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Offline Gintara

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« 2014-Aug-23, 03:25 PM Reply #25 »
I always thought Peck would be the perfect horse for Perth, lo and behold he turned up over there and has picked up a few, easily returning the investment.

They have always had high standards with plenty of winners for those willing to try.

http://inglis.com.au/sales/info/2014+August+Thoroughbred+Sale/index/1-195

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« 2014-Aug-24, 06:41 PM Reply #26 »
Wily...Inglis Melbourne Sale on Friday...19 lots sold for $556.700.oo with Sakitto going to QLD for 64K and Proverb to Vic for 52.500K,I assume results on their site I haven't looked yet.


Wow, 11k for Torqueflite. By Street Cry out of Virage De Fortune. 4yo gelding with 2 starts for 2 wins

Missing a leg :chin:

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« 2014-Aug-24, 07:04 PM Reply #27 »

Wow, 11k for Torqueflite. By Street Cry out of Virage De Fortune. 4yo gelding with 2 starts for 2 wins

Missing a leg :chin:

Obviously.

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« 2014-Sep-08, 12:12 PM Reply #28 »
Everything OK at Darley since the change?

NSW Training Premiership

Trainer Wins 2nds 3rds 4ths 5ths Prizemoney Starters
Chris Waller 19 17 23 17 12 $1,473,890.00 148
Gai Waterhouse 14 12 10 4 7 $634,935.00 75
Joseph Pride 12 11 5 4 4 $688,020.00 58
Anthony Cummings 12 6 10 5 6 $311,475.00 60
Kris Lees 10 7 9 10 6 $301,645.00 77
David Vandyke 9 4 1 2 6 $134,140.00 35
Paul Perry 8 5 16 6 8 $255,160.00 80
Trevor Sutherland 8 1 2 6 7 $77,850.00 43
Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes 7 4 8 1 3 $427,070.00 34
John O'Shea 6 5 4 6 6 $245,750.00 48
Allan Denham 6 4 7 5 1 $145,310.00 26
Peter G Moody 6 3 3 3 1 $361,540.00 21
David Pfieffer 6 2 1 1 2 $94,375.00 23
Neil Godbolt 5 6 6 5 5 $70,480.00 38
Luke Griffith 5 5 6 14 6 $186,522.00 63
Craig Martin 5 3 2 1 2 $40,362.00 15
Matthew Dale 5 3 4 1 4 $65,940.00 23
Garry Lunn 5 3 2 3 4 $36,070.00 25
Clarry Conners 5 1 0 4 3 $83,505.00 28

NSW Jockey's Premiership

Jockey Name 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Prize Money Strike Rate Starts
James McDonald 23 10 10 9 6 $992,350.00 30.30% 76
Robert Thompson 16 10 7 6 4 $250,937.00 23.90% 71
Tye Angland 16 8 11 9 5 $708,225.00 21.30% 75
Mathew Cahill 15 11 8 8 5 $162,850.00 21.10% 71
Hugh Bowman 14 11 8 9 8 $770,580.00 21.90% 64
Jason Collett 12 7 11 11 7 $447,015.00 15.40% 78
Winona Costin (a) 11 15 10 12 6 $514,570.00 12.00% 92
Mitchell Bell 10 11 4 5 6 $178,335.00 16.40% 61
Vad Bolozhinskyi (a) 10 9 8 6 3 $125,052.00 15.60% 64
Tommy Berry 10 6 12 8 8 $581,095.00 12.20% 82
Thomas Huet 10 4 12 3 8 $188,315.00 17.50% 57
Glenn Lynch 9 13 8 9 6 $111,557.00 11.40% 79
Samantha Clenton (a) 9 10 9 7 8 $159,375.00 12.30% 73
Kody Nestor 9 9 6 5 10 $98,690.00 14.80% 61
Jay Ford 9 8 5 4 6 $150,835.00 12.50% 72
Anthony Cavallo 9 4 4 6 9 $104,525.00 14.10% 64
Richard Bensley 8 9 6 8 3 $103,830.00 12.50% 64
Blake Shinn 8 4 4 5 10 $269,505.00 15.70% 51
Ben Looker 7 1 8 3 13 $98,597.00 14.30% 56
Joshua Parr 7 5 3 4 3 $297,645.00 17.50% 40
Daniel Northey 7 3 4 6 3 $76,357.00 14.60% 48
Andrew Adkins (a) 6 9 3 0 4 $93,010.00 14.60% 41
Sam Clipperton 6 7 6 17 9 $302,140.00 8.60% 70
Brodie Loy (a) 6 2 6 3 7 $165,945.00 14.60% 41
Sophie Young (a) 6 1 4 2 4 $59,440.00 18.20% 33
Andrew Gibbons 6 1 3 1 2 $92,890.00 17.60% 34
Kerrin McEvoy 5 15 5 2 5 $533,355.00 7.70% 65
Brenton Avdulla 5 8 10 6 7 $302,035.00 7.60% 66
Tim Clark 5 8 6 6 11 $328,800.00 9.30% 54
Priscilla Schmidt (a) 5 5 3 2 2 $65,610.00 14.30% 35
Brad Clark 5 5 2 4 1 $52,155.00 17.90% 28
Grant Buckley 5 4 11 10 8 $108,730.00 6.80% 74
James Innes Jnr (a) 5 3 7 5 3 $75,630.00 8.90% 56

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« 2014-Sep-08, 08:39 PM Reply #29 »
PP - my take on it is they haven't had the numbers to the track just yet, I'll give him 12 months before judging.

That said they are totally different styles of trainers, Snowden is much more old school and goes by 'eye' (The bloke must be a genius) while O'Shea is more 'modern'. He also works them a lot harder.

Maybe the horses are adjusting to the different styles too?  :shrug:

With the jocks it seems like they are splitting the rides between McEvoy & McDonald and they are sticking with horses through out the preps, not sure who decides that though  :chin:

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« 2014-Sep-09, 07:07 PM Reply #30 »
The Darley owned Freedman trained Nozomi entered tomorrow at Bendigo should be close to winning esp if the distances improve.

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« 2014-Sep-09, 07:51 PM Reply #31 »
O'Shea is not half the horseman Snowden is.

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« 2014-Sep-09, 09:09 PM Reply #32 »
How many did Snowden train when he first took over I wonder?

Takes time.

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« 2014-Sep-23, 09:13 AM Reply #33 »
https://twitter.com/AndrewBensley/status/514187010508988416

This is a release issued by Kerrin McEvoy management over his decision to leave Godolphin on fulltime basis.




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« 2014-Sep-23, 09:36 AM Reply #34 »
The O'Shea magic at work?

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« 2014-Sep-23, 10:49 AM Reply #35 »
Its interesting. There's no question O'Shea has pushed the barrow of James McDonald and forced the hand of McEvoy it can also be said that Godolphin as far as I can tell do not have stable jockeys in Europe now either.

He maybe should have waited till the end of the spring and quite possibly would have got the main ride on Godolphins Cup runners.


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« 2014-Sep-23, 11:39 AM Reply #36 »
Smart move. He's getting out at the right time.
It's a case of shifting chairs on the Titanic.
Didn't stop it sinking though.

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« 2014-Sep-23, 04:58 PM Reply #37 »
McEvoy & Oliver are possibly 2 of the most over rated jocks of all time. Geez they slaughter most things I back :sad:

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« 2014-Sep-23, 06:56 PM Reply #38 »
McEvoy & Oliver are possibly 2 of the most over rated jocks of all time. Geez they slaughter most things I back :sad:

Even those they do not ride ?

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« 2014-Sep-23, 09:35 PM Reply #39 »
you get my drift :chin:

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« 2014-Sep-28, 10:33 PM Reply #40 »
Stable has a double in Sydney and it's pretty silent in here?

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« 2014-Oct-02, 03:50 PM Reply #41 »
At last Pierro's little sister has won a race and at a nice price.....I'm happy with my bet and quin Snow White/Diggler.

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« 2014-Oct-02, 03:57 PM Reply #42 »
At last Pierro's little sister has won a race and at a nice price.....I'm happy with my bet and quin Snow White/Diggler.

Despite being a full sister to a champion 2 and 3yo she is bred to improve with age and distance.

Doubt she will reach any great heights but her best form will probably be at a mile +

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« 2014-Oct-03, 09:20 PM Reply #43 »
After six runs Anthony Freedman's Godolphin/Darley horse Nozomi finally won a race at early three....a maiden of Godolphin trained by O'shea that could win tomorrow is Fairies...Gai has a couple of Godolphin maidens she has had for over a year that are finally trialing well so a win could be close.

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« 2015-Aug-17, 08:59 AM Reply #44 »
I've been a real fan of the breeding that has gone on at Woodlands and Darley esp Darley when Peter Snowden took the reins and his son Paul ran the Victorian Stable you could back the horses knowing you would get a top run for your money even if they didn't get home first....sadly since O'Shea took over the Victorian Stable seems to be going from worse to impossible to find a winner there yesterday Bantam ran one of the worst races I've seen from a Darley horse at Bendigo...yes I'm talking through my pocket but when you're not used to such runs from a Darley runner it sucks.

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« 2015-Aug-17, 06:27 PM Reply #45 »
I think the Darley bloodstock and matings advisors are  gurus- just that bloody smart

They breed to improve the herd not necessarily with an eye to fashion or the sale ring.Granted they have extremely deep pockets and the Sheik is a patient and wise man -not to forget they had the benefit of the input of the ( in my mind) two best trainers in Australia in the past few decades J A Hawkes and Peter Snowden. Great recipe for success .

Think of some of he great but less commercial stallions they have stood recently Dubawi and Teofilo and their outstanding stock- smart smart people.

.That said we send our mares to Coolmore and Arrowfield stallions when we aren't doing breed back .Those two studs are great marketers of their stallions and their progeny and we haven't got the Mahktoun familys riches and have to sell a few every year to stay in business
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« 2015-Aug-17, 10:28 PM Reply #46 »
I've been a real fan of the breeding that has gone on at Woodlands and Darley esp Darley when Peter Snowden took the reins

You do know that Hawkes, Snowden & O'Shea have zero input into the breeding?  :rolleyes:

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« 2015-Aug-18, 12:07 AM Reply #47 »
Yes we (almost) all know that the racing operation is quite separate from the breeding operation.
However, I am a big fan of the stud.  emthup
Every Sunday in church I mumble along with the rest "give us this day our Darley bred" 8-)

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« 2015-Aug-18, 05:55 AM Reply #48 »
Sorry Gin that's not right I've been going to the Darley Coolmore Vinery and Arrowfield stallion parades( same weekend) for over a decade Even been to dinner with Trevor Lobb in the Denman Hotel where we always stay when he was still running their bloodstock business.Rest assured Hawkes and Snowden WERE consulted
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« 2015-Aug-18, 07:29 AM Reply #49 »

Every Sunday in church I mumble along with the rest "give us this day our Darley bred" 8-)

  :lol:

Funny &%$#@       :lol:


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