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« 2018-Jan-20, 04:14 AM Reply #1275 »
That's a very good 3YO BM76 at Randwick tomorrow.

The bookies have the unbeaten D'Argento favourite ahead of Intuition who is unbeaten in 3 runs this campaign and the equally impressive Whooshka.

And Gai's unbeaten horse Shumookh looked pretty impressive on debut.

And the other three runners aren't hopeless either.

The 2YO race is an interesting race. 10 of the 11 starters are unraced, and of those 10, 7 won their latest barrier trial.

I was surprised the bookies have the early favourite Ruling Symbol. It won a barrier trial by 5 lengths but it was at Newcastle. By More Than Ready and the dam Gamble Me won 4 stakes races. The coincidental thing is that #9 Gentle Persuasion is also on debut and is out of a half sister to Gamble Me, Pay Off Now.

#5 San Antonio Lad is closely related to 7 times stakes winner Mamzelle Pedrille but I thought #1 Dio Do'ro had it's measure in their trial.

The second favourite #8 Estijaab is by Snitzel out of dual Group 1 winner Response and couldn't have been more impressive in it's trial win. Well worth a look.

The only raced one Ligulate ran a half length 2nd the David Hayes horse Futooh which I rate fairly highly so surprised at the $6.00.

The rest of the meeting is very average.

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« 2018-Jan-20, 07:11 AM Reply #1276 »
Portelli was very bullish about Patron Black when I heard him during the week

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« 2018-Jan-26, 02:36 AM Reply #1277 »
Race 6 - 4:00PM VILI'S PIES AUSTRALIA DAY CUP (2400 METRES)

Of $150,000.1st $84,000, 2nd $28,200, 3rd $13,350, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,450, 6th $2,250, 7th $2,250, 8th $2,250, 9th $2,250, 10th $2,250, Equine Welfare Fund $1,500, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,500. LISTED
Quality, Minimum Weight 53kg, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 4150410736 DESTINY’S KISS Joseph Pride Corey Brown 9 60.5kg
2 x722744443 MIGHTY LUCKY Fred Cowell Chris O'Brien 7 57.5kg
3 54323x7315 MONTAUK Chris Waller Hugh Bowman 5 57.5kg
4 5322261612 VASSAL (GB) Chris Waller Tye Angland 4 56kg
5 x01784x854 DEE I CEE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Declan McDonogh 8 55.5kg
6 534x9x2180 IMPERIAL AVIATOR (GB) Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Ms Katelyn Mallyon 2 53kg
7 110x565111 CORDERO Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Brenton Avdulla 3 53kg
8 8x86976647 SHALMANESER Glen Thompson Jean Van Overmeire (a) 1 53kg
9 170x657792 WAKING MOMENT John P Thompson Blaike McDougall (a) 10 53kg
10 6266530423 ROCK ON IVY (NZ) Tim Martin James Innes Jnr (a) 6 53kg

Pretty sure that was Corey Brown's first ride on #1 Destiny's Kiss in the Gosford Cup and he rode it far too cold for that track and hoping he learnt something about the horse.The old bloke has an 18/6-4 record over the distance.

The 4 horses out of the Gosford Cup all finished within 1.5 lengths of one another.

Destiny's Kiss goes down 0.5 kg
Mighty Lucky, Dee I Cee and Montauk stay the same

#5 Dee I Cee was 3 wide the entire race which is suicide at Gosford. But having said that he has has 6 goes at the 2400m without success.

The promising #7 Cordero has won his last 3 in restricted grade and with no pace is drawn to get a nice sit. Drops 4.5 kg on his Randwick 2400m BM 82 win last start. He is by the US sire Gio Ponti who won 5 Group 1s including the Arlington Millions and sired the 2016 Breeders Cup winner Drefong. I think he shuttled here for one year in 2012. He is a half brother to the stable's handy horse Messene and is closely related to Zabeel - you have to wonder why they geld these horses  :no:

#4 Vassal comes via a different form line with a win and a 2nd in listed company past two over the distance at Randwick.

Cordero is the early $2.70 favourite.

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« 2018-Jan-26, 10:48 PM Reply #1278 »
Well that was one of the most exciting finishes in a 2400m Randwick race I've seen for a while.

Nice ride by Corey on Destiny's Kiss. Thought the weight just told in the last 200m and the upside down tactics should be considered a success IMO.

Cordero gets home but never left the fence and got a lucky run - he'll go up in the weights significantly now and will have to find some extra.

Dee I Cee is game and will win a race like this soon.

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« 2018-Feb-10, 12:41 PM Reply #1279 »
R9 #9 Fickle Folly one of the best of the day for me.

Will stick with Siege Of Quebec in the Eskimo Prince.

In the Inglis though the Brisbane horse #11Snicki Minaj[/b] had the form to win this given it won last start easily and debut wasn't beaten far by a Millions placegetter.

$8 each way.

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« 2018-Feb-17, 08:00 PM Reply #1280 »
Imagine if you had coughed up the $1.6 million to watch the wonder colt Tchaikovsky go around Today . Very handy fifth. I am thinking that it might have been better placed at Nowra tomorrow. At least the South African on board could work out a reasonable sale price for Hong Kong.

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« 2018-Feb-17, 11:15 PM Reply #1281 »
It happens and I've seen worse. At least he got to the track. How much did Vlahos "pay" for Black Caviar's brother? Remember Columbia trained by Lee Freedman? They were too embarrassed to produce him on the racetrack.

Thought the winner Santos put in a Slipper winning trial there. Has come back 10 lengths better and looks a real racehorse. Watch out any horse that wants to run past him.

Currently $11 equal third favourite for the Slipper behind Sunlight and Performer.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 11:13 AM Reply #1282 »
Imagine if you had coughed up the $1.6 million to watch the wonder colt Tchaikovsky go around Today . Very handy fifth. I am thinking that it might have been better placed at Nowra tomorrow. At least the South African on board could work out a reasonable sale price for Hong Kong.
I would be a bit forgiving on a young colts first run.

I could always refer you to the Bletchingly ...Ada Hunter colt's first run.

No Sydney form man but Santos looks all over a Slipper winner to me.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 02:36 PM Reply #1283 »
I'm eagerly awaiting the debut of Roosevelt
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« 2018-Feb-18, 08:00 PM Reply #1284 »
Nemisis for every Kingston Town foaled there are 10,000 ordinary conveyances. I will take a punt and say the breeders wouldn't hand back the  $1.6 to throw a rug over this bloke again. I am sure they are more than happy  where they have finished after this transaction.. Trainers are the modern day spruikers . We have been hearing for a few weeks what "a good mover  this bloke is ". I have seen some lovely "movers " who also happened to be slow movers. This bloke isn't an utter dud but it looks a long way to 1.6 million for me.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 08:17 PM Reply #1285 »
It happens and I've seen worse. At least he got to the track. How much did Vlahos "pay" for Black Caviar's brother? Remember Columbia trained by Lee Freedman? They were too embarrassed to produce him on the racetrack.


Pardon?


Please explain.

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« 2018-Feb-18, 10:05 PM Reply #1286 »
Pardon?


Please explain.

Which part don't ya get Pauline?

COLOMBIA (NZ)

21yo Brown Horse

D.O.B: 09-Oct-1996

by ZABEEL (NZ)  from EIGHT CARAT (GB)

Summary: 0-0:0:0    Prizemoney: $0   
1st Up: 0:0-0-0    2nd Up: 0:0-0-0   
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 0:0-0-0     Soft: 0:0-0-0     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0


Autopsy for Black Caviar half-brother Jimmy as inquiry into former owner Bill Vlahos continue

An autopsy has been conducted on the body of Black Caviar's half-brother Jimmy to determine the cause of the illness that led to the $5 million thoroughbred being put down. Meanwhile, investigations into the colt's former owner Bill Vlahos are continuing.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/autopsy-for-black-caviar-halfbrother-jimmy-as-inquiry-into-former-owner-bill-vlahos-continue-20131230-30338.html

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« 2018-Feb-19, 08:12 AM Reply #1287 »
Nemisis for every Kingston Town foaled there are 10,000 ordinary conveyances. I will take a punt and say the breeders wouldn't hand back the  $1.6 to throw a rug over this bloke again. I am sure they are more than happy  where they have finished after this transaction.. Trainers are the modern day spruikers . We have been hearing for a few weeks what "a good mover  this bloke is ". I have seen some lovely "movers " who also happened to be slow movers. This bloke isn't an utter dud but it looks a long way to 1.6 million for me.
Don't know enough about Sydney 2 yr olds to know what James Harron has in the way of slipper prospects.

Tchaikovsky only trialled on Monday and then raced on Saturday so he is being asked for a fair bit for a young horse.

With the reputation and spending of James Harron he probably feels the need to be seen on Slipper day.....so pressuring young horses in all in a days work.

Maybe in 18 months we'll know if the $1.6 mil was a good spend.

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« 2018-Feb-21, 03:58 AM Reply #1288 »
Don't know enough about Sydney 2 yr olds to know what James Harron has in the way of slipper prospects.


I'm surprised by this statement nemesis.

Given all the time you spend watching Sky Thoroughbred Central and listening to 2KY (or 2KSKY as you put it) I was going to ask your expert opinion on which is the better horse - Santos or Gongs.   :biggrin:

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« 2018-Feb-21, 08:08 AM Reply #1289 »
I'm surprised by this statement nemesis.

Given all the time you spend watching Sky Thoroughbred Central and listening to 2KY (or 2KSKY as you put it) I was going to ask your expert opinion on which is the better horse - Santos or Gongs.    :biggrin:
I borrowed 2KSKY from PM

I've never really embraced 2 yr old racing yet the Slipper is a race where I have done well, although I have never invested heavily.

Santos just looks the style of horse that wins the Golden Slipper to me.
Answers the whip like Pierro did and the 1:03.70 sec (relative to the day) as well as the margin has me convinced already.

Better leave the subject or I'll be breaking my no all in betting rule again.

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« 2018-Feb-24, 01:35 AM Reply #1290 »
The historic race tomorrow in Sydney for mine is the Hobartville Stakes. Named after a stud in the Warwick Farm area at the time, it was first run in 1925 in the spring and is currently a Group 2 race. It is the traditional first up race for Derby contenders.

The list of winners reads like a "Who's Who" of champion Australian racehorses.

First winner was the champion Amounis who was a contemporary of Phar Lap and actually beat the great horse in the 1930 St George Stakes. He went on to win the Rosehill Guineas and ran 4th to Manfred in both the VRC and AJC Derbies.

Other winners include (and nearly all of these appear on our Champions page):

Mollison
Veilmond
High Caste
Flight
Shannon
San Domenico
Hydrogen
Todman
Wiggle
Martello Towers
Wenona Girl
Baguette
Fairy Walk
Imagele
Sir Dapper
Shaftesbury Avenue
Danewin
Lonhro
Pierro
Dissident

Race 7 - 4:25PM CHANDON S CHIC EASY HOBARTVILLE STAKES (1400 METRES)

Of $400,000.1st $227,600, 2nd $75,200, 3rd $36,600, 4th $17,800, 5th $9,800, 6th $5,000, 7th $5,000, 8th $5,000, 9th $5,000, 10th $5,000,

Equine Welfare Fund $4,000, Jockey Welfare Fund $4,000.

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Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight(kg) Benchmark
1 4x155111x5 ACE HIGH David Payne Tye Angland 8 56.5 108
2 163x6410x1 TRAPEZE ARTIST Gerald Ryan Tim Clark 6 56.5 106
3 21x4320x1 KEMENTARI James Cummings Glyn Schofield 9 56.5 98
4 4137x1211 PIERATA Gregory Hickman Corey Brown 7 56.5 94
5 1242251x60 CAPITAL GAIN Paul Butterworth Jason Collett 11 56.5 90
6 112x12 SIEGE OF QUEBEC Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Brenton Avdulla 10 56.5 82
7 215x113 BRAVE SONG Peter & Paul Snowden Andrew Adkins 2 56.5 79
8 1125x4 ASSIMILATE Peter & Paul Snowden Blake Shinn 1 56.5 75
9 11x1 D’ARGENTO Chris Waller Hugh Bowman 4 56.5 75
10 1366x5 LORD CECIL Paul Messara Christian Reith 3 56.5 69
11 1776214x LUVALUVA (NZ) John Sargent Jay Ford 5 54.5

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« 2018-Feb-24, 01:50 AM Reply #1291 »
Which horse (if any) has the potential to appear as a champion winner of this race?

The obvious answer is #1 Ace High.

He won the Spring Champion - VRC Derby double in the Spring.

This feat has only been achieved by very good horses since the Sydney leg switched to the Spring in 1978

2009 - Monaco Consul
1995 - Nothin' Leica Dane (who won the Hobartville)
1989 - Stylish Century

Didn't get a lot of room until the 250m mark in the Expressway first up but when he saw daylight he motored home to be beaten only 2.3 lengths by #2 Trapeze Artist, a winner at Group 1 level himself and the obvious other "class horse".

#4 Pierata won the $2 million Magic Millions 3YO quite easily and looks an up and comer and #9 D'Argento the grey is unbeaten and last start got back in a slowly run race and I thought it was a fantastic win by a horse who looks to have a bit of character about him. Hughie to ride.

#5 Kementari ran 2nd in the Caulfield Guineas and resumed with a stunning win in the Eskimo Prince.

This race is one of the highlights on a fantastic day of racing in Sydney and Melbourne tomorrow.

Had a little on Ace High at the $41 on offer.
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« 2018-Feb-24, 12:47 PM Reply #1292 »
Great days racing. I like some roughies. Cross fingers

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« 2018-Mar-09, 10:36 AM Reply #1293 »
Patrick Erin in the 9th  tomorrow is an interesting horse.

By Gallant Guru and has probably run out of options in NZ's Sth Island.

Excellent record..... 21 starts for 10 wins and 8 placings carrying big weights and does look a versatile type.

First run for Chris Waller.

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« 2018-Mar-09, 11:03 PM Reply #1294 »
Race 6 - 3:35PM BISLEY WORKWEAR CANTERBURY STAKES (1300 METRES)

Of $500,000.1st $287,000, 2nd $94,000, 3rd $49,500, 4th $22,250, 5th $12,250, 6th $5,000, 7th $5,000, 8th $5,000, 9th $5,000, 10th $5,000, Equine Welfare Fund $5,000, Jockey Welfare Fund $5,000.

GROUP 1

Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 25x121262x HAPPY CLAPPER Patrick Webster Blake Shinn 1 59kg
2 9113x385x6 CLEARLY INNOCENT Kris Lees Hugh Bowman 3 59kg
3 5x0x360x31 ENDLESS DRAMA (IRE) Chris Waller Tye Angland 4 59kg
4 81368x008x DERRYN David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Joshua Parr 7 59kg
5 41x23475x3 FOXPLAY Chris Waller Kerrin McEvoy 9 57kg
6 541112x13x INVINCIBLE GEM Kris Lees Corey Brown 6 57kg
7 302x19x642 GLOBAL GLAMOUR Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Tim Clark 8 57kg
8 2x21510x23 SHOWTIME Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Brenton Avdulla 5 56kg
9 35x2450x41 TULIP David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Jason Collett 2 54kg

Am going to back #5 Foxplay each way at the $9 in this.

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« 2018-Mar-23, 11:20 PM Reply #1295 »
Race 8 - 4:50PM THE PFD FOOD SERVICES GALAXY (1100 METRES)

Of $700,000.1st $402,000, 2nd $132,000, 3rd $69,000, 4th $32,000, 5th $16,000, 6th $7,000, 7th $7,000, 8th $7,000, 9th $7,000, 10th $7,000, Equine Welfare Fund $7,000, Jockey Welfare Fund $7,000. GROUP 1
Handicap, Minimum Weight 50kg, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 11202x250x LE ROMAIN Kris Lees Hugh Bowman 12 58kg
2 76875113x2 JUNGLE EDGE Mick Bell Kevin Forrester 7 55.5kg
3 5x523x112x IN HER TIME Benjamin Smith Zac Purton 13 55kg
4 167x5114x1 SECRET AGENDA SCRATCHED
14 55kg
5 266x4269x5 ENGLISH Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Sam Clipperton 3 54.5kg
6 847x5400x7 TAKEDOWN Gary Moore Tommy Berry 15 54.5kg
7 394x2531x6 BALL OF MUSCLE Joseph Pride Jason Collett 1 53kg
8 x930x15x45 SUPIDO SCRATCHED
9 53kg
9 306x13x140 THRONUM SCRATCHED
8 52.5kg
10 2121x11x22 SNITTY KITTY Henry Dwyer Tim Clark 6 52kg
11 1368x008x9 DERRYN David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Andrew Adkins 2 52kg
12 x307324017 LADY ESPRIT Aaron Purcell Ms Kathy O'Hara 4 51kg
13 11x115x4 VIRIDINE James Cummings Brenton Avdulla 11 50kg
14 1220x129x PARIAH SCRATCHED
5 50kg
15e 61x70600x8 THE MISSION Paul Perry Ms Rachel King (a) 10 50kg

Old #2 Jungle Edge arrives with the wet tracks.

Amazing record when considering track conditions - one of the great all time "wet trackers".

Good
16: 0 - 4
Soft
20: 7 - 6
Heavy
13: 7 - 3

Bookies have him $3.90 equal favourite with the speedy Newcastle mare #3 In Her Time

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« 2018-Apr-07, 12:14 PM Reply #1296 »
50-1 winner Race 1

20-1 winner 2nd race.

Looks like a long day at the office.

I backed that bastard that won the 2nd race last start. Did nothing  :rant:

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« 2018-Apr-07, 12:34 PM Reply #1297 »
PP7,

Thats exaclty when you back Hayes horses.... the old Glastonbury lesson....

Fours
the 6 shoved over the fence 2x cost me a huge ff

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« 2018-Apr-07, 12:49 PM Reply #1298 »
Manicure 3 deep the whole way  :sad:

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« 2018-Apr-07, 01:32 PM Reply #1299 »
That was a forgettable call on the Country Championships by the guest caller.

He didn't even call Suncraze - think it ran 5th.


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