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Offline gratlog

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O.P. « 2011-Apr-27, 08:01 AM »
See changes being made to this site.   Hope they don't stuff it up

http://www.perthturftalk.com/news.php?id=2629

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« 2011-Apr-27, 11:48 AM Reply #1 »
Above average type won in Perth at the weekend, Solsay.
Sat up on the speed all the way and still kicked nicely at the finish.
Son of Mosayter

2 from 2 and looks more than handy.

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« 2011-Apr-27, 12:10 PM Reply #2 »
This is a piece I did on that result on my facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Damien-Wyer-Racing-Bloodstock/109650695766611?v=wall

Mosayter, by Storm Cat, in the 2006 breeding season saw a small book of mares with just 32 mares returning with 7 missed, 2 slipped, 1 foal born dead, leaving just 22 live foals on the ground. From this 17 have been named to date with the f...ollowing results.

Of the 17 named foals, 6 are unraced, 6 are maidens but all bar one have had no more than 3 starts, 2 have been placed, again off only limited starts, and 3 are winners. They are Mr Moet, Mickey Drippin, and Solsay. All have won in town and each have two wins to their credit.

So, 3 winners from 12 starters to date from this crop, gives Mosayter a winning percentage of 25%. Quite a remarkable job for a Stallion that was written off by many experts here in the West. The most recent win on Saturday of Solsoy, was the 19th win of the season for Mosayter progeny, with 11 individual winners from 32 runners.

With the general acceptance that Mosayter stock requires a modicum of patience to produce results, and with a 2yo crop that has already produced city winner Final Cut, Mosayter’s departure from WA may have been premature, as the best may still be to come.

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« 2011-Apr-27, 08:23 PM Reply #3 »
First bet I've had since Saturday.

Kim Warning Race 8.

I thought he might have just stuck his head out on the post for me.

What a shit camera angle on SKY emthdown

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« 2011-Apr-27, 08:54 PM Reply #4 »
I'm waiting for a 3yo called Queen of Quilts to appear for it's next run.

Scratched twice in the last week :chin:

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« 2011-Apr-27, 10:08 PM Reply #5 »
First bet I've had since Saturday.

Kim Warning Race 8.

I thought he might have just stuck his head out on the post for me.

What a shit camera angle on SKY emthdown

Camera would be no more than 1m past the post JWH.

Even though the margin was a nose I never had any doubts as to the result.

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« 2011-Apr-28, 09:07 AM Reply #6 »
The one I was watching was about 100 yards before the post.

Online Rodent

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« 2011-Apr-28, 10:30 AM Reply #7 »
The one I was watching was about 100 yards before the post.
The Sky footage if played in slo mo and frozen on the line shows the outside horse winning by the barest of margins despite the TV camera being slightly after the line. You can see in the foreground a cameraman taking the ground shot standing right on the line. Once you account for the angle, it was a no brainer that the outside had won.

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« 2011-Apr-28, 11:01 AM Reply #8 »
I'm not complaining about the result, (I'm over that; I've already cried me a river) but I watched the race at the rubbidy and only saw the live coverage, and I'll swear the horses were running away from the camera when they hit the post.

If that SKY camera was after the post, I'll give up drinking.

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« 2011-Apr-28, 12:08 PM Reply #9 »
The live coverage is from a camera after the post. That gives the impression of the inside horse doing a fraction better than it does in reality. If the camera were before the post, in the vision you saw, the outside horse would have appeared to have won comfortably.
 You may need to give up drinking  :lol:

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« 2011-May-06, 07:13 PM Reply #10 »
Solsay goes round in the 4th at Ascot, shooting for 3 on the bounce and remaining undefeated.

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« 2011-May-06, 07:17 PM Reply #11 »
Belmont sorry

Offline Gintara

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« 2012-Dec-26, 06:44 PM Reply #12 »
Can we get replays of Perth racing on the net?

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« 2012-Dec-26, 06:49 PM Reply #13 »
The skyracing site had them available last week, for free

Try this link and use the last results. Has a very good search option as well where you can search by horse :thumbsup:

http://www.skyracing.com.au/index.php?component=racing&task=results&Itemid=104&id=18
« Last Edit: 2012-Dec-26, 06:54 PM by wily ole dog »

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« 2012-Dec-26, 09:37 PM Reply #14 »
Thanks Wily, not sure why I hadn't found it before  :shy:

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« 2012-Dec-30, 05:39 PM Reply #15 »
Given the fact that i backed it, it was no surprise to see mighty rossa fall yesterday. The level of horsemanship over there has been disgraceful

Lucky the leader in the 7th didn't come down as well given the way he was cut in half on straightening
« Last Edit: 2012-Dec-30, 05:42 PM by wily ole dog »

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« 2013-Jan-09, 05:19 PM Reply #16 »
That'll about do me for Perth racing, yet another one goer in race 4, the winner of the maiden Quickie, in a 15 horse field from a wide barrier (13)  slotted in one out one back, leader a $6 chance got blowtorched in the run by a roughie and capitulated as expected, the chosen one Quickie swept to the lead and won like a $1.20 chance (was $7 late in betting and paid $4.10) I had 6 runners involved in my bets,  the nearest any of them came was the fav (4th) the 2nd and 3rd horses were double gutsers about $30 each  :what: The race before, the Pontiff rode the $1.50 fav and in a 7 horse field it struggled into 3rd (i had it in a couple of exactas to run 2nd as you would) I'm totally out of my depth at this caper now, horses i used to lay with consistent form like Quickie and Hollywierd (winner Doomben race 6) are mostly winning these days, it matters not if they are "unders" they simply lob. I thought that consistent horses pay a weight penalty, it doesn't seem to matter anymore  :confused1: :shrug: The bigger the field the bigger the certainty, the smaller the field, the bigger the UNcertainty  :wacko: race 5 Bunbury the same story, big field, the short fav wins, 60/1 shot 2nd and a 25/1 shot runs 3rd. It's all too hard  :shrug:

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2013-Jan-09, 06:29 PM Reply #17 »
Ive had issues for some time the way perth races are being ridden. The pace in most races is diabolical and the short straights cause havoc

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« 2013-Jan-09, 08:12 PM Reply #18 »
Ive had issues for some time the way perth races are being ridden. The pace in most races is diabolical and the short straights cause havoc

Why not use it to your advantage then?

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« 2013-Jan-09, 08:14 PM Reply #19 »
Believe me, ive been trying. Its not consistent  :lol:

As sooner as i find a lone pacemaker, 3 others decide to take it on

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« 2013-Jan-11, 08:27 PM Reply #20 »
Just checked the QLD TAB divvies for Esperence, and i noticed that the double paid MUCH bigger than the treble, and the double pool wasn't all that small, being roughly half the treble. In summary, the treble got heavily oversmashed. The three winners paid $1.90, $8.10, and $3.60 home state tote

DD   2* 5        $94.80     :o                 DD(6,7) $2362     pool

TT   1* 2* 5    $65.80     :rolleyes:            TT(5,6,7) $4628   pool

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« 2013-Jan-20, 12:42 PM Reply #21 »
Anyone see the 2nd race over there where. Raucous Lover missed the kick by 10. Barrier attendant clearly had hold of the horse as it reared in the air

« Last Edit: 2013-Jan-20, 01:26 PM by wily ole dog »

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« 2013-Jan-20, 01:23 PM Reply #22 »
I noticed it as it happened Wily as Perth so the start from the front, I thought he grabbed the reigns as the horse went up to try and keep it down, unfortunately it was simultaneous to when the gates opened.

Just one of those things sadly.

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« 2013-Jan-20, 01:23 PM Reply #23 »
Anyone see the 2nd race over there where. Raucous Lover missed the kick by 10. Battier attendant clearly had hold of the horse as it reared in the air



Stewards sort of agree with you

Correct weight was delayed approximately 5 minutes whilst Stewards viewed the head-on footage of the start in relation to RAUCOUS LAUGHTER (Jason Whiting) rearing as the gates opened. Statements were taken from the RWWA Starter Mr M Vickers, Assistant Starter Mr M Faassen, Trainer Mr S Wolfe’s representative Mr C Beros and Jockey Jason Whiting. It was established that immediately as the start was activated RAUCOUS LAUGHTER then simultaneously reared with its barrier attendant attempting to balance the gelding before then releasing it. Stewards determined that this incident was attributable to the behaviour of RAUCOUS LAUGHTER in rearing and consequently deemed that it was not denied a fair start and it was therefore determined to be a starter under the provisions of AR.134A

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« 2013-Jan-20, 01:27 PM Reply #24 »
another way to do my cash  :lol:

It turned in a pretty good effort to tack on and pass a few


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