristian Reith1259kg105
722x3915x0xENDLESS DRAMA (IRE)Chris WallerTye Angland1459kg103
813x882140xSACRED MASTER (NZ)Chris WallerGlyn Schofield559kg103
920x70x0592SHIRAZKim WaughJoshua Parr959kg101
10463877031xSAVVY NATURE (NZ)Gai Waterhouse & Adrian BottTim Clark459kg90
111111x1111xWINXChris WallerHugh Bowman357kg132
1213x850202xAMBIENCEJohn O'SheaMs Kathy O'Hara257kg100
131x3611x92GLOBAL GLAMOURGai Waterhouse & Adrian BottTim Clark153.5kg106
143x6538241xLASQUETI SPIRITLee CurtisJay Ford1053.5kg100

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« 2017-Feb-13, 12:55 AM Reply #13 »
Backed Dibayani $2.80 the place Sportsbet. Bit wary of Endless Drama but thought it was overs. Put Monday's pay on it  :p

Thought Global Glamour may have tested Winx over 1400m first up. She probably just wins by default now but entitled to be a bit vulnerable here.

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« 2017-Feb-13, 11:53 AM Reply #14 »
If you are going to have a crack at the might mare falling I'd have to go with Hartnell.

But I don't think I'll do that today.

Unlike the terminally depressed that run around social media sites like this, we will just be positive and watch a great race and try and comment positively on it afterwards if we comment at all   :lol:

Go Winx.

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« 2017-Feb-13, 01:56 PM Reply #15 »
 
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« 2017-Feb-13, 04:47 PM Reply #16 »
Surely they dodge her from now on with Hartnell. Giving away a series of group wins trying to  take her on.

Take it to Vic and canter in an Aust Cup.

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« 2017-Feb-13, 04:57 PM Reply #17 »

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« 2017-Feb-13, 06:59 PM Reply #18 »
Jeepers creepers..she looked amazing to my eye today...better than ever.
This is gonna be one hell of a prep.

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« 2017-Feb-14, 08:50 PM Reply #19 »
I think if I backed Dibayani to run top 7 it would finish 8th lol  >:(

Amazing win by Winx, continues to do things that should be hard with so much ease, as good as they come  :beer:

Hartnell should go have a beer with Hay List and talk about their women problems haha, both superstars in most other eras.
« Last Edit: 2017-Feb-14, 08:54 PM by samatt »


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