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O.P. « 2016-Apr-19, 12:43 AM »
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Status Race Purse Distance Condition Winner
Saturday 23rd April 2016, Morphettville
Group 3 Auraria Stakes $120,000 1800m 3yof swp; SWEET SEDITION
Group 3 RN Irwin Stakes $120,000 1100m WFA NOSTRADAMUS
           
Saturday 30th April 2016, Morphettville Parks
Group 3 SA Chairmans Stakes $120,000 2000m 3yo SW HOWARD BE THY NAME
Group 3 SAJC Sires Produce Stakes $120,000 1400m 2yo SW FLYING JESS
           
Saturday 7th May 2016, Morphettville
Group 1 AUSTRALASIAN OAKS $400,000 2000m 3yoF SW ABBEY MARIE
Group 1 ROBERT SANGSTER STAKES $400,000 1200m F&M WFA PRECIOUS GEM
Group 2 Euclase Stakes $250,000 1200m 3yo SW FAATINAH
Group 2 Queen Of The South Stakes $175,000 1600m F&M SW+P INTO THE MIST
Group 3 DC Mckay Stakes $120,000 1100m Quality Hcp SUPER ONE
           
Saturday 14th May 2016, Morphettville
Group 1 SAJC DERBY $500,000 2500m 3yo SW HOWARD BE THY NAME
           
Saturday 21st May 2016, Morphettville
Group 1 THE GOODWOOD $500,000 1200m Open SW+P  
Group 3 RA Lee Stakes $150,000 1600m Open SW+P  
Group 3 Proud Miss Stakes $120,000 1200m F&M SW+P  
Group 3 The Jansz National Stakes $120,000 1200m 2yo SW+P  
Group 3 SAJC Oaks $120,000 2500m 3yoF SW  
           

Morphettville Parks

morphettville parks racecourse
Circumference : 2100m
Straight : 320m

Morphettville Parks is set on the infield of the Morphettville racecourse

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« 2016-Apr-19, 12:34 PM Reply #1 »
I can almost hear the moan 'Who cares about Adelaide ?'

I like the carnival.  I would like it better if they would move the Adelaide Cup back to where it belongs  but it is where it is.

I think the SAJC's emphasis on fillies and mares races has been inspired especially during a period of deep rationalization of the local industry and competition from other states .  South Australia is the only mainland state that doesn't host a million dollar Group 1 race.  Its stakemoney is modest and yet the Australasian Oaks and the Sangster Stakes hold the carnival up.  In terms of 'bang for their buck' they could teach the big Eastern states clubs a thing or two.

Morphettville is a fine track and can take three weeks racing in succession and gets some respite by the use of the Parks track on the infield for the Sires Produce meeting.

The carnival lacks staying races due to the Adelaide Cup being moved back to March.  The emphasis is on the fillies and mares, the sprinters and the Derby.



Adelaide's hay day was in the 1960's and 70's when Graeme Heagney, Colin Hayes, John Hawkes and JB Cummings called her home.  Those days are long gone and in the mean decades that followed Adelaide lost its racetracks (and race clubs) at Cheltenham and Victoria Park. 

In 1975 all three Adelaide clubs (SAJC, Port Adelaide RC and Adelaide RC) amalgamated as the SAJC but in 1979 the Members stand at Morphettville burned down and many valuable photos and documents were lost. All racing was transferred to Victoria Park and Cheltenham.

In 1981 a new members stand was opened at Morphettville.  In 1982 the SAJC  introduced the Australasian Oaks (won by Rose of Kingston).  In 1983 the Sweetenham Stud Stakes was inaugurated (later named the Robert Sangster  Stakes) and in 1984 the SAJC Derby & Oaks were transferred from the Spring to the May meeting.  In 1985 Victoria Park became part of the Adelaide F1 street circuit.

In 2004 the SAJC Oaks lost its Group 1 status.  In 2011 it lost its Group 2 status.
In 2006 the Adelaide Cup was moved to March.  In 2008 it lost its Group 1 status.

The last meeting at Victoria Park was held in 2007.  The last meeting at Cheltenham Park was held in 2009.  As Morphettville was then the only racecourse in Adelaide the Parks circuit was developed on the infield as an alternative and opened for racing in 2009 funded by money ear marked for the redevelopment of Victoria Park.


On a personal note I think they should continue with the fillies and mares theme and introduce a well staked race over a 2000 or 2400m for females which would be a potential group 1 race given that there is no such race on the Australian calendar.  I'd see it as something akin to the Yorkshire Oaks in England and would make an attractive follow up race for late season fillies coming through the Australasian Oaks and the ATC Oaks.

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« 2016-Apr-19, 12:48 PM Reply #2 »
On a personal note I think they should continue with the fillies and mares theme and introduce a well staked race over a 2000 or 2400m for females which would be a potential group 1 race given that there is no such race on the Australian calendar.  I'd see it as something akin to the Yorkshire Oaks in England and would make an attractive follow up race for late season fillies coming through the Australasian Oaks and the ATC Oaks.

I have said for a long time the BTC and SAJC Oaks races should be opened to mares.


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« 2016-Apr-19, 01:08 PM Reply #3 »
It would make a lot of sense and potentially a legitimate Group 1 race.

What is smart about Adelaide is that they have made a niche for themselves with races like the Sangster and the Australasian Oaks.  They should milk it for all it is worth.  How about a national broodmare sale ? A Women in Racing Awards night ?  Some fashiony thingy .  Play the female card long and strong.

The fillies and mares races on the Sydney programs have got lost among a welter of over staked races crammed on to the same cards which denies them the attention they deserve.  Adelaide has the opportunity to make them the star of the show - and keep itself relevant at the same time.

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« 2016-Apr-19, 05:48 PM Reply #4 »
It's a good idea Tonto, the 2500m Oaks and Port Adelaide Cup were once decent races, good candidates to be reworked.

Probably heading to Goodwood day, think both Alpine Eagle and Prince Of Penzance resume in the RA Lee Stks.

Just to be controversial I will say I like the Cup where it is, run in sunshine in front of a decent crowd. A second tier two miler for those not quite up to spring grade and progressive stayers is not a bad thing, smart trainers program accordingly, fits in well after the Tassie carnival.

Some talk of redeveloping Victoria Park has come off the back of the successful Adelaide Oval redevelopment. A joint gallops/harness/motorsport venue two minutes from the city? Harness industry is really struggling and needs a shot in the arm, and the fewer Parks meetings the better..
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« 2016-Apr-19, 06:57 PM Reply #5 »
From Racenet.

Hellova Street on trial for 2016 Goodwood at Caulfield

Injury cost him a crack at the Tasmanian summer carnival but Hellova Street will head to Melbourne for a test run for bigger races at Saturday’s Caulfield meeting.

Hellova Street has won nine of his 17 starts in Tasmania but will have his first mainland start in the Listed Bel Esprit Stakes (1100m).

The son of Helike has not raced since his win in the Listed Newmarket Handicap (1200m) at Launceston on November 18 last year after which he sustained a foot injury.




Photo: Tasracing

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/122188/Hellova-Street-on-trial-for-2016-Goodwood-at-Caulfield

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« 2016-Apr-19, 07:50 PM Reply #6 »
Wouldn't it be great to see Victoria Park resurrected. One of the best punting tracks in the Country. Everything got its chance. It is only the brain dead administrators who close inner city tracks . It would be like trying to move the Melbourne Cricket Ground to somewhere like Waverley. or the Adelaide Oval to West Lakes, or Lang Park to Nathan or even the Sydney Cricket Ground to Home Bush. Oh hang on another group of knuckleheads have tried to do it as well                                     

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« 2016-Apr-19, 08:53 PM Reply #7 »
The Tasmanians will be well represented with Admiral also coming to Adelaide via Melbourne with a run up the straight at Flemington earmarked before the Goodwood.  He has won 14 of his 19 starts and the only race he has been unplaced in he was fifth and running on in the Australian Guineas behind Wandjina.



I am sure the decision to close Victoria Park didn't come easy and was made under pressure.  It was a novel arrangement, a racecourse on  Crown parkland in the middle of town but as far as I know the clubs (ARC and SAJC) were never trustees.  The course was of no financial aid to them.  In fact I think it was a bit of a black hole in that regard. It was a good running course but jockeys used to tell some dreadful stories about flying dog turds as it was a popular walk for men and their best friends.  I can recall a 2YO stakes race at Victoria Park when the starter was about to let them go a soccer ball came bouncing across the front of the gates from a match on the grounds on the infield. 

It would be great to see them race there again but a fair bit would need to change.




 

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« 2016-Apr-19, 09:50 PM Reply #8 »
WA Derby winner Arcadia Dream is heading over to try and emulate last years efforts of Delicacy   emthup

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« 2016-Apr-19, 10:15 PM Reply #9 »
Tontonan . I am sure most punters could not give a hoot as to whether or not some club committee was trustee of a race track . The bottom line is that it was a top racecourse parked next to the city. As for soccer balls straying onto to the track I was at Randwick the day your non de plume won a Doncaster with a couple of streakers invading the joint. I am sure that might have been slightly more offputting than an old soccer ball. As for jockeys being worried about dog turds were you actually serious ? They get hit with horse shit ,mud etc every day not to mention solid objects like horse shoes. Never heard of a jockey being concussed from being hit with dog shit.

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« 2016-Apr-19, 11:43 PM Reply #10 »
So. Moving right along...  Saturday ses the running of the Auraria Stakes.  So who the hell was Auraria ?

AURARIA

1892 brown filly
Trenton NZ - Aura (2g)
Bred by WR Wilson, 
St.Albans Stud,Geelong, Vic.
Trained by JH Hill 
Owned by D.James
Blue, canary sleeves, red cap

24 starts :  10 wins (includes 2 dead heats) 3 seconds 1 third 

Win : 41.6%  Place : 58.3%  Range : 4f to 16f   Ave Win : 9.3f
Principal Wins : 7   Pr.wins/sts : 29.2%

 

1894-95 at TWO years
11-Aug 2nd 18 Adelaide RC Fulham Park Plate 3˝f 8 -- Alveary 8 00:44.7 Good
18-Aug 4th 15 Adelaide RC Dequettevile Stakes 4f 8.9 -- Thunderer 8.9 00:50.2 Good
3-Sep Unpl 14 Morphettville Morphetville Stakes 4f 8 -- Thunderer 8.5 00:49.5 Good
8-Sep 2nd 10 Morphettville Nursery Hcp 4˝f 7.8 -- Thunderer 9.3 00:59.5 Heavy
13-Oct WON 8 Tattersalls Juvenile Hcp 4˝f 8 -- Birksgate 8 00:59.0 Good
3-Nov 5th 14 Flemington Maribyrnong Plate 5f 8.5 -- Aribi 8.1 01:02.5 Good
6-Nov =WON 17 Flemington Nursery Hcp 5f 8.1 10/1 Maie = 1 7.8 01:05.0 Good
10-Nov WON 18 Flemington Flemington Sks 4f 9.3 10/1 Maie 8.1 00:59.2 Good
4-May 2nd 8 Morphettville SA Stakes 7f 8.8 -- Freda 8.8 01:32.4 Good
4-May WON 7 Morphettville Elder Stakes 9f 6.11 -- ThePossible 9 02:00.0 Good
11-May WON 5 Morphettville Fisher Stakes 10f 7.2 -- ThePossible 9.7 02:13.4 Good
25-May WON 4 Adelaide RC Parkside Stakes 9f 6.11 -- ThePossible 9 02:00.5 Good
            
1895-96 at THREE years
5-Sep WON 4 Morphettville SAJC Derby 12f 8.5 -- Miraclum 8.1 02:43.5 Good
2-Nov 3rd 8 Flemington Victoria Derby 12f 8.5 4/1 Wallace 8.1 02:46.0 Good
5-Nov WON 36 Flemington Melbourne Cup 16f 7.4 100/3 Hova 8.1 03:29.0 Good
7-Nov WON 4 Flemington VRC Oaks 12f 8.1 2/5 f Georgie 8.1 02:46.2 Good
9-Nov =WON 4 Flemington CB Fisher Plate 16f 7.1 6/4 f Wallace = 1 7.6 03:37.0 Good
29-Feb 5th 6 Flemington Essendon Stakes 12f 7.12 5/1 Quiver 8.11 10:10.7 Good
5-Mar 4th 4 Flemington Champion Stakes 24f 7.9 9/1 Quiver = 1 8.11 05:23.2 Good
         Wallace = 1 7.12  
7-Mar 4th 4 Flemington Loch Plate 14f 8.4 12/1 Hova 9.8 03:07.7 Good
            
1896-97 at FOUR years
1-May Unpl 7 Morphettville Elder Stakes 9f 8.12 -- Lieutenant 8.1 01:57.8 --
            
1897-98 at FIVE years
30-Oct Unpl 12 Flemington Melbourne Stakes 10f 8.12 -- Battalion 8.13 02:09.7 --
4-Nov Unpl 11 Flemington Veteran Stakes 12f 9 10/1 Positano 8.1 02:36.0 --
6-Nov 4th 4 Flemington Fisher Plate 16f 9 20/1 Aurum 7.6 03:34.0 --

Auraria already had eight starts before end of November of her 2YO year and by the end of her juvenile season she was contesting and winning the best WFA races in Adelaide.  After winning the South Australian Derby on resuming she became the second filly after Briseis to win the Melbourne Cup carrying a stone more than Briseis and more weight than The Barb or Grand Flaneur had been required to carry.   Like Briseis she won the VRC Oaks later in the week and famously ran an epic dead heat with the Derby winner Wallace in the 2 mile CB Fisher Plate.  And like Briseis, after her massive Spring she subsequently lost her form and never won another race.   

She is remembered by the running of the Auraria Stakes at Morphettville on Saturday.

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« 2016-Apr-20, 12:33 AM Reply #11 »
You would reckon a 1800m fillies race a fortnight before would be a decent guide to the 2000m Australian Oaks - but it is not really. 

Since 2000 Grand Echezeaux is the only filly to complete the double while Auraria Stakes placegetters Tully Thunder, Maybe Discreet and May's Dream have improved to win the Oaks. 

2008 Auraria winner Moment In Time was second in the Oaks while Dane Beltar ran third in the Oaks after winning the Auraria.  Dane Beltar was also the dam of Caulfield Cup winner Fawkner - and the 2016 Auraria Sks contender Fife.

Australian Oaks winners in bold  placegetters in italic

AURARIA SKS
1800m 3yo fillies SWP Gr.III
2015 Fitocracy Kansas Sunflower Choix De Maia 01.52.5
2014 Girl In Flight In Masquerade May's Dream 01.50.7
2013 Global Balance Maybe Discreet Swinging Soldier 01:50.5
2012 Crucial Rahveel Crimson Lady 01:50.5
2011 Shylight Southern Speed Absolutely 01:50.6
2010 Fairy Oak El Spark Legislature 01:50.3
2009 Princess Pulse Bronislava Calm Customer 01:51.8
2008 Moment In Time Zodiac Queen Gratis 01:50.9
2007 Devil Moon Zedafest Tahnee Tango 01:48.0
2006 Purde Fanciful Bella Gothic Marian 01:50.4
2005 Overclock Vintner Moet Magic 01:51.1
2004 Dane Belltar Revolutions Niagara Falls 01:51.4
2003 Yvonne Tarcoola Diamond Pipkin 01:51.6
2002 Clothilde Tully Thunder Allez France 01:49.2
2001 Shelbourne Lass Lolita Star Sylvaner 01:50.4
2000 Grand Echezeaux Voile D Or Glenola 01:50.8

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« 2016-Apr-20, 02:16 AM Reply #12 »
I thought Bengal Cat was one of the more impressive winners at Caulfield on Saturday.

It is being aimed at the Australasian Oaks on May 7th.

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« 2016-Apr-20, 02:31 AM Reply #13 »
Scarlet Billows will run in the Sangster Stakes then head up to Qld.

David Hayes hasn't decided if he is going to SA or Qld with the impressive winner of the Packer Plate, He's Our Rokkii. He ran some impressive sectionals

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/122154/Fastest-Sectional-Splits-%E2%80%93-Randwick,-Saturday-April-16


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« 2016-Apr-20, 12:00 PM Reply #14 »

Petits Filous struggled with the Sydney way of going when running the worst race of her career for last in the 2016 Arrowfield Sprint at Randwick.

Trainer Ciaron Maher had been considering sending Petits Filous to the spelling paddock but her work since has convinced him to continue her campaign towards the 2016 Robert Sangster Stakes.

Petits Filous was a first up Caulfield winner and has won five of her seven career runs including back-to back stakes wins in the spring.

Petits Filous is likely to go straight into the 2016 Robert Sangster Stakes on May 7 without another run but Maher may give her a jumpout in the coming weeks.

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« 2016-Apr-20, 12:15 PM Reply #15 »
Supido is a likely type heading to the Goodwood, looks like he'll run Monday at Flemington after missing a start on Saturday. Had a small bet $13 Sportsbet for something to follow.

Andrew Bensley ‏@AndrewBensley  20h20 hours ago
Trainer Mick Kent says Supido will run Caulfield in Bel Esprit. Hasn't raced since @TheValley win Feb 19. Strong run Saturday then Goodwood.

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« 2016-Apr-20, 12:34 PM Reply #16 »
We really need to keep an eye on Melbourne as many carnival raiders will be having their lead up there before heading to Adelaide.

A bumper field of Australasian Oaks hopefuls, but as I said earlier the Auraria isn't always a good pointer for the Oaks given the fillies that roll in from interstate.  10 of the acceptors are from Victorian stables in addition to Goldolphin's Artesian.

The field for the WFA Irwin Stakes dropped away a bit and it is looking like Phil Stokes' Nostradamus V Darren Weir's classy mares .  Heart of a Lion is an interesting runner resuming.


Race 6 - 3:33PM   R N Irwin Stakes       1100 m
Of $120,000. GROUP 3  Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim  Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Bar WtRating
1 05415380x1 DAYTONA GREY Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Clare Lindop 7 58.5kg 93
2 6619x200x6 NOSTRADAMUS Phillip Stokes Dom Tourneur 9 58.5kg 92
3 467111314x HEART OF A LION Lloyd Kennewell Joe Bowditch 8 58.5kg 90
4 964x1355x0 KARACATIS Richard Jolly Paul Gatt 4 58.5kg 89
5 113247x960 CASHED Ryan Balfour Todd Pannell 5 58.5kg 85
6 1255x36358 SANDHILL FLASH Sam Turner Caitlin Jones (a) 6 58.5kg 84
7 120x3131x8 NORTHERN ZHAR David Jolly Jason Holder 11 58.5kg 80
8 164414110x LA PASSE Darren WeirLuke Currie; 2 56.5kg 104
9 23x1373112 TUSCAN SLING Darren Weir Harry Coffey (a) 1 56.5kg 99
10 x12100x0x1 RUNWAY STAR Phillip Stokes Craig Williams 3 56.5kg 94
11 11106x3442 I AM GYPSY Gordon Richards Ryan Hurdle (a) 10 56.5kg 83

 

 

Race 7 - 4:13PM Schweppervescence Stakes (Registered as Auraria Stakes) 1800 m
Of $120,000.Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, Fillies, Apprentices cannot claim.
This race carries a SABOIS Breeders Super Bonus for qualified horsesField Limit: 20 + 4 EM

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Rating
1 07696x6090 THE GREY FLASH Robbie Laing Shayne Cahill 21 56kg 67
2 46440x1511 C'EST BEAU LA VIE Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Jason Holder 20 55kg 78
3 3234x112 SILENT SEDITION Andrew Noblet Craig Williams 13 55kg 75
4 355212x444 BELUGA BLUE Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Clare Lindop 19 55kg 72
5 31324x2002 SAILING BY Mick Price Jake Noonan 3 54kg 76
6 64x111x747 JACQUI'S JOY (NZ) Mitchell Beer & Max Hinton Harry Coffey (a) 16 54kg 71
7 x42182x452 COMPRENDE Phillip Stokes Dom Tourneur 1 54kg 71
8 x0x5111x70 COERCED WITNESS Phillip Stokes Emily Finnegan(a) 14 54kg 69
9 57x3122 ARTESIAN John O'Shea Ms Jamie Kah 7 54kg 65
10 51x351 BEST FORTUNE Wayne Francis & Glen KentTodd Pannell 2 54kg 64
11 10 ENSUING Andrew Noblet Stephen Baster 17 54kg 64
12 72302x3215 STREET SPUN David Brideoake Luke Currie 12 54kg 63
13 3x18x39 ALITTLE LOOSE Michael Kent Joe Bowditch 5 54kg 63
14 3x13 FIFE Robert Smerdon Daniel Moor 9 54kg 63
15 1 CRY IF I WANT TO Mick Price Michael Dee (a) 15 54kg 63
16 4x316 CONCUBINE David Hayes & Tom Dabernig Matthew Neilson 8 54kg 62
17 4x15 PURE PRIDE (NZ) Murray Johnson Darren Gauci 18 54kg 62
18 415x6452 DASHEBO Peter F Blanch Ryan Hurdle (a) 6 54kg 61
19 x75137x248 WICKED PROMISE David Jolly Jake Toeroek 22 54kg 60
20 32622362 RIVERINA BELLA John & Chris LedgerMs Jessica Payne (a) 11 54kg 58
21e 15x777 OPTIMIZE Richard Jolly Paul Gatt 10 54kg 58
22e 29x666 VISUAL MOTIF John Croucher  4 54kg 55
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« 2016-Apr-20, 11:43 PM Reply #17 »
AURARIA :

The barrier draw has stretched the market .

$4.0 Silent Sedition (13)  
$4.2 Sailing By (3)
$10  Cry If You Wnt To  (15)
$10  Concubine [8]
$11  Beluga Blue (19)
$13  Comprende (1)  
$14  Artesian  (7)  
$15  C'est Beau La Vie  (20)
$17  Street Spun (12)  

Rail out 6m so I would reckon rounding them up around the home turn will be a big of an ask and horses capable of racing about the pace and closer to the fence will be advantaged.

I agree that Silent Sedition deserves favouritism.  She has been in great form this time in, put the colts away in the Bendigo Guineas and boxed on well with the weight against a smart one last time.   She's draw a tricky gate in 13 but Williams on her back and she drops 3kg for this.

Mick Price's Sailing By was out of her depth in Group 1 company in Melbourne and Sydney and apprecited the class drop  to listed grade in the Laelia Sks.  She has drawn well in 3 with Jake Noonan aboard and will be in it for a long way.

There are generous prices for good fillies drawn wide like C'est Beau La Vie (20) and Beluga Blue (19).

Two of breeding interest are Fawkner's half sister Fife (by Starcraft) and Zarita's daughter Cry If I Want To.

Fife is out of Dane Belltar who won this race back in 2004 and is having only her fourth start.  No rider as yet.  

Cry If I Want To romped home on debut at Pakenham.  This is a decent step up and she is drawn 15.  Zarita won the Australasian Oaks and the SAJC Derby back in 2008.


IRWIN

$2.0 Tuscan Sling (1)    First up since Feb.  Speedy mare. Goes best fresh. Drawn the pole.
$5.5 Runway Star (3)   Stokes/Williams. Well drawn and fast but has failed at Group level before.
$7.5 La Passe (2)         First up.  Weir mare who won Gr2 mares back to back in the Spring (Tristarc & Blazer Sks aT 1400m)
$10 Nostradamus (9)   Stokes/Tourner.  Talented 4YO entire that hasn't quite lived up to his promise. 0/4 second up.
$12 I Am Gypsy (10)    Yet to win out of 82 grade.  WFA no help but only narrowly beaten at odds in the Manihi.
$14 Daytona Grey (7)   Swooped to win the Manihi on the limit. Up 4.5kg to WFA.
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$26 Heart of a Lion [8]  First up since July.  Blinkers first time.  Recent trial winner.  Capable sprinter and not the worst.

The three mares are favoured ahead of Nostradamus. 

It seems La Passe is over the odds given her 104 rating and a 5lb break on the favourite.

Heart of a Lion  :chin:
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« 2016-Apr-21, 01:03 PM Reply #18 »
RESOURCES

Thoroughbred Racing South Australia maintains the

http://www.theracessa.com.au/


website, a clean, low fuss, easy to navigate site that contains all you need to get involved with South Australian racing.  

Particularly useful for interstaters like me is the Races Results and Replays section that links to photo finishes, video replays and sectional timing for all races while the View Fields tag windows the Racing Australia form resources.


  • Yesterday at  Murray Bridge Tony McEvoy trained Dollar For Dollar romped in to win his maiden at his second start.  He is the 3yo son of High Chaparral and the great producer Pretty Penny, dam of Sertorius, Clifton Red I Am Titanium and Fortune of War.  In  fact I dont think she has had a foal that hasn't been a winner and great dam Tontina was a full sister to Tontonan. I have been waiting for Dollar for Dollar for sometime and he looks worth the wait.

  • Daniel Moor has been booked to ride Robert Smerdon's horses at Morphettville on Saturday including Fife in the Auraria Stakes.
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« 2016-Apr-21, 04:38 PM Reply #19 »
In the Irwin I thought the Weir pair looked good things to run the quinella.

Conqueror of Solicit La Passe is first up and meets conqueror of Azkadelia Tuscan Sling. Thought LP might have the edge because Currie rides with Coffey going on TS. But the bookies have TS evens and LP at $7.  :chin:

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« 2016-Apr-22, 12:31 AM Reply #20 »
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« 2016-Apr-23, 06:55 PM Reply #21 »

RN IRWIN STAKES   1100M 
Track Condition: Good 3 Time: 1:02.94 Last 608m: 0:33.69

Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Starting Price
1 2 NOSTRADAMUS Phillip Stokes Dom Tourneur  9 58.5kg $13
2 11 I AM GYPSY Gordon Richards Ryan Hurdle (a) 0.2L 10 56.5kg $17
3 10 RUNWAY STAR Phillip Stokes Craig Williams 1.4L 3 56.5kg $4.80
4 5 CASHED Ryan Balfour Todd Pannell 1.5L 5 58.5kg $26
5 4 KARACATIS Richard Jolly Paul Gatt 1.6L 4 58.5kg $61
6 1 DAYTONA GREY Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Clare Lindop 1.6L 7 58.5kg $15
7 3 HEART OF A LION Lloyd Kennewell Joe Bowditch 2L 8 58.5kg $20
8 9 TUSCAN SLING Darren Weir Harry Coffey (a) 2.6L 1 56.5kg $2.30F
9 6 SANDHILL FLASH Sam Turner Caitlin Jones (a) 2.7L 6 58.5kg $41
10 7 NORTHERN ZHAR David Jolly Jason Holder 4L 11 58.5kg $9
11 8 LA PASSE Darren Weir Luke Currie 5.3L 2 56.5kg $12

The fancied mares were disappointing although La Passe was so slack in the market she could hardly be described as fancied.  Tuscan Sling had the run of the race and was most disappointing.  Runway Star blew the start and had that excuse finishing well for third.  The least fancied mare I am Gypsy very nearly took it before Nostradamus finished hard in the last furlong.  He has run 32.77 with splits of 10.56 , 10.78 and 11.43 - whoosh ! 


AURARIA SKS  1800m
Track Condition: Good 3 Time: 1:48.88 Last 608m: 0:34.71

Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Starting Price
1 3 SILENT SEDITION Andrew Noblet Craig Williams  11 55kg $3.10F
2 2 C'EST BEAU LA VIE Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Jason Holder 0.3L 18 55kg $17
3 7 COMPRENDE Phillip Stokes Dom Tourneur 3.4L 1 54kg $16
4 20 RIVERINA BELLA John & Chris Ledger Ms Jessica Payne (a) 3.6L 9 54kg $151
5 5 SAILING BY Mick Price Jake Noonan 4.8L 3 54kg $6
6 21e OPTIMIZE Richard Jolly Paul Gatt 6.1L 8 54kg $151
7 1 THE GREY FLASH Robbie Laing Shayne Cahill 6.6L 19 56kg $151
8 12 STREET SPUN David Brideoake Luke Currie 7.3L 10 54kg $21
9 19 WICKED PROMISE David Jolly Jake Toeroek 7.7L 20 54kg $201
10 16 CONCUBINE David Hayes & Tom Dabernig Matthew Neilson 8.3L 7 54kg $9
11 6 JACQUI'S JOY (NZ) Mitchell Beer & Max Hinton Harry Coffey (a) 8.8L 14 54kg $16
12 9 ARTESIAN John O'Shea Ms Jamie Kah 9L 6 54kg $8.50
13 15 CRY IF I WANT TO Mick Price Michael Dee (a) 9L 13 54kg $8.50
14 4 BELUGA BLUE Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Clare Lindop 9.8L 17 55kg $9
15 18 DASHEBO Peter F Blanch Ryan Hurdle (a) 10.2L 5 54kg $41
16 11 ENSUING Andrew Noblet Stephen Baster 10.4L 15 54kg $81
17 10 BEST FORTUNE Wayne Francis & Glen Kent Todd Pannell 10.7L 2 54kg $81
18 17 PURE PRIDE (NZ) Murray Johnson Darren Gauci 11.3L 16 54kg $18
19 13 ALITTLE LOOSE Michael Kent Joe Bowditch 12.3L 4 54kg $21
20 8 COERCED WITNESS Phillip Stokes Ms Emily Finnegan (a) 12.4L 12 54kg $151
  22e VISUAL MOTIF John Croucher   0  
  14 FIFE Robert Smerdon Daniel Moor  0 

Just a perfect ride from Williams, and she needed it to win and only narrowly from C'est Beau la Vie who was pushed early from the wide gate by Holder, pushed again when challenged by Cry If I Want To mid race and boxing on all the way to the line.  Big effort and she's the one I want to follow going forward.  Nothing else in the race is likely to figure in the Oaks.


REDELVA STAKES 1100M
Track Condition: Good 3 Time: 1:03.10 Last 608m: 0:34.15 

Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Starting Price Time
1 2 DON'T DOUBT MAMMA Tony McEvoy Jason Holder  4 56.5kg $4.20 1:03.10
2 1 MISS GUNPOWDER Phillip Stokes Dom Tourneur 0.2L 1 58kg $3.30F 1:03.13
3 8 SUPER CASH Andrew Noblet Luke Currie 1.3L 3 55.5kg $5 1:03.30
4 12 COCOA DOLL Phillip Stokes Craig Williams 1.4L 5 54kg $9 1:03.32
5 6 AMERICAN STAR Mark Minervini Shayne Cahill 1.5L 2 56kg $71 1:03.33
6 11 VERY CHOOSY Robert Smerdon Daniel Moor 2.3L 9 54kg $26 1:03.45
7 9 VIDDORA Lloyd Kennewell Joe Bowditch 3.8L 7 54kg $4.60 1:03.68
8 4 EVIL DREAMS Richard Jolly Caitlin Jones (a) 5.1L 8 56kg $17 1:03.88
9 3 COUNTER PULSE Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Clare Lindop 5.8L 6 56kg $18 1:04.00

Huge run from the winner belting home from the back in 33.60 in splits of 10.79 - 11.24 and 11.57.  Miss Gunpowder had 1.5kg more but had the more favourable run along the rails.  The colt Super cash came from last but he had weight relief on both fillies.  Don't Doubt was not only well back in running she was always wide but with cover.  Big Win. 


 

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« 2016-Apr-23, 09:37 PM Reply #22 »
Nice wrap up Tonto    emthup  

C'EST BEAU LA VIE was a big run, albeit a gutbuster going into the Oaks.

I though Tuscan Sling would carry that lot, half missed the kick and never looked likely.

From earlier races, I think Rationality was opened at $12 by Sportsbet on Wednesday, pays to keep your eye on the ball.

I backed Motown Lil which did the hard work to beat the fancied runners, only to be blown away by the impressive first starter Modern Wonder, number #837 way to lose..
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« 2016-Apr-24, 12:02 PM Reply #23 »

Thanks Samatt,

One more race we should account for was in Melbourne

BEL ESPRIT PLATE  1100m
Track Condition: Good 4 Time: 1:03.43 Last 600m: 0:34.32 
Official Comments: Protest 2nd against 1st :- Dismissed

Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Starting Price
1 9 SHEIDEL David Hayes & Tom Dabernig Damien Oliver  6 54kg (cd 54.5kg) $4F
2 10 GIRL GUIDE Ciaron Maher Dean Yendall 0.1L 13 54kg $21
3 1 UNDER THE LOUVRE Robert Smerdon Mark Zahra 0.3L 11 60kg $6.50
4 13 BULLPIT Danny O'Brien Glen Boss 2.05L 3 54kg $12
5 3 HELLOVA STREET Scott Brunton Ben Melham 2.35L 14 56kg $15
6 12 BEAU RADA John McArdle Chris Symons 2.45L 8 54kg $13
7 6 UNANIMOUSLY Matthew Dale Damian Lane 3.45L 10 55kg $31
8 2 THAT'S A GOOD IDEA Peter & Paul Snowden Luke Nolen 4.7L 4 59kg $7
9 7 HUSSON EAGLE Patrick Payne Ms Michelle Payne 5.45L 7 54.5kg $13
10 11 OUR NKWAZI Shawn Mathrick Dwayne Dunn 6.2L 12 54kg $101
11 14 JAVA Lee & Anthony Freedman Patrick Moloney 6.3L 9 54kg $26
12 8 MIRAGE Darren Weir Craig Newitt 6.4L 5 54.5kg $26
13 4 PITTSBURGH FLYER Lee & Shannon Hope Nicholas Hall 6.5L 1 55.5kg $9
14 5 IT IS WRITTEN Robbie Griffiths Ryan Maloney 6.6L 2 55kg $21
  17e NOZOMI Lee & Anthony Freedman James Winks  0  
  18e CASHED Ryan Balfour Reece Wheeler  0  
  15e LONROCKSTAR John Sadler James Winks  0  
  16e WE'VE GOT THIS Greg Eurell Craig Newitt  0 

Former WA filly Sheidel was nominated for the Irwin (as were Bullpit and Pittsburgh Flyer) but stayed in Melbourne to win the Bel Esprit Plate albeit narrowly from Girl Guide having her first start for Ciaron Maher and the topweight Under The Louvre who will be Adelaide bound after that effort. In fact all three will be as well as Bullpit, the Tasmanian Hellova Street and a couple of others. 

Girl Guide was coming hard at the finish but copped Oliver's whip over her nose about 50m out.  Yendall protested unsuccessfully.


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« 2016-Apr-25, 12:28 AM Reply #24 »
Keep an eye on the VRC St Leger today and next Saturday's Chairman's Stakes for the best leads on the SA Derby...

  SA DERBY Previous Start
2015
Delicacy WON Australasian Oaks
2014
Kushadasi 4th SA Chairman's Sks
2013
Escado 2nd Geelong BM72 2000m synth. 26/4
2012
Zabeelionaire WON Caulfield 3YO 2000m 21/4
2011
Shadows In The Sun 6th Randwick Packer Plate 2000m
2010
Kidnapped 3rd SA Chairman's Sks
2009
Rebel Raider WON SA Chairman's Sks
2008
Zarita WON Australasian Oaks
2007
Lazer Sharp WON VRC St Leger Sks
2006
Testafiable 3rd Randwick AJC Derby
2005
Tails Of Triomphe WON Warrnambool Class 5 2000m 4/5
2004
Hard To Get 4th SA Chairman's Stakes  2020m
2003
Mummify WON SA Chairman's Stakes 2020m
2002
Pantani 2nd VRC St Leger Sks
2001
Big Pat WON VRC St Leger Sks
2000
Blue Murder 5th SA Chairman's Sks 2020m

3 of the last 16 Derby winners have come through the VRC St Leger , 2 have come through the Australasian Oaks and 6 have come through the Chairman's Stakes



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