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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2018-Jan-20, 04:14 AM Reply #1275 »
That's a very good 3YO BM76 at Randwick tomorrow.

The bookies have the unbeaten D'Argento favourite ahead of Intuition who is unbeaten in 3 runs this campaign and the equally impressive Whooshka.

And Gai's unbeaten horse Shumookh looked pretty impressive on debut.

And the other three runners aren't hopeless either.

The 2YO race is an interesting race. 10 of the 11 starters are unraced, and of those 10, 7 won their latest barrier trial.

I was surprised the bookies have the early favourite Ruling Symbol. It won a barrier trial by 5 lengths but it was at Newcastle. By More Than Ready and the dam Gamble Me won 4 stakes races. The coincidental thing is that #9 Gentle Persuasion is also on debut and is out of a half sister to Gamble Me, Pay Off Now.

#5 San Antonio Lad is closely related to 7 times stakes winner Mamzelle Pedrille but I thought #1 Dio Do'ro had it's measure in their trial.

The second favourite #8 Estijaab is by Snitzel out of dual Group 1 winner Response and couldn't have been more impressive in it's trial win. Well worth a look.

The only raced one Ligulate ran a half length 2nd the David Hayes horse Futooh which I rate fairly highly so surprised at the $6.00.

The rest of the meeting is very average.

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« 2018-Jan-20, 07:11 AM Reply #1276 »
Portelli was very bullish about Patron Black when I heard him during the week

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« 2018-Jan-26, 02:36 AM Reply #1277 »
Race 6 - 4:00PM VILI'S PIES AUSTRALIA DAY CUP (2400 METRES)

Of $150,000.1st $84,000, 2nd $28,200, 3rd $13,350, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,450, 6th $2,250, 7th $2,250, 8th $2,250, 9th $2,250, 10th $2,250, Equine Welfare Fund $1,500, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,500. LISTED
Quality, Minimum Weight 53kg, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 4150410736 DESTINY’S KISS Joseph Pride Corey Brown 9 60.5kg
2 x722744443 MIGHTY LUCKY Fred Cowell Chris O'Brien 7 57.5kg
3 54323x7315 MONTAUK Chris Waller Hugh Bowman 5 57.5kg
4 5322261612 VASSAL (GB) Chris Waller Tye Angland 4 56kg
5 x01784x854 DEE I CEE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Declan McDonogh 8 55.5kg
6 534x9x2180 IMPERIAL AVIATOR (GB) Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Ms Katelyn Mallyon 2 53kg
7 110x565111 CORDERO Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Brenton Avdulla 3 53kg
8 8x86976647 SHALMANESER Glen Thompson Jean Van Overmeire (a) 1 53kg
9 170x657792 WAKING MOMENT John P Thompson Blaike McDougall (a) 10 53kg
10 6266530423 ROCK ON IVY (NZ) Tim Martin James Innes Jnr (a) 6 53kg

Pretty sure that was Corey Brown's first ride on #1 Destiny's Kiss in the Gosford Cup and he rode it far too cold for that track and hoping he learnt something about the horse.The old bloke has an 18/6-4 record over the distance.

The 4 horses out of the Gosford Cup all finished within 1.5 lengths of one another.

Destiny's Kiss goes down 0.5 kg
Mighty Lucky, Dee I Cee and Montauk stay the same

#5 Dee I Cee was 3 wide the entire race which is suicide at Gosford. But having said that he has has 6 goes at the 2400m without success.

The promising #7 Cordero has won his last 3 in restricted grade and with no pace is drawn to get a nice sit. Drops 4.5 kg on his Randwick 2400m BM 82 win last start. He is by the US sire Gio Ponti who won 5 Group 1s including the Arlington Millions and sired the 2016 Breeders Cup winner Drefong. I think he shuttled here for one year in 2012. He is a half brother to the stable's handy horse Messene and is closely related to Zabeel - you have to wonder why they geld these horses  :no:

#4 Vassal comes via a different form line with a win and a 2nd in listed company past two over the distance at Randwick.

Cordero is the early $2.70 favourite.

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« 2018-Jan-26, 10:48 PM Reply #1278 »
Well that was one of the most exciting finishes in a 2400m Randwick race I've seen for a while.

Nice ride by Corey on Destiny's Kiss. Thought the weight just told in the last 200m and the upside down tactics should be considered a success IMO.

Cordero gets home but never left the fence and got a lucky run - he'll go up in the weights significantly now and will have to find some extra.

Dee I Cee is game and will win a race like this soon.

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« 2018-Feb-10, 12:41 PM Reply #1279 »
R9 #9 Fickle Folly one of the best of the day for me.

Will stick with Siege Of Quebec in the Eskimo Prince.

In the Inglis though the Brisbane horse #11Snicki Minaj[/b] had the form to win this given it won last start easily and debut wasn't beaten far by a Millions placegetter.

$8 each way.

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« 2018-Feb-17, 08:00 PM Reply #1280 »
Imagine if you had coughed up the $1.6 million to watch the wonder colt Tchaikovsky go around Today . Very handy fifth. I am thinking that it might have been better placed at Nowra tomorrow. At least the South African on board could work out a reasonable sale price for Hong Kong.

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« 2018-Feb-17, 11:15 PM Reply #1281 »
It happens and I've seen worse. At least he got to the track. How much did Vlahos "pay" for Black Caviar's brother? Remember Columbia trained by Lee Freedman? They were too embarrassed to produce him on the racetrack.

Thought the winner Santos put in a Slipper winning trial there. Has come back 10 lengths better and looks a real racehorse. Watch out any horse that wants to run past him.

Currently $11 equal third favourite for the Slipper behind Sunlight and Performer.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 11:13 AM Reply #1282 »
Imagine if you had coughed up the $1.6 million to watch the wonder colt Tchaikovsky go around Today . Very handy fifth. I am thinking that it might have been better placed at Nowra tomorrow. At least the South African on board could work out a reasonable sale price for Hong Kong.
I would be a bit forgiving on a young colts first run.

I could always refer you to the Bletchingly ...Ada Hunter colt's first run.

No Sydney form man but Santos looks all over a Slipper winner to me.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 02:36 PM Reply #1283 »
I'm eagerly awaiting the debut of Roosevelt
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« 2018-Feb-18, 08:00 PM Reply #1284 »
Nemisis for every Kingston Town foaled there are 10,000 ordinary conveyances. I will take a punt and say the breeders wouldn't hand back the  $1.6 to throw a rug over this bloke again. I am sure they are more than happy  where they have finished after this transaction.. Trainers are the modern day spruikers . We have been hearing for a few weeks what "a good mover  this bloke is ". I have seen some lovely "movers " who also happened to be slow movers. This bloke isn't an utter dud but it looks a long way to 1.6 million for me.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 08:17 PM Reply #1285 »
It happens and I've seen worse. At least he got to the track. How much did Vlahos "pay" for Black Caviar's brother? Remember Columbia trained by Lee Freedman? They were too embarrassed to produce him on the racetrack.


Pardon?


Please explain.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 10:05 PM Reply #1286 »
Pardon?


Please explain.

Which part don't ya get Pauline?

COLOMBIA (NZ)

21yo Brown Horse

D.O.B: 09-Oct-1996

by ZABEEL (NZ)  from EIGHT CARAT (GB)

Summary: 0-0:0:0    Prizemoney: $0   
1st Up: 0:0-0-0    2nd Up: 0:0-0-0   
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 0:0-0-0     Soft: 0:0-0-0     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0


Autopsy for Black Caviar half-brother Jimmy as inquiry into former owner Bill Vlahos continue

An autopsy has been conducted on the body of Black Caviar's half-brother Jimmy to determine the cause of the illness that led to the $5 million thoroughbred being put down. Meanwhile, investigations into the colt's former owner Bill Vlahos are continuing.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/autopsy-for-black-caviar-halfbrother-jimmy-as-inquiry-into-former-owner-bill-vlahos-continue-20131230-30338.html

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« 2018-Feb-19, 08:12 AM Reply #1287 »
Nemisis for every Kingston Town foaled there are 10,000 ordinary conveyances. I will take a punt and say the breeders wouldn't hand back the  $1.6 to throw a rug over this bloke again. I am sure they are more than happy  where they have finished after this transaction.. Trainers are the modern day spruikers . We have been hearing for a few weeks what "a good mover  this bloke is ". I have seen some lovely "movers " who also happened to be slow movers. This bloke isn't an utter dud but it looks a long way to 1.6 million for me.
Don't know enough about Sydney 2 yr olds to know what James Harron has in the way of slipper prospects.

Tchaikovsky only trialled on Monday and then raced on Saturday so he is being asked for a fair bit for a young horse.

With the reputation and spending of James Harron he probably feels the need to be seen on Slipper day.....so pressuring young horses in all in a days work.

Maybe in 18 months we'll know if the $1.6 mil was a good spend.


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