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Online Jeunes

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O.P. « 2018-Oct-16, 10:44 AM »
After the controversy of the Opera House and success of the 2018 version with the turnover and crowd figures, this is for all discussions of the 2019 race.

There will be no changing of the topic name regardless of personal views.

Redzel will be hopefully defending his crown and going for a 3 peat.

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« 2018-Oct-16, 01:43 PM Reply #1 »
Cant wait.
3 Everest’s to big Red would be a wonderful feat

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« 2018-Oct-16, 07:57 PM Reply #2 »

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« 2018-Oct-17, 07:02 AM Reply #3 »
And the comments are far more sensible than the article

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« 2018-Oct-18, 08:43 AM Reply #4 »


Lacking integrity and simply untrustworthy

The racing community and the wider public can have no confidence in the promotion and conduct of the mountain race day in 2018.

There was little if any credibility attaching to anything done and printed in the media before or after this rank display of a lack of integrity at all levels -- bar the horses involved.

There was no accountability for the 'sale of tickets' in a raffle to fund prize-money and all the reports of the day 'pulling a record crowd' made no mention of the distribution of free-pass access to the members stand.

What would  a Justice Hayne find about misconduct in the racing industry after he finishes with the banks?


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« 2018-Oct-18, 08:48 AM Reply #5 »

Lacking integrity and simply untrustworthy



Yes you are

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« 2018-Oct-18, 09:14 AM Reply #6 »
Let us be honest, it is a good race and the party crowd helps fill the bank too.

Regardless of how anyone feels about the race, it has attracted a new bunch of spectators and added to the racing scene.

Like 20/20, it is different to the cricket traditions but opened up a new audience etc.

The only thing that Racing NSW has to be wary about is  cannabilising it’s G1 races. That is unfortunately happening with the money spent on advertising and prize money but it is early days so things could right itself.

Redzel coming back next year would be an absolute boost and hopefully more geldings win the race than entires as it is great for racing.

Unlike the MC where now we rarely see past winners come back, being a WFA race we now have past winners come back to defend their titles. This is a great boost as other than some WFA races, we rarely ever see G1 winner able to defend mainly due to the age group, stud, handicapped too high or retirement.

Other than Winx, I doubt if any other G1 winners last season defended their title age withstanding.

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« 2018-Oct-18, 10:49 AM Reply #7 »
Peter

You poor, simple, dunde rheaded, fool.

The race was a success by any measure regardless of whether all agree with the format.

Prizemoney is half funded by slot holders.

It created enough interest in what is in the current day basically a made for TV sport to draw a record crowd which whether or not some tickets were free ( and Im taking your word that they were handed out) those people will have spent money on food, bev and punting.

Lastly it  has been acclaimed as the second biggest turnover day in racing history. I can confirm in the small part of the turnover pie that I have access to that the Everest is the most number of bets and highest turnover of any race other than a Melbourne Cup.

Interestingly my information is that Caulfield also had outstanding year on year growth.

Racing NSW would be ecstatic with that result on the second Saturday in October which is a date where they have traditionally had no presence.

 
 
 

 

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« 2018-Oct-18, 11:38 AM Reply #8 »

Lacking integrity and simply untrustworthy

all the reports of the day 'pulling a record crowd' made no mention of the distribution of free-pass access to the members stand.


Id suggest proof of this claim before you and this forum is held to account :bulb:

Will you provide your proof or are you lying again?

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« 2018-Oct-18, 11:53 AM Reply #9 »
No credence can be given to these unaudited accounts

There is nothing wrong with the race -- a good race for twelve good horses all there to win.

......and then it unravels in a gross display of dare-to-be-great bumptiousness and deceptive tactical ploys.


Let us be honest, it is a good race .............. it has attracted a new bunch of spectators  ....

It created enough interest ............... to draw a record crowd ............. whether or not some tickets were free

.............it  has been acclaimed as the second biggest turnover day in racing history.

Can we go back to -- let us be honest -- and pause for a moment  and save the applause until there is some semblance of objectivity to what is now passing into racing folklore.

............  an industry trotting out such unalloyed propaganda is not what we want from a business struggling for credibility in its treatment of its customers.


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« 2018-Oct-18, 11:57 AM Reply #10 »

Lacking integrity and simply untrustworthy

 all the reports of the day 'pulling a record crowd' made no mention of the distribution of free-pass access to the members stand.




Id suggest proof of this claim before you and this forum is held to account :bulb:

Will you provide your proof or are you lying again?

Care to answer this
« Last Edit: 2018-Oct-18, 11:59 AM by wily ole dog »

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« 2018-Oct-18, 02:36 PM Reply #11 »

You poor, simple, dunde rheaded, fool.


Lastly it  has been acclaimed as the second biggest turnover day in racing history. I can confirm in the small part of the turnover pie that I have access to that the Everest is the most number of bets and highest turnover of any race other than a Melbourne Cup.
Earlier I noted that Everest NSW Tote turnover dropped from the previous year.

So something does not add up.

The hack's sycophantic effort below is a masterpiece in BS.

The Everest
Everest meeting
Everest Day

Wonder how many readers can figure out what's what and what is being referred to at any time?

It would be quite easy for V'landys to have the true figures published so there is no room for any doubt, but that's clearly never been his style.

Right now I have better things to do than wade through that manure.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/betting-surge-sends-the-everest-through-roof-with-overall-turnover-to-smash-through-100m-barrier/news-story/84e97b4520c158405b928bf58ec23f66

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« 2018-Oct-18, 03:03 PM Reply #12 »

Right now I have better things to do than wade through that manure.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/betting-surge-sends-the-everest-through-roof-with-overall-turnover-to-smash-through-100m-barrier/news-story/84e97b4520c158405b928bf58ec23f66

Yes you do. You are too smart to worry about inconsequential things like this.
Mair on the other hand  :bulb:

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« 2019-Feb-25, 08:02 PM Reply #13 »
This adds intrigue with a slot up for sale. I would be interested to see what the price is and if any more will follow the lead.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/racing/everest-slot-up-for-sale-as-bidding-war-begins-20190225-p51039.html

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« 2019-May-25, 07:52 AM Reply #14 »
I received an email for Everest and the Golden Eagle Hospitality packages.

Anyone wanting to go, click on the link.

https://atc-website-content-2018.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2019_SpringHospoBrochure_digital.pdf

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« 2019-Aug-29, 05:04 PM Reply #15 »


No fast horses at Macedon Lodge?

Melbourne Cup winning owner Nick Williams has thumbed his nose at The Everest and described Sydney's rich spring showpiece as “second-tier’’ racing.


At least, in Melbourne, RVL has managed to combine  into one race the concepts of both the Everest and the Kosciusko races.

In Melbourne this race is known as the the All-Star-Mile and the No-Star-Mile  -- two races in one.

The Macedon men are driven by a single-race which no longer drives the nation.

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« 2019-Aug-29, 08:17 PM Reply #16 »

“I’m only interested in the top level and that’s Melbourne.”

.............. what a damning admission from the macedon-men.

The macedon-men do not like critical reactions form the mainstream media -- so, there won't be.

Because they put on 'not-talking' tantrums, the mainstream media writers will let this tripe go through to the keeper.

I accept that -- it is the best way to deal with a confusion of trump-like power and general common sense.

More worrying is the clear indication that the macedon-men have not understood just how badly Melbourne racing has been let down by RVL  -- and how RNSW stole a march to become the ruling leader of racing in Australia.

...... . if ML was a company the shares would be languishing.


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« 2019-Aug-29, 08:37 PM Reply #17 »
Instead Of ML we see Mair languishing

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« 2019-Aug-29, 09:23 PM Reply #18 »
Interesting that Alizee is running in Melbourne over 1400m first up. She usually runs well fresh so I wonder after this run will they give her a nice freshen up.

Cummings has Osborne Bulls and her. Osborne is 7.5 with the Tab while Alizee is 9.

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« 2019-Sep-14, 09:55 AM Reply #19 »
This could be controversial and a master stroke at the same time. The Everest advertising may be shone on The harbour Bridge.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/talks-to-beam-everest-onto-harbour-bridge/a297af69-bfd3-4890-8707-ed328cc55922


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